Yes, I’ll take it when available. Both my adult kids are essentials, and have taken it. No side effects. I think some had a little reaction to the polio vaccine back in the 50s when I took it. Glad my parents were not anti vaccine.
One in one hundred have experienced side effects acknowledged by the drug makers. In reality many have died within 48 hours, and many more experience horrible side effects. They can't say Covid obviously, so they come up with another "cause".
They can pack that vaccine where the sun don't shine.
All this bullshiiiiit over a cold/flu virus that has a 99.5% survival rate.
The wife and I will take it as soon as it's available.. I've had this crap twice and she's had it once.. I was simply sick, my wife developed Covid related pneumonia and had a very tough recovery... We are taking the vaccine.
Nope. Vaccines for Coronaviruses have never been successful in the past at effectively immunizing, and previous long term animal studies have shown them to be harmful. This one was rushed to market, entirely skipping the animal study phase of development. Formula for disaster. No thanks.
There's a reason there's never before been a vaccine on the market for coronaviruses. Were it not for the 100% shield against lawsuits, big pharma wouldn't have touched this with a ten foot pole.
There was a report from England that said there will be even more problems when another type of flu or coronavirus occurs and people get exposed to it that had this vaccine. Something about the way this vaccine produces changes in the body, which will prevent natural immune response in the future. Certainly didn't sound good, if it was true.
Pretty simple really. The one phrase these “smart people” never use is, “I don’t know”. To them it’s like a man saying his pecker is too short or wobbly. How many times have they changed the official story on masks, contagiousness, incubation periods, etc? Common sense (your own) is the best defense available. Stay the Hell away from other people as much as possible.
did the deed this tuesday at 3:10 pm. my wife wouldn't go there. arm barely sore the next morning. i notice i have a desire to trap squirrels at the bird feeder. did they give me the wrong vaccine?
btw, mine was the moderna flavor. would have to drive through traffic to get the pfizer flavor. to heck with that. my local doctor's office had no clue. got mine from the health dept.
Still have another month to decide before I'm even eligible. We'll see how things are going by then.
It takes seven years to establish the absence of long-term adverse effects from an entirely new approach to vaccination. Rushing it to market was reckless considering COVID19 has a 99.8% survival rate.
"That means that for people 69 years old or younger, the survival rate is between 99.5 percent and 99.997 percent, while for those 70 or older, it is an estimated 94.6 percent." - Source
i ask those folks why they didn't use airguns like in the army. line'em up, and march them through. the hotter the weather the better. they didn't seem to know what air guns were.
i ask those folks why they didn't use airguns like in the army. line'em up, and march them through. the hotter the weather the better. they didn't seem to know what air guns were.
Still have another month to decide before I'm even eligible. We'll see how things are going by then.
It takes seven years to establish the absence of long-term adverse effects from an entirely new approach to vaccination. Rushing it to market was reckless considering COVID19 has a 99.8% survival rate.
hawk, i took that statistic into account. with my co-health issues i optioned for the shot. others will have to evaluate and assess and decide for themselves just like the rest of us.
i ask those folks why they didn't use airguns like in the army. line'em up, and march them through. the hotter the weather the better. they didn't seem to know what air guns were.
Agreed,they don't..Once you have been through the line with your t-shirt rolled up on both arms and getting air shots with blood vesels exploding in front of you,this is a piece of cake..
Still have another month to decide before I'm even eligible. We'll see how things are going by then.
It takes seven years to establish the absence of long-term adverse effects from an entirely new approach to vaccination. Rushing it to market was reckless considering COVID19 has a 99.8% survival rate.
hawk, i took that statistic into account. with my co-health issues i optioned for the shot. others will have to evaluate and assess and decide for themselves just like the rest of us.
Likely, the vast majority of those who died from it (that tiny percent) were deficient in vitamin D. It's likely, also, that supplementing with D reduces the death rate from COVID to nearly non-existent.
Hanco: I have never taken a "flu inoculation" in my life but "I" am chomping at the bit to get this china red death vaccination! Yes I plan on taking the vaccine. Tired of this lay low and lock up at home crap. We'll see. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
I am in the individual choice camp. If a person does not want it then the decision is theirs.
For me Canada is way behind on vaccination roll out so an advantage is getting to watch what is happening in the rest of the world particularly with certain vaccines.
When a vaccine is available to me it will be well into the fall or perhaps early next year and at that point I will get a shot, depending on what is available.
We haven't been hiding at all since the China flu BS started and so far so good. Why would you get the vaccine for the China flu if you haven't contracted it yet?
i sure will ,i have no reason not too. i feel best thing for me to do might help protect my family ,i don`t want my grandkids to get sick cause i did not take this shot or even another flu shot. i feel i would be selfish by not taking this Covid shot .
I took the first Moderna, had absolutely no reaction.
My business pard took it, was sick in the bed for a full day, chills, aches, fever. He says he's a "hyper-responder", has reactions to lots of stuff. I told him they say the second can be worse than the first, was he gonna take the second. He said yes.
COVID kills, never heard of the vaccine killing anyone. They're now saying 95% protection for up to a year.
My brother is in the hospital with COVID, on O2, but not in ICU. Weird disease.
A reason many people are so afraid of it is because it contains nanoparticles. They've heard on the web that it contains tracking devices and immediately Star Trek and the Borg enter their minds. They think a nanoparticle is some kind of tracking device, a mini machine. They've watched Seven of Nine a hundred times referring to those nano devices in the blood. They don't know that nano is nothing more than a unit of measurement, 1 billionth. Our bodies are full of nano sized things. Every cell has them. That part is nothing more than paranoia and lack of knowledge.
There is a more real thing that could happen. Whether it does remains to be seen. It's possible that Biden & Co. could require the vaccine for anyone receiving any government benefits...like social security and medicare. If it comes to that, they might have the power to force us older people into either compliance or poverty.
My son is a reg. nurse in Seattle. He got it, like it or not. He had no side affects so far. He said it's great to be back to work full time. A lot of his work recently has been doing triage from home, however that works.
But i turned down my chance to get it because i had the plague earlier.
You know those folks that said that if you had it the antibodies would not last more than a few months.
Well now they are saying a year from the plague but the shot don't last as long.
Just how many of these shots are you going to get in a year?
This^^^ even as my wife and I are at the 'one year' threshold of having had it. I came across a bottle of Elderberry supplement in our cabinet this week and realized it had been almost exactly one year since we had had the 'flu' that wouldn't go away.
Yep.Being over 75, I am signed up already. I have a chronic lung problem .It would not turn out good for me if I got infected with Covid.Even a common cold takes me 4-5 months to get over
I suppose I'll get it someday. If my doctor thinks it appropriate; because right now my excuse will be that I'd like to consult my personal physician first; versus listening to a bunch of fear mongering bull chit artists who delight in threatening people.
They have no idea how long antibodys last either natural or from the vaccine as this virus has not been studied for very long outside of China. The western medical world has only known of it since about feb or mar
No reason to believe it won’t behave like most other similar viruses which would put it right around a a year to 18 months. I base this off I from my sister in law who works in research in pharma and is currently working in covid albeit on the testing side.
One in one hundred have experienced side effects acknowledged by the drug makers. In reality many have died within 48 hours, and many more experience horrible side effects.
Do you have a source for that? Specifically the " many have died within 48 hours" part.
Nope not taking it. 55 yrs old I had Covid back in October as did my Wife. Like the flu nothing special or bad about it. Although my Wife did have double pneumonia that lasted for about 6 weeks after, She was never hospitalized. We lost a lady that I went to Church with to Covid. About my age but she had MANY health issues as well as being heavy.
And buy into the Pharma/Government revolving door of corruption? And validate the economic disaster imposed on our brothers and sisters in this country? Over a mild illness??
Not even a fraction of a chance.
2 more cents: This one isn't mandatory (yet), but all mandatory vaccines are the involuntary penetration of a person's body AKA rape.
Yes as a matter of fact scheduled for Monday. I’m lucky to have a well known lung doctor at Methodist hospital. He recommended I take the shot. I prefer his advice to the web. Hasbeen
The long answer involves several things, including vaccine makers being completely shielded legally from the negative effects of their products. Would you buy a truck if you were forced to pay if anything went wrong because of it? Would you hire a doctor that you couldn't sue for malpractice? Would you eat at a restaurant that was exempted from penalty if it didn't meet health department standards? Would you hire a contractor that was exempted from any legal action if his work was shoddy?
Maybe you should spit out the cool aid and propaganda....... reconsider that even you can be deceived.
Matthew 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
Nope not taking it. 55 yrs old I had Covid back in October as did my Wife. Like the flu nothing special or bad about it. Although my Wife did have double pneumonia that lasted for about 6 weeks after, She was never hospitalized. We lost a lady that I went to Church with to Covid. About my age but she had MANY health issues as well as being heavy.
I am 68, 69 next month. I had the crud along with the wife, hit her pretty hard about 3 weeks. I was down for about a week. So no I won’t take it unless forced too. The politicians are just trying to see which will kill more, the vaccine or the virus.
Maybe you should spit out the cool aid and propaganda....... reconsider that even you can be deceived.
Matthew 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
Jesus
Stop stating facts about Bill Gates and his family. People hate facts.
The Gates Foundation at Event 201, in the fall of 2019, laying out how a coronavirus pandemic would be dealt with. And then magically, not two months later, there was a coronavirus pandemic, and all of the "global warming" horseshit regulation of society they couldn't pass across Europe and the US and the rest of the 1st World is now being handily accepted as "covid" restrictions and planning.
Nope not taking it. 55 yrs old I had Covid back in October as did my Wife. Like the flu nothing special or bad about it. Although my Wife did have double pneumonia that lasted for about 6 weeks after, She was never hospitalized. We lost a lady that I went to Church with to Covid. About my age but she had MANY health issues as well as being heavy.
I am 68, 69 next month. I had the crud along with the wife, hit her pretty hard about 3 weeks. I was down for about a week. So no I won’t take it unless forced too. The politicians are just trying to see which will kill more, the vaccine or the virus.
If you already caught "the crud", what in all fool hell could you possibly gain from a vaccine?
I understand all the rhetoric, conspiracy chatter, and the lack of trust throughout Government. A financial consultant I know said, I trust Trump and God, not necessarily in that order.
Folks, I do not believe our President would have misguided us, and lots of folks are doing fine who have taken it. We watched a person here in LA who was about to be sworn in to Congress at age 41 or 42, no known health risks, DIE recently from Covid.
Make your choices......as they say. But do you REALLY want to gamble with your life, or the life of those around you? Not going to engage in a debate, just putting my .02 here. Mom is in the 1B category and getting hers today. If I had great concerns I would not support it. But like many things in life......
Risks vs Benefit.
What has killed more people? The Vaccine or Covid? Seek advice from your Medical Doctor, and pray for guidance.
All the Best whichever way folks decide, it is a personal decision.
I took the first Moderna, had absolutely no reaction.
My business pard took it, was sick in the bed for a full day, chills, aches, fever. He says he's a "hyper-responder", has reactions to lots of stuff. I told him they say the second can be worse than the first, was he gonna take the second. He said yes.
COVID kills, never heard of the vaccine killing anyone. They're now saying 95% protection for up to a year.
My brother is in the hospital with COVID, on O2, but not in ICU. Weird disease.
DF
DF, best of luck. What town is he in? Sounds like he's stable, Prayers up! Good post.
Know over 100 who've had it. No problems. Second one cN make you kinda sick, feverish, etc. for 12-48 hrs. I'm hearing that reaction is worse in those who've had covid +. Makes sense.
Maybe you should spit out the cool aid and propaganda....... reconsider that even you can be deceived.
Matthew 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
Jesus
Stop stating facts about Bill Gates and his family. People hate facts.
The Gates Foundation at Event 201, in the fall of 2019, laying out how a coronavirus pandemic would be dealt with. And then magically, not two months later, there was a coronavirus pandemic, and all of the "global warming" horseshit regulation of society they couldn't pass across Europe and the US and the rest of the 1st World is now being handily accepted as "covid" restrictions and planning.
Correct on all points. The whole plan of their's is going so smoothly and so rapidly because of near universal compliance of the industrialized nations. The political, propaganda, and pharmaceutical machines are full speed ahead. This information is not hidden in classified documents. It's been widely available for each and every member here to see that exactly what you said is true.
Here's another video on the history of Gates and the topic at hand.
Nope not taking it. 55 yrs old I had Covid back in October as did my Wife. Like the flu nothing special or bad about it. Although my Wife did have double pneumonia that lasted for about 6 weeks after, She was never hospitalized. We lost a lady that I went to Church with to Covid. About my age but she had MANY health issues as well as being heavy.
I am 68, 69 next month. I had the crud along with the wife, hit her pretty hard about 3 weeks. I was down for about a week. So no I won’t take it unless forced too. The politicians are just trying to see which will kill more, the vaccine or the virus.
If you already caught "the crud", what in all fool hell could you possibly gain from a vaccine?
Because Biden said he might withhold SS payments and Medicare plus other nasty things if I didn’t. Like I said forced.
You better believe I'll get it as soon as I can. I just got my pneumonia shot at the DR's office last week. I'm getting the shingles shot @ 1st of March also. I firmly believe that "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
Nope not taking it. 55 yrs old I had Covid back in October as did my Wife. Like the flu nothing special or bad about it. Although my Wife did have double pneumonia that lasted for about 6 weeks after, She was never hospitalized. We lost a lady that I went to Church with to Covid. About my age but she had MANY health issues as well as being heavy.
I am 68, 69 next month. I had the crud along with the wife, hit her pretty hard about 3 weeks. I was down for about a week. So no I won’t take it unless forced too. The politicians are just trying to see which will kill more, the vaccine or the virus.
If you already caught "the crud", what in all fool hell could you possibly gain from a vaccine?
Because Biden said he might withhold SS payments and Medicare plus other nasty things if I didn’t. Like I said forced.
Let's think about this for a moment...if you already had some virus, and you recovered from it, your body would have immunity to it. A vaccination at that point would not only be superfluous, but would subject you to possible harm. If you ask ANY doctor if he or she would perform a procedure for which there is zero chance of benefit, but would have the usual risks of harm, what do you imagine that doctor would say?
So if the vaccine policy goes against the ethics and legalities of medical practitioners, how could that policy possibly be considered beneficent? And you would do it anyway?
My wife who is a Hospital Admin and my son who is a BSN/RN have both had the first shot and a week ago the second shot. My wife 55 had no issues with first shot and a day of chills following the second one, other than that she was fine. My son 23 had no issues with either vaccine. I will take the vaccine when it becomes available to me.
Went over an hour early to get in line for a drive through shot this morning-- and the line was already backed up through traffic jams over a mile long. Extricated myself and went home. Over 75 with weak lungs, yep, I will take the odds that the disease for me would be worse than the vaccine.
Had a kick azz cold/ flu in aug/ early sept. Just like millions of others. Felt like crap for about a week at the house. Loaded up on the vitamins and zinc. Ate em like a pez dispenser . They gummy cranberry ones from wally world were pretty good actually.
If I get the schitt again I will buy the pet deworner schit that people say works and some more of those gummies.
Pizzed me off I spent 12 bucks for 4 designer superduper ice creams cones 1 day to prove to myself I had actually lost my sense of taste.
Not gonna get injected with a RNA shot that has to be stored at minus whatever temp and no long term test have been done on. Throw in joey when he goes on the welcome back china tour and them gifting a vaccine they " recently developed".
Thought about it back in april / may when they was talking about ramping up and making it.
No thanks now...
You all in risk groups go ahead and take it.
Too much international shady schit involved in this low level persistent bio wpn the bucketheads engineered in their wuhan lab.
Fughing bucketheads Fugging up everyfuggingthing... Along with their globalist minions....
Wife and I got our first round of the vaccine yesterday. Our local health dept. figured out how to do it, serving hundreds of people with a minimum of fuss and confusion. Took an hour, start to finish, and for me, no aftereffects at all. They will notify us in 28 days to show up for the second shot, and then we start making plans to resume our lives in a more normal way.
Abslodamtootly.!!......My wife and I are in our 70's and have health issues. The safety studies post vaccination exceeded those for most vaccines. Striking ignorance of how rigorous these Phase Three studies were performed by some. We would like to get the J&J vaccine when approved; it will be a game changer.
I never understood why when they told you to stand still for the air shots some guys felt the need to move.
Same with the tear gas and puke chambers,if 'Ya payed attention everything went much better...But not everyone does..As to these shots,I don't see a reason not to and a lot of reasons to....The wife won't take it..lol
Not me, not a chance. And for a number of well thought out reasons.
This vaccine falls under the “experimental” medicine category; in that it never went through normal process of approval. Different companies in different parts of the globe, all with their own special sauce. And all have complete legal immunity. No thanks! Most all other vaccines in the past were all the same formula, and most by the same company.
From what I have read about legal mandates for this vaccine, for now that category of “experimental” may just keep different entities from making you do it- for now. Imagine in any other time anyone making you get a shot of something into your body that was labeled “experimental medicine”. That is the definition of being a “guinea pig”.
There are a number of nurses from the local (2) hospitals that I take care of in my office ( healthcare practice) that were offered the shot- which was not required by the hospital; even though the flu shot is required yearly. Think about that. Some took it, most of the ones I talked to were going to wait. One of them told me ( who did not get the shot) that a friend of hers that did get it, almost pulled out at the last minute after reading the long waiver forms before taking it. The one she said gave her friend the most pause was the one that clearly stated there would be no liability for any long term effects in the future. She almost stopped then, but just said, what the hell, I will just get it. The pharma companies were all paid by the govt. ahead of time for something that is a no risk deal for them. We all paid for that chit!
Ironically there was an article in our local paper this week on Monday that had the headline “Vaccine rollout hits snag as health workers balk at shots”. In the article there was a quote from a 42 year old cardio thoracic surgeon from Portland area by the name of Stephen Noble ( obviously not some uneducated idiot when it comes to healthcare).
His exact quote was- “I don’t think anyone wants to be a guinea pig”. He is postponing getting vaccinated. He then said- “ At the end of the day, as a man of science, I just want to see what the data shows. And give me the full data”
To me that is smart and thinking for yourself. Not everyone that is passing on this shot is doing so because of being uneducated, or for political, or other moral reasons. Some are using their god given brain and thinking for themselves and then making an informed educated decision. Either way, that is what we should always do. And we should have free will in doing so!
If I had been going to take the vaccine I wouldn't after reading this. Some of the stupidest members of the 'fire that aren't blatant trolls are fully on-board. That should be enough to give anybody considering it, pause.
My wife and I had the covid and nearly died of it, the issue was in doubt for several days, sickest either of us has ever been in our lives. We are going to do whatever it takes to lessen the likelihood of getting it again and have already taken the first shot.
Amazing how this board seems to attract flocks of blithering idiots.
In a month or 2 I have to get a fresh valve and vein work on my leg,, I'm guessing a shot will be required for these. We have had 2 planes (pilots) land here with mail and supplies in the last 3 1/2 month's,, not much exposure.
I took the first Moderna, had absolutely no reaction.
My business pard took it, was sick in the bed for a full day, chills, aches, fever. He says he's a "hyper-responder", has reactions to lots of stuff. I told him they say the second can be worse than the first, was he gonna take the second. He said yes.
COVID kills, never heard of the vaccine killing anyone. They're now saying 95% protection for up to a year.
My brother is in the hospital with COVID, on O2, but not in ICU. Weird disease.
DF
DF, best of luck. What town is he in? Sounds like he's stable, Prayers up! Good post.
A-Town as my kids refer to Alexandria.
He's scheduled to come home soon, but will be on oxygen.
Is an overabundance of trust in all things big govt and big pharma the side effect of old age???
Isn't anyone here a Bible reading Christian? There's already a call in this thread for this poison to be forced on everyone, by using more govt economic tyranny. These are the same authoritarians as the communists. These are the same as those who eventually will be agreeing with the Antichrist and Beast to require it......right here on THIS board!
You all know that Bill Gates is the evil mastermind behind this "pandemic" and the vaccine "final solution" don't you?
His parents were organizers of the modern world wide eugenics movement.
Bill Gates publicly announced many times his desire to reduce the world population.
My next question is WHY do you trust such people with your lives and the lives of your families?
Maybe you should spit out the cool aid and propaganda....... reconsider that even you can be deceived.
Matthew 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
Dirtfarmer, Hope your brother recovers soon. My son had Covid, was seriously ill for three weeks, and is still having oxygen level problems months later. My ex-FIL just recently died from Covid. When the disease touches your family, it all of a sudden becomes very real, and personal. I am so thankful to the Trump administration for instituting Operation Warp Speed, which facilitated the development of vaccines in record time to get us out of this pandemic. Can't wait to get the second shot, and then feel much better about travel, being around people again, and free from a lot of worry.
Bill Gates predicted that a pandemic would emerge in an article I found on weforum.org from September 2017. I wish I knew how to post it here. "greatest immediate threat to humanity" is how he described it. He is also known to believe that population excess is a huge threat (I agree). Right on cue the "pandemic" showed up, albeit a mild one that seems to primarily prey on the most expendable members of society. I am not accusing Bill of any complicity in this but it does seem he is positioned to profit mightily from it. With his alarm at the population numbers it causes me to wonder why he would involve himself in arresting the spread. I don't much believe he is altruistic. Another thing I've noticed in this thread is the chronically ill folks on here hellbent on squeezing a few more years out of a seriously disabled existence. In a way that is kind of selfish. We happen to be the most expensive and least needed members of society. Now I'm not going to off myself, but I have the beginnings of right side heart failure and I've never had a flu shot or pneumonia shot and not going to take this one. The only problems I exhibit now is inability to climb hills without resting. I don't care to live until I'm an invalid or a nursing home patient. In 2 more years I'll be 70 and that's is about all you can expect.
I am, only one in a hundred have experienced any side effects. My daughter, a nurse has taken, no problems.
I will when available. My wife got it last week. My two nurse sisters and several nurse friends have gotten it. A couple of them got pretty sick for a day afterwards but nothing terrible. If taking the vaccine means we can re-open the country then sign me up!
AKWolverine: If you keep reading his posts, you're gonna need to ask Rick Bin to increase the bandwidth on this site to handle the number of times you'll have to post that meme.
My wife and I had the covid and nearly died of it, the issue was in doubt for several days, sickest either of us has ever been in our lives. We are going to do whatever it takes to lessen the likelihood of getting it again and have already taken the first shot.
Amazing how this board seems to attract flocks of blithering idiots.
We had it and it was like a light flu, for the most part. Glad you pulled through. I'll wait and see how it plays out for others. I have anti-bodies for now. Could be that all are not blithering idiots just because we don't get the vaccine because you and your wife were sick. Just a thought.
I am, only one in a hundred have experienced any side effects. My daughter, a nurse has taken, no problems.
Good for you, but I am NOT in the market. Getting the vaccine does no real good, and it will be used as just another control mechanism by the state and businesses invested in government lies and fear.
LOL. Indeed. We have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.
Translation?
Ever read Orwell's 1984?
Yes but it was well before 1984 so I'll still need a translation......
It means that reality doesn't have ever-changing rules, and if the rules of your "reality" are ever-changing, it ain't reality. But then, if you read the "research" in the "news", we've always been at war with Eastasia. Or wait....we've never been at war with Eastasia.
As a side note, how many times did you get chicken pox before you had "immunity"? Just curious.
well, age is probably too simplistic. If you're young, in good health, planning to have kids, don't take it, at least until more is known about it, or them i guess. by the same token if you're younger, but past having kids, and have a history of serious health issues, heart, pulmonary, diabetes, obesity, fill in the blank, you should probably consider taking it.
Add in other health factors, it changes the issues. For example, if in your 60's and have a history of good health, not taking rx's every day, never had pneumonia, maybe well-conditioned through diet and exercise, then that tells me it's not worth the bother, and possible gremlins known or unknown. Add in some risk factors, then take it.
Not sure about how a cancer dx plays into this, and that is a concern for me. the immune system is a consideration, so maybe at some time they will address this, who knows. anyway, that's my take
i've been enjoying tobacco pipe smoking for a few years now, partake occasionally, no addiction going on. if it kills me in 10 - 15 years that's timed just about right, i reckon
LOL. Indeed. We have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.
Translation?
Ever read Orwell's 1984?
Yes but it was well before 1984 so I'll still need a translation......
It means that reality doesn't have ever-changing rules, and if the rules of your "reality" are ever-changing, it ain't reality. But then, if you read the "research" in the "news", we've always been at war with Eastasia. Or wait....we've never been at war with Eastasia.
As a side note, how many times did you get chicken pox before you had "immunity"? Just curious.
There are a few different kinds of vaccines and they work through different mechanisms. The longevity of immunity varies all over the map, depending on the vaccine.
Comparing chicken pox to the coronavirus is apples and oranges. You can look it up. Or, just keep quoting works of fiction, that seems highly relevant.
Lets see a disease that has a 99.96% survival rate.....not a remote possibility
Also include the strange cure that it had against common influenza. This past year, the flu has been a thing of the past. 🤔
If they wouldn't have killed those helpless people with ventilator tubes and high psi air that popped lungs, the chance of survival would have been much higher.
I am over 65 have lung problems as well as other medical problems and nothing they can say or do will make me believe that for my existence i will need to get it.
As for no flying I am ok with that as i have not flown ever since 2004.
What i have done is let my Kids and their spouses that i was proud of them and the grandkids the same.
I have made peace with the fact that one day i will be called away and do not fear it.
My wife knows how much i care for her and while they will be hurt i hope that they will remember me for the way i tried to do the right thing all my life.
As a bonus when my call comes i know that i will not be in pain anymore.
One thing i tell them is while i don't fear that day i am not going to run out in front of a truck or anything like that.
Not sure about how a cancer dx plays into this, and that is a concern for me. the immune system is a consideration, so maybe at some time they will address this, who knows. anyway, that's my take
i've been enjoying tobacco pipe smoking for a few years now, partake occasionally, no addiction going on. if it kills me in 10 - 15 years that's timed just about right, i reckon
Sounds to me like you're in pretty good health since you are active, off drugs and everything is working. One concern of yours is cancer. I just got off the phone with a friend just a little bit ago. . She makes sure that she gets all of the shots thinking that they wiould enhance her health. She just floored me. Told me she has a stage 4 cancer. Then I saw this video that you might be interested in. Cancer in vaccines https://www.brighteon.com/6056215415001
Why is it that so many of us just want to be left alone but there are many that won't abide by that? I watched my mother kill herself with prescription drugs. I have a strong disdain for them.
Here in So Cal there appears to be a bit of nepotism as far as any vaccine roll out. Now it's "front line Medical workers" and their elderly parents, friends. in laws.
I probably wouldn't be so hesitant to take the vaccine if the big social media sites hadn't been censoring all discussion of COVID.
You have to wonder why the biggest information brokers on the planet refuse to allow any discussion of COVID that deviates from the official narrative.
Let's think about this for a moment...if you already had some virus, and you recovered from it, your body would have immunity to it
For a period of months, is what the research says.
Lolol...well if that’s what the research says it must be true especially considering how long they’ve had to study it. 😂
It must be way different than all the other viruses. Who knew that physiologically the Covid antigens are so fragile? If that’s the case it doesn’t bode well for the vaccine. 😉. If the “research” is correct (highly unlikely) then those that are vaccinated will need booster shots every few months. 😂
It’s funny seeing those that had Covid fighting to be first in line for the vaccine. I guess science and reality is suspended for the Kung Flu. TFF
Tried again to take the shot without success. This time I decided to wait till the line thinned a bit rather than go in at 3:00 AM to get in line for a drive through shot that started at 9 AM. All closed a half mile out when I went at 10. The traffic cop said that so many people were in line that they closed it off by 6:00 AM. I emailed the clinic to thank them for their good intentions but that the drive through is a disaster. I ain't going down there again. There has to be a better way. This drive through is limited to people over 70, and supposedly only from our small town, though I think there are a lot coming from elsewhere.
My math from published figures is that if I get covid at my age with my ailments, I have about 8% chance of dying. That's Russian roulette with a 12 cylinder, but only if and when I get the virus.. I expect to get it sooner or later. Am no more worried about it than I worry about crossing a street, but want to be prudent. If I were younger and healthier, like my son who says no way is he taking the shot, I'd wait a year or two at least to see what happens to the early guinea pigs.
Me and my wife took our first Moderna doses Thursday. By Friday our arms felt like they had rotted and were falling off. Today feels much better.
My wife's 62 year old co-worker just passed away yesterday, after contracting the chicom flu two weeks ago. They had him on a ventilator but he kept going down hill. He basically suffocated. He was Type 2 diabetic. She is devastated and scared out of her mind. Paranoid about me catching it.
I probably wouldn't be so hesitant to take the vaccine if the big social media sites hadn't been censoring all discussion of COVID.
You have to wonder why the biggest information brokers on the planet refuse to allow any discussion of COVID that deviates from the official narrative.
Wife is a doc and will be getting her 2nd shot Tuesday.... she had me signed up with the health department before I knew they were taking "reservations". Age is 65 and the NC Governor ordered the release of more vaccine so my age group will start getting the shots sooner than later.
local reports are that plenty of nursing home patients are getting Covid and recovering but that some local folks that "should" have gotten over it reasonably quickly are dying. Local high school teacher in her mid 30s died earlier this week. The schools had been in person 2 days for 1/2 of students and then the other 2 days for the rest....I guess day 5 was major cleaning.
They will now be going back to online only until maybe some time next Month.
Local docs working in a small town hospital have experience getting people onto ventilators but in the past they would ship those patients out to bigger hospitals ASAP. Apparently it's a complex thing to keep someone on a ventilator longer term. The wait has gotten longer to find a bed ready to do that.
I've upped my hand washing this week.
Found a picture.... looks like she was overweight but still mid 30's .....
I took mine Wednesday afternoon, and by Thursday my arm was hurting like crazy, and I felt a little funky. Friday was about the same, but by yesterday, everything was fine. Wife had a slightly sore arm for maybe a day, and that was it. I had no reservations about taking it, and will be glad to take shot number two.
No thanks. 48 and healthy. Im more scared of being abducted by aliens than the fauxdemic. You idiots have been coerced by fear, into doing something stupid. You opine on here 24/7 about the deep state and then inject their stupid juice and thank them for it. WTF is wrong with this picture?
No, I'm not planning on getting the vaccine. Both of my daughters recommend against the vaccine. Not enough known at this time about future complications. One of them is a MD, other is a CRNA.
I've already had C-19. I was blessed in December with C-19 and double pneumonia. This wasn't fun, it put me in the Hospital. I was pretty sick. My wife, daughter, son in law and my grandson had it. (C-19) They had flu like symptoms that lasted 3-4 days. When I started to feel like I was getting sick, I thought I would be better in a few days. A few days passed, I wasn't getting better, I was headed down the drain. My wife took me to Urgent care, they called an Ambulance for me. I went to the Hospital, I stayed there for 3.5 days. I did what they said. I got better, and got to go home early. After about three weeks of home care, I was feeling better. Still not 100%, getting close.
Everyone in my office got it this week but me. I figure I've made it a year already, why get jabbed now? An experimental vaccine seems more dangerous than covid. There is an old school type vaccine coming out this spring if you want to wait.
No, I'm not planning on getting the vaccine. Both of my daughters recommend against the vaccine. Not enough known at this time about future complications. One of them is a MD, other is a CRNA.
They tried developing this sort of vaccine during SARS 1 (78% identical to SARS 2, i.e., COVID19) in 2008. Animal studies, however, proved that it wasn't safe, so it never went to market. This time, they skipped the animal studies entirely, and went right to mass vaccinations of the general population. You'd have to be an idiot to get this vaccine.
No, I'm not planning on getting the vaccine. Both of my daughters recommend against the vaccine. Not enough known at this time about future complications. One of them is a MD, other is a CRNA.
They tried developing this sort of vaccine during SARS 1 (78% identical to SARS 2, i.e., COVID19) in 2008. Animal studies, however, proved that it wasn't safe, so it never went to market. This time, they skipped the animal studies entirely, and went right to mass vaccinations of the general population. You'd have to be an idiot to get this vaccine.
Do you know what long term effects it had on the animals.
May get one of the Adnenovirus vector vaccines (AstraZeneca/J&J) when available, since this technology has been around awhile and has also been through the normal approval process (Merck's Ebola vaccine).
They can keep the mRNA vaccines, as you are truly the guinea pig. All my opinion, of course.
No, I'm not planning on getting the vaccine. Both of my daughters recommend against the vaccine. Not enough known at this time about future complications. One of them is a MD, other is a CRNA.
They tried developing this sort of vaccine during SARS 1 (78% identical to SARS 2, i.e., COVID19) in 2008. Animal studies, however, proved that it wasn't safe, so it never went to market. This time, they skipped the animal studies entirely, and went right to mass vaccinations of the general population. You'd have to be an idiot to get this vaccine.
Do you know what long term effects it had on the animals.
I cannot recall the specifics, but they were bad enough to cause them to abandon the mRNA approach to vaccinating against Coronaviruses.
I don't know if there are any vaccines that aren't tainted. Here's a article that not only explains the involvement of aborted fetal cells, but also the DNA damage that some vaccines, such as the MMR, cause.
Funny thing, when I was in hospital with COVID, I was the ONLY one in the ward that had been vaxed and boosted. Given my other issues Dr said i would have dies without vax.
Wonder if De-Flaggot also refused polio and all other childhood immunizations.
As he never served all the shots we got to go to war were no issue to him.
20 posts a day ? He's safe as he never leaves the basement.
My uncle, Vietnam vet chopper pilot, was pressured by the VA into getting the first 2 shots. Being older, he like many got suckered by the hysteria. After the second shot he started having serious heart issues. 70 some year old man never had a heart issue in his life.
His son, my cousin (for the retards), texted me the other day and asked me to call his dad. Said he’s getting a lot of pressure from the va to get the boosters.
My uncle and I are very close. I told him to jam a pencil that cûnts eye socket the next time they brought it up. He laughed. I told him I’m serious. Hat bitch is trying to kill you.
Nope I have heard of at least 9 that were fully vaccinated or at least vaccinated that have "tested positive" and are or were sick in the last couple weeks. I don't know if you guys are aware that the CDC changed the definition of vaccine from making one immune to helping to boost your ability to fight a disease. My believe is that you never get complete immunity like those of us that have had it "natural imunity ". VIruses are prone to mutate though. My description isn't verbatim but you can look it up to see the exact wording.
Funny thing, when I was in hospital with COVID, I was the ONLY one in the ward that had been vaxed and boosted. Given my other issues Dr said i would have dies without vax.
Wonder if De-Flaggot also refused polio and all other childhood immunizations.
As he never served all the shots we got to go to war were no issue to him.
20 posts a day ? He's safe as he never leaves the basement.
And compare the glee in getting an unavailable item only special folks were able to get, against Tucker Carlson's show last week concerning things we are learning.
The most ironic are current death rates vaxxed vs unvaxxed.
Or that total deaths in Europe are higher this year than the last two? Easy to jump to conclusions on that one, but it needs studied.
The best headscratcher? Why are the Lefties suddenly calling it Trump's vaccine? They were the ones forcing it into people a year ago.
Funny thing, when I was in hospital with COVID, I was the ONLY one in the ward that had been vaxed and boosted. Given my other issues Dr said i would have dies without vax.
Wonder if De-Flaggot also refused polio and all other childhood immunizations.
As he never served all the shots we got to go to war were no issue to him.
20 posts a day ? He's safe as he never leaves the basement.
Ummmmmm Polio and all other childhood immunizations were tested for YEARS and VETTED before the public was allowed to have them. How you boomers forget that and rationalize the clot shot is beyond me. When I was in the hospital with Covid I was the ONLY one there (not vaccinated by something that isn't actually a vaccination).
Flave did serve in the military you dumb azz.
You really should know what you are talking about before you open your pie hole.
Funny thing, when I was in hospital with COVID, I was the ONLY one in the ward that had been vaxed and boosted. Given my other issues Dr said i would have dies without vax.
Wonder if De-Flaggot also refused polio and all other childhood immunizations.
As he never served all the shots we got to go to war were no issue to him.
20 posts a day ? He's safe as he never leaves the basement.
Getting injected with anything that jacks around with your DNA is insane. That’s not a vaccine, it’s genetic poison. And yeah the mRNA pharmaceutical moonshine does that.
Friggin murderers all that fostered this global assault on humanity. Lots of criminals that will never face a jury. Many many need to be dead particularly Xi, Fausi, Biden & his puppet masters. Crimes against humanity. People have burned for much less.
Funny thing, when I was in hospital with COVID, I was the ONLY one in the ward that had been vaxed and boosted. Given my other issues Dr said i would have dies without vax.
Wonder if De-Flaggot also refused polio and all other childhood immunizations.
As he never served all the shots we got to go to war were no issue to him.
20 posts a day ? He's safe as he never leaves the basement.
Sure are a lot of people who trust the gov't, even after sheltering big pharma from any and all liability responsibilities when it all goes wrong. Trusting souls indeed.
I bet many jab'eez think they saved us pure-bloods, they thought the shot made them immune.
99.8% survival rate OMG OMG we're all gonna die.
p.s. someone here posted the link of bill gates talking about the pandemic coming in 2017. There was even a video of him saying it. It came from wuhan china and was done for a reason. If you don't know why by now you never will.
Funny thing, when I was in hospital with COVID, I was the ONLY one in the ward that had been vaxed and boosted. Given my other issues Dr said i would have dies without vax.
Wonder if De-Flaggot also refused polio and all other childhood immunizations.
As he never served all the shots we got to go to war were no issue to him.
20 posts a day ? He's safe as he never leaves the basement.
You might want to call the local police, Bricktop is on the way.......
And I suppose quite possibly had my late wife taken the Ivermectin as I did she would be alive today. But she refused it.
Would have Could have Should have
Regardless, I doubt any shot, vaccine, or snake oil would have helped her in her preexisting condition. She was a very sick person.
But what do I know???
It wasn't your decision. I am very sorry for your loss.
Thank you
She was very tired of it all.
And she absolutely hated Brandon. 😉
So many lies told and so many deaths resulted. My sister had the full up version last summer at 82 years old, cigarette smoker and overweight. Followed the FLCCC Guidelines with Ivermectin, vitamins and supplements. Jan 2022 had delta variant and repeated treatment. Still alive and hating Biden. An aunt only a year or two younger was hospitalized and denied FLCCC treatment protocol. Would have violated hospital policy. Was told she could only receive remdesivir. She declined. Then with her laying there talking with the quacks she was told she needed mechanical ventilation. Declined again. She was also overweight and a smoker. Died in the hospital. Murdered by a hospital administration that did as they were told by our alphabet medical governance and doctors that failed their oath.
Very sorry for your loss. I hope and pray the lives lost will forever dim our view of government control.
I had a near collision with death this summer after a covid infection. The Rona didn't get me but the crazy reaction it caused in my immune system almost did.
Came close to not being here, as I had almost no platelets and would have bled out internally.
Hematologist came by to talk and I got ready to be lectured about the vaccine I refused.
But when it came up in conversation he shrugged and said basically, as far as he could tell, it didn't seem to matter and that I would have had the reaction to the vaccine or the virus either way.
He admitted openly that it's been a schit show and no one really has a handle on the facts.
Kind of refreshing, really.
And no, I am not getting the "vaccine" money maker. [bleep] those commie liars and their cult.
And I suppose quite possibly had my late wife taken the Ivermectin as I did she would be alive today. But she refused it.
Would have Could have Should have
Regardless, I doubt any shot, vaccine, or snake oil would have helped her in her preexisting condition. She was a very sick person.
But what do I know???
My condolences, and I can truly sympathize. My wife of 18 years passed away last December. Massive heart attack. We both thought she was dead in 2015 from stage IV cancer. Instead, she had the surgery, told them to stuff their chemo halfway through, and lived another 6.5 years. Those years were a blessing I'll always be very grateful for. The cardiac arrest was caused by blood clots in her lungs, they said, maybe caused by the cancer. Or maybe--which they didn't say--caused by the 4 rounds of chemo she underwent. Maybe both.
She, too, was tired of it all, especially the "health care system." She quit going for scans and checkups after they refused to remove the chemo port. Their "treatment" made her sicker than the cancer did, and she always kept that in mind. That and the bowls of candy at the infusion center. Anyone who has studied cancer even a little understands what a disgusting irony that is.
It's an industry. There's no incentive to cure anyone or to prevent any illness, only to maximize profits by milking insurance companies--and failing that your personal resources--for everything they can get. The "vaccine" is no different, is in fact the greatest corporate profit generator--at taxpayer expense--in history. And the narrative behind the push has always been and still remains way too frantic, shrill, and scripted to be anything other than fear-porn propaganda with an insidious agenda behind it. What the actual agenda really is remains to be seen. What we can safely say, what is glaringly obvious in fact, is that the agenda is evil, and has nothing to do with the health and well being of American citizens.
Here it is, August. Of 2022. I remain un-jabbed and healthy. So not only no, but f u c k no!
I never did fear what some talking head told me to fear and ain't about to start now.
The only bandwagon I'm willing to jump on is Nuremburg 2.0.
No, I'm not planning on getting the vaccine. Both of my daughters recommend against the vaccine. Not enough known at this time about future complications. One of them is a MD, other is a CRNA.
They tried developing this sort of vaccine during SARS 1 (78% identical to SARS 2, i.e., COVID19) in 2008. Animal studies, however, proved that it wasn't safe, so it never went to market. This time, they skipped the animal studies entirely, and went right to mass vaccinations of the general population. You'd have to be an idiot to get this vaccine.
Do you know what long term effects it had on the animals.
I cannot recall the specifics, but they were bad enough to cause them to abandon the mRNA approach to vaccinating against Coronaviruses.
I refuse to let them jab me with that "so-called" vaccine. I believe it isn't needed and, in fact, it is actually dangerous! There are far too many athletes and other people dropping dead from heart issues. More so than normal and I believe that trend will sadly continue due to the very unnecessary and pushed vaccine.
I will not be taking the vaccine and it will likely cost me a Canadian Moose hunt next fall. Canada still has their vaccine passport requirement and I'm not taking it.
My son has a wolf hunt that the guide offered him for free cause he didn't get an opportunity last time we were there. I was going to go with. It's a no go for us also. Sucks
The virus is a weird thing. Even if one just considers the emergence of a new persistent threat to the human population in the order of a cold, or flu. And there are a lot of other ways in which it is odd, it is mainstream to consider it is lab leaked, and beyond. A lab leak has been confirmed as a possibility by even the WHO. I think they said it was not their number one possibility, but they could not rule it out.
And the "product" is also very weird. A science fiction product that has been introduced in the most bizarre way imaginable.
What is not weird is how the virus kills you. It proceeds by normal means, that are susceptible to normal drugs and treatments. If they will let you have them.
The overall weirdness seems to cover up the fact that this is an assault on the human body we are well acquainted with. If you think in firearm terms there are all kinds of projectiles, and products from black powder, to flechettes, to PCP airbows. They are all capable of punching holes in bodies, and some are more space aged than other. But we know a lot about patching holes. If they come up with a laser gun of general utility, it will be weirder still, but the holes and burns will still be to some extent familiar. The Virus does things to people like dry pneumonia (I have heard it said). We know how to treat that. Etc...
People on here have gotten the shots to go on hunts and vacays.. Pleasure needs and money issues versus possibly putting their health and life on the line.....
It's not a vaccine, just because you change the definition of a vaccine doesnt make it one.
No, my wife is a nurse and also hasnt taken it even after being threatened by her employers. Once all the side effects start showing up in her coworkers and their patients, the pushing of the vax stopped in her office.
My wife hasn't had covid this entire time, if she has, she hasnt known it and has not tested positive for any antibodies yet.
This right here. I cant believe I just opened this thread and read a bunch of literal retards more than willing to put this poison in their bodies. I can not process the stupidity of some humans!
An aunt only a year or two younger was hospitalized and denied FLCCC treatment protocol. Would have violated hospital policy. Was told she could only receive remdesivir. She declined. Then with her laying there talking with the quacks she was told she needed mechanical ventilation. Declined again. She was also overweight and a smoker. Died in the hospital. Murdered by a hospital administration that did as they were told by our alphabet medical governance and doctors that failed their oath.
According to the Vaxxers, the hospital should have FORCED those "treatments" on her.
People are free to make their own decisions with this stuff, but I'm also free to call out your dumbasses. Millions of adverse affects including death, on the shots they have already rolled out. Shots that do not work mind you. Shots that do not stop transmission, or lessen the symptoms, ect ect. So a new one magically pops up that hasnt even finished human trials and yall are lining up ready to go. WTF!!
I guess we've all got a story to tell. I've known my Dr. for over 40 yrs. now, and we've become good close friends. The Man is simply a genius. He practices what he preaches and it works for him. We Steel head fish together in a very nice clean Running River with Fly Rods for Sport. A lot of conversation goes on there. I can't begin to start to tell all the stories, and factual lessons he has taught me as he's got about 10 yrs on me. He kept my Father in Law alive for many yrs. who had several ailments. Okay point made. He suggested my Family and I get the Vaccine, as we did. That's why I go to him, and ask his advice! He's been sending us his medical Journals,(copy) via email for yrs. Like he does his other 3000 patients, if you want it. Before his email so called program, we would ask for his discarded copies, and finally subscribed to the journals through him. My wife and I are avid Readers. Sometimes, I have to re read something, as I'm a diagnosed open read interpreter! Crazy! Anyway, he suggested the First Booster, and we got it. All of us just made a huge move from a couple States over, to our place, and got the Vid from the Movers, probably! we're All doing well, as Milder Symptoms, prevailed, compared to Most. We're all very active, ages 64, down to 36, and getting along like we had a bad cold! Achy, contested, a little sore,etc........................Like Reagan said "Trust but Verify". That's always been my motto. My cousin, 56 yrs. old, had it for 2 yrs, almost died on more than one occasion, the ventilator, the whole nine yards................... Would not get the Vaccine!!! His choice, no argument from Me! He's a few lbs. overweight like I am, and also active, but still 2 different people. He just went on permanent Disability, as he'll never be the same. Just a perspective comparison of a couple of people in the whole mix of things. Certainly no Medical trial by any Means. Two elderly cousins,(Born in Italy), in their 70's, wouldn't get the vax last yr., they both Died within a week.Their 4 kids, anti vaxers, in their 40's all got the vid trying to help the parents, but thankfully survived.Many of my Relatives from the old Country,(Italy), "they no believe", until they see or experience it. Do what's best for you and yours! No Criticism from me, I wish you all the best. Good Health, and God Bless!
The thing about drugs, any drugs, is not if you will get side effects, it's when you will get side effects. Take any drug (or vax) often enough and you will at some point experience adverse side effects.
By now anyone with any common sense knows COVID was just another flu strain. There's no telling the damage the so called vaccine - flu shot has done to the human immune system. My fear is the government used the vaccine to build a super flu. I'm not sure if the sheep or the wolves will be come on top.
Got the jab And two boosters, last one six months or so ago Jabs were at my long term doc and hunting partners advice Zero side effects from the jabs was zero, not even a sore shoulder Tested positive for covid two months ago, symptoms were non existent Did shots reduce severity, I have no idea I have three cousins (55/65 age range) dead while having covid, two were anti vaxers One of these three had other health issues, the other two, the anti vaxers, did not have other health issues Would the anti vaxer be alive if they’d have taken the jab, who knows
Should be leaving for a sheep hunt with my friends in NWT. Due to Canada's vax policy, I dropped out. My friends were all anti vax till the ability to travel hurt them. They took the shots.
I respect their choice and they respect mine. I will miss being with them and hope they have a great hunt. There are a few sheep in Alaska if I want one bad enough.
Another buddy took the jab cuz he didn't want to miss his Mexico trip. I respect peoples ability to choose. I am also surprised how little pressure or sacrifice it takes for some to cave in and compromise their values.
Got the jab And two boosters, last one six months or so ago Jabs were at my long term doc and hunting partners advice Zero side effects from the jabs was zero, not even a sore shoulder Tested positive for covid two months ago, symptoms were non existent Did shots reduce severity, I have no idea I have three cousins (55/65 age range) dead while having covid, two were anti vaxers One of these three had other health issues, the other two, the anti vaxers, did not have other health issues Would the anti vaxer be alive if they’d have taken the jab, who knows
People who take the jab are becoming more likely to catch the virus. You have no idea yet about any side effects
And I suppose quite possibly had my late wife taken the Ivermectin as I did she would be alive today. But she refused it.
Would have Could have Should have
Regardless, I doubt any shot, vaccine, or snake oil would have helped her in her preexisting condition. She was a very sick person.
But what do I know???
My condolences, and I can truly sympathize. My wife of 18 years passed away last December. Massive heart attack. We both thought she was dead in 2015 from stage IV cancer. Instead, she had the surgery, told them to stuff their chemo halfway through, and lived another 6.5 years. Those years were a blessing I'll always be very grateful for. The cardiac arrest was caused by blood clots in her lungs, they said, maybe caused by the cancer. Or maybe--which they didn't say--caused by the 4 rounds of chemo she underwent. Maybe both.
She, too, was tired of it all, especially the "health care system." She quit going for scans and checkups after they refused to remove the chemo port. Their "treatment" made her sicker than the cancer did, and she always kept that in mind. That and the bowls of candy at the infusion center. Anyone who has studied cancer even a little understands what a disgusting irony that is.
It's an industry. There's no incentive to cure anyone or to prevent any illness, only to maximize profits by milking insurance companies--and failing that your personal resources--for everything they can get. The "vaccine" is no different, is in fact the greatest corporate profit generator--at taxpayer expense--in history. And the narrative behind the push has always been and still remains way too frantic, shrill, and scripted to be anything other than fear-porn propaganda with an insidious agenda behind it. What the actual agenda really is remains to be seen. What we can safely say, what is glaringly obvious in fact, is that the agenda is evil, and has nothing to do with the health and well being of American citizens.
Here it is, August. Of 2022. I remain un-jabbed and healthy. So not only no, but f u c k no!
I never did fear what some talking head told me to fear and ain't about to start now.
The only bandwagon I'm willing to jump on is Nuremburg 2.0.
I know it's a tough pill for many of you to swallow, but this thread and the entire COVID affair, is a perfect example of just how GD dumb and gullible most people are.
Yes, there are bad people in every walk of life that genuinely promote the ideals of communism, socialism, etc. But the vast majority of human beings today are just flat fugking stupid, and flat fugking gullible. It's safe to assume that most everybody today has at least an 8th grade education and it is taught that you cannot vaccinate a virus like COVID. This is proven science going back 100 years. It was taught to all of us at some point in our lives.
There are only two classes of people alive today. Americans, and fugking idiots.
They also don't ask now in case you two geniuses didn't figure that out.
But the difference between the vaccinations you received and the COVID vaccine, is that the ones you received did something. A COVID "vaccine" does nothing. Nothing beneficial anyway.
I know it's a tough pill for many of you to swallow, but this thread and the entire COVID affair, is a perfect example of just how GD dumb and gullible most people are.
Yes, there are bad people in every walk of life that genuinely promote the ideals of communism, socialism, etc. But the vast majority of human beings today are just flat fugking stupid, and flat fugking gullible. It's safe to assume that most everybody today has at least an 8th grade education and it is taught that you cannot vaccinate a virus like COVID. This is proven science going back 100 years. It was taught to all of us at some point in our lives.
There are only two classes of people alive today. Americans, and fugking idiots.
When COVID-19 first started and I listened to the news and then I looked around my community and did not see what the news and government was claiming in their reports. At that point I knew not to believe their BS
The thing about drugs, any drugs, is not if you will get side effects, it's when you will get side effects. Take any drug (or vax) often enough and you will at some point experience adverse side effects.
A great example is the hippy, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, left over from the 50's and 60's Drug infested Government, Country running Democratic Sloths!
Who the in the "He*#" wants to live until their 100 in a Home, shi%*#ng them selves all day, relying on some liberal govt. worker to clean their a*s! I Don't!
Brother in Law, 30 Yrs. Marine!!! Dodged The Vid. got sick 6 yrs. ago, was healthy as a lark, was the Dick Clark of the Family, Ran, Swam, ate Healthy, Died last month at 68 yrs. old! Lost my best friend, and Brother I never Had! Pro Gun, Hunter, Fisherman, great outdoors man, helped many people!!! Ain't no Guarantees! Different Strokes! I' did it My way!!!
I know it's a tough pill for many of you to swallow, but this thread and the entire COVID affair, is a perfect example of just how GD dumb and gullible most people are.
Yes, there are bad people in every walk of life that genuinely promote the ideals of communism, socialism, etc. But the vast majority of human beings today are just flat fugking stupid, and flat fugking gullible. It's safe to assume that most everybody today has at least an 8th grade education and it is taught that you cannot vaccinate a virus like COVID. This is proven science going back 100 years. It was taught to all of us at some point in our lives.
There are only two classes of people alive today. Americans, and fugking idiots.
When COVID-19 first started and I listened to the news and then I looked around my community and did not see what the news and government was claiming in their reports. At that point I knew not to believe their BS
Sorry for your loss Shaun it sucks son in law died of brain cancer. I agree with everything you said. After I had covid a nurse told me I should get the jab. Doctor's wouldn't recognize natural imunity. I guess I will never look at the medical industry the same. My daughter is a nurse she got a religous exception. I hope you are doing as well as possible.
When COVID-19 first started and I listened to the news and then I looked around my community and did not see what the news and government was claiming in their reports. At that point I knew not to believe their BS
It’s interesting to me that a majority of vaxxers in my opinion believe that they made a free and informed and unencumbered decision when they were in reality bombarded by propaganda and fear and were driven into “volitional choice”.
I guess we've all got a story to tell. I've known my Dr. for over 40 yrs. now, and we've become good close friends. The Man is simply a genius. He practices what he preaches and it works for him. We Steel head fish together in a very nice clean Running River with Fly Rods for Sport. A lot of conversation goes on there. I can't begin to start to tell all the stories, and factual lessons he has taught me as he's got about 10 yrs on me. He kept my Father in Law alive for many yrs. who had several ailments. Okay point made. He suggested my Family and I get the Vaccine, as we did. That's why I go to him, and ask his advice! He's been sending us his medical Journals,(copy) via email for yrs. Like he does his other 3000 patients, if you want it. Before his email so called program, we would ask for his discarded copies, and finally subscribed to the journals through him. My wife and I are avid Readers. Sometimes, I have to re read something, as I'm a diagnosed open read interpreter! Crazy! Anyway, he suggested the First Booster, and we got it. All of us just made a huge move from a couple States over, to our place, and got the Vid from the Movers, probably! we're All doing well, as Milder Symptoms, prevailed, compared to Most. We're all very active, ages 64, down to 36, and getting along like we had a bad cold! Achy, contested, a little sore,etc........................Like Reagan said "Trust but Verify". That's always been my motto. My cousin, 56 yrs. old, had it for 2 yrs, almost died on more than one occasion, the ventilator, the whole nine yards................... Would not get the Vaccine!!! His choice, no argument from Me! He's a few lbs. overweight like I am, and also active, but still 2 different people. He just went on permanent Disability, as he'll never be the same. Just a perspective comparison of a couple of people in the whole mix of things. Certainly no Medical trial by any Means. Two elderly cousins,(Born in Italy), in their 70's, wouldn't get the vax last yr., they both Died within a week.Their 4 kids, anti vaxers, in their 40's all got the vid trying to help the parents, but thankfully survived.Many of my Relatives from the old Country,(Italy), "they no believe", until they see or experience it. Do what's best for you and yours! No Criticism from me, I wish you all the best. Good Health, and God Bless!
I guess we've all got a story to tell. I've known my Dr. for over 40 yrs. now, and we've become good close friends. The Man is simply a genius. He practices what he preaches and it works for him. We Steel head fish together in a very nice clean Running River with Fly Rods for Sport. A lot of conversation goes on there. I can't begin to start to tell all the stories, and factual lessons he has taught me as he's got about 10 yrs on me. He kept my Father in Law alive for many yrs. who had several ailments. Okay point made. He suggested my Family and I get the Vaccine, as we did. That's why I go to him, and ask his advice! He's been sending us his medical Journals,(copy) via email for yrs. Like he does his other 3000 patients, if you want it. Before his email so called program, we would ask for his discarded copies, and finally subscribed to the journals through him. My wife and I are avid Readers. Sometimes, I have to re read something, as I'm a diagnosed open read interpreter! Crazy! Anyway, he suggested the First Booster, and we got it. All of us just made a huge move from a couple States over, to our place, and got the Vid from the Movers, probably! we're All doing well, as Milder Symptoms, prevailed, compared to Most. We're all very active, ages 64, down to 36, and getting along like we had a bad cold! Achy, contested, a little sore,etc........................Like Reagan said "Trust but Verify". That's always been my motto. My cousin, 56 yrs. old, had it for 2 yrs, almost died on more than one occasion, the ventilator, the whole nine yards................... Would not get the Vaccine!!! His choice, no argument from Me! He's a few lbs. overweight like I am, and also active, but still 2 different people. He just went on permanent Disability, as he'll never be the same. Just a perspective comparison of a couple of people in the whole mix of things. Certainly no Medical trial by any Means. Two elderly cousins,(Born in Italy), in their 70's, wouldn't get the vax last yr., they both Died within a week.Their 4 kids, anti vaxers, in their 40's all got the vid trying to help the parents, but thankfully survived.Many of my Relatives from the old Country,(Italy), "they no believe", until they see or experience it. Do what's best for you and yours! No Criticism from me, I wish you all the best. Good Health, and God Bless!
HS58
I call BS.
Come on man.
They converse for hours while fly fishing for sport in a clean running river.
I got vaccinated twice, then the booster shot, then I got COVID and was sick for a couple of weeks, fever, then cold-like symptoms. Can't say it would have been worse without the vaccine but I can tell you I'm not much of a believer these days. For me, it was a calculated risk in taking the vaccine, I'm generally healthy and semi-athletic, I liked my odds either way but my extended family of 17 were all vaccinated and I didn't want to put my elderly parents at risk so a roll of the dice.
I got vaccinated twice, then the booster shot, then I got COVID and was sick for a couple of weeks, fever, then cold-like symptoms. Can't say it would have been worse without the vaccine but I can tell you I'm not much of a believer these days. For me, it was a calculated risk in taking the vaccine, I'm generally healthy and semi-athletic, I liked my odds either way but my extended family of 17 were all vaccinated and I didn't want to put my elderly parents at risk so a roll of the dice.
I agree with you. It's a gamble either way, who knows.
I didn't want to put my elderly parents at risk so a roll of the dice.
I know a few people who did similar, taking the jab not for themselves but in hopes of protecting others. Both my parents are dead and my wife's are halfway around the world so it was never a consideration for us. Not sure it would have mattered though, because the idea that I have to get jabbed for someone else's jab to work is a transparent scam.
Are you unhappy with the people who lied to you that getting the jab would reduce the likelihood you could infect others?
Hawk, I've always valued your opinion and still do. We're Americans. Just out of Curiosity, what part do you call B.S.?
It reads like fiction.
Well, I tried not to spin it, yet keep it short to the point, as I tend to run on with my stories. Just told it like it was. Probably won't know more till we get down the so called road if we make it. My cousin's story was on the News chanel in Cleveland earlier this Spring, no B.S. there. No need for me to spin it!
If some one doesn't want to get vaxed, I'' won't be the one to argue, that's their choice. I just shared a few stories, which I usually don't do.
It's a shame we can't trust our Government, or our politically corrupt, Money motivated Medical industry, any more than the Native Americans,(Indians), could!!!
I guess we've all got a story to tell. I've known my Dr. for over 40 yrs. now, and we've become good close friends. The Man is simply a genius. He practices what he preaches and it works for him. We Steel head fish together in a very nice clean Running River with Fly Rods for Sport. A lot of conversation goes on there. I can't begin to start to tell all the stories, and factual lessons he has taught me as he's got about 10 yrs on me. He kept my Father in Law alive for many yrs. who had several ailments. Okay point made. He suggested my Family and I get the Vaccine, as we did. That's why I go to him, and ask his advice! He's been sending us his medical Journals,(copy) via email for yrs. Like he does his other 3000 patients, if you want it. Before his email so called program, we would ask for his discarded copies, and finally subscribed to the journals through him. My wife and I are avid Readers. Sometimes, I have to re read something, as I'm a diagnosed open read interpreter! Crazy! Anyway, he suggested the First Booster, and we got it. All of us just made a huge move from a couple States over, to our place, and got the Vid from the Movers, probably! we're All doing well, as Milder Symptoms, prevailed, compared to Most. We're all very active, ages 64, down to 36, and getting along like we had a bad cold! Achy, contested, a little sore,etc........................Like Reagan said "Trust but Verify". That's always been my motto. My cousin, 56 yrs. old, had it for 2 yrs, almost died on more than one occasion, the ventilator, the whole nine yards................... Would not get the Vaccine!!! His choice, no argument from Me! He's a few lbs. overweight like I am, and also active, but still 2 different people. He just went on permanent Disability, as he'll never be the same. Just a perspective comparison of a couple of people in the whole mix of things. Certainly no Medical trial by any Means. Two elderly cousins,(Born in Italy), in their 70's, wouldn't get the vax last yr., they both Died within a week.Their 4 kids, anti vaxers, in their 40's all got the vid trying to help the parents, but thankfully survived.Many of my Relatives from the old Country,(Italy), "they no believe", until they see or experience it. Do what's best for you and yours! No Criticism from me, I wish you all the best. Good Health, and God Bless!
HS58
I call BS.
Come on man.
They converse for hours while fly fishing for sport in a clean running river.
LOL
I could have said that he Dunked my head in that River! LOL!!!
I am 76 years old. No shot for me. Had covid twice. Pretty much like a mild flu. The shots and the booster don't work. The side affects go from undetermined to death. The government and the media have lied about it over and over from day one. Statistics show you are just as likely to get it with the shots and booster as not. Why would anyone do that to them selves. Its snake oil at best, and probably worse.
I got vaccinated twice, then the booster shot, then I got COVID and was sick for a couple of weeks, fever, then cold-like symptoms. Can't say it would have been worse without the vaccine but I can tell you I'm not much of a believer these days. For me, it was a calculated risk in taking the vaccine, I'm generally healthy and semi-athletic, I liked my odds either way but my extended family of 17 were all vaccinated and I didn't want to put my elderly parents at risk so a roll of the dice.
I suspect you didn't help your parents at all. You will still get the virus if you are exposed. I went for a ride hog hunting with my 3 times vaccinated neighbor and caught it from him. My 2 times vaccinated wife came down with it 1 day after I had my sudden onset. I have been extremely leery of this vaccine craze from the beginning and therefore didn't get the shot, but I don't get flu shots either. Veterinary Ivermectin had me free of fever in 24 hours. Went from over 103 degrees down to my normal 97.6.
Two of my nephews had COVID-19. The one who had been vaxxed and boosted said it was like a bad flu combined with loss of sense of taste and smell. The one that refused the vax said he hardly noticed any symptoms.
Be aware they are trying to make the flu shots with MRNA tech. Before you just go get one you need to find out if they are a real vaccine or the MRNA crap.
When COVID-19 first started and I listened to the news and then I looked around my community and did not see what the news and government was claiming in their reports. At that point I knew not to believe their BS
I would think you would put your older family at more risk, thinking you are good to go with the shots/boosters and around them more willy nilly. And it has been shown that they dont reduce transmission. Its the folks with the shots and boosters getting covid now.
My mother 71, has stayed sick since her shots, she cant shake a cold, sniffles, anything. Its like her immune system is now worse because of them.
And I suppose quite possibly had my late wife taken the Ivermectin as I did she would be alive today. But she refused it.
Would have Could have Should have
Regardless, I doubt any shot, vaccine, or snake oil would have helped her in her preexisting condition. She was a very sick person.
But what do I know???
My condolences, and I can truly sympathize. My wife of 18 years passed away last December. Massive heart attack. We both thought she was dead in 2015 from stage IV cancer. Instead, she had the surgery, told them to stuff their chemo halfway through, and lived another 6.5 years. Those years were a blessing I'll always be very grateful for. The cardiac arrest was caused by blood clots in her lungs, they said, maybe caused by the cancer. Or maybe--which they didn't say--caused by the 4 rounds of chemo she underwent. Maybe both.
She, too, was tired of it all, especially the "health care system." She quit going for scans and checkups after they refused to remove the chemo port. Their "treatment" made her sicker than the cancer did, and she always kept that in mind. That and the bowls of candy at the infusion center. Anyone who has studied cancer even a little understands what a disgusting irony that is.
It's an industry. There's no incentive to cure anyone or to prevent any illness, only to maximize profits by milking insurance companies--and failing that your personal resources--for everything they can get. The "vaccine" is no different, is in fact the greatest corporate profit generator--at taxpayer expense--in history. And the narrative behind the push has always been and still remains way too frantic, shrill, and scripted to be anything other than fear-porn propaganda with an insidious agenda behind it. What the actual agenda really is remains to be seen. What we can safely say, what is glaringly obvious in fact, is that the agenda is evil, and has nothing to do with the health and well being of American citizens.
Here it is, August. Of 2022. I remain un-jabbed and healthy. So not only no, but f u c k no!
I never did fear what some talking head told me to fear and ain't about to start now.
The only bandwagon I'm willing to jump on is Nuremburg 2.0.
My mother 71, has stayed sick since her shots, she cant shake a cold, sniffles, anything. Its like her immune system is now worse because of them.
EVERYONE'S immune system is worse since COVID. It can't not be.
Unless you're one of the few that maintained high exposure to all types of germs throughout the entire ordeal, your immune system was compromised. The older you are, the worst it will be.
Let me give an example of how stupid these "health care professionals" are today. Two weeks ago, first week of school ends. Youngest is sick as fugk. Fever like a mofo and her throat was hurting. So we take her in for strep.
Nurse: "We tested for COVID and influenza as well."
Flave: "Why?"
To see if she has COVID or flu.
OK. Why?
So we can treat her if she does.
How would you treat her differently if she has the flu or COVID?
Well then we know.
We know what?
If she has either.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if a kid has a fever without flu or COVID, she has a fever with flu or COVID. Nothing changes.
Well, but then we know.
NO, you don't know anything of substance. It's going to be the same treatment for the same symptoms.
Well then why check for anything?
Because strep gets treated with antibiotics that she will need. Colds and flu do not.
I'm going to check in with the doctor and I'll be right back.
You guys that cite nurses and doctors need to really pull your fugkin' heads out of your collective asses.
Your average nurse and doctor is dumber than dog schit. They're just going to regurgitate what CNN or FOX told them.
They're mostly worthless.
Wife and I actually switched our primary care in 2019 to an old country type Dr. His office consists of him, his wife as office manager and one lady that draws blood/checks weight/BP etc
He is unaffiliated with either of the major regional healthcare/hospitals
Just old school
He has never once mentioned or asked if we have concerning vax status.
People on here have gotten the shots to go on hunts and vacays.. Pleasure needs and money issues versus possibly putting their health and life on the line.....
Btw, I mentioned a while back that I experienced some discrepancies with my olfactory sensors that when any over powering odor appeared. Good or bad. It immediately was perceived as something akin to a burning skunk. LOL! Best way I could describe it. I realized that phenomenon disappeared about the beginning of July and things seem to be back to about as normal as they were before the infection.
Took right at a year to stablize. Just thought I’d share that.
Let me give an example of how stupid these "health care professionals" are today. Two weeks ago, first week of school ends. Youngest is sick as fugk. Fever like a mofo and her throat was hurting. So we take her in for strep.
Nurse: "We tested for COVID and influenza as well."
Flave: "Why?"
To see if she has COVID or flu.
OK. Why?
So we can treat her if she does.
How would you treat her differently if she has the flu or COVID?
Well then we know.
We know what?
If she has either.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if a kid has a fever without flu or COVID, she has a fever with flu or COVID. Nothing changes.
Well, but then we know.
NO, you don't know anything of substance. It's going to be the same treatment for the same symptoms.
Well then why check for anything?
Because strep gets treated with antibiotics that she will need. Colds and flu do not.
I'm going to check in with the doctor and I'll be right back.
Uh-huh.
I'm telling you. These people are FUGKING IDIOTS.
They all get money for testing people for COVID-19 and for recorded cases of COVID-19.
Let me give an example of how stupid these "health care professionals" are today. Two weeks ago, first week of school ends. Youngest is sick as fugk. Fever like a mofo and her throat was hurting. So we take her in for strep.
Nurse: "We tested for COVID and influenza as well."
Flave: "Why?"
To see if she has COVID or flu.
OK. Why?
So we can treat her if she does.
How would you treat her differently if she has the flu or COVID?
Well then we know.
We know what?
If she has either.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if a kid has a fever without flu or COVID, she has a fever with flu or COVID. Nothing changes.
Well, but then we know.
NO, you don't know anything of substance. It's going to be the same treatment for the same symptoms.
Well then why check for anything?
Because strep gets treated with antibiotics that she will need. Colds and flu do not.
I'm going to check in with the doctor and I'll be right back.
Uh-huh.
I'm telling you. These people are FUGKING IDIOTS.
Most have been Monkey-Trained to test for covid.
Why, well... so we know.
We schooled hard on our kids that were sophomore and junior that they are not to ever let anyone test them for covid. No matter what anyone said. Do not allow yourself to be tested PERIOD.Because so many nurses etc in that situation had been brainwashed to test, test, test.
And to what end? Simply to give some d!pSchit control over you because now they have proof you popped hot.
Was a crazy thing to live through. Kids and sometimes my wife wondered about me when I was adamant about not following the advice of the EXPERTS. Dang glad we stuck to our guns. I want to feel sorry for those that didn't. But...
Should be leaving for a sheep hunt with my friends in NWT. Due to Canada's vax policy, I dropped out. My friends were all anti vax till the ability to travel hurt them. They took the shots.
I respect their choice and they respect mine. I will miss being with them and hope they have a great hunt. There are a few sheep in Alaska if I want one bad enough.
Another buddy took the jab cuz he didn't want to miss his Mexico trip. I respect peoples ability to choose. I am also surprised how little pressure or sacrifice it takes for some to cave in and compromise their values.
Amazing innit?
My son said he wanted to get vaccinated just so he could go to our cabin in Canada. What I might expect from a 16 year old. But for grown ass adults to treat that decision so lightly blows me away.
We schooled hard on our kids that were sophomore and junior that they are not to ever let anyone test them for covid. No matter what anyone said. Do not allow yourself to be tested PERIOD.Because so many nurses etc in that situation had been brainwashed to test, test, test.
And to what end? Simply to give some d!pSchit control over you because now they have proof you popped hot.
Was a crazy thing to live through. Kids and sometimes my wife wondered about me when I was adamant about not following the advice of the EXPERTS. Dang glad we stuck to our guns. I want to feel sorry for those that didn't. But...
It was truly bizarre to watch rationale thought go right out the window. And it was all based on fear.
They all get money for testing people for COVID-19 and for recorded cases of COVID-19.
That would explain a hospital implementing a "test everyone" policy.
That's not one I'm talking about. I'm talking about looking the nurse or doctor in the eye and asking them to explain it to you. It's not that they can't that is troubling, because I fugking KNOW they can't.
What's troubling is they themselves have never stopped and pondered what I'm asking, by themselves. They are that fugking stupid.
I know it's a tough pill for many of you to swallow, but this thread and the entire COVID affair, is a perfect example of just how GD dumb and gullible most people are.
Yes, there are bad people in every walk of life that genuinely promote the ideals of communism, socialism, etc. But the vast majority of human beings today are just flat fugking stupid, and flat fugking gullible. It's safe to assume that most everybody today has at least an 8th grade education and it is taught that you cannot vaccinate a virus like COVID. This is proven science going back 100 years. It was taught to all of us at some point in our lives.
There are only two classes of people alive today. Americans, and fugking idiots.
I spent a lot of time visiting with close friends that are physicians during this entire affair. Read voraciously, and not the news. Although I did keep up with the news as a point of reference.
A friend that is a retired MD but taken a part time job as physician at womens' jail told me straight out, you need to get vaxed. What he saw scared him. Another friend is a cardiologist was spooked similarly. Another friend that is a family medical MD told me she signed an unbelievable number of death certs because of this virus. But she and I agreed that the vax was necessarily the answer for me and my family. She was pressured to get vaxed by her hospital. Her husband was also pressured even though he had it 3-4 months previous and recovered. He finally said FU when they were suggesting, strongly, boosters. He had enough and told them as much.
So much didn't add up. And if you just kept your eyes open and mind clear, you would see the discrepancies. But people have the sheep mindset that they don't want any risk. They want someone to take care of them. Even if it is a smokescreen, they feel better being told everything will be alright.
They all get money for testing people for COVID-19 and for recorded cases of COVID-19.
That would explain a hospital implementing a "test everyone" policy.
That's not one I'm talking about. I'm talking about looking the nurse or doctor in the eye and asking them to explain it to you. It's not that they can't that is troubling, because I fugking KNOW they can't.
What's troubling is they themselves have never stopped and pondered what I'm asking, by themselves. They are that fugking stupid.
Thou shalt not question my AUTHORITI! They're scared sheeples......
We schooled hard on our kids that were sophomore and junior that they are not to ever let anyone test them for covid. No matter what anyone said. Do not allow yourself to be tested PERIOD.Because so many nurses etc in that situation had been brainwashed to test, test, test.
And to what end? Simply to give some d!pSchit control over you because now they have proof you popped hot.
Was a crazy thing to live through. Kids and sometimes my wife wondered about me when I was adamant about not following the advice of the EXPERTS. Dang glad we stuck to our guns. I want to feel sorry for those that didn't. But...
It was truly bizarre to watch rationale thought go right out the window. And it was all based on fear.
Fugking scary.
Absolutely with you there.
Buddy that is a dentist and has a Masters in public health found every stupid reason in the book to believe everything dumbschit theory that came out every week. The contortions he went through to follow this crap wasmind-boggling. Very intelligent guy that absolutely jumped the rails on this topic.
Watching these people respond to threats and how their mental faculties take leave when that happens really makes me fear for when some real threat comes along down the road.
You all must live in some fugged up places with a buncha fugged up populations.
1 person I know of died of covid supposedly. Some softball mom Khanarella knew of like a decade ago. 55 56 yrs old last year.
Just struck me as kinda strange that out of the blue her family sent out her death to anyone the lady might have knew or known. Fishing for sympathy it struck me as.. But I'm a dik anyways and got a low opinon of most O2 consumers on this rock as it is....
Khanarella saying you remember so and so lady???
Ahhhhhh no not really.
Well her family sent me a email she died of covid.
How they get your email????
Probably from the old team contact roster.
Oh....
Thinking to myself woman probably had gawd knows what else.
Some of those softball moms were big time porkers anyways...
But that is the one person I "knew" or was supposed to have known that died from the Covids.....
At least it killed a schitload of 1.0,s They don't wash their hair very often. I imagine that nappy hair and funky scalp are a bacterial breeding ground. It might have been smart to have shaved 1.0,s noggins in Hospitals.
Doing everything they could to save 1.0,s But yet their dirty unwashed hair was a bio wpn working against it all. And none of em could put 2 and 2 together....
Reading some of these posts just further proves how dumb some of you are and how doomed we all are. Do any of you pro-poison shot people even understand that the technology to vax against a cold virus doesnt even exist? Let me say it again. A working cold virus vax does not exist. So what exactly are you dummies putting in your bodies? Chit that works so well that you will almost be guaranteed to get covid, probably more than once. And the dumbchit thinking that says, well I got covid and it wasnt bad. See, the poison shot worked. News flash. The far majority of people who got covid either didnt even know they were sick or just had an extremely mild cold. Most of the deaths were from hospitals not using the proper treatments for the small amount of people who had issues. Remdesivir made things 10 times worse for the unlucky few who had issues. Vents killed people. This isnt ground breaking news. Its been out there for a long time. But armed with all of this info and knowing that they have lied to everyone since day one, you pro-shot dumbfuks still line up and even more, brag about it lmao
But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success. - Mein Kampf
I like when you tell people you can't vaccinate for COVID and they reply "Are you a doctor?" That's akin to asking me if I'm ASE certified when I tell you the driver-side-rear is flat. LOL Fugking idiots.
As I heard a judge tell a defense lawyer once, "you don't have to be an expert to figure out most things" when the lawyer was badgering a witness because he wasn't an expert. A one eyed N boy could see this 'vaccine' is terribly risky.
There is no telling how many adverse events and evidence have been suppressed.
Makes me wonder what the motive is. What are they trying to accomplish? Who benefits? The main movers in this aren't out for the good of the proletariat.
I like when you tell people you can't vaccinate for COVID and they reply "Are you a doctor?" That's akin to asking me if I'm ASE certified when I tell you the driver-side-rear is flat. LOL Fugking idiots.
As I heard a judge tell a defense lawyer once, "you don't have to be an expert to figure out most things" when the lawyer was badgering a witness because he wasn't an expert. A one eyed N boy could see this 'vaccine' is terribly risky.
There is no telling how many adverse events and evidence have been suppressed.
Makes me wonder what the motive is. What are they trying to accomplish? Who benefits? The main movers in this aren't out for the good of the proletariat.
The biggest motive is MONEY, HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY
Not getting any unproven jabs or with adverse side effects, especially heart and liver issues. Survived COVID without jabs and Desert Storm, Great Southeast Asia Unpleasantness with all those jabs for small pox, yellow fever, plague, etc.
We’re not here for a long time; just here for a good time!
I like when you tell people you can't vaccinate for COVID and they reply "Are you a doctor?" That's akin to asking me if I'm ASE certified when I tell you the driver-side-rear is flat. LOL Fugking idiots.
As I heard a judge tell a defense lawyer once, "you don't have to be an expert to figure out most things" when the lawyer was badgering a witness because he wasn't an expert. A one eyed N boy could see this 'vaccine' is terribly risky.
There is no telling how many adverse events and evidence have been suppressed.
Makes me wonder what the motive is. What are they trying to accomplish? Who benefits? The main movers in this aren't out for the good of the proletariat.
Getting the population down to 500 million world wide and seeing how gullible folks are.Take your jab and drink the koolaid peasants!!
I like when you tell people you can't vaccinate for COVID and they reply "Are you a doctor?" That's akin to asking me if I'm ASE certified when I tell you the driver-side-rear is flat. LOL Fugking idiots.
As I heard a judge tell a defense lawyer once, "you don't have to be an expert to figure out most things" when the lawyer was badgering a witness because he wasn't an expert. A one eyed N boy could see this 'vaccine' is terribly risky.
There is no telling how many adverse events and evidence have been suppressed.
Makes me wonder what the motive is. What are they trying to accomplish? Who benefits? The main movers in this aren't out for the good of the proletariat.
Getting the population down to 500 million world wide and seeing how gullible folks are.Take your jab and drink the koolaid peasants!!
Even though fewer heart attacks are occurring in the U.S. -- in large part due to the use of medications like statins and a decline in smoking -- these events are steadily rising in very young adults. New data not only validate this trend but also reveal that more heart attacks are striking those under age 40, according to research being presented at the American College of Cardiology's 68th Annual Scientific Session.
Reading some of these posts just further proves how dumb some of you are and how doomed we all are. Do any of you pro-poison shot people even understand that the technology to vax against a cold virus doesnt even exist? Let me say it again. A working cold virus vax does not exist. So what exactly are you dummies putting in your bodies? Chit that works so well that you will almost be guaranteed to get covid, probably more than once. And the dumbchit thinking that says, well I got covid and it wasnt bad. See, the poison shot worked. News flash. The far majority of people who got covid either didnt even know they were sick or just had an extremely mild cold. Most of the deaths were from hospitals not using the proper treatments for the small amount of people who had issues. Remdesivir made things 10 times worse for the unlucky few who had issues. Vents killed people. This isnt ground breaking news. Its been out there for a long time. But armed with all of this info and knowing that they have lied to everyone since day one, you pro-shot dumbfuks still line up and even more, brag about it lmao
Even though fewer heart attacks are occurring in the U.S. -- in large part due to the use of medications like statins and a decline in smoking -- these events are steadily rising in very young adults. New data not only validate this trend but also reveal that more heart attacks are striking those under age 40, according to research being presented at the American College of Cardiology's 68th Annual Scientific Session.
Even though fewer heart attacks are occurring in the U.S. -- in large part due to the use of medications like statins and a decline in smoking -- these events are steadily rising in very young adults. New data not only validate this trend but also reveal that more heart attacks are striking those under age 40, according to research being presented at the American College of Cardiology's 68th Annual Scientific Session.
That article; and the quote you posted from it; was published March 2019.
Do mRNA COVID-19 vaccines cause heart inflammation?
These cases typically occur in male adolescents and young adults after the second dose, and within a week of vaccination. It is important to seek medical care if symptomatic (chest pain, shortness of breath, having a fast beating, fluttering, or pounding heart).
I was telling folks back in 2020, that you don’t have to be a MD or PhD to realize we are being hosed. In fact those folks are among the most gullible.
I was telling folks back in 2020, that you don’t have to be a MD or PhD to realize we are being hosed. In fact those folks are among the most gullible.
Does that include CockSocket or is he on your cool guy list?
Pretty simple really. The one phrase these “smart people” never use is, “I don’t know”. To them it’s like a man saying his pecker is too short or wobbly. How many times have they changed the official story on masks, contagiousness, incubation periods, etc? Common sense (your own) is the best defense available. Stay the Hell away from other people as much as possible.
I was telling folks back in 2020, that you don’t have to be a MD or PhD to realize we are being hosed. In fact those folks are among the most gullible.
Have you noticed all the experts that we used to see constantly have disappeared? Or changed their story umpteen times as if they aren't on video with their previous stories?
It seems to be ramping up again as we head into fall.
We will probably get it when they have the next free clinic.
I don't want Polio after all.
You should research history of the Polio vaccine, what a CF that was with the first 2 attempts. And because of that is why vaccines are supposed to go through years of testing trials to ensure the publics safety.
I was telling folks back in 2020, that you don’t have to be a MD or PhD to realize we are being hosed. In fact those folks are among the most gullible.
And among the most likely to fall victim to group think.
I know it's a tough pill for many of you to swallow, but this thread and the entire COVID affair, is a perfect example of just how GD dumb and gullible most people are.
Yes, there are bad people in every walk of life that genuinely promote the ideals of communism, socialism, etc. But the vast majority of human beings today are just flat fugking stupid, and flat fugking gullible. It's safe to assume that most everybody today has at least an 8th grade education and it is taught that you cannot vaccinate a virus like COVID. This is proven science going back 100 years. It was taught to all of us at some point in our lives.
There are only two classes of people alive today. Americans, and fugking idiots.
You nailed it. Many other subjects around here prove the very same thing about the number of idiots that inhabit the earth today. Well said.
I acquired an auto immune disorder in early 2020, sarcoidosis, so obviously I have a compromised immune system. Nevertheless I couldn't make myself believe the covtard BS and have remained unvaxed to this day in spite of my doc's rec to get vaxed. He finally quit asking me about it after I ingrained it in his head that I thought the whole thing was a fraud. I had covid las December and it was nothing more than a mild cold and a little fatigue. I hunted mule deer every day.
Let me give an example of how stupid these "health care professionals" are today. Two weeks ago, first week of school ends. Youngest is sick as fugk. Fever like a mofo and her throat was hurting. So we take her in for strep.
Nurse: "We tested for COVID and influenza as well."
Flave: "Why?"
To see if she has COVID or flu.
OK. Why?
So we can treat her if she does.
How would you treat her differently if she has the flu or COVID?
Well then we know.
We know what?
If she has either.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if a kid has a fever without flu or COVID, she has a fever with flu or COVID. Nothing changes.
Well, but then we know.
NO, you don't know anything of substance. It's going to be the same treatment for the same symptoms.
Well then why check for anything?
Because strep gets treated with antibiotics that she will need. Colds and flu do not.
I'm going to check in with the doctor and I'll be right back.
Uh-huh.
I'm telling you. These people are FUGKING IDIOTS.
Most have been Monkey-Trained to test for covid.
Why, well... so we know.
We schooled hard on our kids that were sophomore and junior that they are not to ever let anyone test them for covid. No matter what anyone said. Do not allow yourself to be tested PERIOD.Because so many nurses etc in that situation had been brainwashed to test, test, test.
And to what end? Simply to give some d!pSchit control over you because now they have proof you popped hot.
Was a crazy thing to live through. Kids and sometimes my wife wondered about me when I was adamant about not following the advice of the EXPERTS. Dang glad we stuck to our guns. I want to feel sorry for those that didn't. But...
I begged my parents to not get it. My parents asked me a few times. I said absolutely not. Backstory I was born with a congenital heart problem. I stuck to my guns and went with my gut then my mind and decided to abstain from the jab. Glad I did. Despite cardiologist urging. My work really pouring on the pressure. My dad since had heart issues and open heart surgery AND his blood sugar is all over the place. Absolute disaster. I can’t prove it, but I’d bet a bunch it has everything to do with that damn shot. I’m just pissed that so many people were weak minded, brainwashed and totally mislead and got this shot and still got sick….many died even with the vaxxxx
Just read through this whole thread. What a bunch of retards with... I cAnT wAiT tO gEt mY cOvID vAcCiNe.... Dumbasses have fun with your shortened lifespan and health problems.
Just read through this whole thread. What a bunch of retards with... I cAnT wAiT tO gEt mY cOvID vAcCiNe.... Dumbasses have fun with your shortened lifespan and health problems.
Unbelievable how many people have fallen for the lies about this experimental vaccine.
To the OP: No fugking way in Hell. Are you kidding? I probably replied to this thread months ago, but I’m too lazy to check in since it just popped up. Thought I would answer again.
Wouldnt again. Took the J&J. But...always wondered...what if??
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If I had been going to take the vaccine I wouldn't after reading this. Some of the stupidest members of the 'fire that aren't blatant trolls are fully on-board. That should be enough to give anybody considering it, pause.
His daughter told me over the phone just now that he died in his sleep, in his own bed, in the night. He had been suffering from it since the early days of September (3rd or 4th), and he told me he was taking all the FLCCC recommended early protocol treatments, including Ivermectin. His last PM to me indicated his symptoms were rough, but that he would make it. Being his close friend here at the Fire, I sure was hoping and praying that was the case. Very much saddened to hear of his passing.
The wife and I will take it as soon as it's available.. I've had this crap twice and she's had it once.. I was simply sick, my wife developed Covid related pneumonia and had a very tough recovery... We are taking the vaccine.
I know this is an old post, but it's amazing that folks are so uneducated in basic immune science, such that you don't seem to realize that even the best vaccine in the world doesn't come close to providing the level of immunity that one acquires by actually contracting and getting over a virus.
Wouldnt again. Took the J&J. But...always wondered...what if??
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If I had been going to take the vaccine I wouldn't after reading this. Some of the stupidest members of the 'fire that aren't blatant trolls are fully on-board. That should be enough to give anybody considering it, pause.
His daughter told me over the phone just now that he died in his sleep, in his own bed, in the night. He had been suffering from it since the early days of September (3rd or 4th), and he told me he was taking all the FLCCC recommended early protocol treatments, including Ivermectin. His last PM to me indicated his symptoms were rough, but that he would make it. Being his close friend here at the Fire, I sure was hoping and praying that was the case. Very much saddened to hear of his passing.
You wouldn't take it again but you'll post about the death of Ethan who didn't take it. WTF?
You wouldn't take it again but you'll post about the death of Ethan who didn't take it. WTF?
Not sure youre wtf'n about. Not hard to understand. I took it, wouldnt again. EE chose not to take it, would he knowing covid would kill him?
Why would he take the jab even if he had the benefit of foresight?….it wouldn’t have prevented him from getting infected and it wouldn’t have prevented him from transmitting it either. There’s nothing to indicate that the outcome would have been different had he taken a fake and ineffective vaccine.
You wouldn't take it again but you'll post about the death of Ethan who didn't take it. WTF?
Not sure youre wtf'n about. Not hard to understand. I took it, wouldnt again. EE chose not to take it, would he knowing covid would kill him?
Since it's now quite clear that the vaccine offers no protection whatsoever, I would imagine he'd still abstain. There's not been one scientific study that demonstrates that it prevents (or reduces) contraction, spread, hospitalization, or death. It's quite clear that it causes hospitalization and death, however.
Why would he take the jab even if he had the benefit of foresight?….it wouldn’t have prevented him from getting infected and it wouldn’t have prevented him from transmitting it either. There’s nothing to indicate that the outcome would have been different had he taken a fake and ineffective vaccine.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Since it's now quite clear that the vaccine offers no protection whatsoever, I would imagine he'd still abstain. There's not been one scientific study that demonstrates that it prevents (or reduces) contraction, spread, hospitalization, or death. It's quite clear that it causes hospitalization and death, however.
But but..ivermectin....FLCCC. Faith in one...that didnt do jack either??? Jus' sayin
Wouldnt again. Took the J&J. But...always wondered...what if??
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If I had been going to take the vaccine I wouldn't after reading this. Some of the stupidest members of the 'fire that aren't blatant trolls are fully on-board. That should be enough to give anybody considering it, pause.
His daughter told me over the phone just now that he died in his sleep, in his own bed, in the night. He had been suffering from it since the early days of September (3rd or 4th), and he told me he was taking all the FLCCC recommended early protocol treatments, including Ivermectin. His last PM to me indicated his symptoms were rough, but that he would make it. Being his close friend here at the Fire, I sure was hoping and praying that was the case. Very much saddened to hear of his passing.
Why would he take the jab even if he had the benefit of foresight?….it wouldn’t have prevented him from getting infected and it wouldn’t have prevented him from transmitting it either. There’s nothing to indicate that the outcome would have been different had he taken a fake and ineffective vaccine.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Since it's now quite clear that the vaccine offers no protection whatsoever, I would imagine he'd still abstain. There's not been one scientific study that demonstrates that it prevents (or reduces) contraction, spread, hospitalization, or death. It's quite clear that it causes hospitalization and death, however.
But but..ivermectin....FLCCC. Faith in one...that didnt do jack either??? Jus' sayin
You wouldn't take it again but you'll post about the death of Ethan who didn't take it. WTF?
Not sure youre wtf'n about. Not hard to understand. I took it, wouldnt again. EE chose not to take it, would he knowing covid would kill him?
How do you know it was Covid and not the treatment that killed him? You don't.
You are trying to make him an example of what happened to someone who refused the clot shot and I don't think it's right. That's what the WTF is about.
But but..ivermectin....FLCCC. Faith in one...that didnt do jack either??? Jus' sayin
Ivermectin has overwhelming scientific support as an effective treatment. Unless you are scientifically illiterate, you understand that this doesn't translate as 100% effective in all cases. EE was quite overweight and had a history of nearly dying from pneumonia on at least one occasion in the recent past, which severely damaged his lungs.
Ivermectin has overwhelming scientific support as an effective treatment. Unless you are scientifically illiterate, you understand that this doesn't translate as 100% effective in all cases. EE had was quite overweight and had a history of nearly dying from pneumonia on at least one occasion in the recent past, which severely damaged his lungs.
And?? Pushin daisies. Knew he had issues but got influenced by y'all/scared to take the shot. Could it have lowered symptoms and avoided the worst? Who knows. Again, jus' sayin.
Ivermectin has overwhelming scientific support as an effective treatment. Unless you are scientifically illiterate, you understand that this doesn't translate as 100% effective in all cases. EE had was quite overweight and had a history of nearly dying from pneumonia on at least one occasion in the recent past, which severely damaged his lungs.
And?? Pushin daisies. Knew he had issues but got influenced by y'all/scared to take the shot. Could it have lowered symptoms and avoided the worst? Who knows. Again, jus' sayin.
How do you know it was Covid and not the treatment that killed him? You don't.
neither do you, so....
Exactly dumbass, never said or insinuated that I did. You did.
No, I quoted what RH posted.
No, you made it clear in your first post a little while ago that you got the shot and EE didn't and that he's dead now. That's what you did, black and white..... go back and look. And if you can't see it then there's no sense talking to you because you're too stupid to see what you did.
No, you made it clear in your first post a little while ago that you got the shot and EE didn't and that he's dead now. That's what you did, black and white..... go back and look. And if you can't see it then there's no sense talking to you because you're too stupid to see what you did.
I got the shot, didnt get covid. EE didnt get shot, he ded. Then quoted TRH. So....??? Nice talkin to ya. No really I dont give a schit LOL.
But but..ivermectin....FLCCC. Faith in one...that didnt do jack either??? Jus' sayin
Ivermectin has overwhelming scientific support as an effective treatment. Unless you are scientifically illiterate, you understand that this doesn't translate as 100% effective in all cases. EE was quite overweight and had a history of nearly dying from pneumonia on at least one occasion in the recent past, which severely damaged his lungs.
Good reply. I was trying to compile my thoughts so I could convey them without contempt or sarcasm but you did better than I would’ve.
Each individual is different and each person’s body has its own unique immunity. Nobody is guaranteed to survive the injection of chemicals into their body and nobody is guaranteed to survive irregardless of their immunization status.
The giant leap of logic that’s required to assume that EE died because he did NOT get injected with a concoction of chemicals that we KNOW is NOT effective in the prevention, transmission and expression of the disease is to suspend all reason and intelligence in favor of liberal hyperbole and bald faced lies.
I’ll go out on a limb and say that since the vaccine isn’t a vaccine, it isn’t effective and it more importantly is NOT safe that EE would not have benefited from being injected with that crap. None of us know for certain but it doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to deduce that if a vaccine isn’t a vaccine and it doesn’t prevent infection then getting “inoculated” with it won’t be of any benefit. If it doesn’t work how can anyone suggest that getting the shot would benefit the outcome?
It’s as if a large percentage of the people in this country have removed their brains or whatever they substituted for brains and set it in the top drawer choosing to suspend their ability to think for themselves and blindly following the dipshits at the AMA or VA.
All that typing....and thats the only part that matters. Period. But what we DO know is he followed the crowd here. That sure as hell didnt get him anywhere, did it?
All that typing....and thats the only part that matters. Period. But what we DO know is he followed the crowd here. That sure as hell didnt get him anywhere, did it?
Uhhh, I did know for certain but I’m not a poser from Washington state or a lazy fugking union steward from Fetterman’ville.
All that typing....and thats the only part that matters. Period. But what we DO know is he followed the crowd here. That sure as hell didnt get him anywhere, did it?
He didn't follow a crowd. He was a leader on this issue.
They ain't sticking that monkey spunk in me without a fight! ....and I'm "immunocompromised" as is the wife. We made it through without so much as a sniffle!
Eldest told work to, "Eat a bug!" and did NOT get the shot. Youngest is a Fed employee with less that 10 years to retirement. DHS pushed until the kid felt there was no choice and took "The Jab"! Other work mates held out until the Gov't relented and they didn't have to take it. The kid now doesn't get sick, but feels tired and listless quite often.....and STILL took a booster before telling Uncle Sam to, "Kiss my grits! I ain't taking no more!" Lost several good friends due to that crap. One guy's wife recovered from COVID, then relapsed. Local "abattoir" of a hospital told him, "No shot! No visitation, even if she is your wife!" He relented and got "The Jab"! Two weeks later, HE'S dead! Wife recovered!
He didn't follow a crowd. He was a leader on this issue.
Lead straight to the morgue, damn shame.
A bad case of the flu would have had the same effect in his condition. As has been explained to you already, the "vaccine" wouldn't have helped, and more likely would have harmed him.
No, you made it clear in your first post a little while ago that you got the shot and EE didn't and that he's dead now. That's what you did, black and white..... go back and look. And if you can't see it then there's no sense talking to you because you're too stupid to see what you did.
I got the shot, didnt get covid. EE didnt get shot, he ded. Then quoted TRH. So....??? Nice talkin to ya. No really I dont give a schit LOL.
Dragging EE’s name into this is bad form IMO. I didn’t get vaxed and had Covid 2x in four months. Neither was worse than an average cold. No cough the first time just a mild persistent fever. Second time felt like spring allergies but with a cough for a few days. I can’t imagine that the vax would have made a difference. I was only tested due to a work requirement.
He didn't follow a crowd. He was a leader on this issue.
Lead straight to the morgue, damn shame.
A bad case of the flu would have had the same effect in his condition. As has been explained to you already, the "vaccine" wouldn't have helped, and more likely would have harmed him.
But but again....ivermectin....FLCCC.....keep the faith TRH!!
Think what you will....doesnt matter if its one of "our" own or some jack off in Jersey.
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
I didn’t get vaxed and had Covid 2x in four months. Neither was worse than an average cold. No cough the first time just a mild persistent fever. Second time felt like spring allergies but with a cough for a few days. I can’t imagine that the vax would have made a difference.
But but again....ivermectin....FLCCC.....keep the faith TRH!!
As I suspected. Scientifically illiterate.
No, not at all. Prove to me EE's symptoms would not have been lessened. You cant.
EE was the first member here to shoot me a PM. He was a rock solid guy. Continuing to bring up his name in order to try to prove a point is beyond disrespectful.
But but again....ivermectin....FLCCC.....keep the faith TRH!!
As I suspected. Scientifically illiterate.
No, not at all. Prove to me EE's symptoms would not have been lessened. You cant.
EE was the first member here to shoot me a PM. He was a rock solid guy. Continuing to bring up his name in order to try to prove a point is beyond disrespectful.
That’s what the cult does.
They don’t think for themselves. They’re fugking idiots.
But but again....ivermectin....FLCCC.....keep the faith TRH!!
As I suspected. Scientifically illiterate.
No, not at all. Prove to me EE's symptoms would not have been lessened. You cant.
EE was the first member here to shoot me a PM. He was a rock solid guy. Continuing to bring up his name in order to try to prove a point is beyond disrespectful.
EE was the first member here to shoot me a PM. He was a rock solid guy. Continuing to bring up his name in order to try to prove a point is beyond disrespectful.
Isnt disrespect the name of the game in the "Hunters Campfire"?? Seriously, your friend passed and im sorry he passed in that manner. Doesnt change the facts tho. He chose, especially after reading on here, not to take the shot. Not one sob can say one way or the other if it would have helped. I doubt it would too, but....who knows for certain?
Wouldnt again. Took the J&J. But...always wondered...what if??
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If I had been going to take the vaccine I wouldn't after reading this. Some of the stupidest members of the 'fire that aren't blatant trolls are fully on-board. That should be enough to give anybody considering it, pause.
His daughter told me over the phone just now that he died in his sleep, in his own bed, in the night. He had been suffering from it since the early days of September (3rd or 4th), and he told me he was taking all the FLCCC recommended early protocol treatments, including Ivermectin. His last PM to me indicated his symptoms were rough, but that he would make it. Being his close friend here at the Fire, I sure was hoping and praying that was the case. Very much saddened to hear of his passing.
Ethan was a great guy to talk with and I miss him around here.
From what I have seen and from what I understand I think Ethan would have passed even if he did have the "Vaccine". unfortunately I believe his DNA make up was just bad for this flu.
There were lots that died even though they were "vaxed", I think Ethan would have been one of them.
EE was the first member here to shoot me a PM. He was a rock solid guy. Continuing to bring up his name in order to try to prove a point is beyond disrespectful.
Isnt disrespect the name of the game in the "Hunters Campfire"?? Seriously, your friend passed and im sorry he passed in that manner. Doesnt change the facts tho. He chose, especially after reading on here, not to take the shot. Not one sob can say one way or the other if it would have helped. I doubt it would too, but....who knows for certain?
I’m not laying claiming to us being friends. I never met him and didn’t know him outside of the Fire. We exchanged a few messages and I consider him to have been one of the really bright dudes on this site with some of the best comments and insights.
As pointed out above you’re playing a prove me wrong game. Put another way. I had Covid 2x and it was a mild cold. Getting vaxed probably would have killed me. Now prove me wrong. That’s fugging dishonest false logic.
Attempting to use a respected deceased member to further a point is classless.
Ethan was a great guy to talk with and I miss him around here.
From what I have seen and from what I understand I think Ethan would have passed even if he did have the "Vaccine". unfortunately I believe his DNA make up was just bad for this flu.
There were lots that died even though they were "vaxed", I think Ethan would have been one of them.
Def good dude, and I tend to agree. None of us know, that is my point. A lot of good folks passed, for whatever reason.
Ethan was a great guy to talk with and I miss him around here.
From what I have seen and from what I understand I think Ethan would have passed even if he did have the "Vaccine". unfortunately I believe his DNA make up was just bad for this flu.
There were lots that died even though they were "vaxed", I think Ethan would have been one of them.
Def good dude, and I tend to agree. None of us know, that is my point. A lot of good folks passed, for whatever reason.
Is it safe to assume you’ll not kill a deer this opener?
Again?
LOL
Oh please, dont assume...you never get it right LOL But just for you sweetie ill give ya the inside scoop...shhh...not going this year. Dont have to. Now you can assume something else youll get wrong LOL
Is it safe to assume you’ll not kill a deer this opener?
Again?
LOL
Oh please, dont assume...you never get it right LOL But just for you sweetie ill give ya the inside scoop...shhh...not going this year. Dont have to. Now you can assume something else youll get wrong LOL
Serious.....serious serious....all you have to do is ask. Honest indian. Ive wanted to talk to you on the phone for ages! Believe me.....I think we'd get along great LOL
Serious.....serious serious....all you have to do is ask. Honest indian. Ive wanted to talk to you on the phone for ages! Believe me.....I think we'd get along great LOL
Serious.....serious serious....all you have to do is ask. Honest indian. Ive wanted to talk to you on the phone for ages! Believe me.....I think we'd get along great LOL
No.
We wouldn’t.
Im serious!!! I know we would! Promise!! If you only knew!!!! LOL
pahick: just curious, why would you resort to talking about a man's wife like you do? I assume you don't know her? There are legal liabilities for defamation. Do you know her?
Serious.....serious serious....all you have to do is ask. Honest indian. Ive wanted to talk to you on the phone for ages! Believe me.....I think we'd get along great LOL
No.
We wouldn’t.
Im serious!!! I know we would! Promise!! If you only knew!!!! LOL
pahick: just curious, why would you resort to talking about a man's wife like you do? I assume you don't know her? There are legal liabilities for defamation. Do you know her?
pahick: just curious, why would you resort to talking about a man's wife like you do? I assume you don't know her? There are legal liabilities for defamation. Do you know her?
Dont assume. Never assume.
I put a question mark behind my assumption. What do you know? Nothing?
Serious.....serious serious....all you have to do is ask. Honest indian. Ive wanted to talk to you on the phone for ages! Believe me.....I think we'd get along great LOL
No.
We wouldn’t.
Im serious!!! I know we would! Promise!! If you only knew!!!! LOL
He chose, especially after reading on here, not to take the shot.
Ethan was his own man, I'll guarantee he was influenced by no one, he looked at the evidence and saw it for the fraud it was.
Yep.
Get in your f.a.g.mobile and drive toward F.a.g.Ville
Once again, as per usual, proving your nothing but a classless, clueless little ankle biting POS with a chronic case of Little Man Syndrome and dick envy. And a closet homo who never fails to make references to your obsession with everything GAY. Get a life, Little Man. Or run along to your local gay bar where you’ll feel right at home. Going through life being so insecure must really suck for you. Because real men don’t spend 24/7 stalking another man on the internet. 🤪🤪🤪
He chose, especially after reading on here, not to take the shot.
Ethan was his own man, I'll guarantee he was influenced by no one, he looked at the evidence and saw it for the fraud it was.
My read on him as well.
Using his death to make a point isn't even gauche, it's disgusting.
We all have to die from something, and we all have a time to go. To use the death of a valued man as fodder for a personal agenda disrespects him, and dishonors all of Life and God.