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Suspect still barricaded, SWAT and other officers still engaging him actively.

https://kvia.com/news/texas/2021/07/15/4-officers-shot-2-critically-hurt-in-west-texas-standoff/

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LEVELLAND, Texas -- Four officers have been shot and wounded, two critically, as a standoff continues with a man barricaded in a house in a small west Texas town.

The standoff ensued Thursday afternoon on a residential street in Levelland, about 30 miles west of Lubbock.

Details are sketchy, but three of the wounded officers were taken to a Lubbock hospital while one went to a Levelland hospital, which placed itself on lockdown.

In a social media posting, the Levelland Police Department said one of the wounded officers is part of its force while others are from multiple police agencies assisting its response.


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Update: There are four wounded law enforcement officers. One has been confirmed as a Levelland Police Officer. Two of the wounded are critical. Prayers for all law enforcement as they continue trying to resolve this dangerous situation.
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At this time, local law enforcement is dealing with a barricaded subject in the 1100 block of 10th Street, between Ave J & Ave I. There are three wounded Levelland Police Officers. All have been transported to Lubbock. Other agencies, including Hockley County Sheriff's Office, DPS and Lubbock S.W.A.T., are onsite. Please avoid this area, and allow law enforcement to keep the area secure.
Well scheidt, that sucks.
Jeebus,wasn't there one there yesterday where SWAT was in a shoot out and the perp is now room temp.?
One team member took one in the vest,but will be ok.
Looking at what all resources they have there now, I wouldn't think the scumbag has much of a chance of surviving this.
One deputy now dead.

LEVELLAND, Texas (KCBD/Gray News) - According to the Justice of the Peace and Constables Association of Texas, Sgt. Josh Bartlett, SWAT Leader for Lubbock County Sheriff’s Office was killed in the Levelland SWAT standoff Thursday afternoon.

Two other deputies were shot and are in critical condition, KCBD reported. One is a Hockley County Officer and one is a Levelland police officer.

A Lubbock SWAT team is on scene dealing with a person barricaded in a house in the 1100 block of 10th Street in Levelland. Levelland police initially reported four officers injured.

Levelland police got the call at 1:12 p.m., there was a report of a subject who was possibly armed. The situation escalated after officers arrived and the subject barricaded himself inside the home. Our photographer on the scene heard shots fired around 3 p.m.

The Lubbock County Sheriff’s Office, Texas DPS, Levelland police, Hockley County Sheriff’s Office and the Levelland Sheriff’s Office are all on the scene. They have now been joined by the FBI, the ATF, a K9 unit, a gang unit, and the LPD Mobile Command Unit.
Looks like one of them may have passed
www.kwch.com/2021/07/15/west-texas-deputy-killed-swat-standoff-others-wounded/
Level that fuggin house
Terrible thing.
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.
Set fire to the house and shoot him as he tries to get out.
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


Innocent folks don't shoot at cops, or anyone for that matter. This shidt is getting old. Time for LEO's to start making a point.

You start shooting people, if it wasn't self defense and holing up in a structure doesn't help in self defense, you go down. No more touchy feely.
Prayers for the good guys!
If it was self defense, and you had to shoot most folks stay and cooperate.
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


True. Just out of curiosity though, what are the acceptable scenarios that you can imagine where you would shoot four LEO's, then barricade yourself in your house?
Texas is the new California.
Damn, Went to half my senior yr of high school just north of there in Littlefield, dated a girl from Levelland.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


True. Just out of curiosity though, what are the acceptable scenarios that you can imagine where you would shoot four LEO's, then barricade yourself in your house?


Hadn’t really envisioned a day that bad, just somehow got used to the idea
that a man was innocent until proven guilty, and thought we might wanna know what started it before we set the house on fire and burn him alive. Like I said, probably a dirtbag, but this is still America, and lynch mobs are still not a good thing.

Now, I will tell ya, if anyone tries kicking my door in in the night, things will get interesting, because I have done nothing to expect cops visiting me. So I would assume it was a home invasion, at least initially. Folks could die. Or if folks come trying to take my guns or dog, badges notwithstanding, folks will likely die. Don’t expect it, but there it is. Never been a divorced parent with little kids the State wants to place with a druggie ex, either. Probably more things that might tip that scale. Those are just the immediate possibilities.
And it is not a really large town.

They do have the south plains university but mostly oil and farming stuff.

Hope they get him.
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


Innocent folks don't shoot at cops, or anyone for that matter. This shidt is getting old. Time for LEO's to start making a point.

You start shooting people, if it wasn't self defense and holing up in a structure doesn't help in self defense, you go down. No more touchy feely.



Have you ever read of any innocent people killed by cops?
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


Innocent folks don't shoot at cops, or anyone for that matter. This shidt is getting old. Time for LEO's to start making a point.

You start shooting people, if it wasn't self defense and holing up in a structure doesn't help in self defense, you go down. No more touchy feely.



Have you ever read of any innocent people killed by cops?


Have you ever gone and phuukkt yourself?
George, what's his name?
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Damn, Went to half my senior yr of high school just north of there in Littlefield, dated a girl from Levelland.


Levelland was a nice little town when I was a kid. My Great Grandparents lived there. Used to visit often. We’d go hoe cotton with them. And pick black eyed peas.
She’d kill a couple of chickens for Sunday Dinner. I’ve still got her old Iron Skillet.
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


Innocent folks don't shoot at cops, or anyone for that matter. This shidt is getting old. Time for LEO's to start making a point.

You start shooting people, if it wasn't self defense and holing up in a structure doesn't help in self defense, you go down. No more touchy feely.



Have you ever read of any innocent people killed by cops?


Have you ever gone and phuukkt yourself?



I'm sorry Grindr isn't working for you tonight. Just as sorry for this nation that you are apparently too stupid to understand a simple question.
I'm betting it is illegal drug / meth related. It's a shame what's happened to a lot of those small towns in West Texas with all the meth heads around...My hometown in West Texas became a crap hole when Meth hit there. Used to be a town where you could leave your doors unlocked day or night and never worry, and every church in town was packed to capacity on Sundays.....Not anymore, people would rob their own grandma there now..
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


True. Just out of curiosity though, what are the acceptable scenarios that you can imagine where you would shoot four LEO's, then barricade yourself in your house?


Hadn’t really envisioned a day that bad, just somehow got used to the idea
that a man was innocent until proven guilty, and thought we might wanna know what started it before we set the house on fire and burn him alive. Like I said, probably a dirtbag, but this is still America, and lynch mobs are still not a good thing.

Now, I will tell ya, if anyone tries kicking my door in in the night, things will get interesting, because I have done nothing to expect cops visiting me. So I would assume it was a home invasion, at least initially. Folks could die. Or if folks come trying to take my guns or dog, badges notwithstanding, folks will likely die. Don’t expect it, but there it is. Never been a divorced parent with little kids the State wants to place with a druggie ex, either. Probably more things that might tip that scale. Those are just the immediate possibilities.


"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to someone shooting at you.
Whatever the reason, prayers are offered for the officers and their families.
The neighborhood looks like a bunch of small, single family homes. I hope no more cops get killed, shot.
Anyone heard from Slappy Hamster and Mountain Snake today?
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


Innocent folks don't shoot at cops, or anyone for that matter. This shidt is getting old. Time for LEO's to start making a point.

You start shooting people, if it wasn't self defense and holing up in a structure doesn't help in self defense, you go down. No more touchy feely.



Have you ever read of any innocent people killed by cops?


Vicki and Sam weaver to name two…. Taught my kids from day one that occupation or age are not measures of whom to show respect. Actions are. A badger doesn’t make you the good guys.
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A few rounds of 50AP will sort things out in short order.
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
I'm betting it is illegal drug / meth related. It's a shame what's happened to a lot of those small towns in West Texas with all the meth heads around...My hometown in West Texas became a crap hole when Meth hit there. Used to be a town where you could leave your doors unlocked day or night and never worry, and every church in town was packed to capacity on Sundays.....Not anymore, people would rob their own grandma there now..


Yep. Meth has ruined a lot of small TX towns. And Illegal Wetbacks too.
Like I mentioned earlier, Levelland was a nice little town when I was a kid.
Damn.
Damn +1
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


Innocent folks don't shoot at cops, or anyone for that matter. This shidt is getting old. Time for LEO's to start making a point.

You start shooting people, if it wasn't self defense and holing up in a structure doesn't help in self defense, you go down. No more touchy feely.



Have you ever read of any innocent people killed by cops?


Vicki and Sam weaver to name two…. Taught my kids from day one that occupation or age are not measures of whom to show respect. Actions are. A badger doesn’t make you the good guys.
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Hopefully, by now, some of you people realize what the FBI is.
they need a mex ,mob boss .. one of their informers just got out of jail and was met at the door of the jail with 63 personal bullets . and only 2 bullets missed and wounded 2 of his escorts ... they train their hit men very well ...
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
I'm betting it is illegal drug / meth related. It's a shame what's happened to a lot of those small towns in West Texas with all the meth heads around...My hometown in West Texas became a crap hole when Meth hit there. Used to be a town where you could leave your doors unlocked day or night and never worry, and every church in town was packed to capacity on Sundays.....Not anymore, people would rob their own grandma there now..


Yep. Meth has ruined a lot of small TX towns. And Illegal Wetbacks too.
Like I mentioned earlier, Levelland was a nice little town when I was a kid.


It wasn't the Mexicans around causing problems when I was growing up there...Those were some hardworking/ family supporting son of a guns. There children walked the line too, or took a good ole beat down from mom and dad... Probably a different breed of them coming to West Texas now though..

The biggest troublemakers back in the day were the oilfield rich white kids and their buddies, but even they were no problem, compared to the meth heads/ drug addicts....I haven't lived there in around 20 years, but still read the news some and hear a lot of stories from family that is still out there...
Wasn’t even two months ago that two LEO’s were shot and killed in Eden TX.

According to a witness account two Deputies went on the the shooter’s property to catch a dog that had bitten someone, the shooter told them to leave else he would shoot them, they reportedly rushed him and he did shoot them both.

That’s one witness’s account anyway.

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/au...ed-by-texas-deputies-in-yard-killed-them

I dunno how that one will play out. The shooter was talked into to surrendering by the Mayor, his longtime neighbor.

Sad day for all involved, most folks wouldn’t shoot two Cops over that.

I’m guessing this Levelland incident is different.
Geez. Sorry to hear about those officers.
It's always best to ask why the contact or attempt to arrest was made in the 1st place.

Remember Waco? Remember Ruby Ridge? Do a google search and see how many dozens of pages you can find where cops were in the wrong to some extent, all the way to 100% There are literally hundreds of them, or even thousands of them.

A barricaded man is not always a bad man and a cop is not always a good man.

When cops were more dedicated to their Oath of office we saw less of this kind of thing, but today most cops will get rough with you if you don't want to wear a surrender flag on you face and if you dare to stand for the Constitution yourself, many cops (thankfully not all) will do anything they can to "manufacture a crime".

. I think we need to know about the events leading up to this tragedy, but make NO decisions before we know why the arrest or contact.

Could be anything from dedicated cop-hating criminals just wanting to kill cops, to criminals willing to fight to Cops operating at the extreme edge of their constitutional power to cop just wanting to have an adventure at a citizens expense. Odds are this is a case of Cops VS Bad guys, but we can't assume that is true until we know more.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Wasn’t even two months ago that two LEO’s were shot and killed in Eden TX.

According to a witness account two Deputies went on the the shooter’s property to catch a dog that had bitten someone, the shooter told them to leave else he would shoot them, they reportedly rushed him and he did shoot them both.

That’s one witness’s account anyway.

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/au...ed-by-texas-deputies-in-yard-killed-them

I dunno how that one will play out. The shooter was talked into to surrendering by the Mayor, his longtime neighbor.

Sad day for all involved, most folks wouldn’t shoot two Cops over that.

I’m guessing this Levelland incident is different.


I remember seeing that one on the Local News. And the Officer’s funerals too. Bad deal.
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
I'm betting it is illegal drug / meth related. It's a shame what's happened to a lot of those small towns in West Texas with all the meth heads around...My hometown in West Texas became a crap hole when Meth hit there. Used to be a town where you could leave your doors unlocked day or night and never worry, and every church in town was packed to capacity on Sundays.....Not anymore, people would rob their own grandma there now..


Yep. Meth has ruined a lot of small TX towns. And Illegal Wetbacks too.
Like I mentioned earlier, Levelland was a nice little town when I was a kid.


It wasn't the Mexicans around causing problems when I was growing up there...Those were some hardworking/ family supporting son of a guns. There children walked the line too, or took a good ole beat down from mom and dad... Probably a different breed of them coming to West Texas now though...I haven't lived there in around 20 years, but still read the news some and hear a lot of stories from family that is still out there...


The Legal Mexicans were fine. I’ve never had a problem with any of them.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


True. Just out of curiosity though, what are the acceptable scenarios that you can imagine where you would shoot four LEO's, then barricade yourself in your house?


Hadn’t really envisioned a day that bad, just somehow got used to the idea
that a man was innocent until proven guilty, and thought we might wanna know what started it before we set the house on fire and burn him alive. Like I said, probably a dirtbag, but this is still America, and lynch mobs are still not a good thing.

Now, I will tell ya, if anyone tries kicking my door in in the night, things will get interesting, because I have done nothing to expect cops visiting me. So I would assume it was a home invasion, at least initially. Folks could die. Or if folks come trying to take my guns or dog, badges notwithstanding, folks will likely die. Don’t expect it, but there it is. Never been a divorced parent with little kids the State wants to place with a druggie ex, either. Probably more things that might tip that scale. Those are just the immediate possibilities.


"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to someone shooting at you.


When you show up on a scene. and two people are shooting at one another, you just shoot them both? Or try to figure out what’s happening? A lot of folks here say shoot whichever one they deem less acceptable, which currently happens to be the not a cop. As stated, I suspect the guy iis a dirtbag, but we don’t KNOW that yet. And yet some want to burn the house and shoot the guy. Look, anyone who waits to hear the full story before calling for a resolution isn’t hating anyone. Folks like that have been known to keep a lynch mob off an innocent man at times. Might be a welcome fella if it was YOU the mob was after.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
I'm betting it is illegal drug / meth related. It's a shame what's happened to a lot of those small towns in West Texas with all the meth heads around...My hometown in West Texas became a crap hole when Meth hit there. Used to be a town where you could leave your doors unlocked day or night and never worry, and every church in town was packed to capacity on Sundays.....Not anymore, people would rob their own grandma there now..


Yep. Meth has ruined a lot of small TX towns. And Illegal Wetbacks too.
Like I mentioned earlier, Levelland was a nice little town when I was a kid.


It wasn't the Mexicans around causing problems when I was growing up there...Those were some hardworking/ family supporting son of a guns. There children walked the line too, or took a good ole beat down from mom and dad... Probably a different breed of them coming to West Texas now though...I haven't lived there in around 20 years, but still read the news some and hear a lot of stories from family that is still out there...


The Legal Mexicans were fine. I’ve never had a problem with my of them.


Lol...Texicans are the salt of the earth...been here for hundreds of years. They fought and died to get away from Mexico and Central America.
That hasn't changed. Texas is "flyover" land for illegals. They don't come to America to mow grass in n Del Rio. They come to work in NYC, Chicago, etc.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
I'm betting it is illegal drug / meth related. It's a shame what's happened to a lot of those small towns in West Texas with all the meth heads around...My hometown in West Texas became a crap hole when Meth hit there. Used to be a town where you could leave your doors unlocked day or night and never worry, and every church in town was packed to capacity on Sundays.....Not anymore, people would rob their own grandma there now..


Yep. Meth has ruined a lot of small TX towns. And Illegal Wetbacks too.
Like I mentioned earlier, Levelland was a nice little town when I was a kid.


It wasn't the Mexicans around causing problems when I was growing up there...Those were some hardworking/ family supporting son of a guns. There children walked the line too, or took a good ole beat down from mom and dad... Probably a different breed of them coming to West Texas now though...I haven't lived there in around 20 years, but still read the news some and hear a lot of stories from family that is still out there...


The Legal Mexicans were fine. I’ve never had a problem with my of them.


Lol...Texicans are the salt of the earth...been here for hundreds of years. They fought and died to get away from Mexico and Central America.
That hasn't changed. Texas is "flyover" land for illegals. They don't come to America to mow grass in n Del Rio. They come to work in NYC, Chicago, etc.


Yep.
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


True. Just out of curiosity though, what are the acceptable scenarios that you can imagine where you would shoot four LEO's, then barricade yourself in your house?


Hadn’t really envisioned a day that bad, just somehow got used to the idea
that a man was innocent until proven guilty, and thought we might wanna know what started it before we set the house on fire and burn him alive. Like I said, probably a dirtbag, but this is still America, and lynch mobs are still not a good thing.

Now, I will tell ya, if anyone tries kicking my door in in the night, things will get interesting, because I have done nothing to expect cops visiting me. So I would assume it was a home invasion, at least initially. Folks could die. Or if folks come trying to take my guns or dog, badges notwithstanding, folks will likely die. Don’t expect it, but there it is. Never been a divorced parent with little kids the State wants to place with a druggie ex, either. Probably more things that might tip that scale. Those are just the immediate possibilities.


"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to someone shooting at you.


When you show up on a scene. and two people are shooting at one another, you just shoot them both? Or try to figure out what’s happening? A lot of folks here say shoot whichever one they deem less acceptable, which currently happens to be the not a cop. As stated, I suspect the guy iis a dirtbag, but we don’t KNOW that yet. And yet some want to burn the house and shoot the guy. Look, anyone who waits to hear the full story before calling for a resolution isn’t hating anyone. Folks like that have been known to keep a lynch mob off an innocent man at times. Might be a welcome fella if it was YOU the mob was after.


And a few people on here are Marxist trolls who think any dead cop is a good thing. Fortunately, none of them are not as smart as they think they are.
Prayers sent for this terrible situation.
Any updates on this???
Not seeing anything about it.


Hope they dont take this POS alive.....
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


True. Just out of curiosity though, what are the acceptable scenarios that you can imagine where you would shoot four LEO's, then barricade yourself in your house?


Hadn’t really envisioned a day that bad, just somehow got used to the idea
that a man was innocent until proven guilty, and thought we might wanna know what started it before we set the house on fire and burn him alive. Like I said, probably a dirtbag, but this is still America, and lynch mobs are still not a good thing.

Now, I will tell ya, if anyone tries kicking my door in in the night, things will get interesting, because I have done nothing to expect cops visiting me. So I would assume it was a home invasion, at least initially. Folks could die. Or if folks come trying to take my guns or dog, badges notwithstanding, folks will likely die. Don’t expect it, but there it is. Never been a divorced parent with little kids the State wants to place with a druggie ex, either. Probably more things that might tip that scale. Those are just the immediate possibilities.


"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to someone shooting at you.


When you show up on a scene. and two people are shooting at one another, you just shoot them both? Or try to figure out what’s happening? A lot of folks here say shoot whichever one they deem less acceptable, which currently happens to be the not a cop. As stated, I suspect the guy iis a dirtbag, but we don’t KNOW that yet. And yet some want to burn the house and shoot the guy. Look, anyone who waits to hear the full story before calling for a resolution isn’t hating anyone. Folks like that have been known to keep a lynch mob off an innocent man at times. Might be a welcome fella if it was YOU the mob was after.


And a few people on here are Marxist trolls who think any dead cop is a good thing. Fortunately, none of them are not as smart as they think they are.


Or as tough as they pretend to be.
Originally Posted by renegade50
Any updates on this???
Not seeing anything about it.


Hope they dont take this POS alive.....



Latest I’ve seen says the shooter was still barricaded as of 8:00pm.
They cant do many things to reduce that house with him in it.
Especially if it is in a neighbor setting.

They need to gas the fugg outta the place at the least.
Hopefully the POS has no hostage or hostages.
They might be waiting on assets to arrive???

This guy needs to never hear his rights and be covered up by a sheet in a ambulance ride ....
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


True. Just out of curiosity though, what are the acceptable scenarios that you can imagine where you would shoot four LEO's, then barricade yourself in your house?


Hadn’t really envisioned a day that bad, just somehow got used to the idea
that a man was innocent until proven guilty, and thought we might wanna know what started it before we set the house on fire and burn him alive. Like I said, probably a dirtbag, but this is still America, and lynch mobs are still not a good thing.

Now, I will tell ya, if anyone tries kicking my door in in the night, things will get interesting, because I have done nothing to expect cops visiting me. So I would assume it was a home invasion, at least initially. Folks could die. Or if folks come trying to take my guns or dog, badges notwithstanding, folks will likely die. Don’t expect it, but there it is. Never been a divorced parent with little kids the State wants to place with a druggie ex, either. Probably more things that might tip that scale. Those are just the immediate possibilities.


"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to someone shooting at you.


When you show up on a scene. and two people are shooting at one another, you just shoot them both? Or try to figure out what’s happening? A lot of folks here say shoot whichever one they deem less acceptable, which currently happens to be the not a cop. As stated, I suspect the guy iis a dirtbag, but we don’t KNOW that yet. And yet some want to burn the house and shoot the guy. Look, anyone who waits to hear the full story before calling for a resolution isn’t hating anyone. Folks like that have been known to keep a lynch mob off an innocent man at times. Might be a welcome fella if it was YOU the mob was after.


And a few people on here are Marxist trolls who think any dead cop is a good thing. Fortunately, none of them are not as smart as they think they are.


Well that ain’t me, by a long shot. But neither am I a hero-hungry sycophant willing to overlook almost anything as long as the proper uniform is worn. I am an American. A healthy dose of skepticism used to be standard equipment for us, and a mild distrust of government. Such is seeming to be long gone, guess I’m just too damn old. I despise a dirtbag more than most, get along well with most of the local cops. When the sheriff needs something done to his house, he calls me. Would help any of those guys in a heartbeat, as long as they are in the right. Doesn’t mean I will ignore it if they start up acting badly. No matter what, I will always reserve judgement until I know the facts of the case. That’s how we are supposed to think. Most of the posters in this thread are nobody I would want on a jury. Especially if I was the one on trial.
Originally Posted by MOGC
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


True. Just out of curiosity though, what are the acceptable scenarios that you can imagine where you would shoot four LEO's, then barricade yourself in your house?


Hadn’t really envisioned a day that bad, just somehow got used to the idea
that a man was innocent until proven guilty, and thought we might wanna know what started it before we set the house on fire and burn him alive. Like I said, probably a dirtbag, but this is still America, and lynch mobs are still not a good thing.

Now, I will tell ya, if anyone tries kicking my door in in the night, things will get interesting, because I have done nothing to expect cops visiting me. So I would assume it was a home invasion, at least initially. Folks could die. Or if folks come trying to take my guns or dog, badges notwithstanding, folks will likely die. Don’t expect it, but there it is. Never been a divorced parent with little kids the State wants to place with a druggie ex, either. Probably more things that might tip that scale. Those are just the immediate possibilities.


"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to someone shooting at you.


When you show up on a scene. and two people are shooting at one another, you just shoot them both? Or try to figure out what’s happening? A lot of folks here say shoot whichever one they deem less acceptable, which currently happens to be the not a cop. As stated, I suspect the guy iis a dirtbag, but we don’t KNOW that yet. And yet some want to burn the house and shoot the guy. Look, anyone who waits to hear the full story before calling for a resolution isn’t hating anyone. Folks like that have been known to keep a lynch mob off an innocent man at times. Might be a welcome fella if it was YOU the mob was after.


And a few people on here are Marxist trolls who think any dead cop is a good thing. Fortunately, none of them are not as smart as they think they are.


Or as tough as they pretend to be.


Been a lot of men laid low by folks less smart or tough than themselves. Better to be right than smart or tough. Living right and dying right, matter more than being tough or smart. And gauging the smarts or toughness of a person on the internet is problematic, at best. Good luck with it.
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
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Well that ain’t me, by a long shot. But neither am I a hero-hungry sycophant willing to overlook almost anything as long as the proper uniform is worn. I am an American. A healthy dose of skepticism used to be standard equipment for us, and a mild distrust of government. Such is seeming to be long gone, guess I’m just too damn old. I despise a dirtbag more than most, get along well with most of the local cops. When the sheriff needs something done to his house, he calls me. Would help any of those guys in a heartbeat, as long as they are in the right. Doesn’t mean I will ignore it if they start up acting badly. No matter what, I will always reserve judgement until I know the facts of the case. That’s how we are supposed to think. Most of the posters in this thread are nobody I would want on a jury. Especially if I was the one on trial.
Well stated. Why do we not see more Campfire folks like this, and fewer of the nitwits.
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


Innocent folks don't shoot at cops, or anyone for that matter. This shidt is getting old. Time for LEO's to start making a point.

You start shooting people, if it wasn't self defense and holing up in a structure doesn't help in self defense, you go down. No more touchy feely.

Depends on what it as about unless you trust your government
Lol... composition was always my strong point, although I always leaned toward the succinct. I can appreciate your dialogue.

If it was my scene, I would have smoked him by whatever means was necessary before the ticket writers and xerox police got there.
Wearing a uniform doesn't guarantee good guy status. In many cases, the opposite.

Me personally, I don't like any cop I've met. I've had them to dinner and tried to friend some, but for my money, no thanks.

All this means nothing of course.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Wearing a uniform doesn't guarantee good guy status. In many cases, the opposite.

Me personally, I don't like any cop I've met. I've had them to dinner and tried to friend some, but for my money, no thanks.

All this means nothing of course.

It means you are a psychopath
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Lol... composition was always my strong point, although I always leaned toward the succinct. I can appreciate your dialogue.

If it was my scene, I would have smoked him by whatever means was necessary before the ticket writers and xerox police got there.

Off course you would
Originally Posted by renegade50
They cant do many things to reduce that house with him in it.
Especially if it is in a neighbor setting.

They need to gas the fugg outta the place at the least.
Hopefully the POS has no hostage or hostages.
They might be waiting on assets to arrive???

This guy needs to never hear his rights and be covered up by a sheet in a ambulance ride ....



Thankfully this is outta your fugking league and your professional skills will never place you in a standoff like this. LOL
Deputys here killed one this week. kidnaped two 16 year old girls 3 countys over, let them go thank god two countys over. The scrote head then killed a 80 year old man and took his truck, got it stuck and caught a ride here. They got pulled over and scrote head jumps out shooting at the two deputys, 10 rounds, they shoot back game over and lots of money saved. Prayers for the Officers involved tonight.
Originally Posted by blanket
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Lol... composition was always my strong point, although I always leaned toward the succinct. I can appreciate your dialogue.

If it was my scene, I would have smoked him by whatever means was necessary before the ticket writers and xerox police got there.

Off course you would


Yep, the Lt thinks all us regular folk deserve to die, as long as the power of the badge is preserved. He's proven that time and time again. Fuqk you peasants.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by renegade50
Any updates on this???
Not seeing anything about it.


Hope they dont take this POS alive.....



Latest I’ve seen says the shooter was still barricaded as of 8:00pm.




A flamethrower would solve that problem.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Damn, Went to half my senior yr of high school just north of there in Littlefield, dated a girl from Levelland.


Imagine that! I bet you can’t remember her face.
This is a bad guy case - not overzealous LEOs. I promise y’all will see when the full facts come out.

Deceased SO (Sgt. Josh Bartlett) left behind a wife and three kids. Prayers for his family.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Wearing a uniform doesn't guarantee good guy status. In many cases, the opposite.

Me personally, I don't like any cop I've met. I've had them to dinner and tried to friend some, but for my money, no thanks.

All this means nothing of course.

You've got a point here. Don't feel alone.
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by renegade50
Any updates on this???
Not seeing anything about it.


Hope they dont take this POS alive.....



Latest I’ve seen says the shooter was still barricaded as of 8:00pm.




A flamethrower would solve that problem.

...or a bull dozer. Ya sure you want to go down that road?
Its over !
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-sw...re-multiple-police-officers-were-injured
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/josh-b...led-4-standoff-gunman-omar-soto-chavira/
Originally Posted by crittrgittr
Level that fuggin house


Open the front door with an M 79 Grenade launcher and the window the shots are coming from with one also.
Two words:

GO

IN
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Wearing a uniform doesn't guarantee good guy status. In many cases, the opposite.

Me personally, I don't like any cop I've met. I've had them to dinner and tried to friend some, but for my money, no thanks.

All this means nothing of course.


I detect a pattern.

LOL
Originally Posted by DMc
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Wearing a uniform doesn't guarantee good guy status. In many cases, the opposite.

Me personally, I don't like any cop I've met. I've had them to dinner and tried to friend some, but for my money, no thanks.

All this means nothing of course.

You've got a point here. Don't feel alone.


You are both pieces of $hit, but nobody had to tell you, you already knew that.
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


Innocent folks don't shoot at cops, or anyone for that matter. This shidt is getting old. Time for LEO's to start making a point.

You start shooting people, if it wasn't self defense and holing up in a structure doesn't help in self defense, you go down. No more touchy feely.



Have you ever read of any innocent people killed by cops?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/28/john-hurley-hero-police-shooting/
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Wearing a uniform doesn't guarantee good guy status. In many cases, the opposite.

Me personally, I don't like any cop I've met. I've had them to dinner and tried to friend some, but for my money, no thanks.

All this means nothing of course.


Maybe it's you and not the cops. Just as in any profession, there are good and bad, but I've met more good cops than bad.

G23
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


wtf is this? someone in a House killing Cops...yeah let's wait and see if they have a good reason. idiot.
Originally Posted by strikeu
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


wtf is this? someone in a House killing Cops...yeah let's wait and see if they have a good reason. idiot.


I agree with your assessment of him.

The suspect was just released on bail on Family Violence charges 4 days before he started shooting at cops, and yesterday engaged a highway patrolman, trying to entice him into confrontation before the standoff.

Shot one cop dead, and wounded 4 others.

I'm sure the guy had a very valid reason for doing so.... whistle

I'd just like to know if the guy was a wetback with cartel ties.

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
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I’m gonna guess............... a wetback.
POS in Custody.

https://www.kbtx.com/2021/07/16/wat...rs-injured-standoff-continues-levelland/
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Been a lot of men laid low by folks less smart or tough than themselves. Better to be right than smart or tough. Living right and dying right, matter more than being tough or smart. And gauging the smarts or toughness of a person on the internet is problematic, at best. Good luck with it.

This principle is wise and worthy. Smart and tough do come onto serious play in certain situations, however their presence cannot be fathomed here or through conversation. True demonstration of those qualities becomes crystalline in crucial situations and moments. Attempt to live beautifully and have those in the top drawer of your tool box.
Originally Posted by strikeu
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
Might wanna be asking why the dude barricaded himself before we get all weepy about one side or the other. Probably a dirtbag and deserving of a dirt nap, but it isn’t always, and times being what they are, we ought to be reserving judgement until we know what is actually happening. Nothing posted here gives enough detail to make that determination.


wtf is this? someone in a House killing Cops...yeah let's wait and see if they have a good reason. idiot.



Are you seriously that dumb that you can't comprehend a few sentences?
Just drag his sorry ass out back, plant a bullet in his brain and pitch his ass over the fence. Case closed.
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Shark example here
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