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Texas: GOA Responds to Sellout License to Carry Instructors

Springfield, VA – -(AmmoLand.com)- Rachel Malone, Texas Director of Gun Owners of America, responded to License to Carry (LTC) instructors who are opposing efforts to restore the right of self-defense in Texas, stating:

“Earlier today, a small contingent of License to Carry instructors sided with Bloomberg-funded organizations and opposed pending legislation to restore Texans’ right to carry a handgun without having to obtain a permit. We find it unconscionable that anyone in the firearms community would betray our liberties based on an obvious financial interest.

“As Chair James White and Representative Matt Schaefer stated earlier today, ‘Experience shows that residents will continue to voluntarily seek out training and licenses in permitless carry states, recognizing the benefits of instruction as well as acquiring and maintaining a license, for reciprocity with other states while traveling and other purposes.’

“We agree with Wallace Dunn, President of the Texas Concealed Handgun Association, who stated: ‘Training should not be a condition to exercising a constitutional right.’

“And we applaud instructors such as Jerah Hutchins, firearms instructor, GOA member, and Director of Training at Tier One security company, who stated: ‘Supporting Constitutional Carry as an LTC instructor is the difference between capitalism and greed. As instructors, our job is to teach and influence Texans to be responsible gun owners. This can be accomplished without an infringing licensure.’

“While Gun Owners of America encourages gun owners to obtain quality training, we would hate for any Texas gun owners to give their hard-earned money to the tiny fraction of instructors who actively fight against their core values. We urge our members to seek training from those who advocate in favor of our liberties and support Constitutional Carry.”
Fugging turncoats are everywhere.
If you don't need a license to carry you don't need a license to carry instructor.
Originally Posted by Pat85
If you don't need a license to carry you don't need a license to carry instructor.


Wrong. Your permitless is only good in Texas. Mine is good in 33 states including Texass.
I think there is value in training someone to properly carry a gun, I think we all know someone who we would feel better about getting meaningful instruction on gun handling.

making them (or me) file for a permit afterwards to be able to carry it is horseshit though
Originally Posted by KFWA
I think there is value in training someone to properly carry a gun, I think we all know someone who we would fell better about getting meaningful instruction on gun handling.

making them (or me) file for a permit afterwards to be able to carry it is horseshit though


I agree 100%. The problem is (at least here in Louisiana) the conceal carry class is a joke especially in terms of firearms handling and shooting. I have been through two of the CC classes.
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by Pat85
If you don't need a license to carry you don't need a license to carry instructor.


Wrong. Your permitless is only good in Texas. Mine is good in 33 states including Texass.

My permit is good in all 50 states.
People have a right to carry a firearm until they do something that warrants a court judging them unfit to do so, regardless of whether or not they've taken some "classroom instruction" of questionable value.

Just like they have the freedom of movement, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and right to vote, until they do something that causes a court to adjudicate they are too irresponsible to exercise these rights.
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by Pat85
If you don't need a license to carry you don't need a license to carry instructor.


Wrong. Your permitless is only good in Texas. Mine is good in 33 states including Texass.

My permit is good in all 50 states.


lol. Fly into New York , New Jersey, Washington DC with your pistol in checked baggage
'Thin blue line' my ass:

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2021/04/13/texas-police-on-permitless-carry-in-texas/

HAPPENING NOW: Police association members and chiefs from Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio are holding a news conference at the Capitol to speak out against a bill allowing permitless carry of firearms. #txlege pic.twitter.com/CLLD7IPJvu

— Reena Jade Diamante (@reenajade) April 13, 2021

Is anyone surprised that Texas police would oppose the exercise of God-given rights without their approval?
Originally Posted by KFWA
I think there is value in training someone to properly carry a gun, I think we all know someone who we would fell better about getting meaningful instruction on gun handling.

making them (or me) file for a permit afterwards to be able to carry it is horseshit though



BS.

Learning to handle and situational shooting a firearm is a personal responsibility.

Firearm training only goes so far.

We MUST even the playing field between the criminals who carry, and allowing law abiding citizens to carry without harassment.

How much formal training does the criminal element have?

PASS CC NOW!
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
'Thin blue line' my ass:

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2021/04/13/texas-police-on-permitless-carry-in-texas/

HAPPENING NOW: Police association members and chiefs from Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio are holding a news conference at the Capitol to speak out against a bill allowing permitless carry of firearms. #txlege pic.twitter.com/CLLD7IPJvu

— Reena Jade Diamante (@reenajade) April 13, 2021

Is anyone surprised that Texas police would oppose the exercise of God-given rights without their approval?



Those are all liberal schidtholes.

Idiots are falling in line with the very liberals who want them de-funded.

Real smart.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
'Thin blue line' my ass:

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2021/04/13/texas-police-on-permitless-carry-in-texas/

HAPPENING NOW: Police association members and chiefs from Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio are holding a news conference at the Capitol to speak out against a bill allowing permitless carry of firearms. #txlege pic.twitter.com/CLLD7IPJvu

— Reena Jade Diamante (@reenajade) April 13, 2021

Is anyone surprised that Texas police would oppose the exercise of God-given rights without their approval?

It won't pass this session either. These idiot fake conservatives in the executive branch are all RINOs, and have the conservative grassroots base brainwashed into believing they are conservative and respect your God Given rights.

And all these LEO supporting the Communists actions to keep the citizens disarmed, prove they vote commie, when in the booth, no matter what they tell you to your face. That's your union boys, following their union leader's wishes, because they can't think for them selves. Not all, but most.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by KFWA
I think there is value in training someone to properly carry a gun, I think we all know someone who we would fell better about getting meaningful instruction on gun handling.

making them (or me) file for a permit afterwards to be able to carry it is horseshit though



BS.

Learning to handle and situational shooting a firearm is a personal responsibility.


I don't see how we are in conflict here
Follow the money. The instructors do not want people, to not have to get a course ,they make money on.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
'Thin blue line' my ass:

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2021/04/13/texas-police-on-permitless-carry-in-texas/

HAPPENING NOW: Police association members and chiefs from Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio are holding a news conference at the Capitol to speak out against a bill allowing permitless carry of firearms. #txlege pic.twitter.com/CLLD7IPJvu

— Reena Jade Diamante (@reenajade) April 13, 2021

Is anyone surprised that Texas police would oppose the exercise of God-given rights without their approval?

Democrat politicians wanting to limit gun rights. Who is surprised by this. The big cities in Texas are liberal [bleep].
Hasbeen
Originally Posted by KFWA
I think there is value in training someone to properly carry a gun, I think we all know someone who we would feel better about getting meaningful instruction on gun handling.

making them (or me) file for a permit afterwards to be able to carry it is horseshit though


I knew a girl once that did not know how to drive a standard transmission.

People had offered to show her time and time again. She simply did not want to learn.

Someone grabbed her up late one night... took her to a remote area and raped her.

She had a chance to Escape her assailant at one point Ibut could not drive a manual transmission.

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The dentist told my son that he did not have to brush all of his teeth... only the ones that he wanted to keep.

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People need to make their own decisions about what is important to them.

When another person makes a decision or a law on your behalf it is almost never useful or helpful.
Originally Posted by Pat85
If you don't need a license to carry you don't need a license to carry instructor.

Exactly.
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by Pat85
If you don't need a license to carry you don't need a license to carry instructor.


Wrong. Your permitless is only good in Texas. Mine is good in 33 states including Texass.


Wrong. Constitutional carry is the law in 19 states with more having passed it and waiting to come into law. When Tennessee implements theirs I'll be able to go into any state that touches mine and still carry without a permit. I usually don't carry because I'm a homebody and avoid schithole areas, but it's good to know I can when I choose to.
Iowa's Governor just signed Constitutional Carry.
It's good to know where their heart is at.
In West Virginia, the sheriff and deputy assoc.worked diligently and organized on tax payer/ gun owners' dollars to lobby AGAINST gun owners.

What does the Bible say about "The love of money....?"

Evil men who love to rule over and steal from decent men who gave them a job.........

What is worse than stealing $ from the people for such?
Stealing their God-given RIGHTS!
The observed data on safety issues and crime in states with no permit to carry heavily supports such a position. The "big city" police chiefs in TX speaking against the measure are not doing so from a position of better knowledge or because they want to protect the public. These guys are like a lot of other self-interested chiefs in such locations - they are shills for a particular political agenda and have sold their souls to keep a career going. I support our true LEOs - they are not LEOs.
Police chiefs serve at the pleasure of the mayor. They can be fired by the mayor if they displease him/her.
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by Pat85
If you don't need a license to carry you don't need a license to carry instructor.


Wrong. Your permitless is only good in Texas. Mine is good in 33 states including Texass.

My permit is good in all 50 states.



That’s a lie!!!
Originally Posted by CCCC
The observed data on safety issues and crime in states with no permit to carry heavily supports such a position. The "big city" police chiefs in TX speaking against the measure are not doing so from a position of better knowledge or because they want to protect the public. These guys are like a lot of other self-interested chiefs in such locations - they are shills for a particular political agenda and have sold their souls to keep a career going. I support our true LEOs - they are not LEOs.



That's exactly right!

Every time legislation comes up that is Pro Gun, Pro 2nd Amendment, etc, the anti-gunners fearmonger the public with woes of "Blood running in the streets"...

But it never happens that way. In the vast majority of cases, states that allow more gun freedoms see a decline in the crime rate.

While the strictest gun control states and cities are the ones with the highest murder rates.
at the end of the day, they don't like the people that like guns

going to be hard to reconcile for ole Biden, with the AR-15 being one of, along with the semi auto Glock being the most popular guns sold

Its not just old white boomers buying them. Those guns aren't going under the nightstand
Permits are an industry. Just like covid.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Permits are an industry. Just like covid.



AND under Govt control. Both of which put you on a regulatory list.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
'Thin blue line' my ass:

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2021/04/13/texas-police-on-permitless-carry-in-texas/

HAPPENING NOW: Police association members and chiefs from Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio are holding a news conference at the Capitol to speak out against a bill allowing permitless carry of firearms. #txlege pic.twitter.com/CLLD7IPJvu

— Reena Jade Diamante (@reenajade) April 13, 2021

Is anyone surprised that Texas police would oppose the exercise of God-given rights without their approval?


I'm not. OSBI and others opposed it here in Oklahoma, delayed it a few months.

Miraculously, the world has not come to an end here now that we have Constitutional Carry.
I am a License to Carry Instructor here in Texas, and I am all for permit-less carry (constitutional carry).
There is nothing more gratifying to a cop than when he arrives at a burglary call and has a good blood trail.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
There is nothing more gratifying to a cop than when arrives at a burglary call and has a good blood trail.

I like that.
Hypocrites

"I'm the only in this room professional enough to carry a gun"



Even you guys can't be stupid enough to think poleece chiefs speak for poleecemen.

Not to be confused with Sheriff's Deputies. That's a TOTALLY different gig.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Even you guys can't be stupid enough to think poleece chiefs speak for poleecemen.

Not to be confused with Sheriff's Deputies. That's a TOTALLY different gig.


Yep. Most Police Chiefs are Libertard Asswholes. Don’t know any of the officers that actually like them except for other Libertard Asswholes.
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by Pat85
If you don't need a license to carry you don't need a license to carry instructor.


Wrong. Your permitless is only good in Texas. Mine is good in 33 states including Texass.


Not exactly Swifty . . . Your permit-less in Texas is good in Oklahoma and 19 other states. It is the wave of the future.
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Shops should stop selling ammo to the turncoat.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
'Thin blue line' my ass:

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2021/04/13/texas-police-on-permitless-carry-in-texas/

HAPPENING NOW: Police association members and chiefs from Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio are holding a news conference at the Capitol to speak out against a bill allowing permitless carry of firearms. #txlege pic.twitter.com/CLLD7IPJvu

— Reena Jade Diamante (@reenajade) April 13, 2021

Is anyone surprised that Texas police would oppose the exercise of God-given rights without their approval?

No one is surprised that Chiefs Associations are purely pawns of their political masters.
Damn, it ain’t like Texas is getting any redder as election cycles come and go.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Fugging turncoats are everywhere.




Some gun shop owners here want every gun sale to go through an FFL. Traitors abound.

Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
Police chiefs serve at the pleasure of the mayor. They can be fired by the mayor if they displease him/her.



Local tyrants are easy to find.




Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Fugging turncoats are everywhere.




Some gun shop owners here want every gun sale to go through an FFL. Traitors abound.



The names and faces of the traitors need to be remembered.
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