so we've been hiring people during the covid nonsense allowing them to work from home.

When we hire people we put them in a self paced training program that will last approximately 6 weeks.

We check in with them weekly and get feedback on how the training was going.

We had about 11 people on a team. At the end of the 6 weeks, 2 of them asked for additional time, which we did. then another 2 weeks.After 10 weeks of this, my guy starts checking on them. Turns out they have done nothing - haven't even touched the training material

I suspect they interviewed for the job, got hired and collected 10 weeks of salary ,which was roughly about $21K before taxes while still working their original job.

Live and learn - from now on when we hire someone in this situation we'll have to have them show progress in a live demo each week as opposed to taking their word for it.

But if any of you don't have a moral compass and want to earn some free money, this is a way to do it

I'm shocked

thats friggen sad. what kind of work?

What is the job?

My moral compass is questionable.
Gotta link ?

Grins....

Have link to that job, I could use a 10 weeks pay for nothing .

I have hard time believing anyone would hire a new employee and not check on them on 10 weeks .

If you still need help, I'm available

its not that we didn't check on them, we had 2 managers meet with them weekly. This was computer based training where they were given assignments each week to complete tasks.

At the end of the training, they give a presentation on the tasks they completed. Normally we do this face to face so we are there daily with them, working next to them.

Amazingly, that's right about how long ago the free Covid money from .gov ran out.

I'm pretty sure that was a Seinfeld episode. George and the "Penske File" He didn't know what he was supposed to do, and too embarrassed to ask, so he did nothing and bullshitted everyone till the boss came back and checked on the file. Funny as hell.

Soooooo, what's the job?

LMAO! Good episode. There is a Seinfeld episode for almost everything.

Best training is doing. Put them in a team that is doing an actual project. Give them a task.

I've seen similar things before. You always take a chance on a new hire.

^^^Fully vaccinated^^^

LOL

Bahahahaha. What dumb HR person thought that would work? This might be the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while.

BTW - send through your website so I can apply!

2k each week I take job applica where ??

Your company deserves to fail spectacularly.... but since you are on the government tit you will not.

Our 18 year old daughter works a full time desk job, and waits tables a couple
days.

At $2k/week I'm sure she would actually do your training during down time
at the desk job. For $1k she would then do the job.

Don't tell me she isn't qualified.


You all were paying people who did nothing over $100k/yr!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Paper pushers special.

Bet your corksorker HR department knows ever fart left by
the men actually producing for the company. Making sure no one
has a girly calender, no racist/gay/sexual joke goes unpunished.
Firing anyone that gets hurt actually working.......

But, the management side?


"Do this from home, at your pace. If it takes you 33% longer than normal?
That's ok. At 66% we might check on you.🤣🤣"

What happens to a producer that has one week where he feels bad and
only gets out 80%?
Bet know one even notices? Nope, he gets the proctologist treatment.

If I was paying someone $21k in 10 weeks and had no history with them, I’d be checking in way before 10 weeks. Half the country voted for Joe Biden, that should be a red flag.

A hundred grand to work from home? Sounds like a damn good job.

The weekly meetings obviously weren't rigorous enough to detect people who didn't touch a training manual for 10 weeks. My wife hired a remote worker after Covid hit last year and met with her almost daily. She was an excellent worker and colleague and accomplished much in a short time. (Her husband's job became tenuous due to a corporate restructuring, so she had to leave to make more money elsewhere.) My wife has worked remotely since March of last year and gets much more accomplished with zero wasted time in cars and airplanes.

That is simply amazing... I honestly have no idea how to respond...

On the flip side of this, you have large corporations whose tech support departments take 2 weeks to fix problems their new $50/hr programmers have accessing their work resources. It's like groundhog day, every day you bug them about it and all you get is "we'll call you back".

I'll give you a call in a couple of years when I retire. I can work from home.

Oh, so true. Multiply that for gov workers.

I was wondering, are these hardware or software jobs? Must be software?

Habla Espanol ?

Having owned and operated several companies over the last 35+ years, I would not expect ANY of my short term employees to be magically self-motivated, especially new hires with zero track record.

I believe your expectations and trust went a smidgen too high. Hopefully a lesson learned.

Goody, more corporate ineptness passed onto the customer.

What was the job they were hired to do? 6-10 weeks unsupervised online tutorial/training... easy $$.

we've done this before without issue, multiple times so we were caught off guard. In addition to the 2 weekly meetings, technical and manager, they also had to fill out a progress checklist showing which modules they completed.

so yea, they were more or less on the honor system as to their progress but up until now, every employee we hired had a long term goal with the company and it was in their best interest to let us know if they were having problems and we'd address it.

So I just finished a meeting where I have to assign a headcount to monitor their progress which means I have to pull him off other projects which puts me behind on my FY22 goals.

Its a software position we are talking about. We just weren't prepared to be scammed by someone who going to go thru all the effort - screening, drug testing,etc to collect a check. I guess it was worth it, They got 10 weeks of salary for about 5 hours of work and sitting in on 2 meetings a week lying about what they did.

The job they were hired to do was to go configure the software for customers on a project team after they completed the training.

I recognize we have alot of experts here that know how to run a technical training program on the cloud during a pandemic. My mistake was not consulting the campfire before hand.

What sort of software position? Totally remote, or need to be in Ohio? 'rona juice jab required? Know a young man that just got out of military and is looking for a tech job.

We have a 20 week training program starting in June for new hire college grads or we do hire alot of military. Starting pay is around $75K with a quarterly bonus. I don't have anyone local in Ohio in the program, its all over the United States.

Jab isn't required, exemption (that is essentially rubber stamped ) is.

I could see where that would need training from the start.

If they were truly working two jobs I'm sure what gave hem the confidence to pull this off was the fact that they had the other position and neither company knew the other employment existed. Usually because of intellectual property and confidentiality agreements there are issues with dual employment for anyone.

yea, we were about to ship them a customer laptop, luckily we stopped it. That would have been a disaster

The new trend is working two remote jobs at the same time. Sounds like with this gig, a guy could make it three?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackke...-both-companies-knowing/?sh=2e8847217f30

Are you curious about what other people have been doing while working from home during the pandemic? It's always interesting to find out about how people really spent their time—and not what they tell their bosses, family and friends.

At the early onset of the outbreak, we learned that there was a lot of alcohol consumption, eating, pot smoking and watching porn, while quarantined.

About a year later, a study showed that people working from home are having sex, taking naps, dating, shopping online and doing side hustles on company time. Around 50% of the respondents to the survey said that they’ve worked for another company, while on the clock with their employer.

Last week, the Wall Street Journal reported on a scintillating new remote-work trend. It appears that “white-collar workers, in industries from tech to banking to insurance, say they have found a way to double their pay.” Their schtick is to “work two full-time remote jobs.” Like Fight Club, the first rule for these folks is “don’t tell anyone” and “don’t do too much work, either.”

The Wall Street Journal checked the workers’ offer letters, employment contracts, pay stubs and corporate emails to see if they were being honest. The dual-jobsters told the paper that they “earn a total of $200,000 to nearly $600,000 a year, including bonuses and stock.”

Unbelievable!!

Not really -there still are hundreds of CDC and NIH lab workers who are paid to work at home during the past 18 months of covid. How can do lab research working from home for 18 months?

They have a sweet retirement plan too.

A nation of paper shufflers.....

Gee, who would have ever thought that letting employees supervise themselves at home was a bad idea.
Think of the trillions of dollars wasted in the past building office buildings.

This doesnt surprise me.
Look at the reports on wasted time on social media/games/shopping.
Many people at a desk really don't have a full days work to do.
Especially customer service/management.

It seems today there are two types of employer.
The ones that are are fat with people,
And the ones that burn folks out.

We have on line training for all kinds of things at work. From safety to processes. How in the hell in this day and age would you not be able to tell what each employee did or didn’t do??? Everything we do has a time stamp and or expiration or non compliance. Sounds like KWFA was one of the remote workers not really working. No way your company didn’t know who did or didn’t complete the training.

Clyde


Just for the record, I have been in person since day one of the plandemic. Haven’t missed a day of work yet.

So, you’re hiring then?

Those papers aren't going to shuffle themselves