It looks like things are heating up over there. The whole world knows Biden is a pussy so these dictators are going to take advantage. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese moved on Taiwan at the same time the Russians hit the ukraine and of course that fat little North Korean is conducting missile tests again.
It's going to be interesting.
Putin wants to rebuild the old USSR. Biden and Europe don't really care. I am thinking Putin will go for the whole enchilada now
I don't really care about the Ukraine, as they're just as corrupt as Russia. What that would do though, is give Russia a land border with Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania. That would make it easier to start trouble with them.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we? There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we? There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.
This. Time we stopped providing security for Europe - they can start spending some of their own money and blood to do it. Likely those socialist democracies (sic) don't flourish so long once they have to do their own heavy lifting either.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we? There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.
I can agree with you, it's just how our current worthless admin is handling it. Putin and xi wouldn't blatantly be doing what they are if Trump was still in office.
I also believe that when Russia does invade, it will be much bigger than just Ukraine falling. Their are ways to stop this without Americans stepping foot over there.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we? There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.
This. Time we stopped providing security for Europe - they can start spending some of their own money and blood to do it. Likely those socialist democracies (sic) don't flourish so long once they have to do their own heavy lifting either.
+1 If they can't handle Russia by themselves, which is a shadow of the former USSR/Warsaw Pact, then they deserve whatever they get.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we? There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.
I disagree. I can think of a lot of Biden voters.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we? There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.
This. Time we stopped providing security for Europe - they can start spending some of their own money and blood to do it. Likely those socialist democracies (sic) don't flourish so long once they have to do their own heavy lifting either.
+1 If they can't handle Russia by themselves, which is a shadow of the former USSR/Warsaw Pact, then they deserve whatever they get.
+2
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we? There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.
to feed the military industrial complex. they're getting a little hungry since we pulled out of the schit hole.
Putin wants to rebuild the old USSR. Biden and Europe don't really care. I am thinking Putin will go for the whole enchilada now
Not so much. He wants to hold what he's got and not have NATO on his doorstep.
Heck, I would like the historic American nation to have held what it had and not have NATO on _its_ doorstep.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we?
There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.Truth.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we? There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.
This. Time we stopped providing security for Europe - they can start spending some of their own money and blood to do it. Likely those socialist democracies (sic) don't flourish so long once they have to do their own heavy lifting either.
I seem to remember a similar situation playing out from 1939 until 1945…. except then it was Nazi Germany and Japan…. it won’t end with the annexation of Ukraine and Taiwan… some people never learn.
I’m surprised Russia and China have not already made their move. The whole world knows with out a doubt that Biden and his team are totally incompetent and impotent.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Why should we? There isn't a single American life worth the Ukraine.
This. Time we stopped providing security for Europe - they can start spending some of their own money and blood to do it. Likely those socialist democracies (sic) don't flourish so long once they have to do their own heavy lifting either.
I seem to remember a similar situation playing out from 1939 until 1945…. except then it was Nazi Germany and Japan…. it won’t end with the annexation of Ukraine and Taiwan… some people never learn.
False equivalency
China doesn’t only want Taiwan…for starters, the entire South China sea….are you aware of Chinas building islands?
https://amti.csis.org/island-tracker/china/ Try finding Tibet on a world map… most current world maps are showing Tibet as “China”….
Russians are doing the same land grab schitt….don’t believe everything you DON’T HEAR….
Don't worry we have joe & the hoe
Yep
As soon as the ground freezes to support tanks
The question is, "Will America's neocon warmongers use the situation in Ukraine to kick off WW3?"
Hitler's motive was lebensraum for the Aryan race. In order to achieve this required the conquest of territory.
Putin's motive is a paranoia a being attacked from the West, which has became ingrained in the Russian psyche as a tesult of both World Wars. In order to prevent this Putin (like Stalin) wants a buffer from the West. Putin is more Stalin than Hitler.
As far as the mitary industrial complex is concerned, Washington and Eisenhower were correct.
Putin's motive is a paranoia a being attacked from the West,
It's not paranoia if it's true.
Putin's motive is a paranoia a being attacked from the West,
It's not paranoia if it's true.
Quite correct
Who gives a phuuck. We can't manage our own problems. Let the Russians do whatever they want in Ukraine...hell are most those folks Russians anyway?
We need to sell off our territories and buy kamchatka from Russia. Would be some sweet hunting and fishing...
It used to be theirs. Why did anyone believe that Russia wouldn't regroup some day and start claiming its Soviet Union territories again?
It used to be theirs. Why did anyone believe that Russia wouldn't regroup some day and start claiming its Soviet Union territories again?
This is along the lines of how I view the situation. Ukraine lies within Russia's sphere of influence, not ours.
Remember when there was talk about Ukraine joining NATO? This is a consequence.
I’m surprised Russia and China have not already made their move. The whole world knows with out a doubt that Biden and his team are totally incompetent and impotent.
The problem isn't Washington, it's most of western Europe. If they were doing what they should be capable of, Russia would mind its own business because it would be far weaker than them.
It used to be theirs. Why did anyone believe that Russia wouldn't regroup some day and start claiming its Soviet Union territories again?
This is along the lines of how I view the situation. Ukraine lies within Russia's sphere of influence, not ours.
Remember when there was talk about Ukraine joining NATO? This is a consequence.
I just read a book by a retired British general (War, Peace and Whitehall) where he opined that other than the Baltic states (Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania) that we never should have tried to entice any of the former Soviet states such as Georgia and Ukraine to join NATO. It just rattled the Russians and made them more paranoid than they already naturally are.
I’m surprised Russia and China have not already made their move. The whole world knows with out a doubt that Biden and his team are totally incompetent and impotent.
The problem isn't Washington, it's most of western Europe. If they were doing what they should be capable of, Russia would mind its own business because it would be far weaker than them.
The problem is Washington,..both in America and the rest of the world.
Of course they will. Biden in office is their best time to grab what they want.
If D.C. is fuggin' with Russia half as much as it's fuggin' with America, I can understand why Russia has had enough of it.
It is our problem unfortunately. For many decades we used to be the #1 in diplomacy and superpower. Countries depended on us and went laxed.
Now we got the [bleep] in briefs in charge. To little to late for the European countries.
It used to be theirs. Why did anyone believe that Russia wouldn't regroup some day and start claiming its Soviet Union territories again?
Just wait until they start demanding to get Alaska back.
Don't worry we have joe & the hoe
Oh...does that mean f
uck "em and forget about it?
We broke our promise to Gorbachev not to expand NATO into the former Warsaw Pact. The Russians have every right and reason to distrust the USA and NATO. From the perspective of the Russians we are relentlessly encroaching on their traditional greater Russian sphere of influence. If the shoe was on the other foot we’d be gearing up for war to defend our interests.
It is our problem unfortunately. For many decades we used to be the #1 in diplomacy and superpower. Countries depended on us and went laxed.
Now we got the [bleep] in briefs in charge. To little to late for the European countries.
The EU gets most of their natural gas from Russia so all Putin has to do is threaten to turn off the tap if they interfere. It would be a cold Europe this winter. I'm of Ukrainian descent and I don't even give a fuqk about them. They're just as corrupt as Russia, they just aren't Russia. Their leaders have stolen so much from the treasury that they can't afford the means to defend themselves. Besides, they're in a part of the world that's hard to get forces to, even if we wanted. Check out a map.
We broke our promise to Gorbachev not to expand NATO into the former Warsaw Pact. The Russians have every right and reason to distrust the USA and NATO. From the perspective of the Russians we are relentlessly encroaching on their traditional greater Russian sphere of influence. If the shoe was on the other foot we’d be gearing up for war to defend our interests.
Exactly.
Fug all them. It's time to go back to the Monroe doctrine. Let China,and Russia fight over the eastern hemisphere, We will take the western hemisphere.
Putin just wants America's Bolshevik Revolution to stay out of Russia.
Russia has already had theirs.
Putin just wants America's Bolshevik Revolution to stay out of Russia.
Russia has already had theirs.
Probably pretty close to the mark.
If Russia gets away with going into Ukraine it will be interesting to see what China does.
If Russia gets away with going into Ukraine it will be interesting to see what China does.
So what do you recommend?
If Russia gets away with going into Ukraine it will be interesting to see what China does.
The difference is that Taiwan and Japan will fight back. That would bring us in. I don't mind us helping others fight but I don't want us to do others' fighting for them.
If Russia gets away with going into Ukraine it will be interesting to see what China does.
So what do you recommend?
I don't recommend anything. I just said it will be interesting.
If Russia gets away with going into Ukraine it will be interesting to see what China does.
The difference is that Taiwan and Japan will fight back. That would bring us in. I don't mind us helping others fight but I don't want us to do others' fighting for them.
We would be talking WWIII.
Taiwan will last about a week. Its inevitable.
If Russia gets away with going into Ukraine it will be interesting to see what China does.
The difference is that Taiwan and Japan will fight back. That would bring us in. I don't mind us helping others fight but I don't want us to do others' fighting for them.
We would be talking WWIII.
Do you think that China will stop with Taiwan? All I know is that within 20-25 years, the world is going to be an entirely different place. I'll be in my 80s if I last that long and I don't have any children, so I don't really care or worry about it.
If Russia gets away with going into Ukraine it will be interesting to see what China does.
The difference is that Taiwan and Japan will fight back. That would bring us in. I don't mind us helping others fight but I don't want us to do others' fighting for them.
We would be talking WWIII.
Do you think that China will stop with Taiwan?
Nope. That's why it will be WWIII.
It's been debated that the USA fought on the wrong side in WW2, well... with regards to Japan.
That must be why the Democrats are letting those 100s of thousands of Mexicans and Haitians walk across the border into America.
First,..they're going to dress them up like women, then they're going to have them invade Russia and China. The man up front will be wearing a surgical mask and waving a rainbow flag.
,...it all makes sense now.
I dont know. The NWO cabal, Zero and Hillary want nuclear war with Putin as they did with Little Kim.
The object is population reduction and economic destruction reducing us to a third world country.
Thats why Hilry promised to shoot Putins jets over Syria down.
When the economy is destroyed and people are starving, they will accept the NWO planned economic reset.
So one may ask, why would Putin want Russia involved in mutual destruction? How does one know if the current administration would assure mutual destruction? How does one know Biteme wouldnt just run the white flag up?
Biden has been bought and paid for. The tyrants of the world will make their moves soon. I feel a bit bad for Ukraine because we promised we would protect them if they disarmed but they should have known you can't trust the USA because it's only a matter of time before the left is in power here and will renig on any deal.
The rest of those leftist pussies in Europe have been parasites sucking our teets for defense for long enough. Maybe instead of spending all their money on bringing in immigrants to make their countries less European they can start contributing to their own defense. If the whole of Europe can't stand up to Russia they need to rethink their priorities.
Bb
Putin's motive is a paranoia a being attacked from the West,
It's not paranoia if it's true.
Quite correct
And how many times has a western country attacked Russia since WW2???
China has already taken over much of Africa and they are probably eyeing up that big iron ore deposit called Australia too. They are already controlling a lot of the world buy buying off politicians.
Bb
If Russia gets away with going into Ukraine it will be interesting to see what China does.
The difference is that Taiwan and Japan will fight back. That would bring us in. I don't mind us helping others fight but I don't want us to do others' fighting for them.
We would be talking WWIII.
Do you think that China will stop with Taiwan?
Nope. That's why it will be WWIII.
Clue: We are already in WW3. Its atypical digital warfare. The CCP has taken over Big Pharma, Congress, the SC, Gen Milley, the SEC, many Governors, Federal Elections and the WH.
Devolution is in effect to remove the enemy agent of the CCP in the WH.
PS. Sorry the MSM didnt tell you. Trumps Truth Social will soon tell you the same.
Ukraine and Central Asian former Soviet Republics can NOT be allowed to join NATO. It will take 5 minutes or less for missiles from Ukraine to hit major cities in European Russia. There will be no war because Americans already stated that if Russia moves against Ukraine there will be substantial sanctions against the Russian Federation. If China were to move against Taiwan it is possible Russians would move against Ukrainians. Americans can afford to leave former Eastern European countries under sphere of Russian influence. What Americans can not afford is for China to expand in Asian. Loos of Taiwan will mean loss of Japan, South Korea and possibly Australia. As I said previously Americans are too weak to focus on anything else beside Mainland China. This is most formidable enemy Americans have faced since the British in the War of Independence. This is the reason for sudden exit from Afghanistan attempt to improve relations with Iran and handing over more and more control of Europe to the Germans.
Putin's motive is a paranoia a being attacked from the West,
It's not paranoia if it's true.
Quite correct
And how many times has a western country attacked Russia since WW2???
6?
And 50% of DNC dimocommies who love Biteme consider the CCP as our friends.
Members of EU will never move against Russia militarily. The most powerful member of EU wants to do business with Russia at expense to the United States. The only member of NATO beside United States close to Russia with powerful and competent military is Turkey. They will not fight the Russians.
We wouldn't have put up with the Warsaw Pact expanding and approaching our borders. Likewise, Putin shouldn't have to accept NATO expanding and approaching Russia's borders. NATO should have fallen with the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union.
We wouldn't have put up with the Warsaw Pact expanding and approaching our borders. Likewise, Putin shouldn't have to accept NATO expanding and approaching Russia's borders. NATO should have fallen with the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union.
Exactly !
Putin's motive is a paranoia a being attacked from the West,
It's not paranoia if it's true.
Quite correct
And how many times has a western country attacked Russia since WW2???
Irrelevant to the Russian mindset.
How many times has the United States enforced the Monroe Doctrine since 1823?
If China were to legally purchase the Panama Canal Zone we wouldn't react?
I seem to remember a similar situation playing out from 1939 until 1945…. except then it was Nazi Germany and Japan…. it won’t end with the annexation of Ukraine and Taiwan… some people never learn.
Another mess we ought to have stayed out of. And would have, but for the meddling of FDR and those called out by Chas. Lindbergh.
China doesn’t only want Taiwan…for starters, the entire South China sea….are you aware of Chinas building islands?
https://amti.csis.org/island-tracker/china/ Try finding Tibet on a world map… most current world maps are showing Tibet as “China”….
Russians are doing the same land grab schitt….don’t believe everything you DON’T HEAR….
Stop mainlining the MSM into your brain. If you must, send your own spawn overseas to fight against Current_Enemy. Leave the rest of us out of your crusades.
The question is, "Will America's neocon warmongers use the situation in Ukraine to kick off WW3?"
Somebody has his thinking cap on.
I’m surprised Russia and China have not already made their move. The whole world knows with out a doubt that Biden and his team are totally incompetent and impotent.
The problem isn't Washington, it's most of western Europe. If they were doing what they should be capable of, Russia would mind its own business because it would be far weaker than them.
The problem is Washington,..both in America and the rest of the world.
This. I want a strong American nation, not a multi-ethnic polyglot Empire run for the benefit of the ruling class.
It's been debated that the USA fought on the wrong side in WW2, well... with regards to Japan.
"We have defeated the wrong enemy."
----Gen Patton
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What is most hilarious about the Russia/China /(& Iran) situation is that the American Empire has within its power to neuter all those threats without threatening anyone militarily.
1. Russia
Russia does OK, given 70 years of misrule by bolsheviks, but would not have the money to buy new military hardware if the market price of oil & natural gas is kept low. Sale of oil & gas to others in eurasia is how th egov't keeps itself afloat. Without the petrobucks, Russian influence withers and dies. But if we keep oil & gas prices low, Empire America's ruling class's investments and incomes might take a hit. So instead of losing a little cash in exchange for peace around Russia, our ruling class would rather get American boys & girls killed in BFU (Bum F*** Ukraine).
2. Iran
See Russia. BFMENA
3. China.
China becomes a non-threat the day we no longer allow trade from the PRC. They, too, depend on trade to keep afloat.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Bottom line. It's on the other side of the planet, none of our business. Same for Syria, Europe, et al. Bring Our Troops HOME and put them on the border with Mexico and tell them to start burning up ammo.
Sure, what's to really stop them? The PUSSY in the WH sure as hell is not going to stop them.
Or even likely make them pay any real penalty either.
Putin could bitch slap Biden & all that phony tough ass MF'er would or could do is stand there & bleed.
MM
And 50% of DNC dimocommies who love Biteme consider the CCP as our friends.
You're one of them. Look at all the posts in these forums...
I Hate the Russians, they're our enemy----but can I pretty please keep getting steel case 7.62x39 and support them?
I Hate the Chinese, they're our enemy---but can I pretty please keep getting their cheap, copied optics and support them?
I Hate the Muslims, they're our enemy---but can I pretty please keep getting cheap Turkish firearms and support them?
If D.C. is fuggin' with Russia half as much as it's fuggin' with America, I can understand why Russia has had enough of it.
Exactly.
NATO has long outlived it’s usefulness and be some a force for the very instability it was created to end.
US has nothing to stop them. This admin is so chicken [bleep] and won't lift a finger.
China and Russia are laughing their asses off with Biden being the resident at the white house
Bottom line. It's on the other side of the planet, none of our business. Same for Syria, Europe, et al. Bring Our Troops HOME and put them on the border with Mexico and tell them to start burning up ammo.
Never happen. It would be nice but this chicken [bleep] admin only cares about other countries borders.
I wish they would take care of our invasion vs Ukraine but never happen
If Western Europe and the U.S. are all that’s keeping Putin from invading the Ukraine, I’ve no idea why he’d not keep going until folks start speaking Portuguese.
I guess Poland, Romania, the Baltic states, etc. could ally against the Russians, but I’m not sure if they hate Putin or depend on him to keep them from being overran by the E.U.
It is interesting, that no matter who’s in charge (Putin, Bolshiveks, Czars, whoever…), or what year it is, you can always depend on the Russians to be Russians.
I guess Poland, Romania, the Baltic states, etc. could ally against the Russians, but I’m not sure if they hate Putin or depend on him to keep them from being overran by the E.U.
Those are all EU countries. They joined by choice.
Ah. Wasn’t sure.
I knew there was some friction as not all of the Eastern Europeans were falling in lockstep with the whole Muslim immigration/invasion thing.
It looks like the CIA is stirring the pot in Kazakhstan to give the Russians more trouble than they can handle to keep the Russians from invading the Ukraine. If the Russians decide to take the Ukraine there’s nothing NATO can do about it during the winter. Europe gets their natural gas mostly from Russia. Russians it the gas and Europeans freeze to death.
The only action that Biden would take is demand more money.
no offence but I think the US needs to let ukraine go. You dont have exactly the best track record in solving countries problems since ww2. Most your wars since then have left the host country in much worse shape, either split, divided, or you guys escaping at the last minute whilst handing bad guys free arms. And it was weak 3rd world opponents in each case. Kazakstan is actually in much worse shape than Ukraine anyway , and Russia is already mobilising troops to settle it, but it only rates a 3 on importance for US intervention where 10 is OIL( lol), 9 is strategic importance and 1 is doing it just to save the day.
158XTP,
I agree that we should stay out of Ukraine. Even if we did jump in and stop Russia we have already spent trillions on nation building and most of it has been a waste of money. As others have said here the U.S should worry about the invasion on our southern border and stop worrying about borders on the other side of the world.
The only action that Biden would take is demand more money.
All they ever did was vacume money out of Ukraine.
The only action that Biden would take is demand more money.
All they ever did was vacume money out of Ukraine.
And Americans.... atleast those still working
Certain Victoria Neuland who was special envoy under Barak H. Obama during Congress hearing stated it cost 5 or 6 billion dollars to bring desired changes in Ukraine (it was called Orange Revolution commonly known as Mjadan). I see no reason why some Americans should not make money by doing business in Ukraine.
Nothing wrong with doing business in ukraine. We should just stay out of the war.
The only thing Biden would do is ask Putin for $$$ and pretend to be upset.