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Posted By: Judman Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/27/21
Pards cuttin buddy yesterday, stihl brand new stihl 661 fuel injected, wide open, had sewn in chaps, double kneed britches…..
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Good God!


Can't imagine it's not bleeding more.
But that's a good thing,
Some what lucky could have been way worse.
But 661 is not fuel injected. Only the 500i is ...
M- tonic is electronically controlled carburetor.
Posted By: MD521 Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/27/21
Whoa
Egads!
Ouch! Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Originally Posted by ldholton
Some what lucky could have been way worse.
But 661 is not fuel injected. Only the 500i is ...
M- tonic is electronically controlled carburetor.


Gotcha! 👍

https://m.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/professional-saws/ms661cm/
Posted By: hanco Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/27/21
Nasty, looks painful
Little super glue and he’s GTG.
Fuucker screamed on the radio, pard walked over to his strip, dude was in some pain, thank god it was downhill to the crewbus…
Begging mercy for their sins
Larry laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!
Posted By: 673 Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/27/21
I did that once.
I only wear pants that go full circle around my leg from the knee down. Chaps just spin unless they have the same coverage.



Looks painful. Thank God it didn't hit an artery or major vein.
Scheidt.

That must not feel good.

Glad he had some protection on, sounds like they're pros and likely required for the job.


Nicked a pair of chaps, tiny little grain of rice size nick. Made me wonder, when did I do that? as I found it when I was done for the day. I'm a rookie with them things, so I consider myself blessed and lucky.
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Begging mercy for their sins
Larry laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!



Liar larry was a bushelor, not a cutter… big difference
Wow that would suck! Bow season starts in a month!
They will mess your knee up. Don't ask me how I know.
I cut myself once. Right across the left knee. I always wore steel toed boots. I won't touch a saw unless I'm wearing chaps. I was lucky
Seems like it usually the left knee. BTDT. It sucks.
A few years back at Willow Lake, I met a young man with a large bandage on his left foot! He said he was bucking a big fir about 6ft diameter at a landing. The fir rolled and put the chain saw, at max throttle across his foot! It cut his foot across behind his toes half way to the ankle! All toes were gone, they couldn't save any parts below the cut! He said it went through his caulks and into the ground in less than a second! It looked like he was taking it in stride. But it sure made me pucker just listening to him!
Originally Posted by 673
I did that once.
I only wear pants that go full circle around my leg from the knee down. Chaps just spin unless they have the same coverage.

673:
Good afternoon to you my friend, I hope all is going not too, too badly for you up there - all things considered.

Proving that at times old dogs can be taught new tricks - based pretty much entirely on your recommendation and my daughter's urging - I bought myself some 4100 rated Logger King pants by Big K.

I do not start a chainsaw without them on any more.

Yah, they're freaking hot to wear, but yah, I think they'll save my bacon if I slip with a running 372 in my old age.

Thanks again sir - I mean it.

Dwayne
Stihl chainsaw chaps for me.
Lucky....
Damn Jud, thats some [bleep] right there. Thought it was you at first.
Been there, done that. The funny part is that when I looked at my jeans it didn’t look too bad. The chaps seem like a very good idea after the fact. Dave
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Begging mercy for their sins
Larry laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!



Liar larry was a bushelor, not a cutter… big difference



So he didn't use a chainsaw?
I got my shin a few years ago.
Husqvarna's don't do that.
Speedy recovery

one of those moments you just wish you could have back
Hank
Posted By: DMc Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
Dayum, stitches needed?
Posted By: ejo Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
Thanks for the warning. I had my 661 out yesterday and seeing that picture is a good reminder to be extra careful.
Originally Posted by bigwoods
Damn Jud, thats some [bleep] right there. Thought it was you at first.

Originally Posted by bigwoods
Damn Jud, thats some [bleep] right there. Thought it was you at first.


Oh I’m waaaay dumber than that, my loggin days are long gone, but I’ve been known to cut firewood and cut trees in shorts and flip flops.. I know better too!! 😂😂
Yikes
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Stihl chainsaw chaps for me.





A pair of them saved my boys leg when he was 16 years old. an old McCullough running full throttle across his upper thigh. Chaps didn't survive but the boys leg did.
It’ll get me one day

I refuse to dress like a beekeeper while running a saw
SOAB that hurts from here
Posted By: Lonny Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
Thanks for the safety visual Jud. Hope the guy heals up okay.

Just missed screwing myself a few years back. Got lucky. No chaps, had them in the pickup too, but it was a good reminder to wear them every time.

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Ya they’ll getcha!! Many close calls back in the day… some corked danners saved my shiit, chaps saved me a couple times
I'll stick with my little 550xp and safety chain.

Cut my fuuckin' dick off with a big ripper!
Rub some dirt on it and walk it off.
My brother and I own 11 Stihl chainsaws.
From a top handle to a ms660
Been cutting for about four decades.
Cut our pants 3-4 times, but no blood as best I can remember
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Husqvarna's don't do that.

You're right - the saw has to be running to do that kinda damage.
Posted By: rlott Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
A little super glue and that will buff right out.
My dad has cut a pair of boots, and once
his jeans and his boxers. Not a scratch on his leg. Thats close!



Never cut by a running saw myself,
But was thinking about it running the trim saw in shorts and
Croc sandals. Manned up and put in boots to fire the 372 and take
a couple trees down.


Did manage to have a chip fly down my throat as I was inhaling.
That's enough excitement!
I’d have bleed too death right there!
I thought that was a vagina when I first looked

And, the 661 is NOT fuel injected. Only the 500i is such
A pair of chaps is a lot less money than an emergency room visit
Not been bitten after 40 years with saws. Knock on wood. Splitting and stacking next winter's supply starting today. Locked out of the woods here, but I'm already done with the saws for this year.
Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I thought that was a vagina when I first looked

And, the 661 is NOT fuel injected. Only the 500i is such


Excuse me, I’ll shoot him a text!!! Haha
Originally Posted by keith_dunlap
My brother and I own 11 Stihl chainsaws.
From a top handle to a ms660
Been cutting for about four decades.
Cut our pants 3-4 times, but no blood as best I can remember


Count your blessings!! Probably a little different ground , wood and country out here
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Begging mercy for their sins
Larry laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!



Liar larry was a bushelor, not a cutter… big difference

Only in how they are paid. Busheling is the way to go if your handy with a saw.
Originally Posted by BWalker
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Begging mercy for their sins
Larry laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!



Liar larry was a bushelor, not a cutter… big difference

Only in how they are paid. Busheling is the way to go if your handy with a saw.


That’s subjective.. wanna sit on a stump for hours, your gtg. 👍
Ouch!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by keith_dunlap
My brother and I own 11 Stihl chainsaws.
From a top handle to a ms660
Been cutting for about four decades.
Cut our pants 3-4 times, but no blood as best I can remember


Count your blessings!! Probably a little different ground , wood and country out here

We do
And are more careful, now that we’re older
Originally Posted by 1minute
Not been bitten after 40 years with saws. Knock on wood. Splitting and stacking next winter's supply starting today. Locked out of the woods here, but I'm already done with the saws for this year.

Glad you got your wood in 1minute.

Friend here has deer tag on your side of the border. Archery, starts pretty soon, mid August I think? Says the place he hunts is in the closed forest.
I like to got it good spring of 2020. Cutting a bunch of brush out of the way to get to get to a blown down tree, got too hot and sweaty and careless, cut into a Chinese privet hedge trunk that was about four inches diameter. Got about two thirds of the way through the thing, it twisted and pinched, the saw kicked back right into my left knee. Didn't cut deep enough to go get sewn up but bled a bunch for a few minutes. Cut was ground full of sawdust, bar oil, cotton fabric, blood and chewed hide. Almost made it to the kneecap. Left a three inch long scar diagonally across my knee as a reminder to slow down and be careful. An eighth of inch deeper and it would have been bone time and I can't imagine how much pain that would have been. And how long to heal up.
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by BWalker
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Begging mercy for their sins
Larry laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!



Liar larry was a bushelor, not a cutter… big difference

Only in how they are paid. Busheling is the way to go if your handy with a saw.


That’s subjective.. wanna sit on a stump for hours, your gtg. 👍

I'm not sure what your talking about? A bushler's pay is based on how much wood they put on the ground. A cutter is paid hourly. It's typically more lucrative to be paid by the board feet depending on the ground your in. Stick was logging old growth based on his YouTube videos and I bet making good money while doing so.
When I logged we call busheling piece cutting. Mostly second and third growth hardwood trees. Sometimes you did ok, sometimes not.
We handled a incident (reported missing person) with a guy that was killed in an wood cutting accident with an Stihl 028. It kicked back and hit him in the forehead killing him. not a big saw but, it did the Job! DRT. I have heard that next to firearms, chainsaws have the second highest product liability of anything that can be purchased by consumers.
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Liar larry was a bushelor, not a cutter… big difference


Never heard the term bushelor before,sounds like a forest service term not logging..Having looked it up a bushelor is the same as a logcutter/faller/feller/sawyer..One who falls/limbs and cuts the tree into logs for money aka by the board foot/log/tree length or even by the hour on a right of way job..

But that's in Idaho..lol


Jayco
Originally Posted by cs2blue
We handled a incident (reported missing person) with a guy that was killed in an wood cutting accident with an Stihl 028. It kicked back and hit him in the forehead killing him. not a big saw but, it did the Job! DRT. I have heard that next to firearms, chainsaws have the second highest product liability of anything that can be purchased by consumers.





Not an absolute, but for me,
small saws scare me.

Was running Mac 700's and 800's at 12, moved into Pro Huskys,
And thats been almost all my experience. Anytime I run a small saw,
usually with pro chain, I find them awful "kicky".

A big saw definitely will kick, but a longer bar usually has to go farther,
there is more weight in your favor,
And the handles give you better control.

As someone else said, it's usually from the knee up to the upper thigh.
With more experienced guys and big saws.
Sometimes it's kick, or a sprung branch,
other times it's the workingmans worst enemy.
Complacency!

Ever hear of a carpenter cutting his thigh with a circular saw.
Quick cut something, hold it on the leg......OH, FUDGE!!!
Only he didn't say fudge!


Not judging this guy or anyone that gets cut.
Complacency is a killer though.
One that worries me, personally.

Often times in dangerous work,
As knowledge and experience accumulate, caution decreases.


I worked at a huge trucking company known for training new drivers.
With over14k trucks running truckload freight, they could accumulate some interesting data.

New/inexperienced drivers had the majority of accidents.
Broken mirrors, trailer doors ripped off. Clipping another truck in a truck stop.
Small damage, few injuries.

Drivers with 3+ years under their belt had way fewer incidents.
But were the vast majority in fatal accidents.
That’s gross.
the older i get, the more cautious i am with saws. i've been nipped but never like that.
Imagine that without the chaps....

Had a kid from Indiana, claimed to work for the FS there on my crew in Alaska. He was clearing right of way for us. I heard the saw jam hard and shut off. I walked over and he was sitting there white as a ghost, red all over.

He asked me how bad it was. He has done this same move, also wearing chaps.

I explained that it was awful and that those chaps he just destroyed were expensive. He wanted to know about his leg before he passed out.....it never touched him. The red was all the Kevlar it spit out.

He was much luckier.
"Bushelor" "Busheling" I have used chain saws extensively for 40 years. Never heard either of these terms. Is this Yankee talk?
Posted By: PJ65 Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
Bushelor- getting paid by the piece or by the thousand, as in board feet. Term used in North West, rocky mountains.
Originally Posted by PJ65
Bushelor- getting paid by the piece or by the thousand, as in board feet. Term used in North West, rocky mountains.


That's a new one to me and like I said,it sounds more like forest service or forestry talk,not logging..50 years in the woods and I never heard of it.


Jayco👍
Posted By: PJ65 Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
Worked with some boys from Western Wa and OR in the early 90s. Heard the term thrown around by them. Definitely not Forest Service, as they have no idea what production means.
Originally Posted by logcutter
Originally Posted by PJ65
Bushelor- getting paid by the piece or by the thousand, as in board feet. Term used in North West, rocky mountains.


That's a new one to me and like I said,it sounds more like forest service or forestry talk,not logging..50 years in the woods and I never heard of it.


Jayco👍


Me either.
Have known guys to be paid by the load.
We called it "Payed by the load".
But around here,
we aren't "Real cool and chitt".
Posted By: TRnCO Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
I have a scare on my knee that his is going to match pretty close to that in the pic. that the OP posted. Amazingly it didn't hurt much when I did it.
Posted By: 673 Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
A chainsaw is the most dangerous tool I am aware of, and if you are falling timber then sooner or later something is going to happen.
We have a saying....the unlucky get killed and the lucky get good.....I have had trees land beside me.... shocked...had barber chairs......had tops land beside me......had stupid skidderman push snags over in my direction...been hit in the face with debris requiring stiches a couple times...all that and you are still holding and controlling the most dangerous tool.
I sure do miss production falling.
Originally Posted by 673
A chainsaw is the most dangerous tool I am aware of, and if you are falling timber then sooner or later something is going to happen.
We have a saying....the unlucky get killed and the lucky get good.....I have had trees land beside me.... shocked...had barber chairs......had tops land beside me......had stupid skidderman push snags over in my direction...been hit in the face with debris requiring stiches a couple times...all that and you are still holding and controlling the most dangerous tool.
I sure do miss production falling.


My first year cutting I got hit by a top that was rotten enough to bust off when the tree went over. It was on a steep loose and rocky hillside and I slipped moving away. Ended up face planted into the ground. That one still causes problems 30 years later. I also got a pretty good nick on my left wrist when my bar tip touched my wedge and kicked back out of the back cut. That one was 25 stitches or so.

Just in the last few years 4 guys I know and/or worked with in the woods 3 have been seriously injured wiith one of them dead. 1 of the 3 ended up losing a leg at mid thigh.

The one guy who was killed probably had 30+ years of timber falling under his belt and was widely regarded as a very good timber faller. A widowmaker got him.

I was just talking to my brother a few days ago about logging and we both agreed we missed it for some reason.
It will feel better when it stops hurting.

Back in the late 70's I worked for one of the big commercial tree companies, the one with the silent H at the end of their name. Anyway they needed workers bad when the Twin Cities got hammered with the Dutch Elm moths. The fat guys got to use a bucket truck, the skinny guys had to climb, and the rest made up the grounds crew. For 5 weeks it didn't pay to learn anyone's name as people were getting butchered left and right. It was almost a game predicting which moron was going to get their digits shortened or removed. I often thought it was odd nobody died.

The op's bite looks bad, but in the scheme of things it will probably go down as a good reminder.


WS
Originally Posted by logcutter
Originally Posted by PJ65
Bushelor- getting paid by the piece or by the thousand, as in board feet. Term used in North West, rocky mountains.


That's a new one to me and like I said,it sounds more like forest service or forestry talk,not logging..50 years in the woods and I never heard of it.


Jayco👍

Getting paid by the thousand was common in Northern California where I worked. I worked one season chasing and skidding for a company out of Klamath Falls and they paid the cutters by the stump inch. Measured across the hinge if I remember right.
Logging is the second most dangerous occupation in America, and I know why.
I was cutting down a pine tree in North Carolina so my neighbor could get a view of the river. 95 foot white pine, 18 inch diameter. It was growing on a steep hill, probably 45 degree slope. The tree was leaning slightly uphill and I dropped it uphill. Hell I am from the flatlands of Georgia I didn't know any better. The tree dropped right where I wanted, and the butt was aimed straight downhill. I turned to mess with something on the saw, and suddenly the tree began to slide downhill like a sled. Got on top of me and crunched down right on top of my right knee. The trunk landed right on my knee and I was pinned.

Fire dept rescue squad had to come up and cut that tree off of me, carried me off the mountain in a Stokes basket.
Broke the big thigh bone, the femur, right in the knee. Did 18 months on crutches and wound up with total knee replacement. Damn knee still hurts, night and day.
Originally Posted by BWalker
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by BWalker
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Begging mercy for their sins
Larry laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!



Liar larry was a bushelor, not a cutter… big difference

Only in how they are paid. Busheling is the way to go if your handy with a saw.


That’s subjective.. wanna sit on a stump for hours, your gtg. 👍

I'm not sure what your talking about? A bushler's pay is based on how much wood they put on the ground. A cutter is paid hourly. It's typically more lucrative to be paid by the board feet depending on the ground your in. Stick was logging old growth based on his YouTube videos and I bet making good money while doing so.
When I logged we call busheling piece cutting. Mostly second and third growth hardwood trees. Sometimes you did ok, sometimes not.


Of course you don’t know what I’m talking about. That’s why the dont pay hourly in old growth. Do you know how long it takes to dump one of those big bastards? Wal mart bushelors laziest of the bunch. Judging by Larry’s lifestyle , busheling wasn’t too fruitful
Posted By: PJ65 Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
I was usually paid by the piece, that being the number of 33 foot logs in a tree. I never worked the coastal stuff and have the utmost respect for those who do. Big trees, steep and wet. Whole different ballgame. I always wore chaps, helmet and eye protection. Need to stay whole and healthy for the next day.
Posted By: 673 Re: Watch your chainsaw boys…. - 07/28/21
Also.....I have been pounded on the back and driven face first a couple times into the snow by a chunk of ice/snow that accumulates up near the top of evergreens usually later in winter.
A local Faller near me recently had his neck broken by a chunk of ice/snow and his 50+ year career ended. I can think of 4-5 guys with broken necks from falling.

I have never met a faller that wasn't a believer to full blown Christian LOL
I came very close to doing that, so I repaired the work pants, and wear them to remind me. Man, That photo will stick with me , too! I guess the only good thing is it looks like it can be fixed.
Chaps are cheap compared to the alternative. Saws want blood for some reason. So do some trees. And it's not just chainsaws. I've got scratches, and only scratches, but I remember every one like it was yesterday, and so far, not made the same mistake twice.
Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I thought that was a vagina when I first looked

And, the 661 is NOT fuel injected. Only the 500i is such

I just got a 500i not long ago. It has the smoke. Haven't ran it enough yet though to be broken in. Once it cools down some I have a lot of cutting to do. Brush in Pa. is dangerous working in the woods.
Originally Posted by dodgefan
Originally Posted by 673
A chainsaw is the most dangerous tool I am aware of, and if you are falling timber then sooner or later something is going to happen.
We have a saying....the unlucky get killed and the lucky get good.....I have had trees land beside me.... shocked...had barber chairs......had tops land beside me......had stupid skidderman push snags over in my direction...been hit in the face with debris requiring stiches a couple times...all that and you are still holding and controlling the most dangerous tool.
I sure do miss production falling.


My first year cutting I got hit by a top that was rotten enough to bust off when the tree went over. It was on a steep loose and rocky hillside and I slipped moving away. Ended up face planted into the ground. That one still causes problems 30 years later. I also got a pretty good nick on my left wrist when my bar tip touched my wedge and kicked back out of the back cut. That one was 25 stitches or so.

Just in the last few years 4 guys I know and/or worked with in the woods 3 have been seriously injured wiith one of them dead. 1 of the 3 ended up losing a leg at mid thigh.

The one guy who was killed probably had 30+ years of timber falling under his belt and was widely regarded as a very good timber faller. A widowmaker got him.

I was just talking to my brother a few days ago about logging and we both agreed we missed it for some reason.


My great uncle got killed falling a tree that was rotten in the middle. He was only 26, newly married, and it led to bad blood in the family that lasted many years. My grandfather too, was lucky to survive an incident many years later which probably would have killed him if he wasn't wearing a hard hat - the hard hat was broken by the impact.

Another bloke I know was up a tree when he fell, with his chainsaw running and him trying to bat the bloody thing away as they came down. He was lucky only to get some bad lacerations on his arm and a few scrapes and bruises. He reckoned that fronting up at emergency and telling them he's just gone hand to hand with a bear - and looking like it - got him straight in.

It is a dangerous game
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by BWalker
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by BWalker
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Begging mercy for their sins
Larry laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah!



Liar larry was a bushelor, not a cutter… big difference

Only in how they are paid. Busheling is the way to go if your handy with a saw.


That’s subjective.. wanna sit on a stump for hours, your gtg. 👍

I'm not sure what your talking about? A bushler's pay is based on how much wood they put on the ground. A cutter is paid hourly. It's typically more lucrative to be paid by the board feet depending on the ground your in. Stick was logging old growth based on his YouTube videos and I bet making good money while doing so.
When I logged we call busheling piece cutting. Mostly second and third growth hardwood trees. Sometimes you did ok, sometimes not.


Of course you don’t know what I’m talking about. That’s why the dont pay hourly in old growth. Do you know how long it takes to dump one of those big bastards? Wal mart bushelors laziest of the bunch. Judging by Larry’s lifestyle , busheling wasn’t too fruitful

Of course I am aware of the length of time it takes to put a old growth tree down.
That doesn't change the fact that you are suggesting the real loggers aren't busheling, which frankly isn't true.
My grandfathers brother was killed felling a tree in 1940, about 250 yards from where I'm sitting. Fell on him and crushed him.
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