308 earlier that sounded like it had misfired and only hit a dud primer, literally just a click. the suppressed 22 was much loader, I think it qualifies as a silencer.
Had to be subs. Even with full power loads it’s the biggest bang for your buck in the shooting world. I’d soooo much rather shoot suppressed than not. My 300BO has no redeemable value to me but it’s so fun to shoot.
I run a suppressor, but normally shoot regular supersonic loads. I did load up some 223 subsonic loads and the loudest sound is the bullet hitting the cardboard.
I haven't seen a suppressor on a centerfire that was anywhere near as quiet as a suppressed/subsonic 22lr , a gunsmith shot a sub-ammo 308 in his back yard telling me how quiet it was - my ears rang for 2 days . He then shot a full house load = LOUD .
Saw a video on Suppressors - guy shot sub-sonic 223 - another guy video'd from behind a steel plate as the bullet went by = loud . No bullet was not shot into steel plate .
Friend of mine stood behind a tree 10' from a target listening to a 780fps pellet gun pellet coming past - much louder than you'd think .
I crow hunt w/a CZ 452 Style suppressed , 1050fps ammo -crows react no different than they do with non suppressed .
I haven't seen a suppressor on a centerfire that was anywhere near as quiet as a suppressed/subsonic 22lr , a gunsmith shot a sub-ammo 308 in his back yard telling me how quiet it was - my ears rang for 2 days . He then shot a full house load = LOUD .
Saw a video on Suppressors - guy shot sub-sonic 223 - another guy video'd from behind a steel plate as the bullet went by = loud . No bullet was not shot into steel plate .
Friend of mine stood behind a tree 10' from a target listening to a 780fps pellet gun pellet coming past - much louder than you'd think .
I crow hunt w/a CZ 452 Style suppressed , 1050fps ammo -crows react no different than they do with non suppressed .
What suppressor is he running? My cheap harvester 30 with .308’s won’t ring your ears in the least?
Had to be subs. Even with full power loads it’s the biggest bang for your buck in the shooting world. I’d soooo much rather shoot suppressed than not. My 300BO has no redeemable value to me but it’s so fun to shoot.
I haven't seen a suppressor on a centerfire that was anywhere near as quiet as a suppressed/subsonic 22lr , a gunsmith shot a sub-ammo 308 in his back yard telling me how quiet it was - my ears rang for 2 days . He then shot a full house load = LOUD .
Saw a video on Suppressors - guy shot sub-sonic 223 - another guy video'd from behind a steel plate as the bullet went by = loud . No bullet was not shot into steel plate .
Friend of mine stood behind a tree 10' from a target listening to a 780fps pellet gun pellet coming past - much louder than you'd think .
I crow hunt w/a CZ 452 Style suppressed , 1050fps ammo -crows react no different than they do with non suppressed .
What suppressor is he running? My cheap harvester 30 with .308’s won’t ring your ears in the least?
I don't recall but it cost $800+ - was about 4-5 years ago .
LOL it had to be subsonic. Anyone who can’t really hear a regular ,308 round through even the best suppressor in the world, is half deaf already.
I'm half deaf and run a Sandman Ti on my 7 08 and 7 mag. I can shoot without hearing protection when using the can but it's still not anywhere near silent.
LOL it had to be subsonic. Anyone who can’t really hear a regular ,308 round through even the best suppressor in the world, is half deaf already.
I'm half deaf and run a Sandman Ti on my 7 08 and 7 mag. I can shoot without hearing protection when using the can but it's still not anywhere near silent.
Keep that up and the words HUH/WHAT/SAY AGAIN will become most of your vocabulary .
Suppressors are nice if you can manage the extra weight out front. The only way to get fully suppressed is with subsonic loads. At least that’s the way it is with mine. Mine does lower the sound quite a bit and takes some recoil out. I use an APA little B most of the time.
You're not getting rid of the crack unless you get it subsonic.
This is 520yds away from a suppressed .308 and that's with poor audio:
Sounds like he was running the wrong schit in his 22LR as most of the sound generated from standard ammo comes from the crack. If you run a 24" bolt gun with subsonics you will be damn close to what you can get with subs and a 16" suppressed.
There is some utility in sub-sonic .308's if you shoot them on rare occasion. I ended up dumping the idea and went .300BO. It's a much better mousetrap if you're after 200ish grains and SS.
Suppressors are nice if you can manage the extra weight out front. The only way to get fully suppressed is with subsonic loads. At least that’s the way it is with mine. Mine does lower the sound quite a bit and takes some recoil out. I use an APA little B most of the time.
To be honest, the weight is so minimal it’s inconsequential. Especially with barrel lengths in the 16”-20” range.
You're not getting rid of the crack unless you get it subsonic.
This is 520yds away from a suppressed .308 and that's with poor audio:
Sounds like he was running the wrong schit in his 22LR as most of the sound generated from standard ammo comes from the crack. If you run a 24" bolt gun with subsonics you will be damn close to what you can get with subs and a 16" suppressed.
There is some utility in sub-sonic .308's if you shoot them on rare occasion. I ended up dumping the idea and went .300BO. It's a much better mousetrap if you're after 200ish grains and SS.
Definitely, Running compressed loads normally means lower ES/SD. Less powder = less case capacity. Using a 32oz big gulp cup for a shot glass is stupid.
You're not getting rid of the crack unless you get it subsonic.
Sounds like he was running the wrong schit in his 22LR as most of the sound generated from standard ammo comes from the crack. If you run a 24" bolt gun with subsonics you will be damn close to what you can get with subs and a 16" suppressed.
There is some utility in sub-sonic .308's if you shoot them on rare occasion. I ended up dumping the idea and went .300BO. It's a much better mousetrap if you're after 200ish grains and SS.
A crowd of rioters are coming down the street to your neighborhood. If you had to choose between a 300BO sub suppressed SBR and a standard length 556, which would you rather have? The schit’s hitting the fan, scumbags everywhere, ranges between 10-150 feet.
You're not getting rid of the crack unless you get it subsonic.
Sounds like he was running the wrong schit in his 22LR as most of the sound generated from standard ammo comes from the crack. If you run a 24" bolt gun with subsonics you will be damn close to what you can get with subs and a 16" suppressed.
There is some utility in sub-sonic .308's if you shoot them on rare occasion. I ended up dumping the idea and went .300BO. It's a much better mousetrap if you're after 200ish grains and SS.
A crowd of rioters are coming down the street to your neighborhood. If you had to choose between a 300BO sub suppressed SBR and a standard length 556, which would you rather have? The schit’s hitting the fan, scumbags everywhere, ranges between 10-150 feet.
16” suppressed .308 with 155gr scenars at 2400fps.
The only downside is extra weight and length out front. That’s easily remedied with a LW gun with shorter barrel . Shooting suppressed is WELL worth all the costs.
You're not getting rid of the crack unless you get it subsonic.
Sounds like he was running the wrong schit in his 22LR as most of the sound generated from standard ammo comes from the crack. If you run a 24" bolt gun with subsonics you will be damn close to what you can get with subs and a 16" suppressed.
There is some utility in sub-sonic .308's if you shoot them on rare occasion. I ended up dumping the idea and went .300BO. It's a much better mousetrap if you're after 200ish grains and SS.
A crowd of rioters are coming down the street to your neighborhood. If you had to choose between a 300BO sub suppressed SBR and a standard length 556, which would you rather have? The schit’s hitting the fan, scumbags everywhere, ranges between 10-150 feet.
I ask because I was thinking of getting one of the M&P 22 with the integrally suppressed barrel. Full length is actually just over the SBR limit but I’d still need the suppressor approved.
Laffin...I’ve been reluctant with the wait period to get them out of jail.
Beave’s impatient...It’s time to get on with it.
Flave, idk, I shoot about 70-30 17 HMR and 17 WSM to my 22 LR. Put two in at once I figure.
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If you're doing a lot of calling with those type setups I guess it would work out alright. But nine times out of ten when a person hears that sonic crack with a variety of chamberings they realize they want their suppressed guns to be suppressed. Big/medium game and serious varmint hunters (pigs and dogs) are the exception. But you won't get any pleasure shooting a bunch of ammo out of a suppressed .17HMR or WSM without hearing protection.
I recommend people buy the can for their designated gun. Leave it on there, and let that be it.
So for example my centerfire rifle can is .308 and stays on my BO. Reload or not, I can always obtain subsonic ammo for that thing and it is designed to function at speed.
My centerfire pistol can is .45 cal. and stays on my 45 ACP. Same thing. Reload or not, I can always have subsonic ammo for that thing with bullets that are designed to function at those speeds.
My 22LR is the only can that jumps a bit. It almost always stays on my Buckmark but I do swap it to my CZ 455 when I need it. But same principle. Out of my Buckmark I don't need special ammo. Any type of standard velocity 22LR will be subsonic out of that gun and stay Hollywood quiet.
Laffin...I’ve been reluctant with the wait period to get them out of jail.
Beave’s impatient...It’s time to get on with it.
Flave, idk, I shoot about 70-30 17 HMR and 17 WSM to my 22 LR. Put two in at once I figure.
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If you're doing a lot of calling with those type setups I guess it would work out alright. But nine times out of ten when a person hears that sonic crack with a variety of chamberings they realize they want their suppressed guns to be suppressed. Big/medium game and serious varmint hunters (pigs and dogs) are the exception. But you won't get any pleasure shooting a bunch of ammo out of a suppressed .17HMR or WSM without hearing protection.
I recommend people buy the can for their designated gun. Leave it on there, and let that be it.
So for example my centerfire rifle can is .308 and stays on my BO. Reload or not, I can always obtain subsonic ammo for that thing and it is designed to function at speed.
My centerfire pistol can is .45 cal. and stays on my 45 ACP. Same thing. Reload or not, I can always have subsonic ammo for that thing with bullets that are designed to function at those speeds.
My 22LR is the only can that jumps a bit. It almost always stays on my Buckmark but I do swap it to my CZ 455 when I need it. But same principle. Out of my Buckmark I don't need special ammo. Any type of standard velocity 22LR will be subsonic out of that gun and stay Hollywood quiet.
Which is what I prefer.
And like magic, it all becomes clear. “You won’t get any pleasure shooting a bunch of ammo out of a suppressed 17 HMR/WSM without ears on”
Aside from saving some hearing loss, which is huge. Where is most of the hunting benefits found in running suppressed?
I’m thinking hog hunting would be one example.
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There’s no downside to hunting suppressed that I know of? There’s no trade off Beav, nothing but gain.
Originally Posted by Remsen
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Aside from saving some hearing loss, which is huge. Where is most of the hunting benefits found in running suppressed?
I’m thinking hog hunting would be one example.
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The recoil reduction is pretty impressive with the cans I run. It's like having a brake without the noise.
Interesting....
I’m not a cool kid, yet. No cans here. But, if I wanted to suppress a 22 LR or 17 HMR
Would a Thunder Beast 22 Takedown be a solid choice ?
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Silencerco sparrow or dead air mask Beav.
Jump in, the waters warm as bath water!
I second the sparrow recommendation. I have one on a 22/45 and it's become my favorite weapon to shoot. Add a bottle of vodka and it's a real party.
I’ve heard that you want a suppressor that you can easily clean the baffles inside.
Is the Sparrow one that is quick and ez to maintain ?
I’m not up to any speed on cans and what to look for....All I know is I’m figuring on spending about $400 max for the suppressor, not including the tax stamp.
Hell, just point me “North” and I’ll go with whatever is suggested based on user’s experiences
It's pretty easy to clean the sparrow once you've done it a few times. I just use some cleaner and a .40 cal brass case to get the buildup off once I pull it apart.
It's pretty easy to clean the sparrow once you've done it a few times. I just use some cleaner and a .40 cal brass case to get the buildup off once I pull it apart.
It's pretty easy to clean the sparrow once you've done it a few times. I just use some cleaner and a .40 cal brass case to get the buildup off once I pull it apart.
Buy a sonic cleaner you thrifty bastard.
Holy crap...I was informed before I could get offended.
It's pretty easy to clean the sparrow once you've done it a few times. I just use some cleaner and a .40 cal brass case to get the buildup off once I pull it apart.
Buy a sonic cleaner you thrifty bastard.
Holy crap...I was informed before I could get offended.
I spent only 7 days shooting a suppressed rifle. It was in Botswana with a loaned straight-pull Eurotrash Blaser in .30-'06. 8 shots, 7 kills from warthog to eland (had to shoot the wartie twice). Positive overall experience.
As far as serrated blades, once upon a midnight clear, a buddy of mine put old Kingston on a ~90lb bluefin south of the Vineyard on the troll. After hauling the feesh over the rail, I took my run-of-the-mill Benchmade 4" half serrated folder and did what needed to be done for sashimi grade tuna flesh. Brian seemed impressed and intrigued, and said that he never cared for serrated blades but after seeing me go full gewk-monster on that tuna and having had it properly prepped in about 4 minutes, declared that he wanted one.
About 3 weeks later, he writes to say that he bought one and HATED the serrations and that I must've cheated when I pulled his feesh apart with mine. Maybe he was right, maybe he was wong. Never knowee!
I spent only 7 days shooting a suppressed rifle. It was in Botswana with a loaned straight-pull Eurotrash Blaser in .30-'06. 8 shots, 7 kills from warthog to eland (had to shoot the wartie twice). Positive overall experience.
As far as serrated blades, once upon a midnight clear, a buddy of mine put old Kingston on a ~90lb bluefin south of the Vineyard on the troll. After hauling the feesh over the rail, I took my run-of-the-mill Benchmade 4" half serrated folder and did what needed to be done for sashimi grade tuna flesh. Brian seemed impressed and intrigued, and said that he never cared for serrated blades but after seeing me go full gewk-monster on that tuna and having had it properly prepped in about 4 minutes, declared that he wanted one.
About 3 weeks later, he writes to say that he bought one and HATED the serrations and that I must've cheated when I pulled his feesh apart with mine. Maybe he was right, maybe he was wong. Never knowee!
I thought you were gonna say you shot the tuna with a suppressed 06.
Perhaps. I think at least one example you've witnessed demonstrated 'in the field' that any old one can work just fine, assuming the guy wielding it actually knows how to run a breakdown using any kind of knife for the butchering purposes, no?
Perhaps. I think at least one example you've witnessed demonstrated 'in the field' that any old one can work just fine, assuming the guy wielding it actually knows how to run a breakdown using any kind of knife for the butchering purposes, no?
Are you talking about the little three bladed Case that Roger was using to trim his toenails with on DVD's boat?
I'm reminded of the saying, "let the chips fall where they may."
Not all serrations are created equal and some work exceedingly well.
If you look at Spyderco’s classic serration you’ll see what I mean. Match that with a sharpener designed to sharpen serrations and they will cut, slice, peel with any straight edge.
Not all serrations are created equal and some work exceedingly well.
If you look at Spyderco’s classic serration you’ll see what I mean. Match that with a sharpener designed to sharpen serrations and they will cut, slice, peel with any straight edge.
I have a serrated version of Spyderco's original kitchen knife. It's a great can opener.
Not all serrations are created equal and some work exceedingly well.
If you look at Spyderco’s classic serration you’ll see what I mean. Match that with a sharpener designed to sharpen serrations and they will cut, slice, peel with any straight edge.
Cutco serrated knives are wicked sharp and hold up.
Nothing like parting out an animal with a knife that looks and feels like a 1960’s kitchen utensil.
Laffin...I’ve been reluctant with the wait period to get them out of jail.
Beave’s impatient...It’s time to get on with it.
Flave, idk, I shoot about 70-30 17 HMR and 17 WSM to my 22 LR. Put two in at once I figure.
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If you're doing a lot of calling with those type setups I guess it would work out alright. But nine times out of ten when a person hears that sonic crack with a variety of chamberings they realize they want their suppressed guns to be suppressed. Big/medium game and serious varmint hunters (pigs and dogs) are the exception. But you won't get any pleasure shooting a bunch of ammo out of a suppressed .17HMR or WSM without hearing protection.
I recommend people buy the can for their designated gun. Leave it on there, and let that be it.
So for example my centerfire rifle can is .308 and stays on my BO. Reload or not, I can always obtain subsonic ammo for that thing and it is designed to function at speed.
My centerfire pistol can is .45 cal. and stays on my 45 ACP. Same thing. Reload or not, I can always have subsonic ammo for that thing with bullets that are designed to function at those speeds.
My 22LR is the only can that jumps a bit. It almost always stays on my Buckmark but I do swap it to my CZ 455 when I need it. But same principle. Out of my Buckmark I don't need special ammo. Any type of standard velocity 22LR will be subsonic out of that gun and stay Hollywood quiet.
Which is what I prefer.
CGS Siren, this can is dedicated and purchased that way, not rated for magnum’s. I’ve pretty much gone the same route. Osprey stays on the Dan Wesson but I did run it on the BO until my Helix came in.
I went with a Sandman Ti for my 300 BO as my first, I have a Dead Air 22 in jail. It is going on a Ruger pistol and maybe getting one of my CZ452’s threaded.
Counselor, your yard is a waiting law suit to happen.
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I once thought it was a good idea to try to get some of that under control. I made it about 5 feet from the porch and realized that if the Good Lord wanted the area to be mowed, He'd just have another wildfire run through the area. The yard keeps going for many miles until it hits the Crazies (it's only mine for 20 acres, though).
I once thought it was a good idea to try to get some of that under control. I made it about 5 feet from the porch and realized that if the Good Lord wanted the area to be mowed, He'd just have another wildfire run through the area. The yard keeps going for many miles until it hits the Crazies (it's only mine for 20 acres, though).
Apply for a mountain goat in the Crazies every year.
Find a SilencerCo shop /dealer. They have a kiosk now that takes your fingerprints and demographics and allows them to create your trust. One check and out the door.
I once thought it was a good idea to try to get some of that under control. I made it about 5 feet from the porch and realized that if the Good Lord wanted the area to be mowed, He'd just have another wildfire run through the area. The yard keeps going for many miles until it hits the Crazies (it's only mine for 20 acres, though).
Apply for a mountain goat in the Crazies every year.
One of these days, I will get the basics of being a Montana resident figured out, and it will all be because of Deacon Flave.
I once thought it was a good idea to try to get some of that under control. I made it about 5 feet from the porch and realized that if the Good Lord wanted the area to be mowed, He'd just have another wildfire run through the area. The yard keeps going for many miles until it hits the Crazies (it's only mine for 20 acres, though).
Apply for a mountain goat in the Crazies every year.
One of these days, I will get the basics of being a Montana resident figured out, and it will all be because of Deacon Flave.
You're not going to get quality in a 22LR suppressor if you dip below $300. Typically.
The TB huntsman posted is only costing you an extra $100 and you're getting a lot more suppressor for that small (outside of Oregon) amount of money. The ability to put it on a 5.7 alone should make it worth it.
So buy that one and stop with all the fugking questions. You're at least ten years behind already.
Beave, I've got 2 Dead Air Mask HD's and a Gemtech G22. I mostly run the Dead Airs on rifles and the G22 pretty much stays on a Ruger MKIII with a TacSol upper. All are extremely quiet with Standard Velocity ammo like CCI SV's (1050-1070 fps) or below.
If you're going to be using the can multi-platform, I'd suggest a Dead Air Mask. They seem to be mostly bulletproof. It's also right in your budget. They'll also handle .17HMR to .22 Mag, which I believe you run. ?? Not sure.
I shoot supersonic loads on my 243, with a SiCo Harvester. Super smooth and easy to shoot, hearing safe for a few shots, though if not hunting I still wear muffs. I have shot pigs, where the rest will spook, but they will head back towards me. Bullet hitting is louder than the crack, and they still can't pinpoint origin. The 7mm RM was also softer shooting and hearing safe for a few shots. 5.56s through the same suppressor are a little louder to my ear, but it helps a lot. I would say that 243, 5.56 and 7mm RM are quieter than an unsuppressed 22.
My approval for a Dead Air Mask 22 just came, I need to pick it up. Will use it on a SR22 and need to find a threaded bolt (thinking Tikka T1x 16" if I could find one, or a CZ457)
If a fella can hold steady there's no problem with pigs or crowd control with a .22 RF, even if shooting that crappy Russian ammo.
Barbarian,
I don't think that bullet was stabilized. Hole looks oblong.
Well, them Rooskies are an unruly lot. All 5 were determined to make their own hole. They settled down after it was obvious I could no longer hear their bitch’n. Silencers work on many levels.
You're not going to get quality in a 22LR suppressor if you dip below $300. Typically.
The TB huntsman posted is only costing you an extra $100 and you're getting a lot more suppressor for that small (outside of Oregon) amount of money. The ability to put it on a 5.7 alone should make it worth it.
So buy that one and stop with all the fugking questions. You're at least ten years behind already.
Oh, for fûcks sakes ! Why didn’t you just say that 15 post ago ?
Jeezus, it would be easier getting a dress off Miss America than having you give up some information quickly. 😝🤦🏽♂️
SB, thanks for trying to help 🙄. I’ve been staring at my iPad waiting for the PM icon to light up. Should I keep waiting for your PM ?
TBAC 22 Takedown is the one I will throw into jail. Thanks, Don !
No more questions from Oregon for now.
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Remsen, buy a goat or three and hang signs that say “Rocks ! Watch where you Walk”
It will at least look good in court should a trespasser try to sue you.
Find a SilencerCo shop /dealer. They have a kiosk now that takes your fingerprints and demographics and allows them to create your trust. One check and out the door.
Painless. Except for the waiting.
I went the Silencershop route recently, using a kiosk at a local gunshop. It was fairly painless. It should also make buying another can fairly simple from the gunshop inventory or Silencershop. Ordered a DeadAir Mask and now I need to decide on a .30cal can. There are quite a few good options out there for direct thread.
You're not going to get quality in a 22LR suppressor if you dip below $300. Typically.
The TB huntsman posted is only costing you an extra $100 and you're getting a lot more suppressor for that small (outside of Oregon) amount of money. The ability to put it on a 5.7 alone should make it worth it.
So buy that one and stop with all the fugking questions. You're at least ten years behind already.
Oh, for fûcks sakes ! Why didn’t you just say that 15 post ago ?
Jeezus, it would be easier getting a dress off Miss America than having you give up some information quickly. 😝🤦🏽♂️
SB, thanks for trying to help 🙄. I’ve been staring at my iPad waiting for the PM icon to light up. Should I keep waiting for your PM ?
TBAC 22 Takedown is the one I will throw into jail. Thanks, Don !
No more questions from Oregon for now.
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Remsen, buy a goat or three and hang signs that say “Rocks ! Watch where you Walk”
It will at least look good in court should a trespasser try to sue you.
Sorry, bro. I was working on it and then Gilligan's island came on, Mary Ann is hawt! Looks like you got it figured out tho. 😉
Find a SilencerCo shop /dealer. They have a kiosk now that takes your fingerprints and demographics and allows them to create your trust. One check and out the door.
Painless. Except for the waiting.
I went the Silencershop route recently, using a kiosk at a local gunshop. It was fairly painless. It should also make buying another can fairly simple from the gunshop inventory or Silencershop. Ordered a DeadAir Mask and now I need to decide on a .30cal can. There are quite a few good options out there for direct thread.
I've been waiting for YHM Resonator 2s to be back in stock at Silencershop and they just came in this week. They get good reviews and since getting a YHM Turbo for my AR, I've become a fan of YHM products. So I can't vouch for the Resonator 2 based on experience with it, but I can vouch for YHM products generally (plus, the R2 is under $600). And I never had to get my butt off my chair to order and do all the paperwork for the can order thanks to Silencershop...first can I bought a few years back was through them and the kiosk and since then, all I have to do is log in to the account and buy the product, they do all the paperwork through email and docusign.
This threads killing me. I have five in NFA jail right now. I should have bought them years ago. I hope to get the call on the first two that I bought anytime now.
Probably one of those morons that stares at the McDonalds menu for ten minutes while he stands in front of the register.
Asking schit like "What does that come with exactly?"
Listen up dumb-nuts, because this is the last compliment I will ever give you.
I did a thread on a 20lb Bobcat that I called in today...Suffice to say, I said 20lbs, but idk, cuz I’m not a cat judge on weight.
All our esteemed members just let me believe I saw a 20lb cat while secretly flipping me shît. Nobody came right out and said, hey, dipshit, chances you had a 20 pound cat is slim to never.
What the hell is that kind of BS ? Let a guy believe in fantasyland ?
Flave, would never allow that. I’d have been informed how fûck’n impossible that was and to sell my predator gear.