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https://beckernews.com/department-of-justice-declares-that-all-vaccines-mandates-are-legal-40544/

The Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel has given the U.S. federal government and state governments, as well as private corporations, the green light to mandate COVID vaccines at will.

“As access to the COVID-19 vaccines has become widespread, numerous educational institutions, employers, and other entities across the United States have announced that they will require individuals to be vaccinated against COVID-19 as a condition of employment, enrollment, participation, or some other benefit, service, relationship, or access,” the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel wrote in an opinion. “For instance, certain schools will require vaccination in order for students to attend class in person, and certain employers will require vaccination as a condition of employment.”

No bueno.
shocker
This is good news.
The more forceful they get pushing the vac, the more determined I get that there’s no way I’m taking it.

Unless they pay me $5,000,000. Then, hell yeah.
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.

It actually might piss of some federal judges.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.


^^^This^^^
So does this no longer mean mean it's my body and my right to choose? Asking for a female friend.
F them. ALL of them.
They have zero authority. They're just throwing schit at the wall and getting the Karens to do the dirty work.
Department of Justice.

Yeah that’s justice ain’t it?

Need to get it to the scotus pronto and see how it floats there.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.

It actually might piss of some federal judges.


That's what I am thinking. Not surprised they decided that way but I don't think they have the authority to make that decision.
They know that most protest will come from Republicans. Just part of the overall plan to paint the entire Right as enemies of the state and a threat to everyone.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.



Just a DOJ "opinion"......................not adjudicated yet.

But I'm betting that in the end, courts will allow the mandates, but I hope I'm wrong.

MM
A POX on all their houses! Especially that Fauci SOB! Follow the money!
The refusal of Americans to play "mask up" round two will be epic. Biden is heading for the 25th Amendment - and Kamala can't wait!
I would expect Hippa would be a loophole that you antivaxers may use if you see fit to do so.
Not really a Hippa issue.

MM
Originally Posted by Stickfight
This is good news.


Really??? Why???
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Department of Justice.

Yeah that’s justice ain’t it?

Need to get it to the scotus pronto and see how it floats there.


That’s a gamble. 50/50 it’s not in our favor…
Originally Posted by erikj
https://beckernews.com/department-of-justice-declares-that-all-vaccines-mandates-are-legal-40544/

The Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel has given the U.S. federal government and state governments, as well as private corporations, the green light to mandate COVID vaccines at will.

“As access to the COVID-19 vaccines has become widespread, numerous educational institutions, employers, and other entities across the United States have announced that they will require individuals to be vaccinated against COVID-19 as a condition of employment, enrollment, participation, or some other benefit, service, relationship, or access,” the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel wrote in an opinion. “For instance, certain schools will require vaccination in order for students to attend class in person, and certain employers will require vaccination as a condition of employment.”

No bueno.

If this isn't challenged by the legislative branch.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.


Biden has many fantasies.



This can be challenged by the legislative branch.
I wonder how many have not accepted bribes to mind their own business and shut up?
We should see shortly.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Department of Justice.

Yeah that’s justice ain’t it?

Need to get it to the scotus pronto and see how it floats there.


That’s a gamble. 50/50 it’s not in our favor…


I agree, Jack, that it could easily go either way or the scotus might well take the chickescchitt route, refuse to hear the case and it’ll stand as written.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Department of Justice.

Yeah that’s justice ain’t it?

Need to get it to the scotus pronto and see how it floats there.



You mean like the SC decision on Obama Care????
Every employment attorney I've talked to has said the exact same thing.
The Legislative Branch makes law.

The Executive Branch (which includes DOJ) enforces law.

The Judicial Branch (which does not include DOJ) interprets law.
Originally Posted by doctor_Encore
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Department of Justice.

Yeah that’s justice ain’t it?

Need to get it to the scotus pronto and see how it floats there.



You mean like the SC decision on Obama Care????


Could well happen that way, doc.
But either way, the courts have been bypassed unless challenged..
Man is it going to be peaceful in a few years
Well, the DoJ and the CDC can make all the mandates they want to...Florida, South Dakota and Texas all told them to go to he11 and get bent, as the CDC mandates aren't backed by real science.
Originally Posted by rlott
The Legislative Branch makes law.

The Executive Branch (which includes DOJ) enforces law.

The Judicial Branch (which does not include DOJ) interprets law.


So what legislative body made Roe v. Wade into law?
war is imminent.... humans vs zombies
Originally Posted by HawkI
Originally Posted by rlott
The Legislative Branch makes law.

The Executive Branch (which includes DOJ) enforces law.

The Judicial Branch (which does not include DOJ) interprets law.


So what legislative body made Roe v. Wade into law?


Roe v. Wade was not "made" into law, it was "interpreted" into law by the court.

Can you see the problem here?
Standing for Liberty has consequences. People are going to have to be willing to give up jobs, money, comfort, expensive hunting trips, etc. Most are utterly unwilling to do that.
That is not right by any standards.

What happens if one has already had the plague and lived?

Antibodies don't mean squat i guess any more.
.gov declared its own actions to be legal?
Shocking.

Might hold more water if the DOJ was thought to be legitimate, let alone the current clown world federal .gov..
Originally Posted by rlott
Originally Posted by HawkI
Originally Posted by rlott
The Legislative Branch makes law.

The Executive Branch (which includes DOJ) enforces law.

The Judicial Branch (which does not include DOJ) interprets law.


So what legislative body made Roe v. Wade into law?


Roe v. Wade was not "made" into law, it was "interpreted" into law by the court.

Can you see the problem here?



I'm fully aware of the problem and even more aware how they really don't give a phouc, along with a good portion of the citizenry.

Hell, California, New Hampshire and my own state Courts reversed referendums on gay marriage (and call it law).

Abortion, gay marriage and eventually pedophilia will become "law", not through the legislative process, as written in the Constitution.
A "mandate" isn't law; never has been. A king, a bureaucracy, etc., "mandates"...if just for starters on how badly the real actors of treason and sedition of the republic have taken us LEFT....
The DOJ is essentially setting the stage for OSHA.
Get the vaccine card. Simple.
DE BLASIO: “We’ve got to shake people at this point and say ‘c’mon now.’ We tried voluntary. We could not have been more kind and compassionate as a country…free testing, incentives, friendly warm embrace — the voluntary phase is over.”
Fück Deblasio. This is America.
looked up states that allow religious or personal exemptions from bypassing state mandates for child vaccination in school

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/school-immunization-exemption-state-laws.aspx
Originally Posted by TXLoader
Well, the DoJ and the CDC can make all the mandates they want to...Florida, South Dakota and Texas all told them to go to he11 and get bent, as the CDC mandates aren't backed by real science.



regarding school vaccines

States typically follow recommended childhood vaccine schedules from the CDC in setting their mandates, allowing some exemptions. In recent years, state lawmakers around the country have faced confrontational protesters when they’ve attempted to narrow or eliminate broad, philosophical vaccine exemptions that have led to large numbers of opt outs.


State-issued school vaccine mandates have been a key strategy that has helped build collective immunity, and agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have credited them with practically eradicating several illnesses, like measles and polio.

School attendance is one of the broadest, most effective conditions officials can tie to vaccines, they say, so such mandates serve to set norms for the broader population, in addition to protecting children from diseases that may spread in school buildings.

Cuomo weighs in FWIW...

“You cannot mandate any of these vaccines yet, because they are all emergency-use authorization,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, said Tuesday. “A state cannot mandate a vaccine that is authorized by emergency use. It has to receive a full federal approval first.”

The emergency-use authorization from the FDA requires broad, rigorous studies of the safety and effectiveness of vaccine candidates. In Pfizer’s case, data was pulled from 2,260 12- to 15-year-olds who participated in a clinical trial. The company expects to request emergency authorization for children as young as 2 in September. Pfizer has started the process to receive full approval for use of its vaccine in patients 16 and older, and it expects to follow later with younger age groups.
Finally, a STAT piece regarding employer mandates.......


Among those who believe that EUA vaccines cannot be mandated, the best two arguments are a legal argument and a policy one. The legal argument is that the law setting out the requirements for emergency use authorization contains language requiring the Secretary of Health and Human Services to ensure that people know they can refuse or accept the vaccine. The same language requires the informational materials accompanying EUA vaccines to tell people that “It is your choice to receive” the relevant vaccine.

The policy argument against mandates is that the standards for emergency use authorization are lower than the standards for full approval, that the vaccines are “experimental” and not enough is known about them, and it is therefore unfair to mandate them. Two lawsuits have already been filed making both the legal and policy arguments, one by a corrections officer in New Mexico, and one by employees of the Los Angeles United School District.

There are good reasons to reject both of these arguments, though. On the legal side, the EUA statute says nothing directed at employers or universities. Instead, it addresses the actions of federal officials, such as the HHS secretary and the president — not private actors. Private employees are generally “at will,” meaning they can be terminated for any reason that is not explicitly illegal. Those arguing that the EUA statute prohibits mandates by at-will employers are claiming that this federal law is changing existing state employment law on the topic by mere implication. They are reading in a broad prohibition covering all employers and universities in the U.S. that is not, in fact, in the statute. Such broad preemption would require, at a minimum, clearer language.
Time for the women to burn their masks along with their bras on college campuses. I'll bring the beer.
Originally Posted by local_dirt
F them. ALL of them.



The harder they push, the deeper I will dig in.

Given the track history of the federales doing more harm than good in recent years, when they push this hard, it sets off the warning bells PDQ. eek
Originally Posted by antlers
shocker

Exactly. No surprise. I would have been shocked if they didn't. It's the Biden regime.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.

This is why it will need to wend its way through the court system. Bet it gets fast tracked to SCOTUS . The Executive branch has no such legal authority nor should it be recognized . I saw this one coming a while back. That scum Fauci says it's a new virus in effect because it has mutated. By that logic the virus will keep mutating and we'll be in masks forever. Enough is enough.
So once again we have an example of the federal government telling us what the federal government's powers are which is ludicrous. The central government is the creature of the States, not their master.
Originally Posted by bluefish
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.

This is why it will need to wend its way through the court system. Bet it gets fast tracked to SCOTUS . The Executive branch has no such legal authority nor should it be recognized . I saw this one coming a while back. That scum Fauci says it's a new virus in effect because it has mutated. By that logic the virus will keep mutating and we'll be in masks forever. Enough is enough.



The DOJ proclaiming it "Legal" is just them saying they are willing to take the issue through the court system.

By the time it goes through the court system, win, lose or draw, it will have already affected everyone...
This is all building up to exploit control and to make mail in ballots with 0 QC the unquestioned standard for the 2022 mid term elections.

That is the purpose of the " D" varient hype.
The announcement of the " L " variant in south America for their next round.

Chunk by chunk
Bit by bit
The Liberal Socialist Democrats and their media ministry of propaganda are conditioning sheeple for compliance and the mail in ballot game being the most safe way to vote health wise.

Apparently the voluntary innoculation numbers aren't nearly what is they are claiming.

Was told that the VA recently gave employees notice that all will be expected to get covid vaccine shots within the next few weeks. Should be interesting to see if their union challenges it.
They will get away with what we let them get away with.
Originally Posted by erikj
https://beckernews.com/department-of-justice-declares-that-all-vaccines-mandates-are-legal-40544/

The Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel has given the U.S. federal government and state governments, as well as private corporations, the green light to mandate COVID vaccines at will.

“As access to the COVID-19 vaccines has become widespread, numerous educational institutions, employers, and other entities across the United States have announced that they will require individuals to be vaccinated against COVID-19 as a condition of employment, enrollment, participation, or some other benefit, service, relationship, or access,” the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel wrote in an opinion. “For instance, certain schools will require vaccination in order for students to attend class in person, and certain employers will require vaccination as a condition of employment.”

No bueno.
All part of the plan to finish installing Maoist socialism on the sheeple...
Chains and slavery!

To quote the Grand Bard of Scotland!
Originally Posted by KFWA
looked up states that allow religious or personal exemptions from bypassing state mandates for child vaccination in school

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/school-immunization-exemption-state-laws.aspx

That's interesting. Thanks.


We are always just a few votes away from change. Covid has given us a nation of germaphobes so you may see this start to change.
Except the SCOTUS is bought and paid for or at least black mailed.....Nobody is looking out for us lowlife Subjects.
Originally Posted by cvmw
Except the SCOTUS is bought and paid for or at least black mailed.....Nobody is looking out for us lowlife Subjects.



Someone has forgotten exactly who the boss is.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by cvmw
Except the SCOTUS is bought and paid for or at least black mailed.....Nobody is looking out for us lowlife Subjects.



Someone has forgotten exactly who the boss is.

Haven't forgotten, When do we roll?
Brought to you by the guy O’bama wanted on SCOTUS. Another lackey following directions.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Brought to you by the guy O’bama wanted on SCOTUS. Another lackey following directions.



Yeah, every time I hear about the crap Garland pulls, I think about his SC nomination.

They may not have gotten HIM in, but they did succeed with some others... mad
Originally Posted by bobinpa
Originally Posted by Stickfight
This is good news.


Really??? Why???


Because the only way this will get better is if it gets worse first.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Department of Justice.

Yeah that’s justice ain’t it?

Need to get it to the scotus pronto and see how it floats there.


That’s a gamble. 50/50 it’s not in our favor…


I agree, Jack, that it could easily go either way or the scotus might well take the chickescchitt route, refuse to hear the case and it’ll stand as written.






Their track record of late has been abysmal.

It would appear that justice is now encased as what you take for yourself.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by ironbender
Brought to you by the guy O’bama wanted on SCOTUS. Another lackey following directions.



Yeah, every time I hear about the crap Garland pulls, I think about his SC nomination.

They may not have gotten HIM in, but they did succeed with some others... mad






He should be ashamed to be a white man. smile
I’m glad we have this place to bytch about it.
I still can’t comprehend the push?
If the unvaccinated are right wing Trump followers, wont not being vaccinated kill them or make them deathly sick?
If the vaccine sterilizes it sterilizes everyone
If the vaccine kills it kills everyone and I dont believe the NWO wants everyone dead still need slaves to make food and fight
So why the push? Is it just because they can?
DOJ is not the courts. DOJ cannot override any fed judge that rules otherwise.
Written opinion. Doj can suck a fat D!
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