I have given or loaned my 2006 Honda Element to my daughter who lives in Seattle. She walks to work, but needs a car on the week end. She lives in a high rise condo and parks on the street.
The converter was stolen a week ago. Her boyfriend had the car towed to the Bellevue Honda dealer. They gave a high estimate.
The insurance company sent a low check, $2.5k.
I called Bellevue Honda. They said $2.5k is ok....... but they have (9) Honda Elements on the lot now waiting for ordered converters. I asked the dealer if the new converter would get stolen as soon as my daughter parked it again. The dealer said, "Yes, it will probably get stolen again as soon as you park it in Seattle."
I called my daughter and told her of the risks for a new converter. She said catalytic converter guards are $400, but she found one on Ebay for $300.
Too bad those thieves won’t work that hard on a legitimate job. A guy would sure like to bounce a couple of ounces of #8 shot off the pavement to discourage such behavior.
That's a cryin a$$ shame that we put up with the low life good for nothing space wasting thieves. The last major burglary I had, the poeleece were like why don't you have cameras, why don't you have alarms, you have insurance don't you? you can't have nice XXXX and park it outside (In my own driveway on my own property)
We ( people in this country/society) continually make excuses/ justifications for low life good for nothing thieves. Well that's my son/daughter/ nephew/ best friend/ long time friend, and I love them/ care for them etc. etc. etc.
IMO I should really be able to leave anything laying on the front porch or anywhere else, and have it still sitting there as I left it when I return. I don't blame someone and point fingers at someone if they want to spend their own money on a nice vehicle or clothing or wear jewelry or whatever. If they spend all their money on things then don't have money to buy food, that's their problem too But it's their stuff and others shouldn't diddle with things that they know damned a-well don't belong to them
There's a drughead right across from here that needs to be back in prison where he's been to several times. After his last release, he went right back to getting high and stealing and making bastard babies and living as a professional bum and daylong sleeper. Grandma and his family make excuses and enable him and blame dope and the county gubmint for his uselessness. He'd have to have intensive training to get work as a door stop. The sad part is that there's many thousands just like him
It was a big thing out here a decade or so ago and seems to have been making a big resurgence lately. Walmart, Costco, mall, HD, etc……parking lots are big targets out here.
That's a cryin a$$ shame that we put up with the low life good for nothing space wasting thieves. The last major burglary I had, the poeleece were like why don't you have cameras, why don't you have alarms, you have insurance don't you? you can't have nice XXXX and park it outside (In my own driveway on my own property)
We ( people in this country/society) continually make excuses/ justifications for low life good for nothing thieves. Well that's my son/daughter/ nephew/ best friend/ long time friend, and I love them/ care for them etc. etc. etc.
IMO I should really be able to leave anything laying on the front porch or anywhere else, and have it still sitting there as I left it when I return. I don't blame someone and point fingers at someone if they want to spend their own money on a nice vehicle or clothing or wear jewelry or whatever. If they spend all their money on things then don't have money to buy food, that's their problem too But it's their stuff and others shouldn't diddle with things that they know damned a-well don't belong to them
There's a drughead right across from here that needs to be back in prison where he's been to several times. After his last release, he went right back to getting high and stealing and making bastard babies and living as a professional bum and daylong sleeper. Grandma and his family make excuses and enable him and blame dope and the county gubmint for his uselessness. He'd have to have intensive training to get work as a door stop. The sad part is that there's many thousands just like him
This right here. Too many excuses, and not near enough punishment to deter property, trespassing crimes, etc. A man's home and property is sacred. SACRED. It should be treated as such.
I wonder how much a thief could get for a stolen catalytic converter. Whoever buys them has to know they are stolen.
I read that depending on the type, they can be worth up to $400 as scrap. Some have more platinum, etc. in them so they're worth more. Of course the salvage places know they're stolen but money talks.
Sounds like an opportunity to hunt over bait. Park that car in the correct location, sit back a hundred yards in another car or in a condo window, and wait for them.
That's a cryin a$$ shame that we put up with the low life good for nothing space wasting thieves. The last major burglary I had, the poeleece were like why don't you have cameras, why don't you have alarms, you have insurance don't you? you can't have nice XXXX and park it outside (In my own driveway on my own property)
We ( people in this country/society) continually make excuses/ justifications for low life good for nothing thieves. Well that's my son/daughter/ nephew/ best friend/ long time friend, and I love them/ care for them etc. etc. etc.
IMO I should really be able to leave anything laying on the front porch or anywhere else, and have it still sitting there as I left it when I return. I don't blame someone and point fingers at someone if they want to spend their own money on a nice vehicle or clothing or wear jewelry or whatever. If they spend all their money on things then don't have money to buy food, that's their problem too But it's their stuff and others shouldn't diddle with things that they know damned a-well don't belong to them
There's a drughead right across from here that needs to be back in prison where he's been to several times. After his last release, he went right back to getting high and stealing and making bastard babies and living as a professional bum and daylong sleeper. Grandma and his family make excuses and enable him and blame dope and the county gubmint for his uselessness. He'd have to have intensive training to get work as a door stop. The sad part is that there's many thousands just like him
That's typical government creating a problem and pretending to provide a solution. We need less tax for less police and fewer laws preventing us from handling our own business. Seriously. Cops can't do all the things people ask them to do no matter how much money you throw at them.
And if they're just going to shoot people we may as well do it ourselves and save the tax.
Buy the cat on Rock Auto and take it to a muffler shop to get it installed. California compliant cat is $580, if you need 2, that's still less than $1200. Even if shop charges $500 to install them, you still walk away with $800 in your pocket.
If you dont have to meet Carb standards, a good EPA cat is less than $400. Dont buy the cheapest one, but no need to buy the highest priced one either.
Dont know how hard it is to change on the car, but I changed one on my truck about 2 months ago.... took about an hour. Most, I wont say all, cat convertors bolt on.
Have any friends with a welder and torch? Someone not in business, but a buddy who would help you for a case of beer or a gift certificate?
Probably wouldn't be hard to fab some kind of shield to protect the pipes and the hangers. Ideally, you buy some hardenable steel from Granger or Fastenall. Get it to shape harden the most likely to be cut spots.
You can't make it theft proof. But when they see thicker steel protecting the thin stuff, And if the saw just won't cut. They aren't going to keep going.
Ckarkm This happened a lot in 2007-8 In california it is technically illegal to sell used exhaust parts but it is still done... You could probably get a stainless catback system from J.C. whitney for less. I picked up a new stainless cat back and muffler off craugskist once for something like $150...
That's a cryin a$$ shame that we put up with the low life good for nothing space wasting thieves. The last major burglary I had, the poeleece were like why don't you have cameras, why don't you have alarms, you have insurance don't you? you can't have nice XXXX and park it outside (In my own driveway on my own property)
We ( people in this country/society) continually make excuses/ justifications for low life good for nothing thieves. Well that's my son/daughter/ nephew/ best friend/ long time friend, and I love them/ care for them etc. etc. etc.
IMO I should really be able to leave anything laying on the front porch or anywhere else, and have it still sitting there as I left it when I return. I don't blame someone and point fingers at someone if they want to spend their own money on a nice vehicle or clothing or wear jewelry or whatever. If they spend all their money on things then don't have money to buy food, that's their problem too But it's their stuff and others shouldn't diddle with things that they know damned a-well don't belong to them
There's a drughead right across from here that needs to be back in prison where he's been to several times. After his last release, he went right back to getting high and stealing and making bastard babies and living as a professional bum and daylong sleeper. Grandma and his family make excuses and enable him and blame dope and the county gubmint for his uselessness. He'd have to have intensive training to get work as a door stop. The sad part is that there's many thousands just like him
That's typical government creating a problem and pretending to provide a solution. We need less tax for less police and fewer laws preventing us from handling our own business. Seriously. Cops can't do all the things people ask them to do no matter how much money you throw at them.
And if they're just going to shoot people we may as well do it ourselves and save the tax.
Or the cops should make it known that they are going to put as much effort into investigating shootings of thieves as they put into investigating thefts. That should temper a thief's enthusiasm.
They hit us at work, about 35 were stolen. They still haven’t repaired all of them. They had to rent vehicles so the guys would have something to drive.
The problem here was that the jail had such restrictive intake policies because of COVID that it wasn't taking property crime thieves. The police kept dealing with the same people over and over again because the thieves thought they were untouchable. The police finally cut a deal with a county jail 70 miles up the highway with a less restrictive COVID policy and started transporting arrestees there.
A cat is worth $400 as scrap. In CA you can steal up to $900 without fear of arrest. You can argue that replacing the cat will cost $1000 but you know any good lawyer will get it valued as scrap, not replacement cost.
A cat is worth $400 as scrap. In CA you can steal up to $900 without fear of arrest. You can argue that replacing the cat will cost $1000 but you know any good lawyer will get it valued as scrap, not replacement cost.
Are they that heavy a scrap or is there something special about them?
A cat is worth $400 as scrap. In CA you can steal up to $900 without fear of arrest. You can argue that replacing the cat will cost $1000 but you know any good lawyer will get it valued as scrap, not replacement cost.
Are they that heavy a scrap or is there something special about them?
Aftermarket cats are sometimes not recognized by the vehicles computer. I tried an after market cat on a titan, it didn’t take.
That sucks about Texas and their annual vehicle inspections. If the check engine light is on, you can’t get an inspection. No inspection, no current tags….
Aftermarket cats are sometimes not recognized by the vehicles computer. I tried an after market cat on a titan, it didn’t take.
That sucks about Texas and their annual vehicle inspections. If the check engine light is on, you can’t get an inspection. No inspection, no current tags….
In my '04 van, the light's been on for 2 years. It's the front O2 sensor. It's in an impossible place and it has to be on a hoist to get at it. It costs $100 in labor to get it replaced. It's just a beater run around car so I haven't bothered to get it fixed.
Colorado adopts California law so you cannot get a non compliant cat. No one will ship to Colorado. I would like to let the jack down on a thief but they target high clearance trucks. Running over his legs would be second. The way they do things maybe they can outlaw battery saws. After all there is a law against having starter fluid and corelle bakeware together. ( meth)
My old f150 has all the exhaust welded on and it is rusty.
Watch and wait. When he gets it cut off, shoot him in the knee with a .22 short and watch him try to run away. Laugh your azz off, and shoot him in the other knee! Retrieve converter, drive a few blocks away, wire it into place and set up another ambush.
I'd just weld in straight pipe before I'd pay $2500 for a new one...
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Not an option on a lot of newer vehicles. If it has a pre and post O2 sensor (closed loop) the vehicle may not run correctly without the catalyst. If it just has the pre-cat sensor, throw in a pipe and rock on. I'd certainly look at aftermarket options.
Sounds like an opportunity to hunt over bait. Park that car in the correct location, sit back a hundred yards in another car or in a condo window, and wait for them.
In Seattle thieves are not arrested under the restorative justice mandates thanks to BLM and antifa
Sounds like an opportunity to hunt over bait. Park that car in the correct location, sit back a hundred yards in another car or in a condo window, and wait for them.
In Seattle thieves are not arrested under the restorative justice mandates thanks to BLM and antifa
Colorado adopts California law so you cannot get a non compliant cat. No one will ship to Colorado. I would like to let the jack down on a thief but they target high clearance trucks. Running over his legs would be second. The way they do things maybe they can outlaw battery saws. After all there is a law against having starter fluid and corelle bakeware together. ( meth)
My old f150 has all the exhaust welded on and it is rusty.
You can still get a CARB cat convertor shipped to Co. Thought higher priced than a EPA convertor, they are still cheaper than OEM.
I'd just weld in straight pipe before I'd pay $2500 for a new one...
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Good idea, if your state doesn't check emissions and if the computer in the vehicle will let the vehicle run. I tried that on my truck and it started missing and had no power. Mechanic told me the computer was confused. Put a cat convertor on it and the problem went away.
Sounds like an opportunity to hunt over bait. Park that car in the correct location, sit back a hundred yards in another car or in a condo window, and wait for them.
In Seattle thieves are not arrested under the restorative justice mandates thanks to BLM and antifa
I simply would not live in such a place, whatever the attractions or advantages. Government exists to protect us and our property. When they refuse to do their job, it’s time to pull up stakes. No doubt you’d be in more trouble than the thieves if you tried to stop them, just like Britain, where it’s illegal to resist criminals and thieves generally get a lecture then released.
We have some areas in WV where theft is rampant, but the police will at least arrest and charge them.
Where my daughter lives is in the center of the square mile of all retail businesses are boarded up at the street level. When she walks to work, she goes past the homeless tents. Due to covid, she works from home [a tiny one bedroom condo on the 5th floor].
Watch and wait. When he gets it cut off, shoot him in the knee with a .22 short and watch him try to run away. Laugh your azz off, and shoot him in the other knee! Retrieve converter, drive a few blocks away, wire it into place and set up another ambush.
Where my daughter lives is in the center of the square mile of all retail businesses are boarded up at the street level. When she walks to work, she goes past the homeless tents. Due to covid, she works from home [a tiny one bedroom condo on the 5th floor].
Why ANYONE would subject themselves to live in a crap, drug, and crime infested place full of liberal arseholes is beyond me! There’s absolutely no job worth that. I’m guessing your daughter is the victim of some liberal brainwashing university? Why the hell would she want to stay in a place where your life is less valuable than a welfare moms next fix? I’ve a friend whose daughter is doing the same. She seems to think its some white penitence thing (and I think she likes to party)
Many catalytic converter thieves tend to operate in an organized fashion and 'specialize' in certain types of vehicles and where parked, and when the 'heat' starts getting too intense they back off for a while or else leave the area and start up elsewhere.
Around here they seem to much prefer stealing from business vehicles rather than private, especially box trucks. A little while back the box trucks belonging to Habitat for Humanity in a nearby town, which is located in an area with no private residences nearby, low traffic at night and minimal street lighting, had the catalytic converters stolen off them back-to-back times.
Where my daughter lives is in the center of the square mile of all retail businesses are boarded up at the street level. When she walks to work, she goes past the homeless tents. Due to covid, she works from home [a tiny one bedroom condo on the 5th floor].
You need to get her out of there…
^^^This^^^
She should be able to to work anywhere with an internet connection.
ain't just Seattle. They steal them daily here in Florida too. Takes very little time, makes almost no noise, yields a big payoff. Another crime and expense created by our government.
TACOMA, Washington — A man shot and killed someone he caught trying to steal a catalytic converter from his truck in Lakewood, then dragged his body behind the truck to a field and dumped it, police said.
The 54-year-old man was sleeping in his truck Saturday when he woke up about 3:45 a.m. because of loud noises and his truck vibrating. When he looked out, he saw a man halfway beneath his truck apparently trying to steal the catalytic converter. “He shoots him,” Lt. Chris Lawler said.
The would-be thief tried to get in his own vehicle to leave but was unable to do so because of the gunshot wound.
“The suspect approaches him again and fires at him again,” Lawler said.
The man then used rope to tie the would-be thief to the ball hitch of his truck and dragged him to a nearby field behind some railroad tracks. He untied the body and left, police said.
TACOMA, Washington — A man shot and killed someone he caught trying to steal a catalytic converter from his truck in Lakewood, then dragged his body behind the truck to a field and dumped it, police said.
The 54-year-old man was sleeping in his truck Saturday when he woke up about 3:45 a.m. because of loud noises and his truck vibrating. When he looked out, he saw a man halfway beneath his truck apparently trying to steal the catalytic converter. “He shoots him,” Lt. Chris Lawler said.
The would-be thief tried to get in his own vehicle to leave but was unable to do so because of the gunshot wound.
“The suspect approaches him again and fires at him again,” Lawler said.
The man then used rope to tie the would-be thief to the ball hitch of his truck and dragged him to a nearby field behind some railroad tracks. He untied the body and left, police said.
Here's the rest of the story, and the part that frankly is the real problem in this country.
Originally Posted by Newspaper
A truck driver saw him dragging the body behind his truck and called 911.
Officers responded to the field and found the 40-year-old victim dead. He has not been publicly identified.
As police were interviewing the truck driver about what he saw, the alleged shooter drove by and was stopped by police.
He was booked into Pierce County Jail on suspicion of second-degree murder and is expected to be arraigned this afternoon.
The thief was the "victim"!? In another related article, apparently he has been at it for quite some time costing folks tens of thousands of dollars in property damage.
Victim my ass. Its called, man defends property. If you want to charge him with something, how about, illegal dumping of trash.
It would be interesting if one heard the sound of s Sawzall and just slowly let the jack down that was holding the vehicle up. High enough for survival, low enough to pin them in place.
10 or 15 minutes ought to be enough time get their attention.
1. Typical overblown campfire fantasy hype about “thousands”
Don't know what the thieves get for them, but the cost to replace may be what folks are referring to as "thousands".
For my F250 diesel I just checked rockauto.com since they typically have good prices and inventory ... they showed three different cats for it but were "Out of Stock" for all three (gee, wonder why?). Then I checked an online Ford Dealer which offers significant discounts to MSRP (autonationfordwhitebearlake.com). They show MSRP to be $2257.62 and their discounted price is $1557.76.
Most Ford dealers here will charge full MSRP but well in excess of a thousand either way. When my FICM started to go, the stealership prices were well north of $500, but I picked it up for a little over $100 from an International truck dealer.
We really don't need any more laws to restrict tools or objects We need to deal with lawbreakers and imprison them or execute them if needed, or we need to back away when a homeowner or property owner tries to defend their lives or their belongings The owner of a vehicle doesn't deserve to have some POS damage their property whether it's insured or repairable or not. Leave stuff alone if it doesn't belong to you.
Good people or people that have "lost their way " don't commit crimes. Let's stop making excuses for people breaking the law and condemning those trying to protect what's theirs
We really don't need any more laws to restrict tools or objects We need to deal with lawbreakers and imprison them or execute them if needed, or we need to back away when a homeowner or property owner tries to defend their lives or their belongings The owner of a vehicle doesn't deserve to have some POS damage their property whether it's insured or repairable or not. Leave stuff alone if it doesn't belong to you.
Good people or people that have "lost their way " don't commit crimes. Let's stop making excuses for people breaking the law and condemning those trying to protect what's theirs
I have given or loaned my 2006 Honda Element to my daughter who lives in Seattle. She walks to work, but needs a car on the week end. She lives in a high rise condo and parks on the street.
The converter was stolen a week ago. Her boyfriend had the car towed to the Bellevue Honda dealer. They gave a high estimate.
The insurance company sent a low check, $2.5k.
I called Bellevue Honda. They said $2.5k is ok....... but they have (9) Honda Elements on the lot now waiting for ordered converters. I asked the dealer if the new converter would get stolen as soon as my daughter parked it again. The dealer said, "Yes, it will probably get stolen again as soon as you park it in Seattle."
I called my daughter and told her of the risks for a new converter. She said catalytic converter guards are $400, but she found one on Ebay for $300.
A catalytic converter chastity belt?
You need to shop around. The most expensive catalytic convertor Rock Auto sells for a 2006 Honda Element is a little over $900.
Had to buy a new pickup June 25th, someone broke in the company lot and stole the cats off my 2006 Silverado with 265,000 miles. Paid off. Was getting due for replacement.
Many catalytic converter thieves tend to operate in an organized fashion and 'specialize' in certain types of vehicles and where parked, and when the 'heat' starts getting too intense they back off for a while or else leave the area and start up elsewhere.
Around here they seem to much prefer stealing from business vehicles rather than private, especially box trucks. A little while back the box trucks belonging to Habitat for Humanity in a nearby town, which is located in an area with no private residences nearby, low traffic at night and minimal street lighting, had the catalytic converters stolen off them back-to-back times.
They're bigger and therefore more valuable, I suppose. Then there's the added bonus of business vehicles tending to fleets parked in one place.
A few months back they got 5 from the city box trucks at our Denver facility (one of those strip-warehouse deals with dozens of businesses and no fence). They park the trucks inside the warehouse now.
I live in a pretty rural area, school gets most of the tax dollars, but the buses are still pretty old. That and the fact they are diesel. They have a set of mufflers, no cats. The junkies did manage to steal several though. I guess they stopped because they were worthless. I'm sure they thought they had hit the mother lode, those mufflers are huge.
Our box truck has had the batteries and cats stolen when parked outside our warehouse. Batteries are relatively cheap. Cat for the Isuzu diesel, not so much.
Hoping the aforementioned dead fella from the article was the perp. Same area and all. Good riddance.
1. Typical overblown campfire fantasy hype about “thousands”
Don't know what the thieves get for them, but the cost to replace may be what folks are referring to as "thousands".
For my F250 diesel I just checked rockauto.com since they typically have good prices and inventory ... they showed three different cats for it but were "Out of Stock" for all three (gee, wonder why?). Then I checked an online Ford Dealer which offers significant discounts to MSRP (autonationfordwhitebearlake.com). They show MSRP to be $2257.62 and their discounted price is $1557.76.
Most Ford dealers here will charge full MSRP but well in excess of a thousand either way. When my FICM started to go, the stealership prices were well north of $500, but I picked it up for a little over $100 from an International truck dealer.
That's a neat trick, putting a catalytic converter on a diesel truck...... hope it works out for you.
had a azz try to steal one off my tundra a few years back, my belgian malinois pulled his azz out from under the truck and tore his azz up, held him with a choke grip to the state police came
Same thing happened to my Denver son, and he lives in a decent neighborhood.(that's relative IMO - no city is "decent" to live in)). Itt takes just a couple minutes to take those things off - one would think they would be manufactured to be more secure without an additional chastity belt.
They were gone for the weekend.... insurance priced theirs (Honda or Kia?) at 2500 minus their $250 deductible.
It used to be platinum in them, but I'm not sure about that now. I read someplace (Dogs of War?), there is or may be a replacement for platinum since initially made.
And "scrap" isn't what these things are being sold as, after being stolen, I bet. Why pay $2500 for a new one, when you can get a stolen one for less than half that on eBay or Craigslist? Or sell it to an unethical repair shop, who then installs it as a new one. Who is to know?
I was wrong apparently. Surprise!
From Wikipedia:
The catalyst itself is most often a mix of precious metals, mostly from the platinum group. Platinum is the most active catalyst and is widely used, but is not suitable for all applications because of unwanted additional reactions and high cost. Palladium and rhodium are two other precious metals used. Rhodium is used as a reduction catalyst, palladium is used as an oxidation catalyst, and platinum is used both for reduction and oxidation. Cerium, iron, manganese, and nickel are also used, although each has limitations. Nickel is not legal for use in the European Union because of its reaction with carbon monoxide into toxic nickel tetracarbonyl.[citation needed] Copper can be used everywhere except Japan.[clarification needed] Upon failure, a catalytic converter can be recycled into scrap. The precious metals inside the converter, including platinum, palladium, and rhodium, are extracted.
Local police dept put a add in the paper to warn people of catalytic thieves in Cheyenne, using cordless saws, take under 3 min start to end. Reward offered also What's worse is the scrap buyers paying for them with out a care of where the sellers (thieves) got them
Local police dept put a add in the paper to warn people of catalytic thieves in Cheyenne, using cordless saws, take under 3 min start to end. Reward offered also What's worse is the scrap buyers paying for them with out a care of where the sellers (thieves) got them
Sounds like an opportunity to hunt over bait. Park that car in the correct location, sit back a hundred yards in another car or in a condo window, and wait for them.
That would be a good way to get a murder conviction.
1. Typical overblown campfire fantasy hype about “thousands”
Don't know what the thieves get for them, but the cost to replace may be what folks are referring to as "thousands".
For my F250 diesel I just checked rockauto.com since they typically have good prices and inventory ... they showed three different cats for it but were "Out of Stock" for all three (gee, wonder why?). Then I checked an online Ford Dealer which offers significant discounts to MSRP (autonationfordwhitebearlake.com). They show MSRP to be $2257.62 and their discounted price is $1557.76.
Most Ford dealers here will charge full MSRP but well in excess of a thousand either way. When my FICM started to go, the stealership prices were well north of $500, but I picked it up for a little over $100 from an International truck dealer.
That's a neat trick, putting a catalytic converter on a diesel truck...... hope it works out for you.
We really don't need any more laws to restrict tools or objects We need to deal with lawbreakers and imprison them or execute them if needed, or we need to back away when a homeowner or property owner tries to defend their lives or their belongings The owner of a vehicle doesn't deserve to have some POS damage their property whether it's insured or repairable or not. Leave stuff alone if it doesn't belong to you. Stay off of property that isn't yours and that you don't have permission to be on
Good people or people that have "lost their way " don't commit crimes. Let's stop making excuses for people breaking the law and condemning those trying to protect what's theirs
1. Typical overblown campfire fantasy hype about “thousands”
Don't know what the thieves get for them, but the cost to replace may be what folks are referring to as "thousands".
For my F250 diesel I just checked rockauto.com since they typically have good prices and inventory ... they showed three different cats for it but were "Out of Stock" for all three (gee, wonder why?). Then I checked an online Ford Dealer which offers significant discounts to MSRP (autonationfordwhitebearlake.com). They show MSRP to be $2257.62 and their discounted price is $1557.76.
Most Ford dealers here will charge full MSRP but well in excess of a thousand either way. When my FICM started to go, the stealership prices were well north of $500, but I picked it up for a little over $100 from an International truck dealer.
I’ve cut the cats off of a few cars and trucks I’ve driven as they age and start going problems.
I’m not under any inspection for my local area so I never replaced them. Used to lift weights with an bud that has a muffler shop, he’s fixed me up before. I did have an issue once with a crown vic police car, he put a salvaged cat on for me for $50.
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