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A hundred grand to work from home? Sounds like a damn good job.
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We check in with them weekly and get feedback on how the training was going.
We had about 11 people on a team. At the end of the 6 weeks, 2 of them asked for additional time, which we did. then another 2 weeks.After 10 weeks of this, my guy starts checking on them. Turns out they have done nothing - haven't even touched the training material
its not that we didn't check on them, we had 2 managers meet with them weekly. This was computer based training where they were given assignments each week to complete tasks.
At the end of the training, they give a presentation on the tasks they completed. Normally we do this face to face so we are there daily with them, working next to them.
The weekly meetings obviously weren't rigorous enough to detect people who didn't touch a training manual for 10 weeks. My wife hired a remote worker after Covid hit last year and met with her almost daily. She was an excellent worker and colleague and accomplished much in a short time. (Her husband's job became tenuous due to a corporate restructuring, so she had to leave to make more money elsewhere.) My wife has worked remotely since March of last year and gets much more accomplished with zero wasted time in cars and airplanes.
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so we've been hiring people during the covid nonsense allowing them to work from home.
When we hire people we put them in a self paced training program that will last approximately 6 weeks.
We check in with them weekly and get feedback on how the training was going.
We had about 11 people on a team. At the end of the 6 weeks, 2 of them asked for additional time, which we did. then another 2 weeks.After 10 weeks of this, my guy starts checking on them. Turns out they have done nothing - haven't even touched the training material
I suspect they interviewed for the job, got hired and collected 10 weeks of salary ,which was roughly about $21K before taxes while still working their original job.
Live and learn - from now on when we hire someone in this situation we'll have to have them show progress in a live demo each week as opposed to taking their word for it.
But if any of you don't have a moral compass and want to earn some free money, this is a way to do it That is simply amazing... I honestly have no idea how to respond...
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On the flip side of this, you have large corporations whose tech support departments take 2 weeks to fix problems their new $50/hr programmers have accessing their work resources. It's like groundhog day, every day you bug them about it and all you get is "we'll call you back".
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I'll give you a call in a couple of years when I retire. I can work from home.
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On the flip side of this, you have large corporations whose tech support departments take 2 weeks to fix problems their new $50/hr programmers have accessing their work resources. It's like groundhog day, every day you bug them about it and all you get is "we'll call you back". Oh, so true. Multiply that for gov workers.
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so we've been hiring people during the covid nonsense allowing them to work from home.
When we hire people we put them in a self paced training program that will last approximately 6 weeks.
We check in with them weekly and get feedback on how the training was going.
We had about 11 people on a team. At the end of the 6 weeks, 2 of them asked for additional time, which we did. then another 2 weeks.After 10 weeks of this, my guy starts checking on them. Turns out they have done nothing - haven't even touched the training material
I suspect they interviewed for the job, got hired and collected 10 weeks of salary ,which was roughly about $21K before taxes while still working their original job.
Live and learn - from now on when we hire someone in this situation we'll have to have them show progress in a live demo each week as opposed to taking their word for it.
But if any of you don't have a moral compass and want to earn some free money, this is a way to do it I was wondering, are these hardware or software jobs? Must be software?
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Having owned and operated several companies over the last 35+ years, I would not expect ANY of my short term employees to be magically self-motivated, especially new hires with zero track record.
I believe your expectations and trust went a smidgen too high. Hopefully a lesson learned.
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Goody, more corporate ineptness passed onto the customer.
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What was the job they were hired to do? 6-10 weeks unsupervised online tutorial/training... easy $$.
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we've done this before without issue, multiple times so we were caught off guard. In addition to the 2 weekly meetings, technical and manager, they also had to fill out a progress checklist showing which modules they completed.
so yea, they were more or less on the honor system as to their progress but up until now, every employee we hired had a long term goal with the company and it was in their best interest to let us know if they were having problems and we'd address it.
So I just finished a meeting where I have to assign a headcount to monitor their progress which means I have to pull him off other projects which puts me behind on my FY22 goals.
Its a software position we are talking about. We just weren't prepared to be scammed by someone who going to go thru all the effort - screening, drug testing,etc to collect a check. I guess it was worth it, They got 10 weeks of salary for about 5 hours of work and sitting in on 2 meetings a week lying about what they did.
The job they were hired to do was to go configure the software for customers on a project team after they completed the training.
I recognize we have alot of experts here that know how to run a technical training program on the cloud during a pandemic. My mistake was not consulting the campfire before hand.
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What sort of software position? Totally remote, or need to be in Ohio? 'rona juice jab required? Know a young man that just got out of military and is looking for a tech job.
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What sort of software position? Totally remote, or need to be in Ohio? 'rona juice jab required? Know a young man that just got out of military and is looking for a tech job. We have a 20 week training program starting in June for new hire college grads or we do hire alot of military. Starting pay is around $75K with a quarterly bonus. I don't have anyone local in Ohio in the program, its all over the United States. Jab isn't required, exemption (that is essentially rubber stamped ) is.
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The job they were hired to do was to go configure the software for customers on a project team after they completed the training.
I could see where that would need training from the start. If they were truly working two jobs I'm sure what gave hem the confidence to pull this off was the fact that they had the other position and neither company knew the other employment existed. Usually because of intellectual property and confidentiality agreements there are issues with dual employment for anyone.
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The job they were hired to do was to go configure the software for customers on a project team after they completed the training.
I could see where that would need training from the start. If they were truly working two jobs I'm sure what gave hem the confidence to pull this off was the fact that they had the other position and neither company knew the other employment existed. Usually because of intellectual property and confidentiality agreements there are issues with dual employment for anyone. yea, we were about to ship them a customer laptop, luckily we stopped it. That would have been a disaster
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The new trend is working two remote jobs at the same time. Sounds like with this gig, a guy could make it three? https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackke...-both-companies-knowing/?sh=2e8847217f30Are you curious about what other people have been doing while working from home during the pandemic? It's always interesting to find out about how people really spent their time—and not what they tell their bosses, family and friends. At the early onset of the outbreak, we learned that there was a lot of alcohol consumption, eating, pot smoking and watching porn, while quarantined. About a year later, a study showed that people working from home are having sex, taking naps, dating, shopping online and doing side hustles on company time. Around 50% of the respondents to the survey said that they’ve worked for another company, while on the clock with their employer. Last week, the Wall Street Journal reported on a scintillating new remote-work trend. It appears that “white-collar workers, in industries from tech to banking to insurance, say they have found a way to double their pay.” Their schtick is to “work two full-time remote jobs.” Like Fight Club, the first rule for these folks is “don’t tell anyone” and “don’t do too much work, either.” The Wall Street Journal checked the workers’ offer letters, employment contracts, pay stubs and corporate emails to see if they were being honest. The dual-jobsters told the paper that they “earn a total of $200,000 to nearly $600,000 a year, including bonuses and stock.”
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The new trend is working two remote jobs at the same time. Sounds like with this gig, a guy could make it three? https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackke...-both-companies-knowing/?sh=2e8847217f30Are you curious about what other people have been doing while working from home during the pandemic? It's always interesting to find out about how people really spent their time—and not what they tell their bosses, family and friends. At the early onset of the outbreak, we learned that there was a lot of alcohol consumption, eating, pot smoking and watching porn, while quarantined. About a year later, a study showed that people working from home are having sex, taking naps, dating, shopping online and doing side hustles on company time. Around 50% of the respondents to the survey said that they’ve worked for another company, while on the clock with their employer. Last week, the Wall Street Journal reported on a scintillating new remote-work trend. It appears that “white-collar workers, in industries from tech to banking to insurance, say they have found a way to double their pay.” Their schtick is to “work two full-time remote jobs.” Like Fight Club, the first rule for these folks is “don’t tell anyone” and “don’t do too much work, either.” The Wall Street Journal checked the workers’ offer letters, employment contracts, pay stubs and corporate emails to see if they were being honest. The dual-jobsters told the paper that they “earn a total of $200,000 to nearly $600,000 a year, including bonuses and stock.” Unbelievable!!
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Not really -there still are hundreds of CDC and NIH lab workers who are paid to work at home during the past 18 months of covid. How can do lab research working from home for 18 months?
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Not really -there still are hundreds of CDC and NIH lab workers who are paid to work at home during the past 18 months of covid. How can do lab research working from home for 18 months? They have a sweet retirement plan too.
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