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Posted By: stxhunter Nuke plant - 02/18/21
on Matagorda bay being brought back online.
Posted By: OldHat Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
How long has it been down?
Posted By: HoosierHawk Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Nuclear power is the true green energy.
Posted By: OldHat Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Don't worry ... [bleep] never happens.

Posted By: OutlawPatriot Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
Nuclear power is the true green energy.

It's at least the green energy that has some balls.
Posted By: Squidge Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OldHat
How long has it been down?


https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/co...126430a-709a-11eb-a770-cb3d1f5f9219.html

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About 5:30 a.m. Monday, workers at the South Texas Nuclear Project shutdown the Unit 1 reactor because of freezing water, said Matagorda County Judge Nate McDonald.

The reactor has a 1,350 megawatt generation capacity and was expected to come back online at about 10 p.m. Tuesday. The full generating capacity cannot be reached immediately as it needs to “coast back up” to a normal generating level while workers monitor the reactor.
Posted By: OutlawPatriot Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OldHat
Don't worry ... [bleep] never happens.


That's what happens when you have commies doing shots of vodka at the reactor operator console.
Posted By: antlers Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Evidently one of the two reactors at the plant had to be taken offline on Monday due to some weather related problems. Hopefully crankin’ that one back up again will help out a bunch. There’s still well over a million people in the Houston metro that are still without any power at all, and they’ve been like that since Sunday.
Posted By: OldHat Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Originally Posted by OldHat
Don't worry ... [bleep] never happens.


That's what happens when you have commies doing shots of vodka at the reactor operator console.


Like I said ... don't worry nothing every goes wrong, just ask the Japanese.
Posted By: OldHat Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Frozen pipes at a nuclear reactor. Never would of thought it.
Posted By: Daveinjax Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
Nuclear power is the true green energy.

This ^^^^^!!!! If you believe in global warming then you should support Nuclear power 100% ! A modern Nuclear plant is as close to 100% safe as anything human made is going to get. Some of the early designs from the birth of the Nuclear industry were not as safe and bad human decision making could more easily cause failure. With a modern design you would really have to work at it to get the containment to fail.
We could also develop thorium salt reactors that would be even safer because a runaway reaction wouldn’t be possible.
Posted By: HoosierHawk Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Comparing Soviet nuclear plants to western designs is like comparing a flintlock to an M-16.

When East and West Germany reunited, the West German energy regulatory officials shut down and mothballed all East German nuclear plants as soon as practical, due to their unsafe designs.

What happened at Chernobyl to cause that disaster is essentially the same as what happened at Three Mile Island (TMI). A partial reactor core meltdown caused by operator error.

The results were vastly different.
Posted By: antlers Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OldHat
Frozen pipes at a nuclear reactor. Never would of thought it.
Doubt the frozen pipes were discharge lines. There’s a bigass reservoir there (7,000 acres) and that plant doesn’t have cooling towers.
Posted By: Daveinjax Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Originally Posted by OldHat
Don't worry ... [bleep] never happens.


That's what happens when you have commies doing shots of vodka at the reactor operator console.


Like I said ... don't worry nothing every goes wrong, just ask the Japanese.

The Japanese plant disaster was a failure of human decision making. The plant was designed to withstand a magnitude 7 earthquake and it was well understood that the area could experience a higher magnitude earthquake. Then to compound that bad decision the Japanese decided due to sensitivity to taking farm land that they would build the backup emergency generators on that shelf way down low on the water. Despite the magnitude 9 earthquake the plant could have avoided catastrophic failure if the backup generation hadn’t been destroyed by the tsunami generated by the earthquake. GE had tried to get Tokyo Electric to upgrade the plant to resist a higher magnitude earthquake but the Japanese balked at the costs and gambled that they wouldn’t get a big quake in the lifetime of the plant.
Chernobyl was just a dangerous design from the early days that was a disaster waiting to happen and it’s other reactors still are. The bad design was compounded by the management of the Soviet Union.
Posted By: OldHat Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Ya, nothing will ever go wrong with our nuke reactors. We can protect our self with engineering miracles. LOL
Posted By: HoosierHawk Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
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Designs don't matter. Comparing them is a red herring. You can't change the fact that the stuff in those reactors is ABSOLUTELY antithetical to anything living. No engineering miracle can change that.

The world is not ordered and proper. Things don;t happen according to plans. People don't act in good faith.

Wake the up.




Ummm..... No, designs DO matter. They matter quite a lot, actually.

That "stuff" as you call it (Uranium-235) is more natural and no more nor less "antithetical to anything living" (whatever that means) than that deadly, dangerous toxin you fill your car's fuel tank up with.

U-235 is a naturally occurring element. Humans have learned to harness it's fissile power to generate heat, which heats up water to make steam that is then used to turn electrical generating turbines.

A nuclear reactor is essentially a hot rock that boils water. It's not some magical, evil thing that we don't understand.

Good Lord.

Posted By: stxhunter Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OldHat
How long has it been down?
not sure.
Posted By: OutlawPatriot Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OldHat
Ya, nothing will ever go wrong with our nuke reactors. We can protect our self with engineering miracles. LOL

No not LOL. I went through the Navy nuclear power program and got a Master's degree in mechanical engineering with an emphasis in reactor physics. I can tell you that modern day nuclear plant design is about 1,000x safer than it was 40 years ago, when some of the current plants were designed. Explain to us your level of expertise in the subject matter please.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
Nuclear power is the true green energy.
With the latest technology, it's probably the safest, too. Waste has always been the problem. My nephew did his engineering Phd work on tying up waste in glass for permanent storage. That's what's being done now. I don't know the process but they grind up the waste and imbed it in glass rods. It's impervious to water and never deteriorates. If the glass shatters, it doesn't matter. It's still glass, just in smaller pieces. It's the safest storage known at this time.

Nukes can be extremely small now, too. Another of my nephew's projects is a tiny nuke generator, currently powering the last rover landed on Mars.
Posted By: tdbob Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
I wish they made them modular. Keep the containment building and be able to replace the reactor vessel and the steam generator when they wear out.
Posted By: Daveinjax Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Originally Posted by OldHat
Ya, nothing will ever go wrong with our nuke reactors. We can protect our self with engineering miracles. LOL

No not LOL. I went through the Navy nuclear power program and got a Master's degree in mechanical engineering with an emphasis in reactor physics. I can tell you that modern day nuclear plant design is about 1,000x safer than it was 40 years ago, when some of the current plants were designed. Explain to us your level of expertise in the subject matter please.

This ^^^. It’s a tragedy that what most people know about nuclear energy is based on long past technology. The anti nuclear people have won the propaganda war and instilled ignorance in the public that will cripple civilization. There is no reason whatsoever that we should be burning fossil fuels to generate our base electricity.
Posted By: hanco Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
No wonder we had no power!
Posted By: RufusG Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OldHat
Ya, nothing will ever go wrong with our nuke reactors. We can protect our self with engineering miracles. LOL



Sixty years of commercial nuclear operation in the US now. Zero nuclear-related fatalities. That is all.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OldHat
Ya, nothing will ever go wrong with our nuke reactors. We can protect our self with engineering miracles. LOL



So, would you be better off dead form the globalists Agenda 21plan to depopulate the earth?
Posted By: Theoldpinecricker Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Theres been nuclear related deaths in the US. Its been in stoage and remediation of by-products and waste. Think. Hanford.
Posted By: RufusG Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by Theoldpinecricker
Theres been nuclear related deaths in the US. Its been in stoage and remediation of by-products and waste. Think. Hanford.


Hanford was bombs. Not commercial nuclear generation.
Posted By: Stickfight Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by OldHat
Don't worry ... [bleep] never happens.



That shot where they are scrubbing down General Pikalov wearing his GP-5.....pure kino.

And the whole series was a good general lesson about why communists should be thrown from helicopters.
Posted By: OutlawPatriot Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by OldHat
Ya, nothing will ever go wrong with our nuke reactors. We can protect our self with engineering miracles. LOL

So, would you be better off dead form the globalists Agenda 21plan to depopulate the earth?

Or wish you were dead after the "progressive" agenda strips us of all our rights and liberties.
Posted By: saddlering Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
I did 10 years in a nuclear power plant, the Public dont get to hear everything that happens in one! Lots of hush hush stuff goes on. One reason I moved I moved 250 miles, up wind.
Posted By: Rifles And More Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by saddlering
I did 10 years in a nuclear power plant, the Public dont get to hear everything that happens in one! Lots of hush hush stuff goes on. One reason I moved I moved 250 miles, up wind.


It is your duty to share that info with the NRC. Are you jeopardizing the health and safety of the public??

...or are you just full of shiit?
Posted By: JakeBlues Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
I spent a year working in close proximity of a reactor and my dosimeter readings for a year showed less radiation exposure than a surfer in LA gets in July.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
I spent a year working in close proximity of a reactor and my dosimeter readings for a year showed less radiation exposure than a surfer in LA gets in July.


None of it’s dangerous as long as you keep it in the pipes.
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
I spent a year working in close proximity of a reactor and my dosimeter readings for a year showed less radiation exposure than a surfer in LA gets in July.


But, but, your Dick fell off...

😜🦫
Posted By: Johnny Dollar Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
How many people died trying to keep warm, in Texas, during this week of cold weather?


How many people have died, in America, from nuclear power accidents in the last 60+ years?
Posted By: saddlesore Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
I spent a year working in close proximity of a reactor and my dosimeter readings for a year showed less radiation exposure than a surfer in LA gets in July.


None of it’s dangerous as long as you keep it in the pipes.


Yea,I spent 30 years working Underground Nuclear test in Nevada. My dosimeter read a lot more than nuke plant workers. I was barred from NTS for a year becasue I had over my yearly permitted dose.I have had lot of coworkers die from all that work.I could relate some real horror stories about that.
Posted By: victoro Re: Nuke plant - 02/18/21
"How many people died trying to keep warm, in Texas, during this week of cold weather?. "

The MSM is keeping very quiet about the deaths in Texas. If Trump was till President it would on the MSM news 24/7.
Posted By: NM_ElkNut Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
Carbon free baseload power since 1958. I'm a fan.
Posted By: Tarkio Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Originally Posted by OldHat
Ya, nothing will ever go wrong with our nuke reactors. We can protect our self with engineering miracles. LOL

No not LOL. I went through the Navy nuclear power program and got a Master's degree in mechanical engineering with an emphasis in reactor physics. I can tell you that modern day nuclear plant design is about 1,000x safer than it was 40 years ago, when some of the current plants were designed. Explain to us your level of expertise in the subject matter please.



THE ULTIMATE MIC DROP


Kudos OutlawPatriot
Posted By: Daveinjax Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
Originally Posted by saddlesore
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
I spent a year working in close proximity of a reactor and my dosimeter readings for a year showed less radiation exposure than a surfer in LA gets in July.


None of it’s dangerous as long as you keep it in the pipes.


Yea,I spent 30 years working Underground Nuclear test in Nevada. My dosimeter read a lot more than nuke plant workers. I was barred from NTS for a year becasue I had over my yearly permitted dose.I have had lot of coworkers die from all that work.I could relate some real horror stories about that.

What does working in an underground nuclear test facility have to do with the safety of a modern nuclear power plant ? I’m not being flippant about this either. A good friends dad died from cancer most likely from working on nuclear weapons. You may have known Mr Leak ?
Posted By: TimberRunner Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
I'm on board. Nuclear from one shining sea to the next.
Posted By: Richdeerhunter Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
My son was a Navy nuke and wore gold dolphins. He now works making electricity. He said his plant is more efficient in cold weather. Think about how many nuclear submarines the US Navy has/has had without a K19 or Chernobyl, thanks to Admiral Rickover.
Posted By: Rifles And More Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
You can’t turn a screw in a nuke plant unless it has been planned 20 weeks out, approved by several departments and you have a procedure in hand telling you how to do it.
Posted By: blindshooter Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
Originally Posted by Rifles And More
You can’t turn a screw in a nuke plant unless it has been planned 20 weeks out, approved by several departments and you have a procedure in hand telling you how to do it.



I fixed what amounted to fancy office equipment in two different plants. Even that stuff had to be backed up and tested. I'd spend 2 months on 24hr call for refuel outages. We couldn't get contracts unless we had multiple techs certified and all had to have and keep current un escorted access.
Everything I was involved in had layers of redundancy and I won't near anything really important.

I loved working in those plants. Cleanest environment and the best people I ever worked with.

I'd vote for nuke power every time.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
Coal...barf

Fission nukes....OK, but there be a fair bit if baggage that goes with it.

Fusion....I will be favorably impressed when they figure that one out.
Posted By: HoosierHawk Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
The growing energy demands of the world's population cannot be met without reliance on fossil fuels until the "next big leap" in technology happens. By next big leap, I'm talking about truly societal changing things like the steam engine, the electrical generator, and the internal combustion engine.

Maybe it's fusion. Maybe it's hydrogen cells. Maybe it's something else nobody outside of research labs is talking about right now.

But until that happens, humanity will need to refine oil and burn coal and natural gas as far as the eye can see into the future.

Wind and solar can't replace them now, and never will.
Posted By: gonehuntin Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
I've always read that the Navy brags that they can dock a submarine and hook up to a cities power grid and supply power:

HOW COME JOE BIDEN DIDN'T SEND TWO OR THREE SUBMARINES TO THE TEXAS COASTAL CITIES?????
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
I've always read that the Navy brags that they can dock a submarine and hook up to a cities power grid and supply power:

HOW COME JOE BIDEN DIDN'T SEND TWO OR THREE SUBMARINES TO THE TEXAS COASTAL CITIES?????


Because he just learned of the existence of underwater craft last week!!

Remember the "Turtle"?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_(submersible)
Posted By: Rifles And More Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
I've always read that the Navy brags that they can dock a submarine and hook up to a cities power grid and supply power:

HOW COME JOE BIDEN DIDN'T SEND TWO OR THREE SUBMARINES TO THE TEXAS COASTAL CITIES?????


They are all off the coast of DC protecting him right now...
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
The growing energy demands of the world's population cannot be met without reliance on fossil fuels until the "next big leap" in technology happens. By next big leap, I'm talking about truly societal changing things like the steam engine, the electrical generator, and the internal combustion engine.

Maybe it's fusion. Maybe it's hydrogen cells. Maybe it's something else nobody outside of research labs is talking about right now.

But until that happens, humanity will need to refine oil and burn coal and natural gas as far as the eye can see into the future.

Wind and solar can't replace them now, and never will.



In small part I disagree with your thoughts on coal/gas. Yes, we will continue to rely on fossil fuels for quite awhile, but there are better alternatives. We simply do not have the technology in place to make them happen.

Pardon by drivel, but........

-I'm of the opinion that over the LONG term that fossil fuels are too valuable to burn in one sense, and on another too messy to burn as well. Ex: Coal is used to make nylon and likely a fair number of other products. Burning it for power creates massive amount of waste that are problematic at best. Oil is more productive for synthetics yet more difficult to replace for transportation.
-It's hard to replace fuel oils easily, but it can be done. EX: As I recall the Jet Propulsion Lab demonstrated that commercial jets could fly with the use of hydrogen slush fuel back in the mid '80s. They got a lot more bang/gallon with slush than JP4 and the only byproduct is water vapor. Barriers? Well, distribution and storage come to mind. AKA: Infrastructure. Some years ago Honda did a test program on the west coast with fuel cell powered cars. I don't know what their findings were, but recall they got absurdly long range from a very small amount of fuel/hydrogen. Something like 150+ MPG. Downside? Well, they won't burn in an accident, but will be prone to detonation.
-Solar and wind power are hampered by a couple of issues: The former doesn't work at night and the latter needs wind. Wind is prevalent on a regional basis in North America. For example, Wyoming has a lot more than Florida, hurricanes excluded of course. Perhaps solar could be used to produce hydrogen near coastal oceans?
-In any case our air transport industry is NEVER going to run on solar cells on the aircraft. Electric cars may be OK for local use but they are a non-starter for long distance travel. Likewise for buses and trains unless they revert of electric tracks (unlikely) or overhead power cables....also unlikely.

Bottom line is that we don't have an unlimited supply of fossil fuels here on planet Earth and had best be looking for alternatives, pronto.
Posted By: Magnum_Bob Re: Nuke plant - 02/19/21
Don't know much about nuke subs maybe get Rednecks opinion on there capabilities but IIRC Dubya sent one of our aircraft carriers to some natural disaster over in the Indian Ocean area and they docked it to provide emergency medical help, electrical energy and tremendous amount of people food and water till that country could help themselves
The whole time the MSM fu*ks were giving him sh*t for sending a aircraft carrier when they thought he should just send bags of rice or some sh*t. Then some admiral type politely told them to sit down and shut the f*ck up while he politely explained the width and depth of an aircraft carriers ability to deliver humanitarian aid to the afflicted area. You really expect someone suffering from dementia and Alsheimers to know what is our militaries capabilities are? If you do your as damned dumb as the asswipes that actually voted for the turd. JC
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