GM is gonna spend a BILLION DOLLARS in mexico for electric cars and the UAW is mad. Wonder if the UAW still endorses Biden they will never learn supporting the commie democrats i guess they get what they supported
Another reason the UAW pizzes me off. I was once a UAW member in the late sixties through the early 70's before & after my military service. Even back around 1972 some of the old timers I worked with were making comments like "This union ain't what it used to be". I know a lot of their own members don't approve of the way it's run and I can't understand some of the stuff they do and some of the people they endorse. It's not just the UAW either; a lot of our unions seem to be run by commie socialists. WTF?
I don't know how much GM stuff is made in Mexico. I know Chrysler makes stuff there. Wife had a 2015 Dodge Journey that was made in Mexico. How much GM stuff is assembled down there?
The government imposes regulations and taxes that make it more costly or prohibitive to manufacture, produce or create things in this country. The unions protect non-productive workers and make it even more cost prohibitive to do business in this country. Then they both blame industry for moving out of the country while the consumers want inexpensive stuff. Cant have it both ways.
I was building a plant in Mexico in 2016 (served Mexican market, we have many plants domestically and all over Europe as well). Drove by the GM plant in Guanajato/Silao (not sure which city it technically was). GM 1/2 ton trucks as far as you could see. Had to be 1000s of them. Being loaded on rail cars.
What I’m saying isn’t really a surprise, we all know it. Just different when you see it.
I think the Average wage around there was $3/hour or so and they were happy to get it.
Some time back I had a video tape that showed a bunch of the factories in mexico and a lot of the stuff they made that American companies couldn't get made here because of what it costs here to build things. I remember one thing the mexicans were building was wiring harnesses for the then current American air force fighter jets
Many of the factories had a complete city of sorts with housing and all the facilities for the workers. Medical, schools, stores, the whole works . Might have had burial services too. I don't remember
Chevy, the heart be of America, lol. Like a rock. I’ll buy Toyota.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp 7203. Toyota will shift production of the Sequoia in 2022 to Texas and that plant will end production of the Tacoma by late 2021. ... Toyota has been building Tacoma trucks at its Baja California plant in Mexico since 2004.Jan 17, 2020
As part of a restructuring effort to better align its plants, products, and platforms, Toyota will cease Texas-based production of the mid-size Tacoma in late 2021, moving all production efforts for the mid-size truck down to two facilities in Mexico.
I don't know how much of my 2017 Ram was made in Mexico but the springs were for sure. Rebuilt one Cummins and the connecting rods were made in Brazil and so marked. Theoretically, if mexicans have good jobs and living conditions, they won't be tempted to move to north. Trouble is, they, like so many others, refuse to accept birth control as being of any value and their country is over populated too. GD
My 2019 Chevy Colorado has a sticker on it that says "Assembled With Pride in Wentzville, Missouri." I can't vouch for where all the parts came from for that assembly though.
Yup, traded my 2011 made in Mexico Silverado for a 2013 Tundra made in Texas. Wasn't real happy with Toyota's options at the time, like no built in brake controller with the towing package, but it's a much better truck, imho.
Chevy, the heart be of America, lol. Like a rock. I’ll buy Toyota.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp 7203. Toyota will shift production of the Sequoia in 2022 to Texas and that plant will end production of the Tacoma by late 2021. ... Toyota has been building Tacoma trucks at its Baja California plant in Mexico since 2004.Jan 17, 2020
As part of a restructuring effort to better align its plants, products, and platforms, Toyota will cease Texas-based production of the mid-size Tacoma in late 2021, moving all production efforts for the mid-size truck down to two facilities in Mexico.
And Toyota did rip off the tax payers ike GM union members
Unions are necessary to protect the hard working American worker. Ask a drunk brain washed union member at his job site . They'll educate you on this true fact
Chevy, the heart be of America, lol. Like a rock. I’ll buy Toyota.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp 7203. Toyota will shift production of the Sequoia in 2022 to Texas and that plant will end production of the Tacoma by late 2021. ... Toyota has been building Tacoma trucks at its Baja California plant in Mexico since 2004.Jan 17, 2020
As part of a restructuring effort to better align its plants, products, and platforms, Toyota will cease Texas-based production of the mid-size Tacoma in late 2021, moving all production efforts for the mid-size truck down to two facilities in Mexico.
And Toyota did rip off the tax payers ike GM union members
My 2018 Dodge diesel was made in Mexico. Do they make anything in Detroit?? Them union car builders priced themselves out of jobs.
Remember that old ad campaign that said imported from Detroit. It didn't make sense to me until I spent some time in Detroit. Makes me think of the Trump s-hole countries comment.
My 2018 Dodge diesel was made in Mexico. Do they make anything in Detroit?? Them union car builders priced themselves out of jobs.
Last truck I bought new in 2018, the Toyota Tundra was in the same price range as Ford and GM. Same thing when I bought a Buick SUV last year compared to Toyota and Nissan. Wonder how come?
My 2018 Dodge diesel was made in Mexico. Do they make anything in Detroit?? Them union car builders priced themselves out of jobs.
The average wages for a non skilled worker (line worker) in the UAW is approximately $60,000 per year. The salary of the CEO'S of the big 3 range from roughly $14.5 million to $21.5 million. Pretty sure the blame can't be placed solely on UAW members. Unless of course you all think that the salaries of the CEO's aren't included in the price of a vehicle.
In Greer SC is the huge BMW plant. Every BMW SUV in North America is made there. Non union of course. But half of that car is made in Mexico. I spent 8 years driving for a trucking company and all we did was go back and forth from Greer to Laredo. Tail light assemblies, cast aluminum wheels, even transmissions hecho en Mexico.
Back around 2010 had a GMC Sierra I was going to trade on a new one. Every Sierra on the lot was made in Mexico. Bought a Silverado, instead. Most of my Chevy trucks have been made in Indiana. One back in the late 60s, was made in Canada. None from Mexico, so far? Ain't much made here that doesn't have lots of foreign parts these days.
Once saw a small Pontiac SUV on the lot (2007?). Window sticker said engine/transmission made in USA, car assembled in China.
Had two Dodge trucks, don't want another one. Although I know a few guys that loved Tundras for awhile, but now drive RAMs, since they get much better fuel mileage than their Tundras did. Several of those new RAMs were hecho en Mexico.
Fords? Most of my farmer kin have been driving Ford trucks since the 60s. They kept on buying them, despite the rust and other issues thru the 70s and 80s. They all live in the northern parts of PA, where road salt is tough on steel. Doubt aluminum will be much better, as it corrodes.
Prouduction of parts on the scale necessary to support the auto industry is a dirty industry. Think casting iron and aluminum, moulding plastic parts, stamping steel and aluminum body parts, making tires, machining parts, etc. Government regulation has driven a lot of this production to third world countries. I would not think assembly of those parts is a particularly dirty industry.
It really wasn't a thread I started about were vehicles were made but more about pointing out Trump was doing everything he could to bring back manufacturering to the good ole U.S.A and the Democraps do everything to ship jobs everywhere but the U.S.A. Thes union members need to take back there unions.
GM is gonna spend a BILLION DOLLARS in mexico for electric cars and the UAW is mad. Wonder if the UAW still endorses Biden they will never learn supporting the commie democrats i guess they get what they supported
They will ALWAYS support democrats as long as the DNC pumps back side money into the UAW. Any complaints are purely grandstand for the membership. I’m not sure who taught who this way of doing business, politicians or the unions.
Another reason the UAW pizzes me off. I was once a UAW member in the late sixties through the early 70's before & after my military service. Even back around 1972 some of the old timers I worked with were making comments like "This union ain't what it used to be". I know a lot of their own members don't approve of the way it's run and I can't understand some of the stuff they do and some of the people they endorse. It's not just the UAW either; a lot of our unions seem to be run by commie socialists. WTF?
Labor unions are the basis of the Marxist System.
The former USSR was the United Socialist Soviet Republic. A Soviet is a Labor Union, which is the most basic political subdivision in the "Soviet" system, and hence why it's in the name.
The government imposes regulations and taxes that make it more costly or prohibitive to manufacture, produce or create things in this country. The unions protect non-productive workers and make it even more cost prohibitive to do business in this country. Then they both blame industry for moving out of the country while the consumers want inexpensive stuff. Cant have it both ways.
Though that has been the case very often I know of a business that took a big chunk of their manufacturing south of the border and it was when Trump was in office. He made it far easier to stay here than any president in my lifetime. They left over stockholder greed.
Another reason the UAW pizzes me off. I was once a UAW member in the late sixties through the early 70's before & after my military service. Even back around 1972 some of the old timers I worked with were making comments like "This union ain't what it used to be". I know a lot of their own members don't approve of the way it's run and I can't understand some of the stuff they do and some of the people they endorse. It's not just the UAW either; a lot of our unions seem to be run by commie socialists. WTF?
Labor unions are the basis of the Marxist System.
The former USSR was the United Socialist Soviet Republic. A Soviet is a Labor Union, which is the most basic political subdivision in the "Soviet" system, and hence why it's in the name.
Big corporate profits and growth growth growth? Yes please!
Good wages for the workers? No thanks!
Not that at all , if you have a cull sheep you cut it out of the herd.
GM is cull... fact.
If Ford is your prize bull you're fugking the American consumer with, you're going to have a lot of retarded 3-legged calves. Unless you like sending profits to Japan? Wagyu is some awesome shidt, but I can be very happy with an American steak.
Back around 2010 had a GMC Sierra I was going to trade on a new one. Every Sierra on the lot was made in Mexico. Bought a Silverado, instead. Most of my Chevy trucks have been made in Indiana. One back in the late 60s, was made in Canada. None from Mexico, so far? Ain't much made here that doesn't have lots of foreign parts these days.
Once saw a small Pontiac SUV on the lot (2007?). Window sticker said engine/transmission made in USA, car assembled in China.
Had two Dodge trucks, don't want another one. Although I know a few guys that loved Tundras for awhile, but now drive RAMs, since they get much better fuel mileage than their Tundras did. Several of those new RAMs were hecho en Mexico.
Fords? Most of my farmer kin have been driving Ford trucks since the 60s. They kept on buying them, despite the rust and other issues thru the 70s and 80s. They all live in the northern parts of PA, where road salt is tough on steel. Doubt aluminum will be much better, as it corrodes.
Buy whatcha wanta buy. Doesn't bother me.
Ram makes the engines in Mexico, the truck itself is made in Michigan.
The very first newer club cab Dodges were built in Mexico for years. Might still be. Guess what. They were no cheaper than the Chevy or Ford that were built in the USA at the time. Edk
There might be something worthwhile come out of them, maybe, except, guys can't have a factual conversation about. stuff like this.
Their self worth is so tied to a stupid ass pickup, that to be honest about their brand, would be like cutting off their balls.
Ford was building stuff in Mexico when I worked at the local dealer. 1987! Oh, they also benefited from bailouts!
ChuckKy mentions Toyota charging the same as GM. Yet we hear of unions and legacy costs adding around $3k to a GM. What gives there?
Gotta love the Toyota American Plant arguments.
Chrysler/Benz/Fiat? Are they American?
GM getting a pass, since this thread is their Ox Goring.
Right now there is Chevy, Dodge and Ford in our driveway. Used to be a Subaru. Only POS I've ever owned was a T-bird. By a 100k i had the heads done and a tranny in it. A Hyundai was close but it left quick.
Ain't nobody building something like a car in the US. Period. Hell, not even all parts of chainsaws! That's a huge issue and a dam shame. Something that needs fixed.
But not by a bunch of dimwits, busy beating up on some brand. Just to feel better about the pile of imported parts in their drivway.
Another reason the UAW pizzes me off. I was once a UAW member in the late sixties through the early 70's before & after my military service. Even back around 1972 some of the old timers I worked with were making comments like "This union ain't what it used to be". I know a lot of their own members don't approve of the way it's run and I can't understand some of the stuff they do and some of the people they endorse. It's not just the UAW either; a lot of our unions seem to be run by commie socialists. WTF?
Labor unions are the basis of the Marxist System.
The former USSR was the United Socialist Soviet Republic. A Soviet is a Labor Union, which is the most basic political subdivision in the "Soviet" system, and hence why it's in the name.
AS, you might want to double check what USSR actually denotes. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and a soviet has different meanings in Russian history.
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