pictured wearing their t-shirt items.[0].image.alt Kyle Rittenhouse 'I shot two white kids': Documents detail aftermath of Rittenhouse fatal shooting, arrest By: The Salt Lake Tribune Posted at 6:11 PM, Nov 21, 2020 and last updated 11:09 PM, Nov 21, 2020
SALT LAKE CITY -- A Utah-based coffee company says it will end its sponsorship of a Blaze Media podcast after the host shared a photo of Kyle Rittenhouse wearing a T-shirt with the company's logo, according to a report from The Salt Lake Tribune.
Elijah Schaffer, a reporter at Blaze Media, tweeted a since-removed photo of the 17-year-old wearing a Black Rifle Coffee Company shirt with the caption, “Kyle Rittenhouse drinks the best coffee in America.” The teenager, accused of killing two people during protests in Wisconsin in August, was released Friday after supporters raised his $2 million bail.
Schaffer’s podcast, "Slightly Offens*ve," was sponsored by Black Rifle, but a spokesperson for the coffee company told the Tribune that it is terminating that relationship.
“We do not support legal advocacy efforts,” said co-founder Evan Hafer in a statement. “We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI.”
pictured wearing their t-shirt items.[0].image.alt Kyle Rittenhouse 'I shot two white kids': Documents detail aftermath of Rittenhouse fatal shooting, arrest By: The Salt Lake Tribune Posted at 6:11 PM, Nov 21, 2020 and last updated 11:09 PM, Nov 21, 2020
SALT LAKE CITY -- A Utah-based coffee company says it will end its sponsorship of a Blaze Media podcast after the host shared a photo of Kyle Rittenhouse wearing a T-shirt with the company's logo, according to a report from The Salt Lake Tribune.
Elijah Schaffer, a reporter at Blaze Media, tweeted a since-removed photo of the 17-year-old wearing a Black Rifle Coffee Company shirt with the caption, “Kyle Rittenhouse drinks the best coffee in America.” The teenager, accused of killing two people during protests in Wisconsin in August, was released Friday after supporters raised his $2 million bail.
Schaffer’s podcast, "Slightly Offens*ve," was sponsored by Black Rifle, but a spokesperson for the coffee company told the Tribune that it is terminating that relationship.
“We do not support legal advocacy efforts,” said co-founder Evan Hafer in a statement. “We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI.”
I doubt many liberals are buying there coffee. Only place I see their coffee for sale is in gunshops and basspro/cabelas
So you think a veteran owned company should go under for making this statement?
“We do not support legal advocacy efforts,” said co-founder Evan Hafer in a statement. “We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI.”
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
What's kooky about supporting the right of self defense and opposing those who distance themselves from folks who've been forced to engage in it and had the left establishment crash down on them with the full force of the law?
When you're a big company you've got a big target on your back, the last thing these guys need is some lawyer looking to make a name for themselves breathing down their neck. I'm sure they've got their own private opinions about this but there ain't no sense in risking your business over some hot button politically feuled court case in Illinois.
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
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I’m going to email them shortly letting them know what I think of there decision. We got left wing companies promoting cross dressers, anti masculinity, a biracial couple in every other commercial and these cucks turn there back on a young patriot. Stupid business decisions on there part in my opinion given who drinks there overpriced coffee. Pressure and the all mighty dollar is all these cucks understand and there blighting the same demographic that has supported them. The whole point to buying there overpriced coffee was that they were supposedly anti PC and like minded.
When I have enough scratch I will buy a john Burns made AR15 before I ever buy an meateater edition weatherby.. far as coffee I drink Folgers it’s $13 bucks for 3 lbs.
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
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So give your money to Starbucks.
BRC has done way more for 2nd A rights but you goof balls don't have a clue.
BRC is the absolutely most pro 2nd A coffee company by more than a light mile.
The Lefties are skilled at disseminating distrust among 2A supporting companies but how willing to swallow the bullshite from those that should know better is sad.
BRC was the absolutely most pro 2nd A coffee company by more than a light mile.
FIFY.
You didn't fix Shiet.
BRC is so totally on board with the 2nd A it's crazy.
But you keep whining.
Poor baby... First, what's a "light mile"? Second, who rates coffee companies for 2A friendliness? Third, in the immortal words of another poster here...GFY!
BRC was the absolutely most pro 2nd A coffee company by more than a light mile.
FIFY.
You didn't fix Shiet.
BRC is so totally on board with the 2nd A it's crazy.
But you keep whining.
Poor baby... First, what's a "light mile"? Second, who rates coffee companies for 2A friendliness? Third, in the immortal words of another poster here...GFY!
Simple to explain.... we have been stabbed in the back over & over.... I respect Bernie Sanders more than Mitt Romney, Bernie is up front and honest about his beliefs... Mitt not so much
BRC was the absolutely most pro 2nd A coffee company by more than a light mile.
FIFY.
You didn't fix Shiet.
BRC is so totally on board with the 2nd A it's crazy.
But you keep whining.
Poor baby... First, what's a "light mile"? Second, who rates coffee companies for 2A friendliness? Third, in the immortal words of another poster here...GFY!
Buy Starbucks Bitch.
Your reading comprehension sucks, just like you do. I drink Dunkin Donuts coffee.
Simple to explain.... we have been stabbed in the back over & over.... I respect Bernie Sanders more than Mitt Romney, Bernie is up front and honest about his beliefs... Mitt not so much
Exactly. Amazon plays both sides of the fence and has many, many supporters here at the fire.
most corporations donate to both parties. There's an old saying "when a politician is running for office, he says what voters want to hear. Once he's elected, he does what the big money tells him to". Lotta truth there. Ya gotta cover all the bases.
Simple to explain.... we have been stabbed in the back over & over.... I respect Bernie Sanders more than Mitt Romney, Bernie is up front and honest about his beliefs... Mitt not so much
Makes sense. I’d rather see it coming than take it in the back. However, I try my hardest not to patronize openly anti-2A companies. I can see being mad at a company on top of boycotting others. But what I don’t understand is being mad at a friendly and giving the openly dickheaded company a pass because that’s their nature.
Kyle Rittenhouse killed two right? And they were both FELONS bent on doing more FELONIES. Rittenhouse just did us all a favor. And what is even better one had multiple sex offenses. The liberals don't have the balls to execute sex offenders. Someone did it for them and now they try to prosecute?????????????????????? RZ
Kyle Rittenhouse killed two right? And they were both FELONS bent on doing more FELONIES. Rittenhouse just did us all a favor. And what is even better one had multiple sex offenses. The liberals don't have the balls to execute sex offenders. Someone did it for them and now they try to prosecute?????????????????????? RZ
Pretty much sums it up. So the question is will BRCoffee stand on principle or try and maximize profits? In general business should do all they can to avoid politics. Unfortunately politics has invaded every corner of our lives
If I owned a company, and an extremely controversial figure got out in public, inadvertently or not, making it look like my company had some kind of sponsorship interest in him when it didn't, I'd make a statement too, regardless of how I felt about the figure. You can't have people putting words in your mouth or dictating your brand exposure. I don't see their actions as taking a position on 2A. Nobody has an idea what they might be doing in the background.
A business's primary concern is to make money first. He has to navigate politics and the company has done a schit ton to help vets and gun owners. But Im a big picture kind of guy
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
They are not pro 2A if they don't support the clear right to self defense. The Kenosha case is an absolute bellwether case.
I'm done with them. If they go under someone else can fill their place.
The quirky My Pillow guy and former Hollywood child actor went out on record and donated money to bond Rittenhouse out of jail. Meanwhile a company that has cultivated there entire image on being “edgy” non PC, pro 2A, pro freedom. Dropped a sponsorship because they either do not support Rittenhouses actions or they do but don’t have the balls to say it. BRC’s advertising was always millennial style look at me being edgy more than any real substance. BRC less guts and commitment than freaking Ricky Schroeder and the My Pillow Guy!
If I owned a company, and an extremely controversial figure got out in public, inadvertently or not, making it look like my company had some kind of sponsorship interest in him when it didn't, I'd make a statement too, regardless of how I felt about the figure. You can't have people putting words in your mouth or dictating your brand exposure. I don't see their actions as taking a position on 2A. Nobody has an idea what they might be doing in the background.
Under these circumstances BRC should have supported Kyle and helped get his bond.
The quirky My Pillow guy and former Hollywood child actor went out on record and donated money to bond Rittenhouse out of jail. Meanwhile a company that has cultivated there entire image on being “edgy” non PC, pro 2A, pro freedom. Dropped a sponsorship because they either do not support Rittenhouses actions or they do but don’t have the balls to say it. BRC’s advertising was always millennial style look at me being edgy more than any real substance. BRC less guts and commitment than freaking Ricky Schroeder and the My Pillow Guy!
Betrayal is nasty business. There's a reason treason is one of just a few capital crimes.
We have the rhino political class in this country because for too long we've settled and not held people accountable for betrayal. That's changing.
Wow. This is the insanity being peddled as normal these days.
Get off the fence Calvin.
Choose your side.
Calvin is virtue signaling with his moderate stance......
Probably live my life more conservatively than most. But that doesn’t mean I go full retard and start condemning fellow Republicans for not being on the extreme fringe. The far fight fringe will destroy the Republican Party at the rate it’s going.
If I owned a company, and an extremely controversial figure got out in public, inadvertently or not, making it look like my company had some kind of sponsorship interest in him when it didn't, I'd make a statement too, regardless of how I felt about the figure. You can't have people putting words in your mouth or dictating your brand exposure. I don't see their actions as taking a position on 2A. Nobody has an idea what they might be doing in the background.
Under these circumstances BRC should have supported Kyle and helped get his bond.
Maybe they do, and maybe they did. What happened has nothing to do with either.
So let me get this straight, because a company, run by vets, gun nut vets, doesn't want to get behind an idiot teenager they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough? The fact that the kid killed two people that were found later to be bad guys does not make what he did heroic. He left his house with a rifle to "protect" property. If you look for trouble it isn't hard to find. Putting yourself in a bad situation and then claiming self defense is BS. At the point that kid pulled the trigger he was in fear for his life. Of that I have no doubt. How he got in a situation where he would be in fear for his life is, in my opinion, the crux of the matter. If he was defending his house, I have no problem. Anyone who hears there is a potential riot brewing and inserts themselves into it pretty much bought the ticket for that ride. I don't drink coffee but their company does a lot of good things for vets. If you think they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough for you, maybe the problem is you. Group think is still group think, regardless of the political party. Patrick
So let me get this straight, because a company, run by vets, gun nut vets, doesn't want to get behind an idiot teenager they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough? The fact that the kid killed two people that were found later to be bad guys does not make what he did heroic. He left his house with a rifle to "protect" property. If you look for trouble it isn't hard to find. Putting yourself in a bad situation and then claiming self defense is BS. At the point that kid pulled the trigger he was in fear for his life. Of that I have no doubt. How he got in a situation where he would be in fear for his life is, in my opinion, the crux of the matter. If he was defending his house, I have no problem. Anyone who hears there is a potential riot brewing and inserts themselves into it pretty much bought the ticket for that ride. I don't drink coffee but their company does a lot of good things for vets. If you think they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough for you, maybe the problem is you. Group think is still group think, regardless of the political party. Patrick
You don't seem to know the facts in the Rittenhouse case. It is with out a doubt a clear cut case of self defense and it was fully documented on video from multiple angles. If this young man is found guilty then self defense is virtually meaningless when the mobs come.
So let me get this straight, because a company, run by vets, gun nut vets, doesn't want to get behind an idiot teenager they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough? The fact that the kid killed two people that were found later to be bad guys does not make what he did heroic. He left his house with a rifle to "protect" property. If you look for trouble it isn't hard to find. Putting yourself in a bad situation and then claiming self defense is BS. At the point that kid pulled the trigger he was in fear for his life. Of that I have no doubt. How he got in a situation where he would be in fear for his life is, in my opinion, the crux of the matter. If he was defending his house, I have no problem. Anyone who hears there is a potential riot brewing and inserts themselves into it pretty much bought the ticket for that ride. I don't drink coffee but their company does a lot of good things for vets. If you think they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough for you, maybe the problem is you. Group think is still group think, regardless of the political party. Patrick
So you think everybody should stay home and hide under the bed while the rioters loot and burn your town?
What facts am I missing? Claiming self defense in a situation you created doesn't fly. The ends do not justify the means. It's like getting into a pursuit with a guy who is speeding. If that guy crashes into a family and hurts/kills them, the fact that he is an axe murderer is irrelevant, all that you can use is what you actually knew at the time of the pursuit. He did not know who or what those people were when that shooting went down. He put himself in a situation where he was forced to defend himself. You can't jump out in traffic and get pissed when a car hits you. If that kid had stayed home minding his own business none of this would have happened. It sucks for him but he gets no sympathy from me. Patrick
So let me get this straight, because a company, run by vets, gun nut vets, doesn't want to get behind an idiot teenager they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough? The fact that the kid killed two people that were found later to be bad guys does not make what he did heroic. He left his house with a rifle to "protect" property. If you look for trouble it isn't hard to find. Putting yourself in a bad situation and then claiming self defense is BS. At the point that kid pulled the trigger he was in fear for his life. Of that I have no doubt. How he got in a situation where he would be in fear for his life is, in my opinion, the crux of the matter. If he was defending his house, I have no problem. Anyone who hears there is a potential riot brewing and inserts themselves into it pretty much bought the ticket for that ride. I don't drink coffee but their company does a lot of good things for vets. If you think they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough for you, maybe the problem is you. Group think is still group think, regardless of the political party. Patrick
What facts am I missing? Claiming self defense in a situation you created doesn't fly. The ends do not justify the means. It's like getting into a pursuit with a guy who is speeding. If that guy crashes into a family and hurts/kills them, the fact that he is an axe murderer is irrelevant, all that you can use is what you actually knew at the time of the pursuit. He did not know who or what those people were when that shooting went down. He put himself in a situation where he was forced to defend himself. You can't jump out in traffic and get pissed when a car hits you. If that kid had stayed home minding his own business none of this would have happened. It sucks for him but he gets no sympathy from me. Patrick
A clue, Rittenhouse didn't create the riots..... you think like a liberal Good to know you will cower in the face of adversity
Oh boy you missed one major relevant fact. Down where you talked about the “pursuit” you forgot to mention that the person figured it were gonna end in a collision and he was there to help provide first aid, and clean up the mess.
Originally Posted by dodge268
What facts am I missing? Claiming self defense in a situation you created doesn't fly. The ends do not justify the means. It's like getting into a pursuit with a guy who is speeding. If that guy crashes into a family and hurts/kills them, the fact that he is an axe murderer is irrelevant, all that you can use is what you actually knew at the time of the pursuit. He did not know who or what those people were when that shooting went down. He put himself in a situation where he was forced to defend himself. You can't jump out in traffic and get pissed when a car hits you. If that kid had stayed home minding his own business none of this would have happened. It sucks for him but he gets no sympathy from me. Patrick
Ifubar, I understand that he didn't create the riots. I also understand that he chose to jump , unasked and untrained, into the middle of an incredibly volatile situation. He made a terrible decision. One that's going to cost a ton of money and probably a good chunk of his freedom. I haven't cowered from anything, I also don't stick my finger in a wasps nest and then get mad at the wasps.
What facts am I missing? Claiming self defense in a situation you created doesn't fly. The ends do not justify the means. It's like getting into a pursuit with a guy who is speeding. If that guy crashes into a family and hurts/kills them, the fact that he is an axe murderer is irrelevant, all that you can use is what you actually knew at the time of the pursuit. He did not know who or what those people were when that shooting went down. He put himself in a situation where he was forced to defend himself. You can't jump out in traffic and get pissed when a car hits you. If that kid had stayed home minding his own business none of this would have happened. It sucks for him but he gets no sympathy from me. Patrick
So leftard how exactly did Rittenhouse create the situation? You appear to be both dumb and a coward. In America I have the right to arm myself and go anywhere I please. If someone attacks me I will kill them. I guess you would lay down and let them kick your head in. Retard.
Ifubar, I understand that he didn't create the riots. I also understand that he chose to jump , unasked and untrained, into the middle of an incredibly volatile situation. He made a terrible decision. One that's going to cost a ton of money and probably a good chunk of his freedom. I haven't cowered from anything, I also don't stick my finger in a wasps nest and then get mad at the wasps.
So unmasked and untrained? Screw you and your leftist scum mask BS and second did it look like the kid was untrained? Seemed he showed restraint, bravery and skill in a situation that he did not create. Weird how you cowards let leftist scum make your decisions for you and have no concept of reality.
What facts am I missing? Claiming self defense in a situation you created doesn't fly. The ends do not justify the means. It's like getting into a pursuit with a guy who is speeding. If that guy crashes into a family and hurts/kills them, the fact that he is an axe murderer is irrelevant, all that you can use is what you actually knew at the time of the pursuit. He did not know who or what those people were when that shooting went down. He put himself in a situation where he was forced to defend himself. You can't jump out in traffic and get pissed when a car hits you. If that kid had stayed home minding his own business none of this would have happened. It sucks for him but he gets no sympathy from me. Patrick
So, as a good citizen you go and stand with others between a rioting looting mob and a business the mob intends to illegally demolish and ruin and then you are rushed and attacked by criminals you are somehow at fault for defending yourself with reasonable force?
Ifubar, I understand that he didn't create the riots. I also understand that he chose to jump , unasked and untrained, into the middle of an incredibly volatile situation. He made a terrible decision. One that's going to cost a ton of money and probably a good chunk of his freedom. I haven't cowered from anything, I also don't stick my finger in a wasps nest and then get mad at the wasps.
So unmasked and untrained? Screw you and your leftist scum mask BS and second did it look like the kid was untrained? Seemed he showed restraint, bravery and skill in a situation that he did not create. Weird how you cowards let leftist scum make your decisions for you and have no concept of reality.
Of course he created that situation. He got his mom to drive him up there for that express purpose.
What facts am I missing? Claiming self defense in a situation you created doesn't fly. The ends do not justify the means. It's like getting into a pursuit with a guy who is speeding. If that guy crashes into a family and hurts/kills them, the fact that he is an axe murderer is irrelevant, all that you can use is what you actually knew at the time of the pursuit. He did not know who or what those people were when that shooting went down. He put himself in a situation where he was forced to defend himself. You can't jump out in traffic and get pissed when a car hits you. If that kid had stayed home minding his own business none of this would have happened. It sucks for him but he gets no sympathy from me. Patrick
The video evidence does not show Kyle was the aggressor. Watch the video compilations. Just because he was in the area does not nullify his right to self defense.
Who cares about your sympathy. Facts don't care about your feelings. The legal facts support his defense of self defense. The law is on his side. This is with out a doubt a bellwether 2A case.
So to be anywhere I have to have a good reason? You appear pretty dumb to me and ignorant. Have you looked into the circumstances of what happened at all? Kyle worked in Kenosha, was the lifeguard at the community swimming pool there. His home is less than 30 miles from where the incident happened. Would you let businesses of your friends be burned down? You probably would. Is there some reason you feel the felons that attacked the kid got more than they deserved?
Leftard? OK if you don't understand that getting in a car, leaving your house, going to where you know a riot is happening and bringing a rifle with you isn't creating a situation I don't know what you would understand. I suppose you missed the part in my post where I said had he been defending his home all this would be different. I'm not laying down for anyone. I am also not running into an alley like Rex Kramer danger seeker and yelling ni**er.
On one hand he did very well in hard self defense situations.
On the other hand he really should not have been thrust into the difficult situation.
I think we as a whole will be better off when his story is fully told but I feel bad that Kyle has to suffer through the process to get us to a good ending.
I’d be willing to guess most coffee companies don’t support Kyle. A coffee company should just sell coffee, no? That’s not enough I suppose. Gotta be a statement. Kyle bought into what BRC was selling and BRC ran away?
Whatthefuckever, second most consumed beverage in the world. Now it’s a political statement.
17 is getting into the upper end of minor child and the point is the leftist scum let Kyle and their city down by not using the police to keep things like what happened to Rittenhouse from happening. I have a very low opinion of cowards like you.
Leftard? OK if you don't understand that getting in a car, leaving your house, going to where you know a riot is happening and bringing a rifle with you isn't creating a situation I don't know what you would understand. I suppose you missed the part in my post where I said had he been defending his home all this would be different. I'm not laying down for anyone. I am also not running into an alley like Rex Kramer danger seeker and yelling ni**er.
The founding fathers would have labeled you a coward ... as would I
One more thing, if his actions were so heroic and I am such a coward, where were all of you internet commandos? If his actions were that righteous where were all the badass 3%ers that live here? DIdn't see any of you superheros on the news.....
On one hand he did very well in hard self defense situations.
On the other hand he really should not have been thrust into the difficult situation.
I think we as a whole will be better off when his story is fully told but I feel bad that Kyle has to suffer through the process to get us to a good ending.
Pro Tip: Don't send your kids to a fight.
Well then you don't think I wouldn't have defended my fathers gunshop in Dallas when the riots in the 70's happened? I was there and I would have shot any of the hoods threatening us if they had tried to burn or rob the gunshop and at the time I was 16. In reality the kids father has every right to be proud of him. Your father is still embarrassed to be related to you. As far as the full story being told WTF else do you need to know, he was attacked by felons and he defended himself.
Watch and tell me you would have done differently.
If you don’t see nuthin wrong with a minor running down to play combat medic while carrying an AR then YES, we do have a problem in the country.
What I see wrong is leftist scum like you saying we don't have the right to self defense and in this case an AR15 was the perfect weapon for that. FOAD.
If you don’t see nuthin wrong with a minor running down to play combat medic while carrying an AR then YES, we do have a problem in the country.
What I see wrong is leftist scum like you saying we don't have the right to self defense and in this case an AR15 was the perfect weapon for that. FOAD.
Your a monma’s boy you pecker sucking liberal troll
There seems to be some disconnect between standing in defense of what is yours and putting yourself in the path of a riot where you have no dog in the hunt. My house will be defended, I don't give a damn about a used car lot the next town over.
ifubar, would you have packed a lunch for your 17 year old kid and sent him off to the riots? Why haven't you gone yourself?
False premise... I have already stated the adults should have handled the situation, starting with the police.... If the thugs came to my hometown , yes I would show up with an AR15... no , I will not drive across the country to do battle Rittenhouse lived in the next small town over and had business there
There seems to be some disconnect between standing in defense of what is yours and putting yourself in the path of a riot where you have no dog in the hunt. My house will be defended, I don't give a damn about a used car lot the next town over.
You idiot in America I have the right at any time to defend the ground I stand on. Exactly what Rittenhouse did.7
If you don’t see nuthin wrong with a minor running down to play combat medic while carrying an AR then YES, we do have a problem in the country.
What I see wrong is leftist scum like you saying we don't have the right to self defense and in this case an AR15 was the perfect weapon for that. FOAD.
Your a monma’s boy you pecker sucking liberal troll
By the way leftist scum a Classic Liberal is not a leftist. You appear stupid, very stupid.
On one hand he did very well in hard self defense situations.
On the other hand he really should not have been thrust into the difficult situation.
I think we as a whole will be better off when his story is fully told but I feel bad that Kyle has to suffer through the process to get us to a good ending.
Pro Tip: Don't send your kids to a fight.
Well then you don't think I wouldn't have defended my fathers gunshop in Dallas when the riots in the 70's happened? I was there and I would have shot any of the hoods threatening us if they had tried to burn or rob the gunshop and at the time I was 16. In reality the kids father has every right to be proud of him. Your father is still embarrassed to be related to you. As far as the full story being told WTF else do you need to know, he was attacked by felons and he defended himself.
Watch and tell me you would have done differently.
Kyle was left all alone in a horrid situation with multiple attackers coming from multiple vectors.
He did much better than anyone could possibly imagine but he should never have been in that crazy situation.
Again Pro Tip: Don't let or force your kids into really bad situations with zero backup.
If you don’t see nuthin wrong with a minor running down to play combat medic while carrying an AR then YES, we do have a problem in the country.
What I see wrong is leftist scum like you saying we don't have the right to self defense and in this case an AR15 was the perfect weapon for that. FOAD.
Your a monma’s boy you pecker sucking liberal troll
By the way leftist scum a Classic Liberal is not a leftist. You appear stupid, very stupid.
You assume a great deal with little evidence. I'm trying to tell you that there is a big difference between can and should. If you don't understand that you have either had a very hard life or haven't lived up to your espoused ideals.
On one hand he did very well in hard self defense situations.
On the other hand he really should not have been thrust into the difficult situation.
I think we as a whole will be better off when his story is fully told but I feel bad that Kyle has to suffer through the process to get us to a good ending.
Pro Tip: Don't send your kids to a fight.
Well then you don't think I wouldn't have defended my fathers gunshop in Dallas when the riots in the 70's happened? I was there and I would have shot any of the hoods threatening us if they had tried to burn or rob the gunshop and at the time I was 16. In reality the kids father has every right to be proud of him. Your father is still embarrassed to be related to you. As far as the full story being told WTF else do you need to know, he was attacked by felons and he defended himself.
Watch and tell me you would have done differently.
Kyle was left all alone in a horrid situation with multiple attackers coming from multiple vectors.
He did much better than anyone could possibly imagine but he should never have been in that crazy situation.
Again Pro Tip: Don't let or force your kids into really bad situations with zero backup.
Hopefully he is found that he used reasonable force. These riots ( well organized and set up as false flags ) were a big plus for Trump and conservatives but it was co opted by a child and his enablers in Kenosha. Amazing lack of wisdom by adults here. The Dems spent the summer burning and looting down America pushing more to the Trump camp but some of the naive and unsophisticated were baited into the lefts' tactics and gave great bait for the left.
We even had many of the self described true patriots on her here defending violent criminals over the police.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Kyle Rs situation is very unique.
On one hand he did very well in hard self defense situations.
On the other hand he really should not have been thrust into the difficult situation.
I think we as a whole will be better off when his story is fully told but I feel bad that Kyle has to suffer through the process to get us to a good ending.
Pro Tip: Don't send your kids to a fight.
Well then you don't think I wouldn't have defended my fathers gunshop in Dallas when the riots in the 70's happened? I was there and I would have shot any of the hoods threatening us if they had tried to burn or rob the gunshop and at the time I was 16. In reality the kids father has every right to be proud of him. Your father is still embarrassed to be related to you. As far as the full story being told WTF else do you need to know, he was attacked by felons and he defended himself.
Watch and tell me you would have done differently.
Kyle was left all alone in a horrid situation with multiple attackers coming from multiple vectors.
He did much better than anyone could possibly imagine but he should never have been in that crazy situation.
Again Pro Tip: Don't let or force your kids into really bad situations with zero backup.
Mat Best and his crew at BRCC are not dumb people and most certainly are not liberals. They either know more about this whole story than anyone here, or we're looking at fake news.
Those guys are as pro-self defense and pro AR-15 as they come, and don't give a shït about being pressured by PC.
You guys want me to take a stance on a fella that runs into an empty $50 [bleep] shed with a first aid kit and a can of gas.
I think that ole boy deserves freedom or the electric chair, and maybe shoulda got burned up
More proof you never served. If you gave a [bleep] about this country you would stand for everything Kyle did, a brave young American stepping up for other Americans. If you would look into what happened instead of letting your retard bot programmer tell you what to think you might learn something.
There is a lot of talk of cowards and "leftists" being thrown around in this thread. Which one of you "true believers" have actually run towards the sound of gunfire? I can tell you from experience it ain't fun. Going on 22 years of it now. Talk is cheap. That is an actual fact.
There is a lot of talk of cowards and "leftists" being thrown around in this thread. Which one of you "true believers" have actually run towards the sound of gunfire? I can tell you from experience it ain't fun. Going on 22 years of it now. Talk is cheap. That is an actual fact.
Back the blue? hmmm will you be arresting patriots and seizing guns?
No Sir, but we are to far gone for me to say that today’s liberal is one of my countrymen, let em die
I see; you want to nuke my country
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I’d like to see a nuke drop on a few liberal cities, problem solved
Whatever it takes to fix it and collateral damage is only for those of us having the stomach for it, thats why you better enjoy the last of your freedoms punk.
Mat Best and his crew at BRCC are not dumb people and most certainly are not liberals. They either know more about this whole story than anyone here, or we're looking at fake news.
Those guys are as pro-self defense and pro AR-15 as they come, and don't give a shït about being pressured by PC.
Carry on, I guess...
This is a good take if someone wanted a fair and balanced point of view.
There is a lot of talk of cowards and "leftists" being thrown around in this thread. Which one of you "true believers" have actually run towards the sound of gunfire? I can tell you from experience it ain't fun. Going on 22 years of it now. Talk is cheap. That is an actual fact.
So why then are you taking the cowardly leftist scum side?
There is a lot of talk of cowards and "leftists" being thrown around in this thread. Which one of you "true believers" have actually run towards the sound of gunfire? I can tell you from experience it ain't fun. Going on 22 years of it now. Talk is cheap. That is an actual fact.
I called a C-130 Gunship in on my position Dec 19 1989. My helmet was tagged, I was the only survivor out of over 300 Panamanian defense forces, they used 105mm flechette rounds.
So let me get this straight, because a company, run by vets, gun nut vets, doesn't want to get behind an idiot teenager they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough? The fact that the kid killed two people that were found later to be bad guys does not make what he did heroic. He left his house with a rifle to "protect" property. If you look for trouble it isn't hard to find. Putting yourself in a bad situation and then claiming self defense is BS. At the point that kid pulled the trigger he was in fear for his life. Of that I have no doubt. How he got in a situation where he would be in fear for his life is, in my opinion, the crux of the matter. If he was defending his house, I have no problem. Anyone who hears there is a potential riot brewing and inserts themselves into it pretty much bought the ticket for that ride. I don't drink coffee but their company does a lot of good things for vets. If you think they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough for you, maybe the problem is you. Group think is still group think, regardless of the political party. Patrick
Seriously, at what point have I taken the side of the cowardly left? I stated, more than once, that defending your property is a righteous thing. Defending your life is also a righteous thing. Putting yourself intentionally in a situation where sugar is going to inevitably turn to [bleep] and then "defending" yourself is not so righteous. Bad judgement cost 2 lives. All of this could have been avoided had a parent stepped in.
Seriously, at what point have I taken the side of the cowardly left? I stated, more than once, that defending your property is a righteous thing. Defending your life is also a righteous thing. Putting yourself intentionally in a situation where sugar is going to inevitably turn to [bleep] and then "defending" yourself is not so righteous. Bad judgement cost 2 lives. All of this could have been avoided had a parent stepped in.
You should go back and re-read your post in context.... tells a different story
There is a lot of talk of cowards and "leftists" being thrown around in this thread. Which one of you "true believers" have actually run towards the sound of gunfire? I can tell you from experience it ain't fun. Going on 22 years of it now. Talk is cheap. That is an actual fact.
What's your point? Are you suggesting that those who haven't aren't permitted to have a strong negative opinion on an ostensibly "pro 2A" company, who has made good buck presenting themselves as pro 2A, caving on the 2A?
Seriously, at what point have I taken the side of the cowardly left? I stated, more than once, that defending your property is a righteous thing. Defending your life is also a righteous thing. Putting yourself intentionally in a situation where sugar is going to inevitably turn to [bleep] and then "defending" yourself is not so righteous. Bad judgement cost 2 lives. All of this could have been avoided had a parent stepped in.
So you think the two fks trying to kill the lad are worthy of life - they got just what they deserved and MANY MORE just like them deserve the same .
There is a lot of talk of cowards and "leftists" being thrown around in this thread. Which one of you "true believers" have actually run towards the sound of gunfire? I can tell you from experience it ain't fun. Going on 22 years of it now. Talk is cheap. That is an actual fact.
What's your point? Are you suggesting that those who haven't aren't permitted to have a strong negative opinion on an ostensibly "pro 2A" company, who has made good buck presenting themselves as pro 2A, caving on the 2A?
There is a lot of talk of cowards and "leftists" being thrown around in this thread. Which one of you "true believers" have actually run towards the sound of gunfire? I can tell you from experience it ain't fun. Going on 22 years of it now. Talk is cheap. That is an actual fact.
Back the blue? hmmm will you be arresting patriots and seizing guns?
So let me get this straight, because a company, run by vets, gun nut vets, doesn't want to get behind an idiot teenager they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough? The fact that the kid killed two people that were found later to be bad guys does not make what he did heroic. He left his house with a rifle to "protect" property. If you look for trouble it isn't hard to find. Putting yourself in a bad situation and then claiming self defense is BS. At the point that kid pulled the trigger he was in fear for his life. Of that I have no doubt. How he got in a situation where he would be in fear for his life is, in my opinion, the crux of the matter. If he was defending his house, I have no problem. Anyone who hears there is a potential riot brewing and inserts themselves into it pretty much bought the ticket for that ride. I don't drink coffee but their company does a lot of good things for vets. If you think they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough for you, maybe the problem is you. Group think is still group think, regardless of the political party. Patrick
Here's my original post. Still missing the leftest coward part.
There is a lot of talk of cowards and "leftists" being thrown around in this thread. Which one of you "true believers" have actually run towards the sound of gunfire? I can tell you from experience it ain't fun. Going on 22 years of it now. Talk is cheap. That is an actual fact.
I called a C-130 Gunship in on my position Dec 19 1989. My helmet was tagged, I was the only survivor out of over 300 Panamanian defense forces, they used 105mm flechette rounds.
Almost cowardly to let a 17 year old kid go out by himself. You'd think some of these high speed low drag super patriots would be holding the line until he gets bailed out. Mostly what I here is keyboard clicking and a loooot of crickets.
Fox news made their fortune thanks to conservatives.... yet when conservatives needed them they switched sides and stabbed them in the back.... so many are wondering if BRcoffee will do the same, reasonable assumption... a couple of folks that know them personally have vouched for them and they deserve the benefit of a doubt..... for now
Betrayal is nasty business. There's a reason treason is one of just a few capital crimes.
We have the rhino political class in this country because for too long we've settled and not held people accountable for betrayal. That's changing.
Wow. This is the insanity being peddled as normal these days.
Get off the fence Calvin.
Choose your side.
Calvin is virtue signaling with his moderate stance......
Probably live my life more conservatively than most. But that doesn’t mean I go full retard and start condemning fellow Republicans for not being on the extreme fringe. The far fight fringe will destroy the Republican Party at the rate it’s going.
Almost cowardly to let a 17 year old kid go out by himself. You'd think some of these high speed low drag super patriots would be holding the line until he gets bailed out. Mostly what I here is keyboard clicking and a loooot of crickets.
Ummm , we weren't aware that he was headed out with his AR15..... wtf
Almost cowardly to let a 17 year old kid go out by himself. You'd think some of these high speed low drag super patriots would be holding the line until he gets bailed out. Mostly what I here is keyboard clicking and a loooot of crickets.
Oh, quit being a fuqing drama queen. Who's advocating for that? Nobody.
Nobody was demanding the coffee company to raid the jail he was in. But if you're going to profit off being as "pro-2A" as they are, you'd at least think they wouldn't run from him either.
Betrayal is nasty business. There's a reason treason is one of just a few capital crimes.
We have the rhino political class in this country because for too long we've settled and not held people accountable for betrayal. That's changing.
Wow. This is the insanity being peddled as normal these days.
Get off the fence Calvin.
Choose your side.
Calvin is virtue signaling with his moderate stance......
Probably live my life more conservatively than most. But that doesn’t mean I go full retard and start condemning fellow Republicans for not being on the extreme fringe. The far fight fringe will destroy the Republican Party at the rate it’s going.
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You’re worried about the Republican Party.
That’s funny.
Talk about stupid..... why do you think the Republican party is worth saving? have you been paying attention?
Betrayal is nasty business. There's a reason treason is one of just a few capital crimes.
We have the rhino political class in this country because for too long we've settled and not held people accountable for betrayal. That's changing.
Wow. This is the insanity being peddled as normal these days.
Get off the fence Calvin.
Choose your side.
Calvin is virtue signaling with his moderate stance......
Probably live my life more conservatively than most. But that doesn’t mean I go full retard and start condemning fellow Republicans for not being on the extreme fringe. The far fight fringe will destroy the Republican Party at the rate it’s going.
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You’re worried about the Republican Party.
That’s funny.
Talk about stupid..... why do you think the Republican party is worth saving? have you been paying attention?
No one is calling for it but they are heaping praise on the dumbass kid who did. The reason no one is calling for it is because they may have to actually put up. They have the right to be wherever they want, it's just that they choose to be at their computer desk. Beginning to think that the 3% is the percentage that isn't morbidly obese. I though the sovereigns were blow hards but they actually did something. 3% seem to just put sporty stickers on the back window of their trucks. It does help me pick the dumb one out of the crowd, so I thank them for that.
Betrayal is nasty business. There's a reason treason is one of just a few capital crimes.
We have the rhino political class in this country because for too long we've settled and not held people accountable for betrayal. That's changing.
Wow. This is the insanity being peddled as normal these days.
Get off the fence Calvin.
Choose your side.
Calvin is virtue signaling with his moderate stance......
Probably live my life more conservatively than most. But that doesn’t mean I go full retard and start condemning fellow Republicans for not being on the extreme fringe. The far fight fringe will destroy the Republican Party at the rate it’s going.
.
You’re worried about the Republican Party.
That’s funny.
Talk about stupid..... why do you think the Republican party is worth saving? have you been paying attention?
Trump ran and won as a republican. He won’t be the last to win. Dip your toe into the retard pool all you want but the Republican Party is all that’s able to stand in the way of the left.
The quirky My Pillow guy and former Hollywood child actor went out on record and donated money to bond Rittenhouse out of jail. Meanwhile a company that has cultivated there entire image on being “edgy” non PC, pro 2A, pro freedom. Dropped a sponsorship because they either do not support Rittenhouses actions or they do but don’t have the balls to say it. BRC’s advertising was always millennial style look at me being edgy more than any real substance. BRC less guts and commitment than freaking Ricky Schroeder and the My Pillow Guy!
Spot on.
Other than they didn't drop sponsorship and simply clarified their sponsered guy was not representing them in the matter, which they have not actually weighed in on. Nothing burger.
The quirky My Pillow guy and former Hollywood child actor went out on record and donated money to bond Rittenhouse out of jail. Meanwhile a company that has cultivated there entire image on being “edgy” non PC, pro 2A, pro freedom. Dropped a sponsorship because they either do not support Rittenhouses actions or they do but don’t have the balls to say it. BRC’s advertising was always millennial style look at me being edgy more than any real substance. BRC less guts and commitment than freaking Ricky Schroeder and the My Pillow Guy!
Spot on.
Other than they didn't drop sponsorship and simply clarified their sponsered guy was not representing them in the matter, which they have not actually weighed in on. Nothing burger.
Again I’ll ask the folk that idolize Kyle, when are you gonna stand up and make a difference...you ain’t!
Buncha can’t cut-it-cckunts
Those bombs they dropped on you in the gulf rattled your brain..... do you get disability?
The funny part is you think thats funny. Bring your ass on down here to SAMMC and see what some Patriots with explosive rattle brains look like you POS
Ask not what your country can do for you...go now, make a difference!
Says the guy who claims to be the sole survivor of an airstrike that killed more PDF fighters then the official US military estimate of PDF KIAs in the entire invasion....but also claims said airstrike occurred the DAY BEFORE the invasion began! LMAO!!!
Ask not what your country can do for you...go now, make a difference!
Says the guy who claims to be the sole survivor of an airstrike that killed more PDF fighters then the official US military estimate of PDF KIAs in the entire invasion....but also claims said airstrike occurred the DAY BEFORE the invasion began! LMAO!!!
I got news for you Son, they have no idea the official death toll, especially collateral civilians.
The Operation started the evening of the 19th
Wanna know who guided the first stealth to target...right here bud.
Ain’t nuthin you can tell me about that operation, I assure you that.
From the link in the op for the peanut gallery. Please have someone read it to you guys..
"A Black Rifle spokeswoman initially told The Salt Lake Tribune that the company was ending its sponsorship of the podcast. However, she later clarified her comments, saying she misunderstood.
“We are not fluctuating our ad spend,” she told the Tribune in a text message. “We did have a conversation with Schaffer, and he understands that the post was a mistake.”
After clarifying the company’s continuing sponsorship of Blaze Media,.......”
From the link in the op for the peanut gallery. Please have someone read it to you guys..
"A Black Rifle spokeswoman initially told The Salt Lake Tribune that the company was ending its sponsorship of the podcast. However, she later clarified her comments, saying she misunderstood.
“We are not fluctuating our ad spend,” she told the Tribune in a text message. “We did have a conversation with Schaffer, and he understands that the post was a mistake.”
After clarifying the company’s continuing sponsorship of Blaze Media,.......”
Good to hear. This is exactly why you hold companies feet to the fire and vote with the almighty dollar ie boycotting and contacting companies to let them know you’re going to make your stance on a company heard across social media. The left figured this out a long time ago and it’s why they usually have such a strangle hold on media and mass marketing. It’s good to see it worked out in the right direction this time. If our voices aren’t heard BRC removes dollars from a company for not being PC and it’s one more small step in censorship of right leaning viewpoints.
So let me get this straight, because a company, run by vets, gun nut vets, doesn't want to get behind an idiot teenager they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough? Patrick
You don't seem to know the facts in the Rittenhouse case. It is with out a doubt a clear cut case of self defense and it was fully documented on video from multiple angles. If this young man is found guilty then self defense is virtually meaningless when the mobs come.
Or, it's why ya'll could possibly read the god damned link before everyone freaks the fuuck out. Nothing has happened here. Absofuuckingluttely nothin. They didn't make a statement against the 2A or against the KK for Christ's sake. They simply clarified the fact that they are not making a statement! For phucqk's sake everyone is arguing about who's more damned right leaning cutting our own throats. Ya'll do not have to agree with everyone on every aspect of everything to be on the same side! We'll fuucking loose it all that way. Phucqk. Cumbaya Cumbaya Cumbaya
So let me get this straight, because a company, run by vets, gun nut vets, doesn't want to get behind an idiot teenager they should be run out of business because they aren't 2A enough? Patrick
You don't seem to know the facts in the Rittenhouse case. It is with out a doubt a clear cut case of self defense and it was fully documented on video from multiple angles. If this young man is found guilty then self defense is virtually meaningless when the mobs come.
Bingo!
I agree TRH, I do think Rittenhouse was a fool for putting himself in that position but he had every right to be there. He didn't cause the situation, his dead adversaries did and he took care of it to his advantage.
Deflave, we know you ain’t running into a burning city but the wanna-bees should certainly do it.
Everything about the situation is a positive to me.
The highlights that make me giddy are:
the first guy shot said “shoot me”, bet he won’t say that again.
A skateboard is no match for an AR, bet he won’t do that again
If you pull a gun on someone don’t hesitate or you’ll get your bicep blown off, bet he won’t do that again
In this case Kyle is the collateral damage for the good that came out of it. He was stupid enough to place himself in that position and because he was a minor set his mom up for a lifetime of liability suits. The Darwin award should be shared between him and his mom, either way two stupid folks are out of commission too.
So you think a veteran owned company should go under for making this statement?
“We do not support legal advocacy efforts,” said co-founder Evan Hafer in a statement. “We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI.”
Then quit selling f u ggin over priced T shirts with your brand emblazoned on them.
Deflave, we know you ain’t running into a burning city but the wanna-bees should certainly do it.
Everything about the situation is a positive to me.
The highlights that make me giddy are:
the first guy shot said “shoot me”, bet he won’t say that again.
A skateboard is no match for an AR, bet he won’t do that again
If you pull a gun on someone don’t hesitate or you’ll get your bicep blown off, bet he won’t do that again
In this case Kyle is the collateral damage for the good that came out of it. He was stupid enough to place himself in that position and because he was a minor set his mom up for a lifetime of liability suits. The Darwin award should be shared between him and his mom, either way two stupid folks are out of commission too.
So you think a veteran owned company should go under for making this statement?
“We do not support legal advocacy efforts,” said co-founder Evan Hafer in a statement. “We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI.”
Then quit selling f u ggin over priced T shirts with your brand emblazoned on them.
That’s really what it comes down to.
They should have handled it like Nike or Adidas. They make a lot of shirts and can’t decide who wears it.
The dispute with the podcast host could have been handled offline.
Deflave, we know you ain’t running into a burning city but the wanna-bees should certainly do it.
Everything about the situation is a positive to me.
The highlights that make me giddy are:
the first guy shot said “shoot me”, bet he won’t say that again.
A skateboard is no match for an AR, bet he won’t do that again
If you pull a gun on someone don’t hesitate or you’ll get your bicep blown off, bet he won’t do that again
In this case Kyle is the collateral damage for the good that came out of it. He was stupid enough to place himself in that position and because he was a minor set his mom up for a lifetime of liability suits. The Darwin award should be shared between him and his mom, either way two stupid folks are out of commission too.
That is right up there with some of the dumbest schit I've ever read on this forum.
The quirky My Pillow guy and former Hollywood child actor went out on record and donated money to bond Rittenhouse out of jail. Meanwhile a company that has cultivated there entire image on being “edgy” non PC, pro 2A, pro freedom. Dropped a sponsorship because they either do not support Rittenhouses actions or they do but don’t have the balls to say it. BRC’s advertising was always millennial style look at me being edgy more than any real substance. BRC less guts and commitment than freaking Ricky Schroeder and the My Pillow Guy!
In this case Kyle is the collateral damage for the good that came out of it. He was stupid enough to place himself in that position and because he was a minor set his mom up for a lifetime of liability suits. The Darwin award should be shared between him and his mom, either way two stupid folks are out of commission too.
Ever day we should thank God for men "stupid enough" to sign up to put them selves in harm's way. We probably wouldn't be discussing this in English if it weren't for men like that.
Or, it's why ya'll could possibly read the god damned link before everyone freaks the fuuck out. Nothing has happened here. Absofuuckingluttely nothin. They didn't make a statement against the 2A or against the KK for Christ's sake. They simply clarified the fact that they are not making a statement! For phucqk's sake everyone is arguing about who's more damned right leaning cutting our own throats. Ya'll do not have to agree with everyone on every aspect of everything to be on the same side! We'll fuucking loose it all that way. Phucqk. Cumbaya Cumbaya Cumbaya
^^^^ This, reading is difficult. Some folks on here need to up their cognition game, try googling Matt Best and BRCC. No baker should be forced to make a homo cake but a veteran owned coffee company has less right to make decisions. Matt Best had 5 deployments as an U.S. Army Ranger in Iraq and Afghanistan but the 2A warriors on here question the patriotism of those who step up. While hiding behind the skirts of a 17 y/o kid.
Lack of reading comprehension augmented by loud voices and obfuscation lead to 13 page thread of bullschidt.
Are you saying BRCC is not bothered by Kyle wearing one of their shirts. I called them at 10:30 AM today and got an answering machine that told me I called after hours. What's up with that?
Are you saying BRCC is not bothered by Kyle wearing one of their shirts. I called them at 10:30 AM today and got an answering machine that told me I called after hours. What's up with that?
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
That's what a huge majority on this forum does.
Personally I buy the best tasting organic coffee I can find and could give a chit what the owners do or don't support.
But I've always thought real patriotism had to do with supporting the constitution and nothing else...
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
That's what a huge majority on this forum does.
Personally I buy the best tasting organic coffee I can find and could give a chit what the owners do or don't support.
But I've always thought real patriotism had to do with supporting the constitution and nothing else...
Check out the brain on Brad! You do realize they built their business off being "pro-2A" right? Or do you think they scaled their business in 5 years because they figured out coffee when none of the other 1000s of other azzholes in the coffee industry couldn't? Hmmmm.....
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
That's what a huge majority on this forum does.
Personally I buy the best tasting organic coffee I can find and could give a chit what the owners do or don't support.
But I've always thought real patriotism had to do with supporting the constitution and nothing else...
The Kenosha case is about the constitution. That's the point. It's not about Kyle.
Check out the brain on Brad! You do realize they built their business off being "pro-2A" right? Or do you think they scaled their business in 5 years because they figured out coffee when none of the other 1000s of other azzholes in the coffee industry couldn't? Hmmmm.....
Not surprising my comments went right over your head...
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
That's what a huge majority on this forum does.
Personally I buy the best tasting organic coffee I can find and could give a chit what the owners do or don't support.
But I've always thought real patriotism had to do with supporting the constitution and nothing else...
The op posted an article indicating BRcoffee pulled sponsorship from blaze over a picture of Rittenhouse. The thread took off on that premise.
You say patriotism is based on the constitution and I can't disagree with that.... so the question is do you believe Rittenhouse was exercising his constitutional rights?
And do you believe we have the right to support a business or not of our choosing?
A couple of people opined based on personal knowledge, BR was good to go, and we have now found out they are.... seems to me a good and fair outcome.
And we flushed out a few middle of the road fair weather patriots in the process....
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
Yup. The left doesn't have a monopoly on the cancel culture. Our side is just as stupid
Looks pretty bad for the brcc boys. You cannot reconcile the donations to gun grabbers.
Their whole persona is guns, freedom and tits. Did we just get sold a bill of goods? Or, are they so deep in a bro-bubble they forgot who bought the [bleep]?
It’s looking like Evan has a little activist streak.
Wasn’t for tying though. Wonder who stood in the way?
The White House's proposed congressional actions were these:[19]
Requiring criminal background checks for all gun sales, including those by private sellers that currently are exempt. Reinstating and strengthening the federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 (AWB 1994) that expired in 2004. Limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds. Banning the possession of armor-piercing bullets by anyone other than members of the military and law enforcement. Increasing criminal penalties for "straw purchasers" who pass the required background check to buy a gun on behalf of someone else. Acting on a $4 billion administration proposal to help keep 15,000 police officers on the street.
They have done more, employed more, spent more money on veterans than 99% of you combined. They want to have 10k veterans on the payroll by I believe 2025 in response to Starbucks saying they were going to hire 10k refugees.. Hafer spent more than 8 years of his life in Iraq and Afghanistan. Smart guy. There's a lot of you guys that pick weird hills to die on.
Wasn’t for tying though. Wonder who stood in the way?
The White House's proposed congressional actions were these:[19]
Requiring criminal background checks for all gun sales, including those by private sellers that currently are exempt. Reinstating and strengthening the federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 (AWB 1994) that expired in 2004. Limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds. Banning the possession of armor-piercing bullets by anyone other than members of the military and law enforcement. Increasing criminal penalties for "straw purchasers" who pass the required background check to buy a gun on behalf of someone else. Acting on a $4 billion administration proposal to help keep 15,000 police officers on the street.
They have done more, employed more, spent more money on veterans than 99% of you combined. Hafer spent more than 8 years of his life in Iraq and Afghanistan. Smart guy.
But, suck just one kak, and be known as a kaksucker for life....
They have done more, employed more, spent more money on veterans than 99% of you combined. Hafer spent more than 8 years of his life in Iraq and Afghanistan. Smart guy.
But, suck just one kak, and be known as a kaksucker for life....
They have done more, employed more, spent more money on veterans than 99% of you combined. Hafer spent more than 8 years of his life in Iraq and Afghanistan. Smart guy.
But, suck just one kak, and be known as a kaksucker for life....
Sounds like you have firsthand knowledge
Are you so naive that you think no other company hires veterans? Hook, line, and sinker! He donated to veterans like Tulsi Gabbard and McCain. Donated to Obama too. People that are totally okay with voting away your rights. At least anti-2A companies don’t paint a rifle on the building to dupe folks.
They have done more, employed more, spent more money on veterans than 99% of you combined. Hafer spent more than 8 years of his life in Iraq and Afghanistan. Smart guy.
But, suck just one kak, and be known as a kaksucker for life....
Sounds like you have firsthand knowledge
Are you so naive that you think no other company hires veterans? Hook, line, and sinker! He donated to veterans like Tulsi Gabbard and McCain. Donated to Obama too. People that are totally okay with voting away your rights. At least anti-2A companies don’t paint a rifle on the building to dupe folks.
HAHA. Its very apparent you have no idea what they do. How they market, who they hire or their own contributions to the country. Now if you knew your ass from a hole in the ground about them you would know he openly admits that after 8 years of near constant combat operations he went through a very hard time in life. Even having his contract with the CIA terminated. Which after getting his [bleep] together started the company and started hiring other veterans with similar problems. But I'm sure with your extensive background in extreme pressure you never made a poor decision or a mistake. This entire sub is becoming bitter old guys that are eating their own. 7 days ago most of the guys one here would have kissed the ground they walked on with their military resumes. Now this ridiculous Rittenhouse thing comes up and they become cancel culture snowflakes. This website is becoming everything they hated before. Buncha whiny cancel culture bitches
They have done more, employed more, spent more money on veterans than 99% of you combined. Hafer spent more than 8 years of his life in Iraq and Afghanistan. Smart guy.
But, suck just one kak, and be known as a kaksucker for life....
Sounds like you have firsthand knowledge
Are you so naive that you think no other company hires veterans? Hook, line, and sinker! He donated to veterans like Tulsi Gabbard and McCain. Donated to Obama too. People that are totally okay with voting away your rights. At least anti-2A companies don’t paint a rifle on the building to dupe folks.
HAHA. Its very apparent you have no idea what they do. How they market, who they hire or their own contributions to the country. Now if you knew your ass from a hole in the ground about them you would know he openly admits that after 8 years of near constant combat operations he went through a very hard time in life. Even having his contract with the CIA terminated. Which after getting his [bleep] together started the company and started hiring other veterans with similar problems. But I'm sure with your extensive background in extreme pressure you never made a poor decision or a mistake. This entire sub is becoming bitter old guys that are eating their own. 7 days ago most of the guys one here would have kissed the ground they walked on with their military resumes. Now this ridiculous Rittenhouse thing comes up and they become cancel culture snowflakes. This website is becoming everything they hated before. Buncha whiny cancel culture bitches
So, have they called you for your second round interview yet?
He didn’t make a “mistake”. Taking a wrong turn or cutting an extra 1/8 off a 2x4 is a mistake. He got caught deliberately using the imagery of firearms and feel good stuff about veterans to get rich on the faith of people that believe in the same thing, who hoped they were supporting a company with those values.
They have done more, employed more, spent more money on veterans than 99% of you combined. They want to have 10k veterans on the payroll by I believe 2025 in response to Starbucks saying they were going to hire 10k refugees.. Hafer spent more than 8 years of his life in Iraq and Afghanistan. Smart guy. There's a lot of you guys that pick weird hills to die on.
That’s great but being pro veteran isn’t the same as being pro constitution. They built there brand on being for both and that was the reason to buy it (let’s be honest it doesn’t take a genius to sell coffee). Arguing against a boycott and emails speaking out makes about zero sense given that there first reaction was to cutoff ties end of story. They backpedaled and issued a public statement because they got pro Rittenhouse pushback. Like it or not these are the peaceful non “I got an AR when’s the revolution” tactics that the left uses and we need to use them to. They work and sure as hell beat sitting around with an AR doing nothing and waiting to get shot.
Just fuuckin wow.... buncha ignorant dumbfuucks here... almost unbelievable until I see who’s posting....
So yes to brc coffee? Or no???
A co-worker has brought in their Beyond Black roast a couple of times - 5 # bags at that. It is roasted all to hell and tastes like it. It takes a while to go thru 5# bags.
I'm more of a medium to med-dark roast guy myself.
They have done more, employed more, spent more money on veterans than 99% of you combined. Hafer spent more than 8 years of his life in Iraq and Afghanistan. Smart guy.
But, suck just one kak, and be known as a kaksucker for life....
Sounds like you have firsthand knowledge
Are you so naive that you think no other company hires veterans? Hook, line, and sinker! He donated to veterans like Tulsi Gabbard and McCain. Donated to Obama too. People that are totally okay with voting away your rights. At least anti-2A companies don’t paint a rifle on the building to dupe folks.
HAHA. Its very apparent you have no idea what they do. How they market, who they hire or their own contributions to the country. Now if you knew your ass from a hole in the ground about them you would know he openly admits that after 8 years of near constant combat operations he went through a very hard time in life. Even having his contract with the CIA terminated. Which after getting his [bleep] together started the company and started hiring other veterans with similar problems. But I'm sure with your extensive background in extreme pressure you never made a poor decision or a mistake. This entire sub is becoming bitter old guys that are eating their own. 7 days ago most of the guys one here would have kissed the ground they walked on with their military resumes. Now this ridiculous Rittenhouse thing comes up and they become cancel culture snowflakes. This website is becoming everything they hated before. Buncha whiny cancel culture bitches
Just fuuckin wow.... buncha ignorant dumbfuucks here... almost unbelievable until I see who’s posting....
So yes to brc coffee? Or no???
He thinks Trump should concede so phugg him
Jud may not be a Trump fan? this is the second cryptic post I have seen indicating that, he won't respond
Brian I voted for trump, if that matters. The ship has sailed, it’s OVER we got 4 years of Biden..
I drink brc daily at work, several cups. I work with a shiitload of vets, it’s what we drink.
Ok Jud, Another question... do you believe he lost fair and square?
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Judman
Just fuuckin wow.... buncha ignorant dumbfuucks here... almost unbelievable until I see who’s posting....
So yes to brc coffee? Or no???
He thinks Trump should concede so phugg him
Jud may not be a Trump fan? this is the second cryptic post I have seen indicating that, he won't respond
Brian I voted for trump, if that matters. The ship has sailed, it’s OVER we got 4 years of Biden..
I drink brc daily at work, several cups. I work with a shiitload of vets, it’s what we drink.
Ok Jud, Another question... do you believe he lost fair and square?
I have not researched it, been busy huntin, and as of late, taking care of a wife sick with “fake” covid and trying to stay healthy myself
Fair enough Jud.... unfortunately I have been addicted to politics for 40 yrs..... a habit I am trying to quit, but I firmly believe this has been a stolen election... if they pull it off. I also believe this could be a turning point for our country and everything we hold dear could be lost....
I probably should be too, I just do my own thing, and that revolves around huntin and fishin and family around the place here.
Ya know Jud in some ways I envy that attitude, if Biden wins I am going to do everything I can to do the same
I’m with Judman on politicians. To me it’s “name your poison!” Basically to me, you have criminals who work for you or against you. Take your pick.
They never miss any meals!
I'm with Jud and kaywoodie. I could give a chit less what some talking-head on FOX said last night, the latest conspiracy theory, or a crytic political tweet stirring things up. The 2016 election night was probably the last time I watched one of the all-news channels.
Several, good friends of mine are very interesting to talk with unless the conversation gets on politics.... They will get totally wrapped around the axle with anything political, to the point they lose all reason and really get worked up. Being into politics would be a hard burden to bear, I'd think?
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
Pro2a yet donated to Obama ...... maybe they duped you? maybe you should apologize to Hawkeye? Maybe you should learn to be better informed before running your mouth....
I don’t care who he donated to. I can’t believe a veteran like yourself advocates destroying veteran owned businesses that employ veterans. What branch of the service were you in again?
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Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
Pro2a yet donated to Obama ...... maybe they duped you? maybe you should apologize to Hawkeye? Maybe you should learn to be better informed before running your mouth....
I don’t care who he donated to. I can’t believe a veteran like yourself advocates destroying veteran owned businesses that employ veterans. What branch of the service were you in again?
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
They gave into pressure from the anti-gun left. That's what that statement was about, no matter how carefully they worded it. It was fear that motivated it.
It’s a veteran owned business. They made a business decision. Pro 2a and you want it to go under? WTF is wrong with you? You plan on destroying everything that doesn’t fit into your kooky universe?
Pro2a yet donated to Obama ...... maybe they duped you? maybe you should apologize to Hawkeye? Maybe you should learn to be better informed before running your mouth....
Who the fugg cares if it’s veteran owned if the owner is giving money to the Obama election campaign? How pro 2A and constitutional can the owner be if he’s going out of his way to not just vote for Obama but contributed money to his election campaign.
So donating to Obama while you pretend you love the 2nd amend. is ok? Lying and lack of integrity is ok? fooling people for profit is ok? selling out your country for profit is ok? I guess all that matters is that you are a veteran..... John Kerry was a veteran, is he cool? Integrity it's a thing. Honesty it'a a thing.
This guy gets it.... maybe someday you will too Calvin.... I am not holding out much hope as you are a proven liar
WTF does being a veteran have to do with anything?
Tulsi Gabbard is a veteran. So is Dan Crenshaw. Does that make their views on all things infallible? Of course it doesn't. They still say and do stupid schit.
Advocates of the 2nd are a fickle lot and their patience for stupid hovers somewhere near zero. If you want to name your product after the AR15, you might wanna be more calculated in your statements regarding all things AR15.
I don’t care who he donated to. I can’t believe a veteran like yourself advocates destroying veteran owned businesses that employ veterans. What branch of the service were you in again?
You get a lot of mileage out of that veteran bullschit.
WTF does being a veteran have to do with anything?
Tulsi Gabbard is a veteran. So is Dan Crenshaw. Does that make their views on all things infallible? Of course it doesn't. They still say and do stupid schit.
Advocates of the 2nd are a fickle lot and their patience for stupid hovers somewhere near zero. If you want to name your product after the AR15, you might wanna be more calculated in your statements regarding all things AR15.
So donating to Obama while you pretend you love the 2nd amend. is ok? Lying and lack of integrity is ok? fooling people for profit is ok? selling out your country for profit is ok? I guess all that matters is that you are a veteran..... John Kerry was a veteran, is he cool? Integrity it's a thing. Honesty it'a a thing.
This guy gets it.... maybe someday you will too Calvin.... I am not holding out much hope as you are a proven liar
WTF does being a veteran have to do with anything?
Tulsi Gabbard is a veteran. So is Dan Crenshaw. Does that make their views on all things infallible? Of course it doesn't. They still say and do stupid schit.
Advocates of the 2nd are a fickle lot and their patience for stupid hovers somewhere near zero. If you want to name your product after the AR15, you might wanna be more calculated in your statements regarding all things AR15.
If you were the owner of BRC, and a podcast you sponsored had posted that pic without consulting you first, what would you have done?
If I'm a veteran, and I'm pro 2nd Amendment, it's ok to send a check to the Brady Campaign? If I'm not a veteran, but pro 2nd Amendment, is it still ok to send a check to the Brady Campaign? If I'm not a veteran, and anti 2nd Amendment, I'm guessing it's not ok to send a check to the Brady Campaign?
Seems to me that BRC handled it wrong. They just should have quietly told the Blaze to delete the photo and then SHUT UP!
I can see their point, that they don't want to take a political position either way. Smart business. But the very name of their company is itself a political position. Ya' need to dance with the guy what brung ya.
With me it's all or nothing. Never tried their coffee. Never will.
A company with an AR-15 on the bag has chose to isolate 50% of the idiots in this country right off the bat, why not take a stance and shore up your customer base? Politically, wgaf, but from a marketing standpoint, I think they completely misunderstand their target audience. Owner might be a great dude but he has idiots working for him.
WTF does being a veteran have to do with anything?
Tulsi Gabbard is a veteran. So is Dan Crenshaw. Does that make their views on all things infallible? Of course it doesn't. They still say and do stupid schit.
Advocates of the 2nd are a fickle lot and their patience for stupid hovers somewhere near zero. If you want to name your product after the AR15, you might wanna be more calculated in your statements regarding all things AR15.
If you were the owner of BRC, and a podcast you sponsored had posted that pic without consulting you first, what would you have done?
Come out with a new line called the “Kenosha blend”
WTF does being a veteran have to do with anything?
Tulsi Gabbard is a veteran. So is Dan Crenshaw. Does that make their views on all things infallible? Of course it doesn't. They still say and do stupid schit.
Advocates of the 2nd are a fickle lot and their patience for stupid hovers somewhere near zero. If you want to name your product after the AR15, you might wanna be more calculated in your statements regarding all things AR15.
If you were the owner of BRC, and a podcast you sponsored had posted that pic without consulting you first, what would you have done?
That is no longer the issue. Not by a long shot. That they employ vets is completely immaterial.
I've seen the donation history. I have yet to see where the company supports the 2A. This is all I need to make my personal choice not to buy their products.
It is going to be interesting to see how this plays out financially for them. I don't know why they had to have a comment about this at all. What is wrong with a company not wading into public politics? If someone wants a comment from them instead of this:
“we do not support legal advocacy efforts. We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI,”
Why not this.
"we believe strongly in the concept of innocent until proven guilty"
Or:
"we don't make public comments on political matters."
It is going to be interesting to see how this plays out financially for them. I don't know why they had to have a comment about this at all. What is wrong with a company not wading into public politics? If someone wants a comment from them instead of this:
“we do not support legal advocacy efforts. We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI,”
Why not this.
"we believe strongly in the concept of innocent until proven guilty"
Or:
"we don't make public comments on political matters."
"we believe strongly in the concept of innocent until proven guilty"
Their entire marketing strategy has been to play up an unwavering support of the 2A. Without that strategy, they would have just been another bunch of azzholes in a sea of azzholes making crappy coffee and nobody would have bought it.
His veteran status??? Who gives a flying fuq especially when he's providing financial support to the very chitbags trying to take our guns away.
And dumbazzes who want to turn a blind eye to politics might wish you hadn't when in another 10-20 years the only fuqing rifle you're allowed to own and hunt with is a break action New England firearms that took a mountain of paperwork and licenses to obtain.
Lol, Snopes has about as much credibility as.....Well, you. Besides you can't say trump doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to Heel Up Harris, He knows she's corrupt as he bought her.........
You left out the part of the article that shows Trump has not donated any significant amounts to Democrats since 2011. It is no secret that Trump supported Democrats in the past, many on the right were very leery of him for that reason. Also, he is a developer and he probably had to donate to the Dems to get support for his projects (pay to play) Another possibility is he simply opened his eyes and accepted the truth (Democrats are scum) This is typical Sycamore, show partial misleading info.... . always slanted towards the left.
HIGHLIGHTS From 1989 to 2015, Donald Trump made $1,845,290 worth of political donations. Republicans received $1,150,540, and Democrats received $694,750. Before 2011, Trump donated more money to Democrats than Republicans. Between 2011 and 2015, Trump contributed $8,500 to Democrats and $630,150 to Republicans.
WTF does being a veteran have to do with anything?
Tulsi Gabbard is a veteran. So is Dan Crenshaw. Does that make their views on all things infallible? Of course it doesn't. They still say and do stupid schit.
Advocates of the 2nd are a fickle lot and their patience for stupid hovers somewhere near zero. If you want to name your product after the AR15, you might wanna be more calculated in your statements regarding all things AR15.
100% agree.
Yup.
I don't buy expensive coffee anyway, but a lot of my friends buy their stuff. I'll make sure they are aware of all this.
They should re-invent themselves..... call it cockadoodle coffee. with a picture of a fuzzy puppy for a logo.....
They should call it "We're veterans."
LOL
VFW
“Veterans of Forlorn Wars”
1. pitifully sad and abandoned or lonely. "forlorn figures at bus stops" 2. (of an aim or endeavor) unlikely to succeed or be fulfilled; hopeless. "a forlorn attempt to escape"
Our politicians haven’t found a worthwhile war in over 70 years...
You left out the part of the article that shows Trump has not donated any significant amounts to Democrats since 2011. It is no secret that Trump supported Democrats in the past, many on the right were very leery of him for that reason. Also, he is a developer and he probably had to donate to the Dems to get support for his projects (pay to play) Another possibility is he simply opened his eyes and accepted the truth (Democrats are scum) This is typical Sycamore, show partial misleading info.... . always slanted towards the left.
HIGHLIGHTS From 1989 to 2015, Donald Trump made $1,845,290 worth of political donations. Republicans received $1,150,540, and Democrats received $694,750. Before 2011, Trump donated more money to Democrats than Republicans. Between 2011 and 2015, Trump contributed $8,500 to Democrats and $630,150 to Republicans.
You left out the part of the article that shows Trump has not donated any significant amounts to Democrats since 2011. It is no secret that Trump supported Democrats in the past, many on the right were very leery of him for that reason. Also, he is a developer and he probably had to donate to the Dems to get support for his projects (pay to play) Another possibility is he simply opened his eyes and accepted the truth (Democrats are scum) This is typical Sycamore, show partial misleading info.... . always slanted towards the left.
HIGHLIGHTS From 1989 to 2015, Donald Trump made $1,845,290 worth of political donations. Republicans received $1,150,540, and Democrats received $694,750. Before 2011, Trump donated more money to Democrats than Republicans. Between 2011 and 2015, Trump contributed $8,500 to Democrats and $630,150 to Republicans.
If you’d ran a business at some point in your retarded life you’d already know, that you have to pay to play, especially at his level. You think these idiots become multimillionaires by working 20 years in D.C. at $150k a year?
They have a gun on their bag, and through ingenious marketing they’re able to convince people to pay 3x what they would if it didn’t have a gun on the bag.
If you’d ran a business at some point in your retarded life you’d already know, that you have to pay to play, especially at his level. You think these idiots become multimillionaires by working 20 years in D.C. at $150k a year?
So what you are saying , should be no big deal who BRC donated to?
They have a gun on their bag, and through ingenious marketing they’re able to convince people to pay 3x what they would if it didn’t have a gun on the bag. Consumers are stupid and that’s being generous.
If you’d ran a business at some point in your retarded life you’d already know, that you have to pay to play, especially at his level. You think these idiots become multimillionaires by working 20 years in D.C. at $150k a year?
So what you are saying , should be no big deal who BRC donated to?
From a business standpoint? You’re selling a product that is 100% dependent on conservative gun owners to buy your product. You’ve isolated any liberal customers by your deliberate marketing Donating to a liberal politician and making a public stance that doesnt support your marketing narrative was absolutely stupid.
Is it a big deal to me? No. I’m not stupid enough to spend that king of coin on coffee when I could use it to buy better bourbon.
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