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Vote was 84-56.

The bill still progresses forward.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/04/15/texas-constitutional-carry/
I'm shocked! Glad, but shocked!! I just knew that the R's would screw it up. Well, let's see if the Senate can get their act together on this.
Hope it passes Texas!
Well gee what do I need a CCW permit for?
Originally Posted by rickt300
Well gee what do I need a CCW permit for?



You don't.

It comes with added liability, regulation, and being included on a list.
The only reason to get one is for travel to states without Constitutional Carry and that recognize your states CCW permit. The only one I go to regularly is MN and they don't so it is almost not necessary for me.
Bout fugging time Texas!

Good job!
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
I'm shocked! Glad, but shocked!! I just knew that the R's would screw it up. Well, let's see if the Senate can get their act together on this.


There will be some fine print, I hope it is not ridiculous
Originally Posted by Ruger4Life
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
I'm shocked! Glad, but shocked!! I just knew that the R's would screw it up. Well, let's see if the Senate can get their act together on this.


There will be some fine print, I hope it is not ridiculous



The anti gunners tried all day to amend the bill with poison pills, and failed to do so.
yeah hey!
Originally Posted by rickt300
Well gee what do I need a CCW permit for?


You're supposed to have a permit to tote ?
Oh crap ! !
I always thought it was my right as a law
abiding Texan. I didn't realize I had to have
anybody's approval.
The people that can't have a heater aren't
supposed to be running loose
Thumbs up!
Well it was kind of a fad to get your permit though when it became legal to keep a loaded handgun in your truck without one some of the "shine" wore off.
Good Deal!
Ha! I remember when almost all High School boys had a gun rack in the back window with 2 firearms seated in it. We parked our trucks there and left the windows down in the summer with no worries! Damn! I miss those days in Texas!
Originally Posted by rickt300
Well gee what do I need a CCW permit for?


No NICS checks when buying a gun.
maybe I won't be an outlaw anymore.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
maybe I won't be an outlaw anymore.


My eldest...
Originally Posted by Ruger4Life
Ha! I remember when almost all High School boys had a gun rack in the back window with 2 firearms seated in it. We parked our trucks there and left the windows down in the summer with no worries! Damn! I miss those days in Texas!

sure did, drunk beer in the parking lot during lunch.
Great for Texas, and America. Hats off to Texas today!
Hard to fathom we celebrate a God given right these days, but glad you all in TX got the win!
OK, what’s the prognosis for the Texas Senate, anyone know? 18 R - 13 D, is 18 votes enough to carry the day if they can all be had?

Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
OK, what’s the prognosis for the Texas Senate, anyone know? 18 R - 13 D, is 18 votes enough to carry the day if they can all be had?

Three RINOs will vote with the commie dems, to keep the tyranny going.

We'll get them next time will be the forever bark that comes from these traitors.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
maybe I won't be an outlaw anymore.

No. You will still be one!
As pro-gun Texas is, it’s a bit surprising there isn’t constitutional carry already.

Hope it passes.
Originally Posted by ironbender
As pro-gun Texas is, it’s a bit surprising there isn’t constitutional carry already.

Hope it passes.

TX has some very restrictive laws concerning carrying a firearm.

TX is the only state in the Union that makes it a Felony to carry into a place that serves alcohol.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by rickt300
Well gee what do I need a CCW permit for?



You don't.

It comes with added liability, regulation, and being included on a list.



that's how I have always felt about it

if I need to carry a gun I will.
Surprisingly there were two good Democrat amendments included that were passed overwhelmingly. One amendment would expunge previous unlicensed carry convictions (passed unanimously) and the other would prevent the police from harassing people for merely having a gun (only two people voted against it).
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by ironbender
As pro-gun Texas is, it’s a bit surprising there isn’t constitutional carry already.

Hope it passes.

TX has some very restrictive laws concerning carrying a firearm.

TX is the only state in the Union that makes it a Felony to carry into a place that serves alcohol.
that 50% or more of their sales is from serving alcohol, consumed on premises. Basically bars and maybe breweries.
The bill passed final reading this morning and is headed to the Senate. Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (a Republican) is nominally opposed to this, so CALL your Texas state senator and lean on him to go against any roadblocks from the Lt. Gov.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
The bill passed final reading this morning and is headed to the Senate. Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (a Republican) is nominally opposed to this, so CALL your Texas state senator and lean on him to go against any roadblocks from the Lt. Gov.



Mine's firmly in support.

Sent Dan Patrick an e-mail too.

Or just call. (512) 463-0001
This would be a great step if it makes it. I predict a decrease in crime if it does, not an increase like the libs would like us to believe
Originally Posted by TxHunter80
This would be a great step if it makes it. I predict a decrease in crime if it does, not an increase like the libs would like us to believe



Liberal Logic: De-Fund the Police and disarm citizens at the same time. crazy

We need Constitutional Carry now, more then ever before.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by TxHunter80
This would be a great step if it makes it. I predict a decrease in crime if it does, not an increase like the libs would like us to believe



Liberal Logic: De-Fund the Police and disarm citizens at the same time. crazy

We need Constitutional Carry now, more then ever before.





Agreed.

Need DeSantis to get off his ass here.

What do they call that thing again? You know.. Where the federal government and the States war on each other?
Does this bill, address some of the ridiculous restrictions already in place, like Bars
Originally Posted by steve4102
Does this bill, address some of the ridiculous restrictions already in place, like Bars


No.

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB1927/id/2363131
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by ironbender
As pro-gun Texas is, it’s a bit surprising there isn’t constitutional carry already.

Hope it passes.

TX has some very restrictive laws concerning carrying a firearm.

TX is the only state in the Union that makes it a Felony to carry into a place that serves alcohol.
that 50% or more of their sales is from serving alcohol, consumed on premises. Basically bars and maybe breweries.


Yep. Most restaurants that serve alcohol don’t meet that requirement. Doesn’t affect me, though, since I don’t frequent bars or breweries. Never been to a Restaurant in TX that I couldn’t carry in.
I taught the TX CHL Course for 25 years. Finally gave up my Instructor’s License a few years ago. I’m all for Constitutional Carry. Hope it finally passes here in TX.
If it does, I’m not going to give up my TX LTC, though, as we have Reciprocal Agreements with 40 states. Still great for travel.
I've never got my Texas CHL/LTC, I got mine from Arizona because Texas was $140 freaking dollars a few years ago and Ariz. was only $60
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Ruger4Life
Ha! I remember when almost all High School boys had a gun rack in the back window with 2 firearms seated in it. We parked our trucks there and left the windows down in the summer with no worries! Damn! I miss those days in Texas!

sure did, drunk beer in the parking lot during lunch.


Yep. The Good Ole Days, Roger. My nephews still don’t believe me when I tell them that. I had my Model 94 30-30 and a Ithaca M-37 12 ga Riot gun on the gun rack of the old pickup I drove in HS. 🤠
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
I've never got my Texas CHL/LTC, I got mine from Arizona because Texas was $140 freaking dollars a few years ago and Ariz. was only $60


The current cost of the TX LTC nowadays works out to $8 bucks a year. 🤠
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
The bill passed final reading this morning and is headed to the Senate. Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (a Republican) is nominally opposed to this, so CALL your Texas state senator and lean on him to go against any roadblocks from the Lt. Gov.

If you'll remember, that commie fake RINO Patrick (He changed his last name and has filed BK before), when he was a Senator, he wanted to have a law passed that allowed members of the legislature to be able to carry where CHL holders could not.

Laws for me, and not for you. That right there proves he is a fake conservative commie little biatch.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by rickt300
Well gee what do I need a CCW permit for?



You don't.

It comes with added liability, regulation, and being included on a list.

Awesome possum!

So it's got to go through your senate now ?
Ok, well its too soon to celebrate.
This should go on every prayer list in every Texas church that has the gospel.
I will too.
For those interested, you can listen to Rep. Canales (D), criminal defense attorney, at the 7:54:38 timestamp in the video linked below:

https://tlchouse.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=47&clip_id=20339
A recent change in the Texas Senate rules can stop the Democrats from blocking the bill before it gets to the Senate floor.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2021/01/13/texas-senate-republicans/amp/
F-cking Terry Canales and his dad and family, all corrupt. About time he did something right.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
F-cking Terry Canales and his dad and family, all corrupt. About time he did something right.



Does he usually live up (or down, depending on your perspective?) to his billing as a 'criminal defense attorney'?? This is the first time I've heard of him.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by stxhunter
F-cking Terry Canales and his dad and family, all corrupt. About time he did something right.



Does he usually live up (or down, depending on your perspective?) to his billing as a 'criminal defense attorney'?? This is the first time I've heard of him.

He is a lawyer, but that family has been in politics forever, all liberals, all of them are lawyers. His father was the county judge in Jim Wells county for yrs. had him on Fb, on my friend's list till I pointed out they were basically a crime family and he blocked me.
What’s the chances the Senate passes as well?
Originally Posted by steve4102
What’s the chances the Senate passes as well?


I honestly think it'll be a miracle if it passes the Senate: Lt. Gov. is not in favor of this.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by stxhunter
F-cking Terry Canales and his dad and family, all corrupt. About time he did something right.



Does he usually live up (or down, depending on your perspective?) to his billing as a 'criminal defense attorney'?? This is the first time I've heard of him.

He is a lawyer, but that family has been in politics forever, all liberals, all of them are lawyers. His father was the county judge in Jim Wells county for yrs. had him on Fb, on my friend's list till I pointed out they were basically a crime family and he blocked me.


LoL!!!
It blows me away that TX hasn't been open carry. Hell even my commie state is. One of it's few redeeming features.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by steve4102
What’s the chances the Senate passes as well?


I honestly think it'll be a miracle if it passes the Senate: Lt. Gov. is not in favor of this.


From looking at the votes, a majority of those representatives voting Nay have one foot in Mexico and the other in America.
I think it will like I said some of the dems are supporting it.
Originally Posted by Chisos
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by steve4102
What’s the chances the Senate passes as well?


I honestly think it'll be a miracle if it passes the Senate: Lt. Gov. is not in favor of this.


From looking at the votes, a majority of those representatives voting Nay have one foot in Mexico and the other in America.


You noticed that, too!!!
And the red democrat governor and legislators of GA are working hard to block it here. Weak rich boys are scared of the blacks carrying.
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
And the red democrat governor and legislators of GA are working hard to block it here. Weak rich boys are scared of the blacks carrying.


LOL they don't realize the ATL crowd is already carrying?
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by steve4102
What’s the chances the Senate passes as well?


I honestly think it'll be a miracle if it passes the Senate: Lt. Gov. is not in favor of this.


OTOH with the Republican majority steadily eroding away in Texas, he’s gotta know that him blocking this legislation so popular with Conservatives would alienate much of his base. Same thing for the remaining 19 Republican Senators, and hasten the loss of the State.
All fingers and toes crossed for a positive vote..........
Well, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick shows his @ss to the world, he's doing a great job of saving Gov. Abbott from having to sign constitutional carry into law:

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/04/19/texas-constitutional-carry-senate/

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says Senate currently lacks the votes to pass permitless carry of handguns

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said Monday that the state Senate does not currently have the votes to pass permitless carry of handguns but that he will try to see if there is a "path" to change that.

The news from the Republican presiding officer of the Senate came days after the House approved a permitless carry bill, commonly referred to as "constitutional carry" by supporters.

“If we have the votes to pass a permitless carry bill off the Senate floor, I will move it," Patrick said in a statement. "At this point we don’t have the votes on the floor to pass it. I plan to meet with law enforcement who oppose permitless carry and with the [National Rifle Association] and [Gun Owners of America] who support it to see if we can find a path that a majority of senators will vote to pass.”

In most cases, Senate bills require 18 votes from the 31-member chamber to be considered on the floor. There are only 18 GOP senators, so a permitless-carry bill would need the support of every Republican in the chamber to reach the floor — or at least one Democratic vote if any Republicans defect.

On Friday afternoon, one key GOP senator, Sen. Kel Seliger of Amarillo, suggested he may not be immediately supportive of the proposal. He told The Texas Tribune that his office was still researching the issue and he tends to support "just about all" bills related to gun rights, but the "system that we have now works." He said it was too early to say whether he would block the bill from coming to the floor or vote against it if it made it to the floor.

House Bill 1927 would get rid of the requirement for Texas residents to get a license to carry handguns if they are not already prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a firearm. The House gave final approval to the legislation on Friday morning in an 87-58 vote that included seven Democrats in support of it.

Supporters of permitless carry, including gun rights groups and conservative Republicans, argued the measure simply allows Texans to exercise rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment. Many Democrats, joined by some law enforcement officers and faith leaders in opposition, instead cited the need for stricter gun safety measures following the 2019 mass shootings in El Paso and Midland-Odessa. The debate over gun laws in Texas has emerged as a top issue this session as gun violence nationwide — including a shooting in Bryan on April 8 and another in Austin on Sunday — has reignited the longstanding debates over gun control.

The passage of the bill in the House last week was a notable development since such proposals have not made it nearly as far in recent sessions. House Speaker Dade Phelan’s predecessor behind the gavel, Dennis Bonnen, and his predecessor, Joe Straus, were resistant to the idea and especially chafed at the tactics of its supporters. Bonnen declared the proposal “dead” last session after a gun rights activist showed up at his Lake Jackson home to advocate for the proposal.

The Senate under Patrick is generally seen as the chamber more interested in pressing for hot-button conservative issues. But Patrick has has expressed reservations about permitless carry in the past. Ahead of the 2015 session, he said he did not think there was enough support among lawmakers or the public, a sentiment he reiterated in 2017 while citing law enforcement concerns with “anyone being able to walk down the street with a gun and they don’t know if they have a permit or not."

A permitless carry bill has also been filed in the Senate this session, but it was referred to a committee over a month ago and has not received a hearing yet.
Democrat politicians take care of their voters. GOP politicians take care of themselves...
More work to do in the primaries... mad
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by rickt300
Well gee what do I need a CCW permit for?


No NICS checks when buying a gun.



This is enough reason for me to keep one.
i hope Texas at least allows USA non-residents with carry permits to carry in Texas ,down by the border there is some bad situations with these illegals . America should have national legal carry permits and piss on these liberals !
Things like this rarely fly well on the first test.
Dan Patrick is a twatwaffle. He's been pandering to the big city blue voters for years .
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