After finding debris identified as coming from their missing submarine, the Indonesian Navy today declared the sub sunk with no chance of survivors. They will continue to search for whatever remains of the German-made submarine, which had been in service with the Indonesian Navy since 1981, to determine what happened to cause the loss, if possible. The sub, with a crew of 53, was on torpedo trials and about to submerge when it was last heard from on Thursday.
In Australia nd NZ it's only a question of who will invade first.
China or Indonesia.
AUS/NZ have joke militaries and NO Nukes.
As Israel and NOKO have proven, a small country with no nukes is an easy target.
Probably wait until world is diverted by Israel/Iran conflict to move in.
BTW Germany built Israel four nuke cruise missle capable subs, 2 of which are always on station with Iran in the crosshairs.
They will never invade, there is a rifleman behind every blade of grass.
Oh wait, they surrendered their guns to the govt. and all the grass burned up. Oh well I guess they're fugged. Ask their Abos about above ground nuclear testing.
I read the water is very deep where they lost that sub. Could be laying miles down on the bottom.
I wonder if it's deep enough to muffle the screams of terror from those subhuman crew members... Not for nutin' but just as a 'friendly' reminder there are lots of us here who recall your holier than thou bashing of & public 'ignoring' of STX and soon after seeing your classless post RE: hanging subhuman ethnic people. That despicable post of yours was deleted but for many of us your pathetic display of hypocrisy won't be overlooked. STX may be a lot of things, but I'll tell you here and now what he's not--starting with being a phony and someone who speaks out of two sides of his mouth. I'm grateful to you for your service to our nation but know this: if I were to ever witness you talking shyt to my brother Roger I'd crescent kick you right in your Okie grill.
I remember when Thresher went down. It was shocking, and also mysterious and spooky. Something off the Twilight Zone.
One of my 'student workers' at Northeastern Law in the late 90s was a former submariner. I recall him describing being at the helm in training and conducting an 'emergency blow'. I recall him laughing and describing how with the electric boat under his control he'd 'make that bitch sit up and bark' at his bequest. He also spoke of his late uncle who was lost at sea as crew aboard the Thresher...
Y'know Big Red, it seems like things have arrived at an impasse. You talking sheet and backed up by F lav'R Flav. I don't know [bleep] about cows but know enough to know when the billhillies start start displaying their base camp...
Reuters Sunken missing Indonesian submarine found broken into pieces Nilufar Rizki and Sultan Anshori Sun, April 25, 2021, 1:54 AM·3 min read By Nilufar Rizki and Sultan Anshori
DENPASAR (Reuters) -A missing Indonesian submarine has been found, broken into at least three parts, at the bottom of the Bali Sea, army and navy officials said on Sunday, as the president sent condolences to relatives of the 53 crew.
Rescuers also found new objects, including a life vest, that they believe belong to those aboard the 44-year old KRI Nanggala-402, which lost contact on Wednesday as it prepared to conduct a torpedo drill.
"Based on the evidence, it can be stated that the KRI Nanggala has sunk and all of its crew have died," military chief Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto told reporters.
Navy chief of staff Yudo Margono said the crew were not to blame for the accident and that the submarine did not experience a blackout, blaming "forces of nature".
"The KRI Nanggala is divided into three parts, the hull of the ship, the stern of the ship, and the main parts are all separated, with the main part found cracked," he said. "There are scattered parts of the submarine and its interior in the water."
President Joko Widodo earlier confirmed the discovery in the Bali Sea and sent the families of the victims his condolences.
"All of us Indonesians express our deep sorrow over this tragedy, especially to the families of the submarine crew."
A sonar scan on Saturday detected the submarine at 850 metres (2,790 feet), far beyond the Nanggala's diving range.
More than a dozen helicopters and ships are searching the area where contact was lost, with the United States, Australia, Singapore, and Malaysia providing assistance.
Navy officials said international help will be crucial in recovering the remains of the vessel.
Imploded, as expected. That Navy chief of staff is blowing smoke to save face of the crew. It had to be either a mechanical failure or crew error and either is as likely as the other.
Y'know Big Red, it seems like things have arrived at an impasse. You talking sheet and backed up by F lav'R Flav. I don't know [bleep] about cows but know enough to know when the billhillies start start displaying their base camp...
Imploded, as expected. That Navy chief of staff is blowing smoke to save face of the crew. It had to be either a mechanical failure or crew error and either is as likely as the other.
They claims it's in 3 pieces. Have to wonder if it cracked along the welds, or what?
An implosion is like an explosion, but in reverse. The hull fractures inward and upwards of 3,000 psi water pressure slams into every possible place, rupturing bulkheads, decks, and everything else in its path. It is not a slow leak; it's an extremely violent event. The usual result is multiple large pieces of structure and a large debris field of everything else.
An implosion is like an explosion, but in reverse. The hull fractures inward and upwards of 3,000 psi water pressure slams into every possible place, rupturing bulkheads, decks, and everything else in its path. It is not a slow leak; it's an extremely violent event. The usual result is multiple large pieces of structure and a large debris field of everything else.
Like squeezing an egg until it bursts all over the place.
Hmmm. The online depth/pressure calculator I used gave me an answer in atmospheres, so I multiplied by 14 to get psi. Somehow, my meager math skills let me down again. A different online calculator gives me roughly 875 psi at 600 meters or just under 2,000 feet LINK
Math errors aside, there are a whole damn lotta square inches on a sub, so 875 psi translates to a huge amount of pressure.
I find subs fascinating machines and sub warfare intriguing. A lot of my favorite movies have subs starring in them, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to work on one beyond the dock it's tied up to.
Hmmm. The online depth/pressure calculator I used gave me an answer in atmospheres, so I multiplied by 14 to get psi. Somehow, my meager math skills let me down again. A different online calculator gives me roughly 875 psi at 600 meters or just under 2,000 feet LINK
Math errors aside, there are a whole damn lotta square inches on a sub, so 875 psi translates to a huge amount of pressure.
Guys used to stash a styrofoam coffee cup in the conning tower before a deep dive. I was told they were much smaller when retrieved.
I find subs fascinating machines and sub warfare intriguing. A lot of my favorite movies have subs starring in them, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to work on one beyond the dock it's tied up to.
During World War II, the U.S. Navy's submarine service suffered the highest casualty percentage of all the American armed forces, losing one in five submariners. Some 16,000 submariners served during the war, of whom 375 officers and 3,131 enlisted men were killed.
oh man, i got a chuckle out of quite a few comments on this thread.
truth be told, bumping around indonesia, taking rickety trains, sketchy ferries and dangerous taxi rides with my family might be my best memories in life
indonesia is very diverse culturally. from sharia law in northern sumatra where separatists are fighting the jakarta government, to animist types in western guinea, to hedonistic balinese hindu's to christians occupying timor.
28million christians in the country.. but [bleep], they darkies. lol
I find subs fascinating machines and sub warfare intriguing. A lot of my favorite movies have subs starring in them, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to work on one beyond the dock it's tied up to.
During World War II, the U.S. Navy's submarine service suffered the highest casualty percentage of all the American armed forces, losing one in five submariners. Some 16,000 submariners served during the war, of whom 375 officers and 3,131 enlisted men were killed.
The USS Grunion was just located off Kiska a couple years ago. The Grunion was lost on its first war patrol. As unfortunate as their loss was, I feel honored that they are resting in our waters. Even though that's still about 850mi W of me from the tip of the AKPEN.
oh man, i got a chuckle out of quite a few comments on this thread.
truth be told, bumping around indonesia, taking rickety trains, sketchy ferries and dangerous taxi rides with my family might be my best memories in life
indonesia is very diverse culturally. from sharia law in northern sumatra where separatists are fighting the jakarta government, to animist types in western guinea, to hedonistic balinese hindu's to christians occupying timor.
28million christians in the country.. but [bleep], they darkies. lol
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