I think it's looking more and more like the vaccine will eventually be mandated, if not by government, then by key entities like employers. I'm sure mandatory vaccination will become all the rage in large woke corporations and unfortunately, past legal precedence has generally sided with employers on the issue of mandatory vaccination. Not that it would matter in our new coronavirus world... laws, legal protections, etc are disregarded when inconvenient.
That aside, what can (if anything) be done to resist mandatory vaccinations particularly if employers start to require it as contingency for continued employment?
And no... I'm not an antivaxer but I'm also not in favor of being forced to take a vaccine rushed to production, for a highly politicized disease I'd survive if contracted, and for which the vaccine manufactures have managed to wrangle litigation immunity should complications from the vaccine arise. Color me a little skeptical.
Too bad the 'fire doesn't have a legal team to advise us. Imagine what would happen if the coerced employee, presented a document which stated that the corporation/employer could be held legally liable for any health complications arising from mandatory inoculation...and it needed to be signed by the employers representative before the employee complied. I imagine in the real world, the employer would find an excuse to can your ass. But it is a legal point, maybe.
I think it's looking more and more like the vaccine will eventually be mandated, if not by government, then by key entities like employers. I'm sure mandatory vaccination will become all the rage in large woke corporations and unfortunately, past legal precedence has generally sided with employers on the issue of mandatory vaccination. Not that it would matter in our new coronavirus world... laws, legal protections, etc are disregarded when inconvenient.
That aside, what can (if anything) be done to resist mandatory vaccinations particularly if employers start to require it as contingency for continued employment?
And no... I'm not an antivaxer but I'm also not in favor of being forced to take a vaccine rushed to production, for a highly politicized disease I'd survive if contracted, and for which the vaccine manufactures have managed to wrangle litigation immunity should complications from the vaccine arise. Color me a little skeptical.
If others feel they need it, have at it.
There is no scientific basis upon which to mandate vaccination, and quite a large scientific basis to state that mandating a vaccine for EVERYONE is murdering some percentage of them. So if your company, or your government, wants to mandate the murder of a percentage of their employees, I think that the tables should be turned.
Too bad the 'fire doesn't have a legal team to advise us. Imagine what would happen if the coerced employee, presented a document which stated that the corporation/employer could be held legally liable for any health complications arising from mandatory inoculation...and it needed to be signed by the employers representative before the employee complied. I imagine in the real world, the employer would find an excuse to can your ass. But it is a legal point, maybe.
In a right to work state such as Nebraska, the employer could fire your azz on the spot. No reason needed. Absolutely nothing you could do.
They will get around a vaccine mandate - by simply not allowing a person to fly, etc. without having a certificate of vaccination. Several other scenarios that could make life a real pain in the ass by not being able to "Show me ze papers!"
They will get around a vaccine mandate - by simply not allowing a person to fly, etc. without having a certificate of vaccination. Several other scenarios that could make life a real pain in the ass by not being able to "Show me ze papers!"
They are already implementing this but under the guise of "international" flights. Won't be long before its domestic
Meh... There's mandatory vaccines when ya join the military.. There's mandatory vaccines for most kids in school - especially decades ago, ala Chicken Pox, Rubella, Polio, mumps, measles etc etc...
Somehow, the vast majority of us lived.. No matter what vaccine is taken, there's ALWAYS a slight risk that some will develop some side effect to a degree... FWIW
I think they shouldn't be able to tell me what to do with my own body.
Pro-choice. My body, my choice. The left should understand and accept that.
They DO...... when it comes to killing helpless children. They are 4 that. When it comes to you and me, what do you think they want?
Very late term abortions.
You betcha Shooter. I saw the death propaganda booklets in the ICU waiting room at the VA as they performed one of those on a vet who was a better man than the whole department.
one ran a 103 fever for two days after receiving the vaccine, felt like death another got "covid induced pneumonia" after receiving the vaccine.
There's other reports of that too..... including a friend and former member of our congregation. She was injected with that experimental drug they call a vaccine. Next thing you know she has a case of pneumonia. I reported it here on the camp fire and just got a bunch of guys that trust, work for gvt /pharma, or have investment in these troll me saying, it's impossible.
If you, I and others don't speak out, nobody will know about the possible consequences of this injectable toxin. Keep spreading the word.
There is some pretty convincing information available that indicates the HIV//AIDS epidemic may have begun in the 1950s in equatorial Africa with polio vaccine created by using [bleep] tissue. I'm going to wait this one out. As to all these folks getting mandatory vaccines in the military, that's one reason I wanted no part of it. To hell with a job you can't quit and go home.
My response? No. Even if I'm fired. No. Even if I no longer have access to my money. No. Even if I cannot fly on a plane (not that I am going to anyway). No. Even if I cannot go into a store. No. Even if I cannot go into a restaurant. No. Even if I cannot buy nor sell. No. Even under threat of force. No.
Meh... There's mandatory vaccines when ya join the military.. There's mandatory vaccines for most kids in school - especially decades ago, ala Chicken Pox, Rubella, Polio, mumps, measles etc etc...
Somehow, the vast majority of us lived.. No matter what vaccine is taken, there's ALWAYS a slight risk that some will develop some side effect to a degree... FWIW
I'm not in the military and those diseases weren't super politicized with a rushed vaccine.
I thought a woman’s body was hers to choose what she does with it? Be hard for the pro abortion advocates to explain why govt mandating what you do with your body is ok.
That aside, what can (if anything) be done to resist mandatory vaccinations particularly if employers start to require it as contingency for continued employment?
I half expect to be in that position. I am going to skip the Pfizer "vaccine" because it is not a vaccine, it is genetic engineering of a sort we have never done to humans on a large scale, it's been done rushed without safety protocols and time for them to be effective, and the maker has been granted immunity to liability. Instead, I am going to wait until we have a real vaccine developed using proven methods as used for flu, measles, etc vaccines. In the mean time, I'm comfortable relying on treatments rather than prevention. We have a number of medications which, though off-label for COVID-19, are proving effective treating it AND these are medications with decades-long track records for safety because they are approved and have been through appropriate trials. The neat thing is we don't need to re-test them for safety, that's been established, so the only testing needed is for effectiveness.
There is no scientific basis upon which to mandate vaccination, and quite a large scientific basis to state that mandating a vaccine for EVERYONE is murdering some percentage of them. So if your company, or your government, wants to mandate the murder of a percentage of their employees, I think that the tables should be turned.
If you are in the military you can refuse the vaccine as of now, on the grounds that it is not FDA approved. Don't know how long that will last, but that is the current situation. I know this to be a fact.
I'm sure there will be lots of entrepreneurs who will gladly exchange a brick of .22 shells for fake credentials showing you to be a recipient of any vaccination you desire.
Too bad the 'fire doesn't have a legal team to advise us. Imagine what would happen if the coerced employee, presented a document which stated that the corporation/employer could be held legally liable for any health complications arising from mandatory inoculation...and it needed to be signed by the employers representative before the employee complied. I imagine in the real world, the employer would find an excuse to can your ass. But it is a legal point, maybe.
In a right to work state such as Nebraska, the employer could fire your azz on the spot. No reason needed. Absolutely nothing you could do.
As an employer several occasions here in NV, I wouldn't have it any other way. It's my business at risk, not the employee's, not the State's. All I owe is a decent wage paid for like quality work.
During a real pandemic I would probably mandate that my employees get vaccinated as a requisite to work for me. I would also no doubt pay for the vaccinations.
You can worry your little selves with this once they get everyone that wants the vaccination done. With our governments involvement it's quite doubtful you will need to concern yourself in this lifetime.
I was offered the vaccine today. Every person in my office went and got it and I declined. They were all excited for it. Odd how there are two schools of thought on it. You're either giddy or "nope."
There's all kinds of required things that they have in store for us. Not if but when.
The chinese cities use social credit scores and millions of cameras.
France now uses "collars" or necklaces" in the work places.
Singapore has their version.
As to injections, that is the step that they have plans to roll out after the next Scamdemic.
I'm pretty sure that anyone who's enough of a loser to wear that watch, will have no problems with people staying away.
That's what some employers require now....read luv2safaris post. Later it will go from some oversized Fisher Price toy looking piece of plastic to something most will say "At least it's not THAT thing!". Eventually the Quantum Dot will be promoted as the trendy thing all of the unbelievers have to have, while the others can die. That's their plan.
I fully expect that Social security and Medicare recipients will be required to get it or lose our benefits in the very near future. If/when that happens, I don't see any way to avoid it.
You can worry your little selves with this once they get everyone that wants the vaccination done. With our governments involvement it's quite doubtful you will need to concern yourself in this lifetime.
True particularly given the incompetence of biden and his voters.
I fully expect that Social security and Medicare recipients will be required to get it or lose our benefits in the very near future. If/when that happens, I don't see any way to avoid it.
My response? No. Even if I'm fired. No. Even if I no longer have access to my money. No. Even if I cannot fly on a plane (not that I am going to anyway). No. Even if I cannot go into a store. No. Even if I cannot go into a restaurant. No. Even if I cannot buy nor sell. No. Even under threat of force. No.
Actually, not just "no", but "HELL NO".
If you don't want to take the vaccine your solution is simple. Refuse to take it, contract Covid, and die. And then you won't post anymore nonsense.
My response? No. Even if I'm fired. No. Even if I no longer have access to my money. No. Even if I cannot fly on a plane (not that I am going to anyway). No. Even if I cannot go into a store. No. Even if I cannot go into a restaurant. No. Even if I cannot buy nor sell. No. Even under threat of force. No.
Actually, not just "no", but "HELL NO".
If you don't want to take the vaccine your solution is simple. Refuse to take it, contract Covid, and die. And then you won't post anymore nonsense.
I was offered the vaccine today. Every person in my office went and got it and I declined. They were all excited for it. Odd how there are two schools of thought on it. You're either giddy or "nope."
Good for you!
Hang in there when the real pressure comes. The chinese already set up massive concentration camps for dissidents. Watch infowars after 3pm (central time i believe). Alex is covering the US deep state plans for the same here.
There is no scientific basis upon which to mandate vaccination
I didn't know they had scientists in Elk, Montana.
How about double-blind clinical trials showing 95% effectiveness? That's not scientific evidence? Do you even know what that means?
I hope you are able to avoid the vaccine, because that would raise the average IQ of the gene pool.
Again, I'm amazed.
There is zero science in the covid narrative. I can make statistics (trials) show anything someone pays me money to show. If you want to call that "science", that's on you.
You don't know what science is, nor do you know what evidence is. I can assert this simply based on the ignorance and idiocy of your statements.
I have an IQ tested by the Head of the Utah Psychology Association back in 2002, and verified to be over 3.5 SD above the mean. Do you know what that means?
I'm sure there will be lots of entrepreneurs who will gladly exchange a brick of .22 shells for fake credentials showing you to be a recipient of any vaccination you desire.
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