Mass Murders (Now "Active Shooters")

Unfortunately, I gotta study this stuff. It always boils down to crazy people killing unarmed people (duh). The caveat is that most of the time, these unarmed people have a lot of influence.

What do you mean "these unarmed..."?
In death or before?

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Unfortunately, I gotta study this stuff. It always boils down to crazy people killing unarmed people (duh). The caveat is that most of the time, these unarmed people have a lot of influence.

Mass shootings scare "normal people" because they usually happen where they hang out. Nobody cares about drug gang shootouts in the 'hood because nobody goes there.

Originally Posted by UPhiker

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Unfortunately, I gotta study this stuff. It always boils down to crazy people killing unarmed people (duh). The caveat is that most of the time, these unarmed people have a lot of influence.

Mass shootings scare "normal people" because they usually happen where they hang out. Nobody cares about drug gang shootouts in the 'hood because nobody goes there.

Plus 1

Most people today do not value liberties or the ideals that this country was founded on. So any politician offering to make them feel safe even if an illusion, they eat it up.

Media buzzword.

Again.

Like:

Saturday Night Special.

Assault Rifle.

Trump Supporter.

Conservatives.

Nazi.

The media is the unchecked/unsanctioned branch of govt. now.

Originally Posted by UPhiker

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Unfortunately, I gotta study this stuff. It always boils down to crazy people killing unarmed people (duh). The caveat is that most of the time, these unarmed people have a lot of influence.

Mass shootings scare "normal people" because they usually happen where they hang out. Nobody cares about drug gang shootouts in the 'hood because nobody goes there.

That's because losing a gunfight is no guarantee of instant victimhood. Bringing your child to the gunfight doesn't automatically quality them either.

Look a Chitcago.
Given the size of the city and the areas with the majority of
the murders, it's a small area. And it's poor. And black.

No one cares.
Except the undertaker and the ghoulish politicians.
Dey be making bank off dat chit.

Look at Jackson MS.

On of the top in the country for deaths. Jackson proper.

Ever so often I’ll check the Jxn news.

Thursday night.

Top 3 stories.

1. Murder
2. Murder
3. Murder

Wanna guess the demographics involved?

That's a different dynamic.

the only reason there are mass murders is that the majority of people don't carry. I do every day even though I'm breaking the law.

Originally Posted by ltppowell

That's a different dynamic.

That’s true.

But the numbers are lumped together.

Originally Posted by stxhunter

the only reason there are mass murders is that the majority of people don't carry. I do every day even though I'm breaking the law.

I’m w you stxhunter...judged by twelve rather than carried by six.

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Unfortunately, I gotta study this stuff. It always boils down to crazy people killing unarmed people (duh). The caveat is that most of the time, these unarmed people have a lot of influence.

John Lott was on American Thought Leaders recently.

https://podtail.com/podcast/america...trol-doesn-t-reduce-crime-john-lott-bre/

Originally Posted by gkt5450

Originally Posted by stxhunter

the only reason there are mass murders is that the majority of people don't carry. I do every day even though I'm breaking the law.

I’m w you stxhunter...judged by twelve rather than carried by six.

What places can't you carry in Texas?

Originally Posted by UPhiker

Originally Posted by gkt5450

Originally Posted by stxhunter

the only reason there are mass murders is that the majority of people don't carry. I do every day even though I'm breaking the law.

I’m w you stxhunter...judged by twelve rather than carried by six.

What places can't you carry in Texas?

I don't have a CCL and don't plan on getting one.

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

But the “leaders” are against guns all the while being surrounded by folks with guns.

Originally Posted by BigDave39355

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

But the “leaders” are against guns all the while being surrounded by folks with guns.

Yeah well fuuck them. They'll sit down STFU and do as they're told if enough of us tell them to. They just need to be reminded who is the servant and who are their masters is all.

Hopefully enough of us will stand up before the gunfight.

Originally Posted by stxhunter

the only reason there are mass murders is that the majority of people don't carry. I do every day even though I'm breaking the law.

But that's just it, you're not breaking the law. The shytbags that made the law contrary to the constitution are the real law beakers.

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by BigDave39355

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

But the “leaders” are against guns all the while being surrounded by folks with guns.

Yeah well fuuck them. They'll sit down STFU and do as they're told if enough of us tell them to. They just need to be reminded who is the servant and who are their masters is all.

Andy's waiting for your visit. I'm sure he'll listen.

Some laws are made to be broken, I'll take my chances, be damn if I'll be a victim without a fight.

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by stxhunter

the only reason there are mass murders is that the majority of people don't carry. I do every day even though I'm breaking the law.

But that's just it, you're not breaking the law. The shytbags that made the law contrary to the constitution are the real law beakers.

Agree.

Originally Posted by UPhiker

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by BigDave39355

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

But the “leaders” are against guns all the while being surrounded by folks with guns.

Yeah well fuuck them. They'll sit down STFU and do as they're told if enough of us tell them to. They just need to be reminded who is the servant and who are their masters is all.

Andy's waiting for your visit. I'm sure he'll listen.

I can't do it by myself. I'm ready any time but you'll have to get off your dead ass too. Right along with everybody else who knows what the truth of the matter is.

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by BigDave39355

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

But the “leaders” are against guns all the while being surrounded by folks with guns.

Yeah well fuuck them. They'll sit down STFU and do as they're told if enough of us tell them to. They just need to be reminded who is the servant and who are their masters is all.

That's kinda where I was trying to go. The kind of people that are victims of this stuff are generally anti-gun (not always) as are there survivers. There response is never "we should have been armed". It's always "Nobody should have guns.".

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by BigDave39355

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

But the “leaders” are against guns all the while being surrounded by folks with guns.

Yeah well fuuck them. They'll sit down STFU and do as they're told if enough of us tell them to. They just need to be reminded who is the servant and who are their masters is all.

That's kinda where I was trying to go. The kind of people that are victims of this stuff are generally anti-gun (not always) as are there survivers. There response is never "we should have been armed". It's always "Nobody should have guns.".

Yep, and that's what we need to change. These people need to be and should be pissed that their constitutional rights are being denied and consequently they've been turned into defenseless victims.

The other point I was aiming at is that those people are usually very affluent, whether financially or politically. You don't see a lot of "active shooter at the Dollar Store" incidents.

When ATF - DHS pulls up in your yard demanding your guns, my guess is 90% of the legal gun owners will hand their guns over. And then to make matters worse they'll let them search their house for more. After January 6th and then again on January 20th, we the people proved we are pussies. Tough talk is just tough talk.

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by BigDave39355

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

But the “leaders” are against guns all the while being surrounded by folks with guns.

Yeah well fuuck them. They'll sit down STFU and do as they're told if enough of us tell them to. They just need to be reminded who is the servant and who are their masters is all.

That's kinda where I was trying to go. The kind of people that are victims of this stuff are generally anti-gun (not always) as are there survivers. There response is never "we should have been armed". It's always "Nobody should have guns.".

Typically, the “victims” are sheep. They’ll bleat, and bleat to whoever will listen to them about how guns are evil.

But, a victim who is a gun person doesn’t blame the gun. He blames the shooter or the gun free zone that prevented a persons ability to protect themselves.

The anti gun people will tell him/her to shut up and sit down...And, they certainly won’t put them on the news to make their case for not being able to legally carry a firearm for self defense due to liberal, feel good, gun laws.

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Originally Posted by Beaver10

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by BigDave39355

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

But the “leaders” are against guns all the while being surrounded by folks with guns.

Yeah well fuuck them. They'll sit down STFU and do as they're told if enough of us tell them to. They just need to be reminded who is the servant and who are their masters is all.

That's kinda where I was trying to go. The kind of people that are victims of this stuff are generally anti-gun (not always) as are there survivers. There response is never "we should have been armed". It's always "Nobody should have guns.".

Typically, the “victims” are sheep. They’ll bleat, and bleat to whoever will listen to them about how guns are evil.

But, a victim who is a gun person doesn’t blame the gun. He blames the shooter or the gun free zone that prevented a persons ability to protect themselves.

The anti gun people will tell him/her to shut up and sit down...And, they certainly won’t put them on the news to make their case for not being able to legally carry a firearm for self defense due to liberal, feel good, gun laws.

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most of the good guys in history have been outlaws.

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Unfortunately, I gotta study this stuff. It always boils down to crazy people killing unarmed people (duh). The caveat is that most of the time, these unarmed people have a lot of influence.

Wish to hell more of the "lords work" could have/would have been done then you could just go fishing.

Originally Posted by TrueGrit

When ATF - DHS pulls up in your yard demanding your guns, my guess is 90% of the legal gun owners will hand their guns over. And then to make matters worse they'll let them search their house for more. After January 6th and then again on January 20th, we the people proved we are pussies. Tough talk is just tough talk.

Actually I don't think the festivities on Jan 6 proved the people are pussies at all. Just the opposite in fact. The gov't knows it and that realization scares the shyt out of them. If that whole crowd had of wanted and been determined to take DC they could have done it. No if's and's or but's about it.

Originally Posted by ltppowell

The other point I was aiming at is that those people are usually very affluent, whether financially or politically. You don't see a lot of "active shooter at the Dollar Store" incidents.

Or just a shooting @ DG is just a shooting.

Side note.
I wonder the % of theft / loss that DG has due to the rural campaign they have.

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by TrueGrit

When ATF - DHS pulls up in your yard demanding your guns, my guess is 90% of the legal gun owners will hand their guns over. And then to make matters worse they'll let them search their house for more. After January 6th and then again on January 20th, we the people proved we are pussies. Tough talk is just tough talk.

Actually I don't think the festivities on Jan 6 proved the people are pussies at all. Just the opposite in fact. The gov't knows it and that realization scares the shyt out of them. If that whole crowd had of wanted and been determined to take DC they could have done it. No if's and's or but's about it.

I agree. The first thing you have to do is identify the enemy. Is it the couple of hundred "Government" or the few billionaires that own them? I truly don't know the answer. It's a chicken or egg first kinda thing.

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by TrueGrit

When ATF - DHS pulls up in your yard demanding your guns, my guess is 90% of the legal gun owners will hand their guns over. And then to make matters worse they'll let them search their house for more. After January 6th and then again on January 20th, we the people proved we are pussies. Tough talk is just tough talk.

Actually I don't think the festivities on Jan 6 proved the people are pussies at all. Just the opposite in fact. The gov't knows it and that realization scares the shyt out of them. If that whole crowd had of wanted and been determined to take DC they could have done it. No if's and's or but's about it.

I agree. The first thing you have to do is identify the enemy. Is it the couple of hundred "Government" or the few billionaires that own them? I truly don't know the answer. It's a chicken or egg first kinda thing.

Of course I don't know either but I think they are both to blame.

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by TrueGrit

When ATF - DHS pulls up in your yard demanding your guns, my guess is 90% of the legal gun owners will hand their guns over. And then to make matters worse they'll let them search their house for more. After January 6th and then again on January 20th, we the people proved we are pussies. Tough talk is just tough talk.

Actually I don't think the festivities on Jan 6 proved the people are pussies at all. Just the opposite in fact. The gov't knows it and that realization scares the shyt out of them. If that whole crowd had of wanted and been determined to take DC they could have done it. No if's and's or but's about it.

I agree. The first thing you have to do is identify the enemy. Is it the couple of hundred "Government" or the few billionaires that own them? I truly don't know the answer. It's a chicken or egg first kinda thing.

Of course I don't know either but I think they are both to blame.

You're right, but it would be stupid of me to not admit that it is really the people paying those millionaires that are really at fault.

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by BigDave39355

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Seems the mass shootings always take place in a "gun free zone". It's a shame to see what happens to these "victims" but they are the ones who allowed the gov't to ignore the 2nd amendment and disarm them. We need to turn their thinking around and put the blame for these shootings right smack where it belongs. On the shoulders of the gov't and liberal voters for ignoring/violating the 2nd amendment and turning citizens into easy, defenseless victims because that is exactly what they've done and who has done it.

But the “leaders” are against guns all the while being surrounded by folks with guns.

Yeah well fuuck them. They'll sit down STFU and do as they're told if enough of us tell them to. They just need to be reminded who is the servant and who are their masters is all.

That's kinda where I was trying to go. The kind of people that are victims of this stuff are generally anti-gun (not always) as are there survivers. There response is never "we should have been armed". It's always "Nobody should have guns.".

Your making way too much sense LT. Libertards are too damn stupid to understand that.

Barry's buzzword ID was on the mark. And, every mouthy gun control person I have encountered has been a hypocrite.

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Unfortunately, I gotta study this stuff. It always boils down to crazy people killing unarmed people (duh). The caveat is that most of the time, these unarmed people have a lot of influence.

ever notice how this stuff spikes right before some leftist politicians are busy trying to put a 100,000 new gun laws on us?

I don't think they will ever take everyone's guns away from the public.... this crap is part of their platform.... just like the democRATS have to keep racism alive, because it is part of their platform... they have nothing to replace it....they want to "end racism" supposedly, while they are busy being the biggest racists around....

personally I think these massacre's are performed by leftist useful idiots, on specific orders.. ya know, " take one for the team"
random shootings to take random casualties, to promote their agenda and providing the media with the usual "Shock factor"
What I am saying is Anti Gun politicians are having random citizens killed to keep this agenda in the head lines...

Their main intent to disarm this nation, is to make it easier for China to take over this nation without firing a shot, so the democRAT party members will be made and paid to be our social elite, and the rest of us turned into peasants...

If you can't see this playing out right now, ya gotta be on cruise control.

before Biden is out of office, China will have a naval base in Hawaii, and probably Alaska... and Biden will be the one giving it to them.. and if he is medically out of action, it will be Commie Harris....

If you ever wanna read up on/study a bizarre crime spree, look into the DC sniper killings.

Flat fugking crazy.

Originally Posted by ltppowell

The other point I was aiming at is that those people are usually very affluent, whether financially or politically. You don't see a lot of "active shooter at the Dollar Store" incidents.

I don't know how many Jason Aldean concerts you been to, but your and my idea of "affluent" may be different.

LOL

Originally Posted by rockinbbar

Media buzzword.

Again.

Like:

Saturday Night Special.

Assault Rifle.

Trump Supporter.

Conservatives.

Nazi.

The media is the unchecked/unsanctioned branch of govt. now.

"Such as it is, the press has become the greatest power within the Western World, more powerful than the legislature, the executive and judiciary. One would like to ask; by whom has it been elected and to whom is it responsible?"

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Originally Posted by deflave

Originally Posted by ltppowell

The other point I was aiming at is that those people are usually very affluent, whether financially or politically. You don't see a lot of "active shooter at the Dollar Store" incidents.

I don't know how many Jason Aldean concerts you been to, but your and my idea of "affluent" may be different.

LOL

"Influential" was actually the word I intended to use, rather than "affluent". Like Chris Rock said, not all hostages are good bargaining chips.

Originally Posted by rockinbbar

Media buzzword.

Again.

Like:

Saturday Night Special.

Assault Rifle.

Trump Supporter.

Conservatives.

Nazi.

The media is the unchecked/unsanctioned branch of govt. now.

Add one more "Ghost Guns".