Trump Is In Deep, Deep, Deep, Deep Trouble by John Podhoretz
The testimony this afternoon of Cassidy Hutchinson, the aide to Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, cannot be dismissed. If what she has testified to, sworn under oath, is not countered or contradicted by Meadows or Trump’s White House counsel Pat Cippolone—either under oath themselves or eventually before a grand jury—then there is a credible criminal case that Trump violated the law in ways not dealt with by the second impeachment, and from which he would not be shielded by executive privilege. It’s possible her memory is faulty, or that she is a fantasist and that none of this happened. But she has reported directly on things that went on inside the White House and around the Oval Office on January 5 and January 6 that go beyond the merely circumstantial.
The case the January 6 committee is building in a far more painstaking manner than anyone could have expected is that Trump knowingly encouraged the formation of and participated in the forward deployment of a crowd he knew was armed. He was told so on January 6. We also know now that Trump had told Meadows to make contact on January 5 with Roger Stone and Michael Flynn, both of whom were communicating with the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers—some of whose leaders have been charged with seditious conspiracy. We also know that Meadows told Hutchinson he was going to go to the suite personally but she either changed his mind or he did and he called instead. What was said on the call we do not yet know.
Hutchinson testified that Trump was told by the Secret Service they were making the crowd at the rally on January 6 go through magnetometers because they were armed. Trump was angered by this, something she knew because she was “in the vicinity of a conversation where I overheard the president say something to the effect of, ‘You know, I don’t f-ing care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the f-ing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in. Take the f-ing mags away.’”
He also wanted to drive to the Capitol in the lead and physically tussled with the Secret Service in his SUV when they weren’t going to do so because they could not guarantee his safety. She testified that Cippolone told her if Trump marched to the Capitol, “We’re going to get charged with every crime imaginable.” And she reported Meadows saying of the chant to hang Vice President Mike Pence that Trump “doesn’t want to do anything,” and that “he thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong.”
You’re going to hear people call this “hearsay.” It is not hearsay. It is direct testimony of contemporaneous things said in Hutchinson’s earshot about events that were taking place while she was listening.
And here’s the rub for Trump. He has so far been protected by Meadows and Cippolone because they have refused to testify to the committee under claims of executive privilege—that Congress does not have the power to force them to speak about their direct conversations with the president or the actions they may have taken under his direct authority because the executive branch is not subordinate to the legislative branch. But they can testify if they choose. If they do not, they will, in essence, be allowing Hutchinson’s testimony to stand. If they do, and they do not say everything she said was a lie, her testimony will stand and be bolstered by them. And if they testify and say their recollections of the days were different, they will have to report in what way they were different—and will not be able to refuse to answer questions they find uncomfortable.
But if they do remain silent and Hutchinson’s testimony is not somehow rebutted, they can be made to testify if Attorney General Merrick Garland convenes a grand jury on the basis of the revelations of the January 6 committee and subpoenas them. Failure to testify under those conditions will lead to prison time.
I did not think this day would come. I have said as much on our podcast many times. But as a result of the bombshells today, there’s no question now that Donald Trump is staring down the barrel of an indictment for seditious conspiracy against the government of the United States.
And I haven’t even gotten to the possible witness tampering!
Cassidy Hutchinsons testimony has already been discredited. Pushing commie propaganda is low, even for a commie snake like you. Secondhand lies ... maybe she will testify Kavinah raped her next . Scum, pure and simple.
"Secret Service says January 6 Committee didn't reach out before Hutchinson testimony on Trump lunging at agent"
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Her lies have already been discredited by witnesses to the events.
Talk is just Talk Now if President Trump would have said yuall take your guns and kick down the Capital doors and storm that place to show them who is in control.
That would be an entirely different situation.
Guns or no guns. President Trump told the people to Respect the Capital and go in peace. That is if I remember his speech correctly but that was his intent. Go in Peace and the Capital Police opened the doors and ushered them in with no hesitation.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Her lies have already been discredited by witnesses to the events.
If true, great, but I've not read that and the article suggests otherwise. Do you have a source?
You’re going to hear people call this “hearsay.” It is not hearsay. It is direct testimony of contemporaneous things said in Hutchinson’s earshot about events that were taking place while she was listening.
Bullschit. He has a very poor understanding of hearsay or is flat out lying.
Hearsay is defined as, “An out of court statement offered for the truth of the matter asserted.”
Notice, that not once did she say that she heard Trump say anything. She always said that she was told he said this or that or that she heard these people say these things about Trump or about things Trump said.
So, are these out of court statements? Yes, obviously. Can they be used to prove that Trump said them or acted in accordance with them? No, they cannot be offered to prove that Trump said them as that such an attempt would clearly be for the truth of the matter asserted. Do they fit a hearsay exception? Not that I can see.
I guess technically the author is right if her testimony was being offered to prove that these agents had said these things. It could also be admitted to prove their state of mind. However, it could never be offered to prove that Trump said them.
It’s not even hearsay. It’s hearsay upon hearsay since it is allegedly someone reporting out of court what someone else allegedly said out of court.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Her lies have already been discredited by witnesses to the events.
If true, great, but I've not read that and the article suggests otherwise. Do you have a source?
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
They don’t need to waive anything. Simply subpoena the SS agents. If they don’t do that, you know the committee knows she is lying.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Her lies have already been discredited by witnesses to the events.
If true, great, but I've not read that and the article suggests otherwise. Do you have a source?
That would be a good start. They also need to rebut her claim that Trump said he knew they were armed but wanted the metal detectors taken down nonetheless. Potentially, that is very damning. This is where I come back to my basic complaint about DJT: stupid, egomaniacal mother effer. JFC! There is a lot more at stake (MAGA) than his damned ego needs.
That would be a good start. They also need to rebut her claim that Trump said he knew they were armed but wanted the metal detectors taken down nonetheless. Potentially, that is very damning. This is where I come back to my basic complaint about DJT: stupid, egomaniacal mother effer. JFC! There is a lot more at stake (MAGA) than his damned ego needs.
Having been caught in a major lie discredits all of her testimony.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Over the past 6 years, how many of the damning accusations against Trump have proven to be lies or fabrications??? How many were true? The general public isn’t buying the BS anymore….
Put Pelosi on a lie detector and ask her if she has any knowledge about any “witnesses” being coached… If it turns out this aide is lying, do you think they’d drag her out of an airplane in leg shackles??? Would the FBI raid her house in the middle of the night to arrest her??? Would all of her electronic communication devices be seized??
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
STFU never Trumper. Give us a list of all the arms they seized during this "insurrection". Waiting
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Hahaha Hahaha.. Nothing Tops Impeaching a President that’s not the President.. They going to Impeach Trump Again .. That was Political.. Your Talking What .. Felony.. What.. Boat Sailed .. Altho I’d bet Wray Wray would love some Payback for Trump mak’n him the FBI Director.. I’d bet naked pictures of You and Your Boyfriends Wray Wray would like to see Trump in his Gucci at 4am with his SWAT Team under the Moonlight.. You know Mordor on the Potomac has a Thing about Rousting 70 year old men in the Dead of Night .. As Sham Hannity always say It ain’t the Rank and File.. With Special Guest: “ You ain’t seen Nothing Yet “
The testimony of one lying c*unt is not enough to bring an indictment. Trump has real good lawyers and the Dems know they need better evidence to bring charges.
This bs looks great to the pathetic dems, as they watch this clown show on ABC and CNN.
If they talk about this they don't have to talk about what a spectacular clusterf**uck Biden is.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
If you believe anything the left puts out about Trump at this point, you’re delusional.
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Over the past 6 years, how many of the damning accusations against Trump have proven to be lies or fabrications??? How many were true?
The secret service agent in question has already stated,emphatically,that this woman's testimony was false.
He has not testified under oath and only refutes a portion of her testimony. Meadows and Cippione need to step to the plate instead of hiding behind executive privilege.
For the most part, she isn’t even testifying on things she heard. She is testifying on things she claims she was told by other people who allegedly heard Trump say them.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
What facts did she describe? Everything she said is hearsay which isn't worth a damn!
I don’t think Trump or his people need to say anything to anybody. If they think they can convict him, they should charge him with something and let’s see how that goes down with the rest of the country.
"A source close to the Secret Service told NBC News after the hearing that both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Trump never lunged for the steering wheel."
C'mon fellas. Do most of you just talk to make noise. I see NOTHING here to gat all worked up about. Trump is not your average idiot. He will take care of himself while just energizing his followers. Trump is a movement and the left knows it. Trump 2024.
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Her testimony, at least the damning things was largely hearsay which isn't admissible in a court of law. It'll take corroborating testimony from others under oath to spell trouble for Trump, that's where this stands at the moment.
Who is cross examining these folks or are they just making statements?
None of that is permitted. Only the case presented, without challenge, by his political enemies is permitted in this hearing.
Which raises the question whether it was a grave mistake for McCarthy not to participate. Trump thinks it was. I dunno. On the one hand, you lend legitimacy; on the other hand their evidence comes in uncontested.
Trump Is In Deep, Deep, Deep, Deep Trouble by John Podhoretz
The testimony this afternoon of Cassidy Hutchinson, the aide to Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, cannot be dismissed. If what she has testified to, sworn under oath, is not countered or contradicted by Meadows or Trump’s White House counsel Pat Cippolone—either under oath themselves or eventually before a grand jury—then there is a credible criminal case that Trump violated the law in ways not dealt with by the second impeachment, and from which he would not be shielded by executive privilege. It’s possible her memory is faulty, or that she is a fantasist and that none of this happened. But she has reported directly on things that went on inside the White House and around the Oval Office on January 5 and January 6 that go beyond the merely circumstantial.
The case the January 6 committee is building in a far more painstaking manner than anyone could have expected is that Trump knowingly encouraged the formation of and participated in the forward deployment of a crowd he knew was armed. He was told so on January 6. We also know now that Trump had told Meadows to make contact on January 5 with Roger Stone and Michael Flynn, both of whom were communicating with the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers—some of whose leaders have been charged with seditious conspiracy. We also know that Meadows told Hutchinson he was going to go to the suite personally but she either changed his mind or he did and he called instead. What was said on the call we do not yet know.
Hutchinson testified that Trump was told by the Secret Service they were making the crowd at the rally on January 6 go through magnetometers because they were armed. Trump was angered by this, something she knew because she was “in the vicinity of a conversation where I overheard the president say something to the effect of, ‘You know, I don’t f-ing care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the f-ing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in. Take the f-ing mags away.’”
He also wanted to drive to the Capitol in the lead and physically tussled with the Secret Service in his SUV when they weren’t going to do so because they could not guarantee his safety. She testified that Cippolone told her if Trump marched to the Capitol, “We’re going to get charged with every crime imaginable.” And she reported Meadows saying of the chant to hang Vice President Mike Pence that Trump “doesn’t want to do anything,” and that “he thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong.”
You’re going to hear people call this “hearsay.” It is not hearsay. It is direct testimony of contemporaneous things said in Hutchinson’s earshot about events that were taking place while she was listening.
And here’s the rub for Trump. He has so far been protected by Meadows and Cippolone because they have refused to testify to the committee under claims of executive privilege—that Congress does not have the power to force them to speak about their direct conversations with the president or the actions they may have taken under his direct authority because the executive branch is not subordinate to the legislative branch. But they can testify if they choose. If they do not, they will, in essence, be allowing Hutchinson’s testimony to stand. If they do, and they do not say everything she said was a lie, her testimony will stand and be bolstered by them. And if they testify and say their recollections of the days were different, they will have to report in what way they were different—and will not be able to refuse to answer questions they find uncomfortable.
But if they do remain silent and Hutchinson’s testimony is not somehow rebutted, they can be made to testify if Attorney General Merrick Garland convenes a grand jury on the basis of the revelations of the January 6 committee and subpoenas them. Failure to testify under those conditions will lead to prison time.
I did not think this day would come. I have said as much on our podcast many times. But as a result of the bombshells today, there’s no question now that Donald Trump is staring down the barrel of an indictment for seditious conspiracy against the government of the United States.
And I haven’t even gotten to the possible witness tampering!
Who is cross examining these folks or are they just making statements?
It’s just another dog & pony show directed by Pelosi… it has nothing to do with the how and why Jan 6 happened… it’s why certain lines of questioning won’t be allowed and why SHE is the one who appointed the Republicans (never trumpers) who would be ALLOWED on the committee (first time in history that has happened)
As a side note, I wish that bitch would hire someone who could paint her eyebrows in a somewhat normal contour… fuggin bizarre Wicked Witch of the west schitt…
Who is cross examining these folks or are they just making statements?
It’s just another dog & pony show directed by Pelosi… it has nothing to do with the how and why Jan 6 happened… it’s why certain lines of questioning won’t be allowed and why SHE is the one who appointed the Republicans (never trumpers) who would be ALLOWED on the committee (first time in history that has happened)
As a side note, I wish that bitch would hire someone who could paint her eyebrows in a somewhat normal contour… fuggin bizarre Wicked Witch of the west schitt…
Yep. Nothing but a Fuqking Propaganda Show put on by the Commie DemoRat’s and propagated by The Commie Socialist Fake News Media to discredit Trump and distract from Hiden Biden’s destruction of America’s economy. And just goes to show how fuggin scared they are of President Trump. And how afraid they are that he will run again in 2024. And Win.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Dumbass, you mean if WHAT SHE SAYS IS TRUE.
FACTS MEANS THEY ARE TRUE.
UFR. Jell0, is that you?
First lie. She says they were in the Beast, meaning Beastmobile. No, they were in the Burb.
Please, do yourself a favor and claim you are Jell0.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Her lies have already been discredited by witnesses to the events.
If true, great, but I've not read that and the article suggests otherwise. Do you have a source?
Hahaha. Well, better tune in tonight to CNN. The MSM is your friend.
Tell us if the facts are real in Alice and Wonderland.
As far as the “mags”, Bongino tore that apart today on his show. Said presidents and venue staff are always asking to do that. Even Obama wanted to do it in NJ. Doesn’t mean that Zero was trying to overthrow NJ.
The silence of no one cross examining a hearsay witness speaks louder than the screaming, pissing and moaning of the left.
"A source close to the Secret Service told NBC News after the hearing that both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Trump never lunged for the steering wheel."
This ^^^^. The fact Tarqueen even started this thread when this information was out there shows just how stupid he is.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Hahaha Hahaha.. Nothing Tops Impeaching a President that’s not the President.. They going to Impeach Trump Again .. That was Political.. Your Talking What .. Felony.. What.. Boat Sailed .. Altho I’d bet Wray Wray would love some Payback for Trump mak’n him the FBI Director.. I’d bet naked pictures of You and Your Boyfriends Wray Wray would like to see Trump in his Gucci at 4am with his SWAT Team under the Moonlight.. You know Mordor on the Potomac has a Thing about Rousting 70 year old men in the Dead of Night .. As Sham Hannity always say It ain’t the Rank and File.. With Special Guest: “ You ain’t seen Nothing Yet “
Finding him guilty of a crime would keep him out of his plan to get in the WH again.
They are in a panic because they know what is coming.
Trump is our meal ticket out of the current scchit show and getting back to normal he knows what happened as most of us already have figured out it’ll all come out in the wash and the Democratic Party will suffer
The secret service agent in question has already stated,emphatically,that this woman's testimony was false.
He has not testified under oath and only refutes a portion of her testimony. Meadows and Cippione need to step to the plate instead of hiding behind executive privilege.
Ha. The puke buds of yours wont let him testify. You just cant seem to connect the dots. It's not a legal Senate investigation. It's a sham investigation. They always try to run on the public's perception of things rather than running on cold hard facts.
The do it in every narrative they push. They dont have the facts and that's why they always lose.
They depend on the MSM and fools like you. They are too stupid to learn this.
Trump is our meal ticket out of the current scchit show and getting back to normal he knows what happened as most of us already have figured out it’ll all come out in the wash and the Democratic Party will suffer
What I find questionable is the strange coincidence of, out of the clear blue sky, appears another "Ballsey Ford, with alleged (hearsay) DAMNING EVIDENCE to present to the highly biased committee, which just happens to have been putting this whole thing together since Jan. 6, 2021. Where's she been for the last 17 months??
It sounded to me like a script written and rehearsed multiple times in a manner to sway the public into thinking Trump acted insanely.
Also something that leapt out to me was her description of Trump's alleged assault on the Secret Service agent driver. She used a medical term to describe Trump's reaching forward to grab the agent's CLAVICLE. Uhhhh, that was written for her. Anyone else would say, "Trump reached forward and grabbed the agent's SHOULDER.
I have to admit, I don’t live for this sch!t here on the cf.
Although I check and read here regularly for entertainment/info, I really rarely follow what different posters do or their propensities, except for those that are really out there.
I never knew the backstory why folks hated on tarquin, until now.
To buy into this bs line, like he did initially and then still work to find reasons to lend credence to this sch!t as the story falls apart tells me this guy is an absolute douche who has a personal axe to grind.
I have to admit, I don’t live for this such!t here on the cf.
Although I check and read here regularly for entertainment/info, I really rarely follow what different posters do or their propensities, but bless they’re really out there.
I never knew the backstory why folks hated on tarquin, until now.
To buy into this bs line, like he did initially and then still work to find reasons to lend credence to this such!t as the story falls apart tells me this guy is an absolute douche who has a personal axe to grind.
Got no time for dipsch!ts like that.
TarQueen is living proof that TDS is real. And that Liberalism is a Disease.
She lied about Trump grabbing the steering wheel and the driver. It is impossible because there is a barrier between the drive and passenger compartment where the president sits.
Haven't read through all the posts, but what I get from this is that tarquin is a giddy school girl without an ounce of viable grey matter. Willing to hear arguments to the contrary....
At least the lefty trolls here don’t hide the fact they support the commies in charge. Tarqueen just lies and lies and expects everyone to believe his “concern”
At least the lefty trolls here don’t hide the fact they support the commies in charge. Tarqueen just lies and lies and expects everyone to believe his “concern”
Trump Is In Deep, Deep, Deep, Deep Trouble by John Podhoretz
The testimony this afternoon of Cassidy Hutchinson, the aide to Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, cannot be dismissed.
Oh, Jeezus save me.
A twenty-something year old testified to what??????? Since when is second hand "he told me that she said that they were, but he didn't" stuff critical and damning?
"I was told - and this is all second hand - by John Meadows that: (pick all that apply)
1. Trump is actually Satan. and Meadows told me he had seen the red suit, the pitch fork and Trumps pointy tail
2. Trump wanted to use phosgene gas on the Capitol to kill Pelosi and Schumer (might be accurate, I dunno)
3. Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Rudolf Hess, and Sepp Dietrick were all interspersed in the Jan 6 crowd whipping up the frenzy that culminated in the burning of the Capitol and the White House (No, wait, that was the British. In 1812)
Face it, this is all political theater. It sure got Russiagate off the front page. It sure got inflation off the front page. It sure got Covid off the front page. It sure got the border crisis off the front page. It sure got $5-6/gallon gas off the front page. It sure got Biden's gaffes off the front page. (should I continue?)
Trump Is In Deep, Deep, Deep, Deep Trouble by John Podhoretz
The testimony this afternoon of Cassidy Hutchinson, the aide to Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, cannot be dismissed.
Oh, Jeezus save me.
A twentysomething year old testified to what??????? Since when is second hand "he told me that she said that they were, but he didn't" stuff critical and damning?
"I was told - and this is all second hand - by John Meadows that: (pick all that apply)
1. Trump is actually Satan. and Meadows told me he had seen the red suit, the pitch fork and Trumps pointy tail
2. Trump wanted to use phosgen gas on the Capitol to kill Pelosi and Schumer (might be accurate, I dunno)
3. Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Rudolf Hess, and Sepp Dietrick were all interspersed in the Jan 6 crowd whipping up the frenzy the culminated in the burning of the Capitol and the White House (No, wait, that was the British. In 1812)
Face it, this is all political theater. It sure got Russiagate off the front page. It sure got inflation off the front page. It sure got Covid off the front page. It sure got the border crisis off the front page. It sure got $5-6/gallon gas off the fron page. It sure got Biden's gaffes off the front page. (should I continue?)
Probably. Listen to her testimony. Very little did she actually hear herself, 80 per cent was third hand. She qualified all of her testimony as “ he said something like”.
Would never be allowed as evidence in a criminal trial.
She has everything to loose and nothing to gain. Fly on the wall picked up all the fluff and stuff. The girl has a set of balls, like it or not.
You contend she has nothing to gain? oh she has plenty to gain by lying..... it's her ticket into the club of corruption... trillions of dollars to skim... you are a fuuckin idiot
The Capitol police, under the House Speaker's direct obligation, turned down National Guard support FROM the President/person with a persecution with no cross examination.
The FBI, the Capitol Police and the Speaker itself turned down increased security from the person allegedly who directed the "insurrection"....
WTF, over.
Seems to me any semblance of evidence of insurrection goes the other way.
Russian collusion, the "election", this bullshit and everything else pointed at Trump are the most treasonous things done in our history and everyone hoping to be famous are right popular with the majority of Americans.
They'd better hope they pull it off THIS TIME.....
Trump Is In Deep, Deep, Deep, Deep Trouble by John Podhoretz
The testimony this afternoon of Cassidy Hutchinson, the aide to Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, cannot be dismissed.
Oh, Jeezus save me.
A twenty-something year old testified to what??????? Since when is second hand "he told me that she said that they were, but he didn't" stuff critical and damning?
"I was told - and this is all second hand - by John Meadows that: (pick all that apply)
1. Trump is actually Satan. and Meadows told me he had seen the red suit, the pitch fork and Trumps pointy tail
2. Trump wanted to use phosgene gas on the Capitol to kill Pelosi and Schumer (might be accurate, I dunno)
3. Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Rudolf Hess, and Sepp Dietrick were all interspersed in the Jan 6 crowd whipping up the frenzy that culminated in the burning of the Capitol and the White House (No, wait, that was the British. In 1812)
Face it, this is all political theater. It sure got Russiagate off the front page. It sure got inflation off the front page. It sure got Covid off the front page. It sure got the border crisis off the front page. It sure got $5-6/gallon gas off the front page. It sure got Biden's gaffes off the front page. (should I continue?)
You left out G. Gordon Liddy and his crew of Cuban burglars, they were lurking outside Nancy Pelosi's office.
INSIDER Secret Service agents are prepared to testify that Trump did not lunge at them or try to take control of the car to reach the Capitol, reports say
Another important fact that was brought home today is that for 4 years the media got giddy every time an “unnamed source inside the White House” leaked info. Stupid crap like how much ice cream the Donald ate, or how much of a meanie he was, or if he put the toilet paper roll on backwards.
And now we are supposed to believe that someone said all the crap the Lil Miss Cassidy says she overheard and no one else heard it? For a year and a half people so willing to sing like a bird over total BS all of a sudden clammed up? They hated him so much that when he was no longer in office and could do nothing to them, they didn’t say a single cotton picking word about an assault and attempted carjacking?!?!?!?
Just a bunch of bullshit. I listened to some of it and none of it was first hand knowledge. Besides that I didn’t know it was illegal to get mad at somebody. Bull Schitt! Edk
The only schidt President Trump is in, is bull schidt emanating from the multiple anal orifices of this hoax committee. But, I will concede, it is getting pretty deep.
What allegedly happened in the SUV isn`t relevant and it was hearsay, it was the testimony about letting armed supporters into the rally and requesting the metal detectors be taken down that has the J6 committee buzzing.
This is just another “engineered” investigation with the goal being the same as it was 6 years ago….destroy Trump.
If we had honesty and integrity in the FBI and the DOJ, we wouldn’t be going through this schitt…my only wish is that when we get control the next go round, we gut the FBI & DOJ and hire people with integrity…. This is BS!!!
Tarquin: just what is it you want from Donald Trump?? Be specific. You never wanted a pound of flesh from Obummer when he was smearing chicken grease on the doorknobs in the White House, but you've followed Donald Trump like a deranged female stalker. What do you want from him???
What allegedly happened in the SUV isn`t relevant and it was hearsay, it was the testimony about letting armed supporters into the rally and requesting the metal detectors be taken down that has the J6 committee buzzing circling the drain.
This whole committee is laughable on its face. Not legally appointed, has dug themselves a hole since day one and just keeps on digging now that they realize they have been found to be a dog and pony show of the lowest order. If it wasn't apparent enough that the "witness" was reading from a script and her legal counsel admitted she was just repeating what she was told- the scene that sealed the deal was her hugging Cheney and several other members of the J6 Committee as though they were old friends. It seems if they wanted people to take them seriously they would have contacted the SS to corroborate her story.
It is apparent they are trying to create a narrative to damage Trump and also deflect to keep people's attention away from the horrible job Slow Joe is doing and the fact that more and more is coming out about Nancy Pelosi's screw up refusing the National Guard that was offered and approved by Trump for Jan 6 and the expected trouble that had been forecast early on... It's no coincidence that Pelosi orchestrated this whole Jan 6 Commission charade once she realized she was culpable for everything that happened that day by abdicating her responsibilities for the security of the event... I hope she rots in hell...
I have it on good authority from someone who posted they'd heard from a reliable source that someone close to you stated they had proof you liked cock. If this is not true, why won't that person come forward to testify that it's not true? Must be true, right?
And you wonder why you are so despised on this forum.
Tarquin: just what is it you want from Donald Trump?? Be specific. You never wanted a pound of flesh from Obummer when he was smearing chicken grease on the doorknobs in the White House, but you've followed Donald Trump like a deranged female stalker. What do you want from him???
Tarquin: just what is it you want from Donald Trump?? Be specific. You never wanted a pound of flesh from Obummer when he was smearing chicken grease on the doorknobs in the White House, but you've followed Donald Trump like a deranged female stalker. What do you want from him???
I posted an article from Commentary that is current. Don't be threatened by it.
I have it on good authority from someone who posted they'd heard from a reliable source that someone close to you stated they had proof you liked cock. If this is not true, why won't that person come forward to testify that it's not true? Must be true, right?
And you wonder why you are so despised on this forum.
I can just see all the same old Lefty punks wringing their hands...."We got him now! He's going down for sure this time!!!"............... "Oh, s h i t, not again!...."
I don’t think Trump or his people need to say anything to anybody. If they think they can convict him, they should charge him with something and let’s see how that goes down with the rest of the country.
They will never charge him, they just want to smear him...Charging him would open up Discovery and subpoenaing witnesses that would have to Testify in a court of law and actually risk perjury and be cross examined by Trump's lawyers, and then people would start hearing how much of a scam this whole thing is..
Trump Is In Deep, Deep, Deep, Deep Trouble by John Podhoretz
The testimony this afternoon of Cassidy Hutchinson, the aide to Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, cannot be dismissed. If what she has testified to, sworn under oath, is not countered or contradicted by Meadows or Trump’s White House counsel Pat Cippolone—either under oath themselves or eventually before a grand jury—then there is a credible criminal case that Trump violated the law in ways not dealt with by the second impeachment, and from which he would not be shielded by executive privilege. It’s possible her memory is faulty, or that she is a fantasist and that none of this happened. But she has reported directly on things that went on inside the White House and around the Oval Office on January 5 and January 6 that go beyond the merely circumstantial.
The case the January 6 committee is building in a far more painstaking manner than anyone could have expected is that Trump knowingly encouraged the formation of and participated in the forward deployment of a crowd he knew was armed. He was told so on January 6. We also know now that Trump had told Meadows to make contact on January 5 with Roger Stone and Michael Flynn, both of whom were communicating with the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers—some of whose leaders have been charged with seditious conspiracy. We also know that Meadows told Hutchinson he was going to go to the suite personally but she either changed his mind or he did and he called instead. What was said on the call we do not yet know.
Hutchinson testified that Trump was told by the Secret Service they were making the crowd at the rally on January 6 go through magnetometers because they were armed. Trump was angered by this, something she knew because she was “in the vicinity of a conversation where I overheard the president say something to the effect of, ‘You know, I don’t f-ing care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the f-ing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in. Take the f-ing mags away.’”
He also wanted to drive to the Capitol in the lead and physically tussled with the Secret Service in his SUV when they weren’t going to do so because they could not guarantee his safety. She testified that Cippolone told her if Trump marched to the Capitol, “We’re going to get charged with every crime imaginable.” And she reported Meadows saying of the chant to hang Vice President Mike Pence that Trump “doesn’t want to do anything,” and that “he thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong.”
You’re going to hear people call this “hearsay.” It is not hearsay. It is direct testimony of contemporaneous things said in Hutchinson’s earshot about events that were taking place while she was listening.
And here’s the rub for Trump. He has so far been protected by Meadows and Cippolone because they have refused to testify to the committee under claims of executive privilege—that Congress does not have the power to force them to speak about their direct conversations with the president or the actions they may have taken under his direct authority because the executive branch is not subordinate to the legislative branch. But they can testify if they choose. If they do not, they will, in essence, be allowing Hutchinson’s testimony to stand. If they do, and they do not say everything she said was a lie, her testimony will stand and be bolstered by them. And if they testify and say their recollections of the days were different, they will have to report in what way they were different—and will not be able to refuse to answer questions they find uncomfortable.
But if they do remain silent and Hutchinson’s testimony is not somehow rebutted, they can be made to testify if Attorney General Merrick Garland convenes a grand jury on the basis of the revelations of the January 6 committee and subpoenas them. Failure to testify under those conditions will lead to prison time.
I did not think this day would come. I have said as much on our podcast many times. But as a result of the bombshells today, there’s no question now that Donald Trump is staring down the barrel of an indictment for seditious conspiracy against the government of the United States.
And I haven’t even gotten to the possible witness tampering!
John Podhoretz is the editor of Commentary.
She's a liar. Unless you are a total suck ass lefty listen to a guy who had the job and knows the agents involved. Good Lord get some common sense.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
...................Well they ARE NOT TRUE because the 2 ss agents in the car (the beast) are WILLING to testify that her account is completely false......
Another LIE about Trump totally debunked.....IN FACT, the guy she said that told her that story,,,denied telling her that story.
Torq-eee............The Jan 6 committee is a scam, a fraud and full of lies. Ya know why? Because this proceeding IS NOT allowing for ANY cross examinations, not allowing any opposing witnesses to be called and that full committee all voted to impeach Trump.......This has a pre- determined outcome in order to keep Trump off of any 2024 ballot.
The demCRAPS do not care about the rule of law nor the Constitution.
I don’t think Trump or his people need to say anything to anybody. If they think they can convict him, they should charge him with something and let’s see how that goes down with the rest of the country.
They will never charge him, they just want to smear him...Charging him would open up Discovery and subpoenaing witnesses that would have to Testify in a court of law and actually risk perjury and be cross examined by Trump's lawyers, and then people would start hearing how much of a scam this whole thing is..
This is an event that will become a prominent piece of history as a reminder to anyone who might challenge the regime of what happens when you do so.
The Reps who may have been tempted have heard it loud & clear and those were few and far between.
Those who remain to speak truth are only that much more offensive and must be more forcibly threatened and we’re seeing that here as well as in the pres.
What allegedly happened in the SUV isn`t relevant and it was hearsay, it was the testimony about letting armed supporters into the rally and requesting the metal detectors be taken down that has the J6 committee buzzing.
Really, more hear-say testimony from an already discredited witness.
Why would Trump authorize 20K NG troops (Pelosi refused BTW) then order the Metal Detectors removed? That’s right, he wouldn’t.
They got nothing, yet again, and made fools of themselves (and the media whores) trying to peddle it to cover up the huge fuggin’ disaster in the White House. Gas and groceries will be issues in November, unless we go to war.
She said "something to the affect of" so many times in her testimony. Plausible deniability and hearsay. That way she can say it was what she thought she heard without perjuring herself.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Her lies have already been discredited by witnesses to the events.
If true, great, but I've not read that and the article suggests otherwise. Do you have a source?
That would be a good start. They also need to rebut her claim that Trump said he knew they were armed but wanted the metal detectors taken down nonetheless. Potentially, that is very damning. This is where I come back to my basic complaint about DJT: stupid, egomaniacal mother effer. JFC! There is a lot more at stake (MAGA) than his damned ego needs.
Impressive just how stupid you leftrats are, it is all a lie if one piece of it is a lie. She was Meadows aid not Trumps.
She said "something to the affect of" so many times in her testimony. Plausible deniability and hearsay. That way she can say it was what she thought she heard without perjuring herself.
It's all BS
Clyde
True, she’s been coached by the best. You could see her trying to remember exactly what she had she had been told to memorize.
Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson testified before the committee on Tuesday that Tony Ornato, who is currently assistant director of the Secret Service Office of Training, told her that Trump became irate while in his vehicle on January 6 after he was told he could not go to the Capitol.
Hutchinson said that Ornato had told her Trump had tried to grab the steering wheel and that Ornato had made those comments in a room with Robert Engel, the Secret Service agent in charge of Trump's detail on the day.
Ornato was White House deputy chief of staff for operations at the time. He had been permitted to leave his Secret Service role temporarily in order to serve as deputy chief of staff in an unusual move for the service.
Following Hutchinson's testimony, Secret Service sources told various media outlets that agents were ready to testify and refute the claim. Those agents reportedly include Engel and Ornato as well as the driver of the car.
That has placed renewed attention on the Secret Service and that attention looks set to intensify after investigative journalist and author Carol Leonnig told MSNBC on Tuesday that some agents in Trump's security detail appeared to support the Capitol rioters, while Ornato and Engel are considered to be "aligned" with Trump.
"There was a very large contingent of Donald Trump's detail who were personally cheering for Biden to fail," Leonnig said.
"Some of them even took to their personal media accounts to cheer on the insurrection and the individuals rioting up to the Capitol, as patriots. That is problematic," she said.
"I am not saying that Tony Ornato or Bobby Engel did that but they are viewed as being aligned with Donald Trump, which cuts against them," Leonnig added. "However, if they testify, under oath, 'this is what happened,' I think that is going to be important."
This isn't the first time questions have been raised about the role of Secret Service agents on January 6. In April, Democratic Representative Jamie Raskin highlighted the fact that former Vice President Mike Pence had refused to get into an armored limousine manned by Secret Service agents during the Capitol riot.
Raskin, who is a member of the select committee, suggested that Pence had refused to get into the vehicle because he knew it was part of a "coup" attempt.
"He knew exactly what this inside coup they had planned for was going to do," Raskin said. "It was a coup directed by the president against the vice president and against the Congress."
Some have theorized that the intention was to drive Pence away from the Capitol in order to prevent him from carrying out his role in certifying the 2020 Electoral College votes, though this theory has not been proven.
In 2019, then President Trump removed the director of the Secret Service, Randolph "Tex" Alles, in what one unnamed official called "a near-systematic purge" of the agency. Trump then appointed James Murray as his replacement and Murray is still in the post.
Following President Joe Biden's election victory in 2020, it was widely reported that changes would be made to the Secret Service and agents who had protected Biden during the Obama administration would be brought back. Some of the president's allies were reportedly concerned about Secret Service agents having loyalty to Trump.
Newsweek has reached out to the Secret Service for comment.
Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson testified before the committee on Tuesday that Tony Ornato, who is currently assistant director of the Secret Service Office of Training, told her that Trump became irate while in his vehicle on January 6 after he was told he could not go to the Capitol.
Hutchinson said that Ornato had told her Trump had tried to grab the steering wheel and that Ornato had made those comments in a room with Robert Engel, the Secret Service agent in charge of Trump's detail on the day.
Ornato was White House deputy chief of staff for operations at the time. He had been permitted to leave his Secret Service role temporarily in order to serve as deputy chief of staff in an unusual move for the service.
Following Hutchinson's testimony, Secret Service sources told various media outlets that agents were ready to testify and refute the claim. Those agents reportedly include Engel and Ornato as well as the driver of the car.
That has placed renewed attention on the Secret Service and that attention looks set to intensify after investigative journalist and author Carol Leonnig told MSNBC on Tuesday that some agents in Trump's security detail appeared to support the Capitol rioters, while Ornato and Engel are considered to be "aligned" with Trump.
"There was a very large contingent of Donald Trump's detail who were personally cheering for Biden to fail," Leonnig said.
"Some of them even took to their personal media accounts to cheer on the insurrection and the individuals rioting up to the Capitol, as patriots. That is problematic," she said.
"I am not saying that Tony Ornato or Bobby Engel did that but they are viewed as being aligned with Donald Trump, which cuts against them," Leonnig added. "However, if they testify, under oath, 'this is what happened,' I think that is going to be important."
This isn't the first time questions have been raised about the role of Secret Service agents on January 6. In April, Democratic Representative Jamie Raskin highlighted the fact that former Vice President Mike Pence had refused to get into an armored limousine manned by Secret Service agents during the Capitol riot.
Raskin, who is a member of the select committee, suggested that Pence had refused to get into the vehicle because he knew it was part of a "coup" attempt.
"He knew exactly what this inside coup they had planned for was going to do," Raskin said. "It was a coup directed by the president against the vice president and against the Congress."
Some have theorized that the intention was to drive Pence away from the Capitol in order to prevent him from carrying out his role in certifying the 2020 Electoral College votes, though this theory has not been proven.
In 2019, then President Trump removed the director of the Secret Service, Randolph "Tex" Alles, in what one unnamed official called "a near-systematic purge" of the agency. Trump then appointed James Murray as his replacement and Murray is still in the post.
Following President Joe Biden's election victory in 2020, it was widely reported that changes would be made to the Secret Service and agents who had protected Biden during the Obama administration would be brought back. Some of the president's allies were reportedly concerned about Secret Service agents having loyalty to Trump.
Newsweek has reached out to the Secret Service for comment.
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined. I don't fear hearing both sides of an argument to figure out who is telling the truth, do you? "He said, she said" is where this stands at the moment, only one them has testified under oath so far.
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined. I don't fear hearing both sides of an argument to figure out who is telling the truth, do you? "He said, she said" is where this stands at the moment, only one them has testified under oath so far.
lol... oh, so it's the SERIOUSNESS of the charge right? You're a concern troll who's full of chit. And your repeated attempts at legitimizing your positions with "links" to bullchit sources are pathetic.
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined. I don't fear hearing both sides of an argument to figure out who is telling the truth, do you? "He said, she said" is where this stands at the moment, only one them has testified under oath so far.
No it isn't he said she said. She's already been proven a liar.. in the same day. Wake the fugk up and unplug your cock holster from mainstream media hunting for bad news on Trump. Geebus.
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined. I don't fear hearing both sides of an argument to figure out who is telling the truth, do you? "He said, she said" is where this stands at the moment, only one them has testified under oath so far.
lol... oh, so it's the SERIOUSNESS of the charge right? You're a concern troll who's full of chit. And your repeated attempts at legitimizing your positions with "links" to bullchit sources are pathetic.
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined.
So you’re trying to say that her testimony about overhearing conversations of third parties is more credible than the third party the conversation was supposedly about???………………priceless display of idiocy….
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined. I don't fear hearing both sides of an argument to figure out who is telling the truth, do you? "He said, she said" is where this stands at the moment, only one them has testified under oath so far.
lol... oh, so it's the SERIOUSNESS of the charge right? You're a concern troll who's full of chit. And your repeated attempts at legitimizing your positions with "links" to bullchit sources are pathetic.
Enjoy your $5 per gallon gas biden voter.
squidgy fake news sources. just like when when he was defending obama
msnbc nyt newsweek the hill politico time the Atlantic
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined. I don't fear hearing both sides of an argument to figure out who is telling the truth, do you? "He said, she said" is where this stands at the moment, only one them has testified under oath so far.
I missed the cross examination of the second hand, third party "witness"....pretty quick to find a liar that way.
There is not and will not be any argument that isn't and hasn't been one sided because the only guilty party of not securing the Capitol on Jan. 6th is the wench that dreamed up this circus to save her own ass against the actual law and not the semantics you think are an actual legal process.
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined.
So you’re trying to say that her testimony about overhearing conversations of third parties is more credible than the third party the conversation was supposedly about???………………priceless display of idiocy….
Here’s a little newsflash for Tarqueen and his ilk:
Americans don’t give a fugk if President Trump did do the things that witness lied about. He is good for America. Pieces of fugking schit like you are not.
Enjoy your blathering because the millennials and younger that lean right see bullseyes on your heads.
Here’s a little newsflash for Tarqueen and his ilk:
Americans don’t give a fugk if President Trump did do the things that witness lied about. He is good for America. Pieces of fugking schit like you are not.
Enjoy your blathering because the millennials and younger that lean right see bullseyes on your heads.
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?
Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined.
So you’re trying to say that her testimony about overhearing conversations of third parties is more credible than the third party the conversation was supposedly about???………………priceless display of idiocy….
Dont get worked up............ they pulled the last minute stuff on cavaghn as well.... a last minute witness , that cant get backed up......more B.S. for people that are already indoctrinated
Here’s a little newsflash for Tarqueen and his ilk:
Americans don’t give a fugk if President Trump did do the things that witness lied about. He is good for America. Pieces of fugking schit like you are not.
Enjoy your blathering because the millennials and younger that lean right see bullseyes on your heads.
All Trump had to do was say the people have spoken and then sit back and watch what is happening now and he would be back in in 2024 in a landslide. Sadly, his ego wouldn't allow it so we all lost.
Here’s a little newsflash for Tarqueen and his ilk:
Americans don’t give a fugk if President Trump did do the things that witness lied about. He is good for America. Pieces of fugking schit like you are not.
Enjoy your blathering because the millennials and younger that lean right see bullseyes on your heads.
The dumbass never considered there was no law broken or statute to charge him with if what the Meadows/Q plant Cassidy said about Trump was true.
There are no statutes against doing what the left claims.
If the facts she described are true then that's very bad for Trump. Question is whether Meadows and Cippolone will waive executive privilege to rebut her. If she is lying you would expect them to waive and rebut.
Your little wet dream here is all smoke and mirrors. She has perjured herself and should face charges and imprisonment.
They have tried, and tried and tried to "get" President Trump and they have utterly and completely failed on every single impotent attempt. Many of them will be on trial in the near future, in a real court, and subsequently occupying prison cells at Gitmo.
F*ck Megyn Kelly and any self-serving attempt to get back into good graces with conservatives. She sold us down the river for a paycheck and I would not give her the time of day, regardless of what conclusion she's peddling.
F*ck Megyn Kelly and any self-serving attempt to get back into good graces with conservatives. She sold us down the river for a paycheck and I would not give her the time of day, regardless of what conclusion she's peddling.
All Trump had to do was say the people have spoken and then sit back and watch what is happening now and he would be back in in 2024 in a landslide. Sadly, his ego wouldn't allow it so we all lost.
Uh, I think we are watching what is happening.
Like Q said, never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself.
As for Trump's mouth, it got him nearly 12 million more votes the second election.
When do you tease and torment your enemy? Only when you are in total control.
All Trump had to do was say the people have spoken and then sit back and watch what is happening now and he would be back in in 2024 in a landslide. Sadly, his ego wouldn't allow it so we all lost.
Uh, I think we are watching what is happening.
Like Q said, never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself.
As for Trump's mouth, it got him nearly 12 million more votes the second election.
When do you tease and torment your enemy? Only when you are in total control.
All Trump had to do was say the people have spoken and then sit back and watch what is happening now and he would be back in in 2024 in a landslide. Sadly, his ego wouldn't allow it so we all lost.
Uh, I think we are watching what is happening.
Like Q said, never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself.
As for Trump's mouth, it got him nearly 12 million more votes the second election.
When do you tease and torment your enemy? Only when you are in total control.
How did you decipher what coyote268 stated?
His statement is nonsensical.
It was a lucky guess.
Tired of hearing the lefts BS talking points they heard on MSNBC maybe.
Then-President Donald Trump angrily demanded to go to the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, and berated his protective detail when he didn't get his way, according to two Secret Service sources who say they heard about the incident from multiple agents, including the driver of the presidential SUV where it occurred.
The sources tell CNN that stories circulated about the incident -- including details that are similar to how former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson described it to the House select committee investigating January 6 -- in the months immediately afterward the US Capitol attack and before she testified this week.
While the details from those who heard the accounts differ, the Secret Service sources say they were told an angry confrontation did occur. And their accounts align with significant parts of Hutchinson's testimony, which has been attacked as hearsay by Trump and his allies who also have tried to discredit her overall testimony.
Like Hutchinson, one source, a longtime Secret Service employee, told CNN that the agents relaying the story described Trump as "demanding" and that the former President said something similar to: "I'm the f**king President of the United States, you can't tell me what to do." The source said he originally heard that kind of language was used shortly after the incident.
"He had sort of lunged forward -- it was unclear from the conversations I had that he actually made physical contact, but he might have. I don't know," the source said. "Nobody said Trump assaulted him; they said he tried to lunge over the seat -- for what reason, nobody had any idea."
The employee said he'd heard about the incident multiple times as far back as February 2021 from other agents, including some who were part of the presidential protective detail during that time period but none of whom were involved in the incident. The source added that agents often recounted stories of Trump's fits of anger, including the former President throwing and breaking things.
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