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Posted By: JakeBlues 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/08/21
"Shall not be infringed" sounds kinda absolute to me.

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President Biden unveiled executive orders on gun control on Thursday, at a press conference in the White House Rose Garden.

Nothing I’m about to recommend in any way impinges on the Second Amendment,” Biden said. “They’re phony arguments suggesting that these are Second Amendment rights in what we’re talking about.”

Biden added that “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute".

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-announces-gun-control-executive-161114890.html


Me too but we’re just dummies that need “great legal minds” on the SC to interpret plain English to us.
Posted By: DMc Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,



What you call good reason might be called foolishness by others (such as folks with gonads).
Old Sleepy Joe and his gang are committing suicide. Hope it hurts deeply.

The 2022 election will be an adventure.

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Biden added that “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute".


It’s called the Bill of Rights. It was ratified in 1791.
Tucker Carlson is DESTROYING the BidenDemonrat
Assault on the 2nd Amendment on FOX as I’m typing it
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,



What you call good reason might be called foolishness by others (such as folks with gonads).

You seem to be missing his point and unfortunately the “gonads” are mostly on the left.
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,



What you call good reason might be called foolishness by others (such as folks with gonads).


Maybe, quite possibly, you heard that the last presidential election and some state elections were suspected of being stolen ?

No?

Careful you don’t come down with a case of the blue balls.
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,



What you call good reason might be called foolishness by others (such as folks with gonads).

You seem to be missing his point and unfortunately the “gonads” are mostly on the left.



Maybe you should speak for yourself...or at least refrain from speaking for the rest of us.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,



What you call good reason might be called foolishness by others (such as folks with gonads).


Maybe, quite possibly, you heard that the last presidential election and some state elections were suspected of being stolen ?

No?

Careful you don’t come down with a case of the blue balls.



Have you ever resisted the urge to piss in any single punchbowl you ever saw at a party?
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,



What you call good reason might be called foolishness by others (such as folks with gonads).

You seem to be missing his point and unfortunately the “gonads” are mostly on the left.



Maybe you should speak for yourself...or at least refrain from speaking for the rest of us.

What have you done to make a difference? Honest question.

You might have balls that drag the floor but from riots, to taking over the edu system, to taking over media (making it their propaganda wing) to big businesses and most of government I stand by my statement that most of the balls have been on the side of the left.
The entire constitution is in no way absolute.

It is our responsibility to keep it so!
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,



What you call good reason might be called foolishness by others (such as folks with gonads).

You seem to be missing his point and unfortunately the “gonads” are mostly on the left.



Maybe you should speak for yourself...or at least refrain from speaking for the rest of us.

What have you done to make a difference? Honest question.


How about you? Seems we are waiting for the other shoe to drop.
This country is on the edge and is being run by a moron no one believes in legitimate, it's only going to take a nudge to get the party started.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,



What you call good reason might be called foolishness by others (such as folks with gonads).

You seem to be missing his point and unfortunately the “gonads” are mostly on the left.



Maybe you should speak for yourself...or at least refrain from speaking for the rest of us.

What have you done to make a difference? Honest question.


How about you? Seems we are waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I vote, donate to worthy groups and causes. I raise my kids right and avoid companies that flaunt “values” that I disagree with. I do what I can. Is it enough IDK it doesn’t look like it but if we all had that mentality we’d be further ahead. I do know that pretending that we’re tough guys and winning while the left takes all of the action and better understands the game, that it isn’t about fist or guns is a losing bet for us.
This is certainly nothing new. The gov't. and SCOTUS have obviously been operating under that assumtion for over 100 years. Otherwise there wouldn't be thousands of "gun laws" on the books, GCA '34, GCA '68, NICS and 4473's wouldn't exist, you'd still be able to order a gun and have it delivered to your door and the BATFE would just be BATE.
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


For good reasons they have no fears,



What you call good reason might be called foolishness by others (such as folks with gonads).


Maybe, quite possibly, you heard that the last presidential election and some state elections were suspected of being stolen ?

No?

Careful you don’t come down with a case of the blue balls.



Have you ever resisted the urge to piss in any single punchbowl you ever saw at a party?



Reality is a bitch at times. You seem to ignore the present state of affairs in this Nation In favor of how you want it to be. I’m good with that if you are so have at it.

Now....if that’s pissing in the punch bowl to you , just pass on sipping punch or better yet learn how to use Ignore. Ain’t hard.
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
The entire constitution is in no way absolute.

It is our responsibility to keep it so!

We've certainly failed miserably in that responsibility.
Posted By: Pat85 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by DigitalDan


The 2022 election will be an adventure.


They ousted the most popular President ever with election fraud in 2020, 2022 will be a breeze.
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Honest question.





My ass.
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Honest question.





My ass.


Evidently it’s what you think with.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Honest question.





My ass.


Evidently it’s what you think with.


Still waiting to see something of value come from you.
Posted By: RickyD Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
"Shall not be infringed" sounds kinda absolute to me.

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President Biden unveiled executive orders on gun control on Thursday, at a press conference in the White House Rose Garden.

Nothing I’m about to recommend in any way impinges on the Second Amendment,” Biden said. “They’re phony arguments suggesting that these are Second Amendment rights in what we’re talking about.”

Biden added that “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute".

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-announces-gun-control-executive-161114890.html


The Constitution’s Article V requires that an amendment be proposed by two-thirds of the House and Senate, or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the state legislatures. In either case is up to the states to approve a new amendment, with three-quarters of the states voting to ratifying it.

It will never happen unless we do it by rigged voting machines. Divest yourself of lieberal demoncraps.
I keep hearing that another Republican will never win an election. I disagree. They’ll be watered down corporate RINO Republicans that keep moving further left but they’ll win a few. It’s been pointed out that JFK a left winger for his time was more conservative than most Republicans today. RINO’s will still “win” some elections for those hung up on Republicans Vs. Democrats they just won’t be America first closed borders conservatives. Republican politicians have been moving further left for decades the same as Democrat politicians.
Posted By: Cretch Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
The entire constitution is in no way absolute.

It is our responsibility to keep it so!




Absolutely. And Biden took an oath to defend it. Not a surprise he even lied during the oath.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Honest question.





My ass.


Evidently it’s what you think with.


Still waiting to see something of value come from you.


Try Ignore if it bothers your racist ass.
Even you can do it.
Posted By: RickyD Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
I keep hearing that another Republican will never win an election. I disagree. They’ll be watered down corporate RINO Republicans that keep moving further left but they’ll win a few. It’s been pointed out that JFK a left winger for his time was more conservative than most Republicans today. RINO’s will still “win” some elections for those hung up on Republicans Vs. Democrats they just won’t be America first closed borders conservatives. Republican politicians have been moving further left for decades the same as Democrat politicians.
I don't know who got you to believe that drivel but it's BS. And tell me just what good it will do if a RINO is ever elected again. Traitors are traitors! Haven't you figured that out yet? The ONLY way we will win more elections is to put the demoncraps in the ground. Once a venomous snake gets into a house he has to be destroyed before a family can live that house. Cut the head off every poisonous snake in America, and start NOW.
Originally Posted by Pat85
Originally Posted by DigitalDan


The 2022 election will be an adventure.


They ousted the most popular President ever with election fraud in 2020, 2022 will be a breeze.


Yep.
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
I keep hearing that another Republican will never win an election. I disagree. They’ll be watered down corporate RINO Republicans that keep moving further left but they’ll win a few. It’s been pointed out that JFK a left winger for his time was more conservative than most Republicans today. RINO’s will still “win” some elections for those hung up on Republicans Vs. Democrats they just won’t be America first closed borders conservatives. Republican politicians have been moving further left for decades the same as Democrat politicians.
I don't know who got you to believe that drivel but it's BS. And tell me just what good it will do if a RINO is ever elected again. Traitors are traitors! Haven't you figured that out yet? The ONLY way we will win more elections is to put the demoncraps in the ground. Once a venomous snake gets into a house he has to be destroyed before a family can live that house. Cut the head off every poisonous snake in America, and start NOW.



Nice.
How would you go about this dismantling of the democrat party and cutting off snake heads?
Posted By: kappa8 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
The 10 Commandments mean the same thing to me today at 58yo as they did when I was 10 years old.

So does the Second Amendment.

What part of "shall not be infringed" is confusing?
This thing was in the works before November 2020 the dems had it figured out after the the covid scam cheat the election and use executive orders should have stocked up on primers and powder beforehand
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
I keep hearing that another Republican will never win an election. I disagree. They’ll be watered down corporate RINO Republicans that keep moving further left but they’ll win a few. It’s been pointed out that JFK a left winger for his time was more conservative than most Republicans today. RINO’s will still “win” some elections for those hung up on Republicans Vs. Democrats they just won’t be America first closed borders conservatives. Republican politicians have been moving further left for decades the same as Democrat politicians.
I don't know who got you to believe that drivel but it's BS. And tell me just what good it will do if a RINO is ever elected again. Traitors are traitors! Haven't you figured that out yet? The ONLY way we will win more elections is to put the demoncraps in the ground. Once a venomous snake gets into a house he has to be destroyed before a family can live that house. Cut the head off every poisonous snake in America, and start NOW.

Of course RINO’s are garbage. I’m not supporting RINO’s as a good thing only the fact that the commies will allow commie lights (RINO’s) to win the occasional election.

Commies have mostly taken over this country and they did it with minimal killing (as compared to the civil war that the right likes to talk about). We ain’t killing but they most certainly are winning and it’s mostly white folks like you and me leading the charge to make us left. The left stole most of our Republic and made it very near a democracy next they took over the media and made it there propaganda wing. Near full control of the educational system and media/propaganda is how you win a culture war. Not enough of us have figured that out.
Originally Posted by kappa8
The 10 Commandments mean the same thing to me today at 58yo as they did when I was 10 years old.

So does the Second Amendment.

What part of "shall not be infringed" is confusing?



Kappa, they’ll spin the crap out of that, eg., you like your flintlocks, you can keep your flintlocks and as many as you want.

They already regulate class 3 and we see what various states have enacted as to what’s legal and what ain’t.

The fight is coming on this and many have little faith in which way the scotus would rule.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
I keep hearing that another Republican will never win an election. I disagree. They’ll be watered down corporate RINO Republicans that keep moving further left but they’ll win a few. It’s been pointed out that JFK a left winger for his time was more conservative than most Republicans today. RINO’s will still “win” some elections for those hung up on Republicans Vs. Democrats they just won’t be America first closed borders conservatives. Republican politicians have been moving further left for decades the same as Democrat politicians.
I don't know who got you to believe that drivel but it's BS. And tell me just what good it will do if a RINO is ever elected again. Traitors are traitors! Haven't you figured that out yet? The ONLY way we will win more elections is to put the demoncraps in the ground. Once a venomous snake gets into a house he has to be destroyed before a family can live that house. Cut the head off every poisonous snake in America, and start NOW.



Nice.
How would you go about this dismantling of the democrat party and cutting off snake heads?


He's absolutely right in his thoughts Toot. There is no way we can change the mindset of these people. They will look us straight in the eye and tell us they have seen that we need a say in things then turn right around and stab us in the back all over again. They are akin to a sheep killing dog. You can't reform that dog or hope he'll change. You can't beat the desire out of him after he's tasted blood. No you have to kill the dog. biden and his ilk are the sheep killing dogs. Unless God does something to change the course of all of this we will have to take freedom back by force and that may very well be what God's plan is. It happened once and it can happen again.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Honest question.





My ass.


Evidently it’s what you think with.


Still waiting to see something of value come from you.


Try Ignore if it bothers your racist ass.
Even you can do it.


Always interesting to watch a racist jackass Jew in action.
War is coming. Know who and where the enemy is in your backyard.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Honest question.





My ass.


Evidently it’s what you think with.


Still waiting to see something of value come from you.


Try Ignore if it bothers your racist ass.
Even you can do it.


Always interesting to watch a racist jackass Jew in action.



Happy to accommodate you, always.

Ask for help with Ignore.

Maybe you can’t do it and I gave you too much credit for thinking that you could.

Shalom.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by stevelyn
War is coming. Know who and where the enemy is in your backyard.

Absolutely! I was running through the list in my mind today.
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
I keep hearing that another Republican will never win an election. I disagree. They’ll be watered down corporate RINO Republicans that keep moving further left but they’ll win a few. It’s been pointed out that JFK a left winger for his time was more conservative than most Republicans today. RINO’s will still “win” some elections for those hung up on Republicans Vs. Democrats they just won’t be America first closed borders conservatives. Republican politicians have been moving further left for decades the same as Democrat politicians.
I don't know who got you to believe that drivel but it's BS. And tell me just what good it will do if a RINO is ever elected again. Traitors are traitors! Haven't you figured that out yet? The ONLY way we will win more elections is to put the demoncraps in the ground. Once a venomous snake gets into a house he has to be destroyed before a family can live that house. Cut the head off every poisonous snake in America, and start NOW.



Nice.
How would you go about this dismantling of the democrat party and cutting off snake heads?


He's absolutely right in his thoughts Toot. There is no way we can change the mindset of these people. They will look us straight in the eye and tell us they have seen that we need a say in things then turn right around and stab us in the back all over again. They are akin to a sheep killing dog. You can't reform that dog or hope he'll change. You can't beat the desire out of him after he's tasted blood. No you have to kill the dog. biden and his ilk are the sheep killing dogs. Unless God does something to change the course of all of this we will have to take freedom back by force and that may very well be what God's plan is. It happened once and it can happen again.



Jim, I think most rational people understand and believe what you’ve said but there is no concerted leadership for it to happen, presently.

Until that occurs we basically have what we now have and will have.
Jmo
Posted By: Mach3 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Our government is a joke and so is the ATF. I will not listen to a damn word they write or say.

It is a human right to defend yourself and your family no matter what type of force or weapon you need to use.

Shall not be infringed.
Originally Posted by Mach3
Our government is a joke and so is the ATF. I will not listen to a damn word they write or say.

It is a human right to defend yourself and your family no matter what type of force or weapon you need to use.

Shall not be infringed.


It sure works that way in the city of Chicago.

Exhibit A that we can learn from.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
I keep hearing that another Republican will never win an election. I disagree. They’ll be watered down corporate RINO Republicans that keep moving further left but they’ll win a few. It’s been pointed out that JFK a left winger for his time was more conservative than most Republicans today. RINO’s will still “win” some elections for those hung up on Republicans Vs. Democrats they just won’t be America first closed borders conservatives. Republican politicians have been moving further left for decades the same as Democrat politicians.
I don't know who got you to believe that drivel but it's BS. And tell me just what good it will do if a RINO is ever elected again. Traitors are traitors! Haven't you figured that out yet? The ONLY way we will win more elections is to put the demoncraps in the ground. Once a venomous snake gets into a house he has to be destroyed before a family can live that house. Cut the head off every poisonous snake in America, and start NOW.



Nice.
How would you go about this dismantling of the democrat party and cutting off snake heads?


He's absolutely right in his thoughts Toot. There is no way we can change the mindset of these people. They will look us straight in the eye and tell us they have seen that we need a say in things then turn right around and stab us in the back all over again. They are akin to a sheep killing dog. You can't reform that dog or hope he'll change. You can't beat the desire out of him after he's tasted blood. No you have to kill the dog. biden and his ilk are the sheep killing dogs. Unless God does something to change the course of all of this we will have to take freedom back by force and that may very well be what God's plan is. It happened once and it can happen again.



Jim, I think most rational people understand and believe what you’ve said but there is no concerted leadership for it to happen, presently.

Until that occurs we basically have what we now have and will have.
Jmo

Let's look at history. Men like Jefferson did. You're right about the leadership. How many times have we seen life play out and the leader steps forward when needed. I have faith this will happen. Who will it be, I have no idea. I can promise you that when that person does step up the following we saw behind president Trump will seem small compared to what this will be.
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
I keep hearing that another Republican will never win an election. I disagree. They’ll be watered down corporate RINO Republicans that keep moving further left but they’ll win a few. It’s been pointed out that JFK a left winger for his time was more conservative than most Republicans today. RINO’s will still “win” some elections for those hung up on Republicans Vs. Democrats they just won’t be America first closed borders conservatives. Republican politicians have been moving further left for decades the same as Democrat politicians.
I don't know who got you to believe that drivel but it's BS. And tell me just what good it will do if a RINO is ever elected again. Traitors are traitors! Haven't you figured that out yet? The ONLY way we will win more elections is to put the demoncraps in the ground. Once a venomous snake gets into a house he has to be destroyed before a family can live that house. Cut the head off every poisonous snake in America, and start NOW.



Nice.
How would you go about this dismantling of the democrat party and cutting off snake heads?


He's absolutely right in his thoughts Toot. There is no way we can change the mindset of these people. They will look us straight in the eye and tell us they have seen that we need a say in things then turn right around and stab us in the back all over again. They are akin to a sheep killing dog. You can't reform that dog or hope he'll change. You can't beat the desire out of him after he's tasted blood. No you have to kill the dog. biden and his ilk are the sheep killing dogs. Unless God does something to change the course of all of this we will have to take freedom back by force and that may very well be what God's plan is. It happened once and it can happen again.



Jim, I think most rational people understand and believe what you’ve said but there is no concerted leadership for it to happen, presently.

Until that occurs we basically have what we now have and will have.
Jmo

Let's look at history. Men like Jefferson did. You're right about the leadership. How many times have we seen life play out and the leader steps forward when needed. I have faith this will happen. Who will it be, I have no idea. I can promise you that when that person does step up the following we saw behind president Trump will seem small compared to what this will be.



Along those lines I’m hopeful that Trump has something in the works.

He’s been quiet lately.
Posted By: guy57 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Rickyd, and Jim1611 are right, there is only one way to get this country back. Can anyone name me a civilization that took back their corrupt government at the ballot box? t That's right, no you can't. The ruling class will NEVER give up power, it has to be taken from them. Although i agree that at this time we don't have a leader for what needs to happen.
He is thinking of the type of dog food his dogs eat.
Originally Posted by Blackheart
This is certainly nothing new. The gov't. and SCOTUS have obviously been operating under that assumtion for over 100 years. Otherwise there wouldn't be thousands of "gun laws" on the books, GCA '34, GCA '68, NICS and 4473's wouldn't exist, you'd still be able to order a gun and have it delivered to your door and the BATFE would just be BATE.
Just curious how many here would be alright with it if NONE of these gun laws existed ?
Posted By: IZH27 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
I haven't had time to watch the speech. Was he free form when he made the comment or reading the script?
Next up - the First Amendment is not absolute, either.
Let's see how the MSM responds to that upcoming episode!
Posted By: shootem Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
It’s getting time for a 10 million free men and women march on Washington. Very very close. If the Chinese puppet in the Whitehouse continues his course of action to directly contradict the Bill of Rights by illegal executive action the time will have come to refute the thieves, traitors and treasonists. We will be required to demand they resign their posts. This goes for anyone of any party affiliation that supports such action. Failure to adhere to the requirements of the Constitution by which this nation functions is tantamount to a declaration of war on the free people of the United States Of America. I will go. I will make myself seen. I will make myself heard. I will demand those who would render freedom a toothless tiger to vacate immediately or face eviction. Will you go?

In addition it must simultaneously be demanded of the Supreme Court, by their directors the free American citizens, that evidence implicating the theft of not only the 2020 presidential election, but the resulting theft of all elected Democrats sharing in the spoils of thievery and treason, he examined fully and publicly. Evidence obviously missing, defrauded, altered in any way must be construed as an illegal act to illegally install an illegal government. If such evidence proves conclusively the election was in any way illegally altered to give unearned votes to the Democrat party then the SCOTUS must declare the 2020 national election null and void and heavily monitored new elections must be held UNDER THE ORDER AND SCRUTINY OF THAT COURT.

WILL YOU GO? WILL YOU MARCH? WILL YOU REFUSE TO ALLOW YOUR COUNTRY TO BE TAKEN OVER BY ANARCHY?

I WILL GO!
The irony is that they are their own worst enemy on this issue. EVERYTHING they do causes gun ownership to rise. And the more they want to control it, the more people buy guns.
Posted By: shootem Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
The irony is that they are their own worst enemy on this issue. EVERYTHING they do causes gun ownership to rise. And the more they want to control it, the more people buy guns.


Key word. CONTROL. No armed citizenry can be truly controlled. All the rest is BS.
Posted By: duck911 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by JakeBlues


Biden added that “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute".


Then he should be OK with a bit of friendly slavery, premenstrual women not voting (just the bitchy ones), and torching the printing presses of the liberal mass news media??
Quote: "Biden added that “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute".

Tell that to the friggen' press. They act like the press clause in the 1A is absolute....and if they can think that about the 1A, we can about the 2A!
Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by JakeBlues


Biden added that “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute".


Then he should be OK with a bit of friendly slavery, premenstrual women not voting (just the bitchy ones), and torching the printing presses of the liberal mass news media??

Good one.
Ol’ dopey Joe’s highlights:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...rom-joe-bidens-gun-control-announcement/
Posted By: MM879 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
What do you expect from a Meth family?
Only the very smart can "interpret" shall not be, as can be.
Posted By: kappa8 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by kappa8
What part of "shall not be infringed" is confusing?


Kappa, they’ll spin the crap out of that, eg., you like your flintlocks, you can keep your flintlocks and as many as you want.

They already regulate class 3 and we see what various states have enacted as to what’s legal and what ain’t.

The fight is coming on this and many have little faith in which way the scotus would rule.


True that Toot. Similar to the way they are attempting to divide and conquer the citizenry by race/ethnicity/religion/sex/gender, they parse the Second Amendment for same reason. We don't need SCOTUS to explain what is and is not allowed under 2A. Shall not be infringed.

But here's the problem. Their divide & conquer strategy is working. There's enough sheeple who are indifferent to make the citizenry reliably weak. And for the insufficient number of patriots, they don't have to divide & conquer us. There's enough infighting on these forums that we've achieved the divide & conquer amongst ourselves for them.
Posted By: kappa8 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by benchman
Only the very smart can "interpret" shall not be, as can be.

Well, depends on what the meaning of "is" is. shocked
Originally Posted by kappa8
Originally Posted by benchman
Only the very smart can "interpret" shall not be, as can be.

Well, depends on what the meaning of "is" is. shocked

True....
Hmm,,,do you really think it's possible to repeal or change the 1st? Change it to a state mandated, or worse, outlaw religion entirely? (I know that's their real objective.) How about repealing the 3rd? Now you have to house and feed SS troops in your home. No more Miranda rights, no more right to a lawyer, no more search warrants, and no more jury trials- just secret proceedings. Change a single one of the Bill of Rights, and there is no more United States.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
"Shall not be infringed" sounds kinda absolute to me.

Quote
President Biden unveiled executive orders on gun control on Thursday, at a press conference in the White House Rose Garden.

Nothing I’m about to recommend in any way impinges on the Second Amendment,” Biden said. “They’re phony arguments suggesting that these are Second Amendment rights in what we’re talking about.”

Biden added that no amendment to the Constitution is absolute".

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-announces-gun-control-executive-161114890.html






Appears that your resident Whitehouse clown doesn't know his arse from apples.
Posted By: Redneck Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Eff 'Lyin Biden' and the HO....
Posted By: HawkI Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Ok then, Joe Biden being President certainly isn't absolute.

I'm thinking there's a majority that would agree....
Originally Posted by HawkI
Ok then, Joe Biden being President certainly isn't absolute.

I'm thinking there's a majority that would agree....

There has never been an election in the history of humanity that was more obviously stolen right in front of the eyes of the nation. They hardly tried to hide it, believing that a massive gaslighting campaign by their allies in the leftist-controlled MSM afterwards would suffice.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by HawkI
Ok then, Joe Biden being President certainly isn't absolute.

I'm thinking there's a majority that would agree....


Yeah, but it is not like their vote matters.


Apparently.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Blackheart
This is certainly nothing new. The gov't. and SCOTUS have obviously been operating under that assumtion for over 100 years. Otherwise there wouldn't be thousands of "gun laws" on the books, GCA '34, GCA '68, NICS and 4473's wouldn't exist, you'd still be able to order a gun and have it delivered to your door and the BATFE would just be BATE.
Just curious how many here would be alright with it if NONE of these gun laws existed ?

I'd be fine if all the gun ownership laws were gone. Criminals don't obey them anyway so mainly the only people left are those of us that don't break the law anyway.
The problem isn't that criminals ignore the laws, it's the fact that politicians have neutered the very laws they create and progressive (oxymoron) DA's don't prosecute actual crimes.
And yes Biden, originally all citizens were allowed to own all weapons of war. The same weapons that the government held. Even private warships and all cannons. Bezos could probably afford a modern Cruiser, and I would be ok with that.
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Blackheart
This is certainly nothing new. The gov't. and SCOTUS have obviously been operating under that assumtion for over 100 years. Otherwise there wouldn't be thousands of "gun laws" on the books, GCA '34, GCA '68, NICS and 4473's wouldn't exist, you'd still be able to order a gun and have it delivered to your door and the BATFE would just be BATE.
Just curious how many here would be alright with it if NONE of these gun laws existed ?

I'd be fine if all the gun ownership laws were gone. Criminals don't obey them anyway so mainly the only people left are those of us that don't break the law anyway.
I'd like them all gone too. They're ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL and ILLEGITIMATE. Trouble is, I guarantee you there are "Fudds" posting in this very thread that would be "uncomfortable" in repealing all the gun laws. There have been plenty of those "Fudds" at the NRA negotiating/compromising our rights away for as far back as I can remember and those "Fudds" are a BIG part of the problem.
http://thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/Stengunplans.pdf

^Sends the Feds shrieking down the hallway
Originally Posted by kappa8
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by kappa8
What part of "shall not be infringed" is confusing?


Kappa, they’ll spin the crap out of that, eg., you like your flintlocks, you can keep your flintlocks and as many as you want.

They already regulate class 3 and we see what various states have enacted as to what’s legal and what ain’t.

The fight is coming on this and many have little faith in which way the scotus would rule.


True that Toot. Similar to the way they are attempting to divide and conquer the citizenry by race/ethnicity/religion/sex/gender, they parse the Second Amendment for same reason. We don't need SCOTUS to explain what is and is not allowed under 2A. Shall not be infringed.

But here's the problem. Their divide & conquer strategy is working. There's enough sheeple who are indifferent to make the citizenry reliably weak. And for the insufficient number of patriots, they don't have to divide & conquer us. There's enough infighting on these forums that we've achieved the divide & conquer amongst ourselves for them.


Heh !
Yessir and you’ve said it better than most have.
Sheeple

I always find them a great source of dark humor

They never disappoint.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Blackheart
This is certainly nothing new. The gov't. and SCOTUS have obviously been operating under that assumtion for over 100 years. Otherwise there wouldn't be thousands of "gun laws" on the books, GCA '34, GCA '68, NICS and 4473's wouldn't exist, you'd still be able to order a gun and have it delivered to your door and the BATFE would just be BATE.
Just curious how many here would be alright with it if NONE of these gun laws existed ?

I'd be fine if all the gun ownership laws were gone. Criminals don't obey them anyway so mainly the only people left are those of us that don't break the law anyway.
I'd like them all gone too. They're ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL and ILLEGITIMATE. Trouble is, I guarantee you there are "Fudds" posting in this very thread that would be "uncomfortable" in repealing all the gun laws. There have been plenty of those "Fudds" at the NRA negotiating/compromising our rights away for as far back as I can remember and those "Fudds" are a BIG part of the problem.

Those same Fudds are the ones that told us if we passed concealed carry we'd have a blood bath in out streets. They're not leaders, they're sheep. Timid, very timid sheep that are easily swayed and controlled by fear.
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Blackheart
This is certainly nothing new. The gov't. and SCOTUS have obviously been operating under that assumtion for over 100 years. Otherwise there wouldn't be thousands of "gun laws" on the books, GCA '34, GCA '68, NICS and 4473's wouldn't exist, you'd still be able to order a gun and have it delivered to your door and the BATFE would just be BATE.
Just curious how many here would be alright with it if NONE of these gun laws existed ?

I'd be fine if all the gun ownership laws were gone. Criminals don't obey them anyway so mainly the only people left are those of us that don't break the law anyway.
I'd like them all gone too. They're ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL and ILLEGITIMATE. Trouble is, I guarantee you there are "Fudds" posting in this very thread that would be "uncomfortable" in repealing all the gun laws. There have been plenty of those "Fudds" at the NRA negotiating/compromising our rights away for as far back as I can remember and those "Fudds" are a BIG part of the problem.

Those same Fudds are the ones that told us if we passed concealed carry we'd have a blood bath in out streets. They're not leaders, they're sheep. Timid, very timid sheep that are easily swayed and controlled by fear.


I think we’ve seen how powerful fear can be to a society like ours.
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


Any Republicans that don't fight this tooth and nail should be voted out also.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by centershot
Originally Posted by DMc
Every Demoncrap re-election in the legislature will be threatened if Biden tries this.


Any Republicans that don't fight this tooth and nail should be voted out also.

Do you see any lining up to fight against it?
Posted By: RickyD Re: 2nd Amendment Not Absolute - 04/09/21
Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by JakeBlues


Biden added that “no amendment to the Constitution is absolute".


Then he should be OK with a bit of friendly slavery, premenstrual women not voting (just the bitchy ones), and torching the printing presses of the liberal mass news media??
It's not the presses fault. Torch the lieberals.
What part of, "Congress shall make no law", don't they understand?
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