Just that. Prove me wrong. I’m speaking specifically to the “guys” that have an RV slot on a 1/8 acre in a northern state and refer to themselves as a xxxx resident. But in reality they have a second (primary) home in a warmer state.

All I ask is to own it.

Probably true. But a pretty smart move.

We see a fair share of those "Northerners" in Florida.

Can it Maser.

Yep, then they buy a 5 acre slice of heaven or 5 acre ranchette and instantly become natives of said state.

You miss him that much you need to let the World know it?

[bleep] you Cardenas.

I guess you do miss him. Go figure.

They don't have to worry about the primary home freezing up while they are gone.

A good friend lived in Montana for all of his life until retirement and then he started making the yearly trek south, after a few years he decided that it was easier to go north in the summer and not have to worry about things like freezing pipes, etc than it was to go south and spend the months there worrying about what could go wrong while he was away from Montana.
Not a bad logic, but he does not refer to himself as a Montana resident any longer though.

drover

Worked with a few dudes from Wisconsin that don't even remember where they are from.

Lots of em up here for a 3 month stay. Can't back up a boat to save their ass, no lake manners, steal our women, drink our beer, eat our fish. Crash their cars, because of them our gas goes even higher, no bar manners either.
Spend lots o money, and then woosh dey gone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL

I can't imagine being this butthurt over snowbirds.

None that I know.

Sounds like somebody is jealous ....

We have what we call “ halfbacks” in the Carolinas. Yankees move to Florida where they can’t take the heat. Then they move to the Carolinas, thus halfway back home. They are destroying our N.C mountains.

Took longer than I thought.

Jealous of what? The ability to be a pûssy? Lol.

If I wanted something I worked for it. If I wanted to live somewhere I made it happen. Now I’m watching a bunch of cûnts drive up the price on homes they have no plan on living in. I hope they all get monkey pox and die from aids. You want to live somewhere do it. If you can’t handle the winter sell and rent an rv slot.

I know a couple that have a home here and one in The Villages.
They rent the FL home in the winter and use it in the summer.

WTF?

Why in thee hell would you choose our winter and Florida summers.
He told me they get good rent money in the winter!

Dam guy is a millionaire and 75 years old!

Bet his last name ends in stein or burg or has gold or silver or Rosen in it

I like it when they leave.

I'm gonna get me another RV and drive it up to MT every year, stay for 6 months so I can be a resident.

I might buy a little plot of land near Gruff, or Conrad.

Maybe nearer to Sam O, he seems nicer and also easy to please with a box of White Claws.

That Remsen fella seems OK too, maybe I just park down the street from him???

Fugging Geno...

Our D-bag neighbors are snow birds. They show up about 4 months out of the year and bitch about everyone else when their yard looks like hell. They've got the cheapest smallest house in the neighborhood but complain because we have a chicken coop on our 1 acre rural lot. This week they're all upset because I bought an above ground pool for the kids. They say they are going to sell their house and move because we didn't even consider that they'd have to look at our pool from their back deck.

Wrinkly old lady that used to live in the bay area and then Seattle where she worked for Boeing. Never had kid so she thinks everyone else should have aborted theirs. Tried to guilt trip my wife about the pool I just told her call the realtor and we'll help her pack. Stupid bitch shows up a few months out of the year and tells us what to do on our property when we take care of theirs for free. She really overstepped this chicken coop and pool thing. I say move back to sewerattle or the gay area.

Bb

Just find a bar ditch on a rural road to empty them things into. Fertilize the wild asparagus.

That will get you profiled PDQ up here.


Its called a barrow pit or just the ditch.

This, for me.

I don't give a chit who lives where, and why. To each his own.

So many "conservatives" here judging other people's life choices, like a damn liberal.

I was speakin' texanese for Sandbilly.

Whats the Red Barron's handicap?

I am just trying to help you not end up in the ditch!

I prefer creeks nowadays.

Ditches are for puzzieees

You need one of those Argos.


Slow and buoyant.

Hovercraft.

Big mofo like the Marines use!

You know your old ass cant handle no hovercraft!


But just in case....get your rancher neighbor to take pictures!

Bingo.

Apathy is a liberal trait.

Gonna hover my ass right up to ol' Montany I tell you!

I wish you would!


You could be the Rabbit Boss. We keep losing litters.


Make you some of those slippers.

Dude, I gotta get some sleep. Need to brush my teefers first, they're feeling a bit fuzzy after good grilled meat, chicken and fish for dinner earlier.

But, I'll get back to you, want to know what's up with losing litters of bunnies.

winter sucks.. i seen already too many of them and i'm mid 30's. people are worse tho.

best snowbird deal is to go to new zealand for the winter and wyoming the rest of the time. two birds stoned at once

New Zealand???? For the whole winter?


Nyet.

That's what gets me
If you want a view, you need to buy it so
you can keep it the way you want it.
I've known a bunch of that type that buy
these " ranchettes " they sell here, then
expect the big place across the fence to
be like a view from a national park as long
as they live there. And they also have some
notion that livestock doesn't pee and sh*t
and it shouldn't stink, and that the southern
states shouldn't be hot all summer

well not the whole winter. hunting and surfing sucks before about mid to late january... then stay as long as ya want. stags keep their antlers until about september.

tahr and chamois hunting is obviously year round but both don't get real good winter coats until mid to later in march.

then the roar kicks off in april.

january 20th to may 20th is about right. then get a few weeks in at home before the terrorists i mean tourist start swarming. lol

Just go shoot a red stag out of my Father in Law's sheep yards.

I live 35 miles north of the Arctic Circle and the snow birds here go down to MT/WY/ID for the warmer weather and longer days....

Heck yeah!


I am headed north to meet some family some day.


Going to Kiana.

I know Kiana. My sister taught there for two years while I taught in Ambler. She had a janitor threaten her and I drove down and knocked on his door with my 44 Superblackhawk. He was nice as could be ever after and did her a couple of solids later on. They just have to know that you have people or grit or both and they fasten to you. I know the Shellabargers and the other folk from there. Squirrel river is a beautiful river.

That's where my biological grandfather was from.

Still folks there with the same last name. Cousins I guess.

my cousin ricky was the special ed teacher

best friend is the shop teacher in noatak.

They just claim to be Montanas so they can pay our state income tax.
I think you may have gotten your argument wrong in your jealous rage.

Calm down it's been a long winter but Spring has sprung.

You should consider becoming a resident while visiting Alaska, lots of free state money and no income or sales tax.
The Alaskan resident hunting privilege is grand!

You'd be just like Ted Turner, just another outta stater that owns a entire county in Montana.

Happy 4th!

I never really dealt with any when I lived in Montana but I lived more toward the middle of the state and on the Hi-Line. The area Gruff moved to sucks.

But down here I see tons of them in the winter and I would consider them to be some of the worst human beings that are barely alive. Everyone says Canadians are polite but I do not agree. They drive like fugking schit and their brains also seem to process things at 50% speed. If I were Supreme Ruler of the land no Canadian would be allowed to set foot on our soil. And in all likelihood I would invade and enslave them.

I also can't grasp leaving the north in winter or fall because (to my mind) those are the best times to be there.

We will likely end up with two homes at some point but neither one will be in tourist heaven. I suspect that's the main reason Gruff is angry about them. They really flock to his area.

Plus he's just sort of an ass hole anyway.

Johnson actually.


Guy at work calls me Bernstien, I add 'Berger to his last name.
Neither Jewish, but both could be called "A Jew".😉😁😁


Nothing wrong with stretching a buck!

Still get you profiled.
A creek is the noise your knees make.

A crick is where you dump waste oil, or terminate the sewer line.

lots of them down here.

An ass hole that don't have a winter residence.

Just about every creature migrates to one form or another of a wintering ground.
The damn birds even have enough sense to figure that out.

Humans on the other hand make vain attempts of creating controlled environments in attempt to find year round comfort in a single location.

They either pay sky-high untiliy bills or endure a lot of manual labor in doing so, a lot of sense that makes.

Grinds on a guy as he grows older.

Gruff's just burned out from another winter gone by and finding envy for those that found a simpler way.

If I had to choose a Montana location today as a seasonal residence it'd be in the foothills along the eastern front, Augusta or north there of.

There seems to be a lot of confusion as to what a “snowbird” really is.

A “Snowbird” goes south for the worst part of the winter. Any idiot going north for the summer would be a “Sunbird” or something similar.

Get it straight or start a thread on how to be confused about little or nothing…

The blessings of air conditioning! 😉

I don't that I could ever see myself essentially moving every 6 months. F that.

And the last thing I'd want to do is give up winters. 2nd best time of the year after fall.

You ought to see the look on Québécois snowbirds faces when you’re standing next to them in the line at the Love’s truck stop in Three Rivers Tex wearing wore out Wranglers and an old dirty black resistol and start talking French to em!

There eyes get big.

If there was no A/C here like when I was a kid, no one would live here. Snowflakes would melt.

Did a lot of research on the construction methods used in hot climates back it the day.
It's pretty interesting, a lot of methods that are seldom to never seen anymore.
Many of which we should revert back to, when was the last time you used a 10ft long crank to open a high window?

There was reason.

Lots of stuff not done anymore. We had sleeping porches. They worked good.

My grandparents in the 1970s had a ‘cabin’ in the Blue Ridge Mtns

Then had their regular home in Brooksville Fla on 55 acres. They would go stay in at their cabin for 6 weeks during July-August.

The old woman was director of nursing at one of major hospitals in Clearwater. Must of had hella vacation tine built up or able to do those ‘sabbiticals’

I was a 8-12 year old house and yard slave at the cabin during summer school break

Crick, you immigrant.

Covered porches on all 4 sides of a home successfully shaded the lower windows rather well, ceiling fans were key.

Don't snowbirds have to go north sometime so they have a place to go south from? This is kind of an enigma.

Looks like some significant tax advantages for a retiree to have FL residency. Summer is still much nicer up North. Seems like a good plan.

Would moving from Miami to Jacksonville be considered a snowbird event?

Got me there. shrapnel lost me at "Sunbird". I live in MI, where winters are cold and taxes are high. Lots of visitors in town now for the holiday weekend. It's kind of nice to see people having fun.

WI here - base of Door County - I expect hours long parades of license plates from IL. FIBs.

..... who bring revenue to the area and spend it.

and who pay taxes on their property that help support local schools, for kids whose parents relocated from Pennsylvania.

My parents were snowbirds. After a lifetime of working in the cold of Minnesota and raising 6 kids, they decided to spend their retirement winters in Mesa Arizona. Anybody that has a problem with that can kiss my fugkin ass.

This idiot is heading north for the winter.

we who live in America are free to go when ,where and any time we want ,plus even carry a consealed handgun in America . i spend my winters in Northern Minnesota i like the cold ,snowy winters less people around too then . i have friends who are snowbirds good for them its just not my thing to go south for the winter . i was raised in the land/ state of four seasons , spring , summer ,fall , winter , i worked all my life outside as a lineman in all weather conditions so i am just used to it and still enjoy the seasons in Minnesota out in my quiet country life.

They may be pussies, but they seem to have a pretty solid retirement plan and are enjoying it.

Yeah...the bitchy bastards are miserable when home...and then migrate in great drives to roost where it's warm and bitchy.

Careful.

Pretty much nails it. I know somebody who, while not a snow bird, is very well off and did/does very well in the stock market.

Has enough $$ to do whatever but always so worried about that $$ it's painful to listen to. Gas goes up a dime and we have to make complete different arrangements of appointments and trips to town because a trip might cost a few bucks more.

No bills other than living expenses.

Owns some good real estate.

Miserable SOB when it comes to life.

We call them summer pukes.
Or, some are people.

I hope your kids don't grow to be such a bitter [bleep].

At least the snowbirds leave for a few months.

How is caring about your community and your impact on others considered "bitter"?


Edited to add....a funny little mark above a letter in your cussword gets it past the censors.

We have a big bunch of them here that go to Yuma.

I guess it's really nice down there. In fact...they all go to the same neighborhood.


It's wild to me...because they can't stand each other when they are here...but all move in next door together for the winter down there.

When they come back up here...they bitch about each other down there.

I think I would find a place down south with new and different people.

I REPRESENT THAT REMARK!!!!

Never thought about being a "snowbird", but now I are one!
In 2019, my youngest bought a home in S. Texas. We live in S. Oklahoma

So...yes! We are "snowbirds" in that we spend winters in south Texas.
NO....we didn't purchase property to set our RV on!
We don't even OWN a RV!

But I will admit this!
I am a native Texan. I was born and raised in Palestine, Texas.
I met and married an Oklahoma girl there.
My grandmother had property, my dad sold it.
My wife's family deeded us 80 acres.
So here I am in Oklahoma.

I have an Oklahoma "Lifetime Hunting License".
To hunt in Texas, a "non-resident" is over $250!
There are deer on the kid's property, but I can't see spending that much money just to shoot a meat doe!
I HAVE considered changing my residence from Ok to Tx.
As simple as getting a Tx drivers license.
With my.luck, I'm the one who would get raked over the coals and fined umpteen gazillion bucks for "illegally obtaining a license" or "maintaing a residence in two states to fraudulently obtain a hunting license".
So, I'll photograph the deer in Texas and do my hunting in Oklahoma! 😜

Is that like 500 miles Martin?

lol

Yup, I’m a snowbird. I have shoveled more than enuf snow. Had to go to work EVERY day. There was no such thing as a snow day for me for 33 yrs. plus.
So, now we travel from NW MT to SW NM each early Dec. After big game season is over and I have a half dozen rooster pheasants in the freezer it’s time to head south. Not at all a bit embarrassed about such. I can hunt quail from early December through mid Feb. Then, off to TX to hunt feral hogs.
BTW, no snow shoveling. MTG

I was kinda deep into my cups last night, but I won't disavow the thread.

To everyone I triggered, I'll crack a cold one for you here in a few minutes.

It's hard to get through my day being so jealous and bitter. lololol

It’s usually the locals in each location that don’t/can’t travel doing the bitching.
Floriduh is pretty famous for bitching snowbirds while soaking up their dollars like like a fat kid eating cupcakes.

I was just thinking the same thing.

If I am a bitter fùck...I hope the kids are too I guess.

That way maybe they keep my farm open for hunting instead of leasing it to some prick outfitter for lots of money so the rich non bitter people don't have to hunt the same land as the working class slobs.

Some of those slobs drive their shìtty vehicles for hundreds of miles so they can hunt with their kids.


I just hates it.

Lots of flat landers here have second homes in the Sierra or on the Coast.

Didn't seem to be a problem many decades ago. Most of the locals welcomed the extra influx of seasonal money to economy.

Not so any longer. Increasing population, Shrinking real estate opportunities and movement of Marxist Libtards into those communities F'd everything up.

Several decades ago Deer season was still a thing for these communities. Now your looked on with scorn when busting into a cafe decked out in gear.

What area?

My Great Uncle had a place in Truth or Consequences.

They really liked it down there.

The crux of it.
Some folks suck azz no matter where they are.

I didn't mean that the places they go are bitchy....the people that go there are.

Like I mentioned...our snow birds hate each other here...yet all congregate in the same place down south.


You would think they would split up some.

How about nomads? We flee the heat here for 5-6 weeks most summers. It is gorgeous here in the winter so we spend most of Sept-May doing road trips to Id.,WY. and Mt. Predator hunting in the snow is the best and the good places aren't crowded.

Judgemental folks are kind of boring


mike r

⁷Yeah..you are real good for the economy.

Buy a bag of rice to go along with the fish heads you brought from home.


Thanks for the business buddy!

Know a fella that just moved down south of Tucson from Idaho.
Sonoita area.
Apparently has some great quail hunting. That sounds fun.

Sonoita is stunning. And yes, lots of birds.

My in-laws have the best of all worlds. "Normal" house in northern Utah. Cabin in Fairview, Utah. Condo in St. George, Utah. Call them what you want, they worked hard and now they play even harder.

Wife and I are grateful for good insulation here. Starting a month or so back, when daytime temps were getting into the high 80's, open windows at night, close them and thermal curtains when the sun comes up, house stays cool enough for her (Coastal gal, 85 is "Hot" for her) until night. I just got the little window A/C unit out of the shop and into the master bdrm the other day as we're hitting 90+ on some days. Haven't even had to fire up the portable swamp cooler yet.

I grew up in the interior of SoCal and we had no A/C until well after I moved out of the house. Eventually the old man cut a hole above the front door and stuck in a window mount A/C as we had casement windows and he figured that was easiest.

Regarding the old methods, them Spanish adobes worked really well but I don't think the developers are willing to build houses with 2'-3' thick walls, verandas all around, and a plaza in the middle with pavers draining into the cistern for water catchment. They sure are nice and cool in the summer and warm in the winter when one gets a chance to visit one of the still standing ones from a coupla centuries back.

I get a crick in my neck.

Creeks are for swimming.....................except some are Injuns I think.

Probably where you obtained that work ethic of yours.

Be grateful!

A winter and spring sounds nice down there. Hunt some quail and it doesn’t look far to Rocky Point for some fishing. Even over to San Diego for some long range boat fun.

If you'd seen Yuma in the "olden days" of the 70's, you'd be appalled at the Yuma of today.

Hadn't been through there in years due to living up in NorCal, PA, and Northern AZ. Had to go visit my old man near the end of his life, drove from N AZ to SoCal, passed through Yuma and was stunned. Lots of very large snowbird encampments consisting of park model mfg homes with a big carport for the motorhome attached to the side. Think a somewhat upscale white trash trailer park. And with it came the traffic. A couple of years later I was in need of a late minute "get my tag application in" trip to the F&G office there and had to get off the highway and take surface streets. Holy gridlock Batman. Couldn't get through the next stoplight on the avenues before it changed to red again.

More services there now, more money flowing through no doubt and I bet the Chamber of Commerce loves it. But they kinda ruined a nice little desert town as far as I'm concerned. If the southern freeway didn't go through it, I'd likely never have a need to visit it ever again.

I know there's at least one fellow here that winters down there, so no offense to him. It's just no longer the place it was. A slightly different take on SoCal if you ask me.

I'm trapped on the gulf of mexico due to the heat As soon as I can catch a cool snap, I'm heading back north for the rest of the summer.

Dropping the back door and catching a cool wind straight off of the gulf is worth $14.00 dollars a day.

My wife's family hails from two small towns/country Alexandria and Petersburg, PA. They have a very nice (belongs to my wife also) cabin on 99 acres in Rothrock state forest.The extended family also has a big lodge on the property and the entire family just dumped close to 1M in rebuilding the lodge, employing a LOT of local construction folks. My FIL lives in Pensacola November-April, then spends May-November in the Cabin with my wife keeping him out of trouble. I drive/fly up several times.

We pay taxes in Florida and PA with significant contributions to the local community (he paid for rebuilding the Volunteer Fire House), local church & City Hall and a few other projects. In short, we contribute more to the community than most locals here. Once I retire (again) our plan is to extend our stays in PA through December. I don't see how ANYBODY would have an issue with this or most others here who contribute to BOTH communities.

Jorge,
You aren't doing it right.... you are suppose to tell everyone they are doing things wrong and this is how we do it back home.... over pay for real estate, so property tax's increase... and most of all join/form an HOA so you can rule over the heathens and demand civility, like no chickens and junk cars... ha

Sonoita is likely 5 ish hours drive from the beach at Rocky Point.

As is the God Given right of the Landed Genrty.

Come on Jim it’s 2022 and REALLY, it’s OK to admit that you also like it when they come….

I think you mean your wife's dad pays and contributes in PA and your sawed off ass visits there because you married the owner's daughter.

LOL

Standing by for Powell to tell us all how tough it is too live somewhere that doesn't have winter.

LOL

If the green new deal ever comes about, you’ll probably be wishing you had given this topic a little more thought…FWIW, most mammals that have any sense and are capable, migrate with the seasons.

How many of them 'Floridians' winter in MN???

Name three that migrate from Montana to say, Texas.

Divers, puddle ducks and geese.

Mammals was the operative word.

Racist.

Human naked apes then. Big brains give us an advantage...well at least some of us apes.

If the humans in MT were truly naked apes...................................




they best migrate south or they'd get mighty cold.


We don't have Sasquatch hair.

I think the bigger the brain the dumber the ape.

Area? MT or NM? MTG

No snowbirds here. The subtropical portion of Texas/Louisiana is not a destination.

Easy peasey.


Winnebago, Jayco, and Airstream.

NM.

LMAO

That why they make cattle guards, or am I mistaken?

The only ones left in Montana during the winter are the ones who can't leave

Damn you, 7th grade science class!

Like sourdoughs here:

Sour on Alaska winters
Don’t have the dough to leave.

I do believe I've seen, or maybe smelled?, that having been done while out and about.

Ha Ha.

Don't think I've heard that one before.

Filed for future use.

Being a rain bird is in my plan. Jan-Feb sucks here.

Deming area. MTG

Cool. That's pretty close to where my Great Uncle stayed.


They would golf all winter.

Winter island retreat, comes with all the free bacon you can eat!

Florida tropical island retreat for sale

Closer to six, but far enough to get out of sub zero temps and the occasional blizzard 8n Ok.

In the 2021 "Deep Feeeze" the oldest stayed in the house while we went south.
Temps here got to -12° with shoulder deep snow drifts.
Unbelievably, temps in S. Texas got down to 15°!
It didn't kill the mesquites, but it did a number on the palm trees down there! Few survived.

I didn't know southern OK would freeze.

I live in Arizona. The Canada folks suck.

We've tried snowbirding but are not very good at it. Longest we've managed to stay away is about six weeks. We miss the seasons so we always head back early. Otherwise, I wouldn't get to plough the driveway. In truth, if not for having relatives in Florida and in Nevada, we would probably not go south at all. Last year, on the way to Florida, we burned our trailer to the ground and were lucky to get away with the truck. This changed our plans for the winter. We'll try again. GD

Yeppers!
Every year!

You gotta be 100% set-up on both ends.

Air fare is cheap and quick compared to driving.
I go back and forth often, at times just for the weekend.

I can go to Montana from Florida in about 7 hours if I catch the right flights, I pickup a couple hours doing it.
Breakfast in Florida, dinner in Montana, snow machining the next morning.
Got my water setup to where I can dump the lines in the time it takes to have a cup of coffee and then outta there.

I haven't been south of the Yellowstone River in about 15 years.


Hell I barely make it south of the local Missouri.

You see the old Wolf Point pictures I posted?

Nahhh, not really.

It’s like how Burelyboy described. They show up, part-time, uninvited, non-year round resident/neighbor, an start slinging [bleep] around. They start the slinging. Not OK.

Seen it through about four property changes on either side of my families cabin up in NH. I don’t have a “we were here first” kind of attitude, but man, they bring some un-neighborly kind of attitudes with them. And when that happens, it goes down hill fast. Hence the changes of ownership. lol.

I did not.


On this thread?

One thing I have discovered, is that Snowbirds DO NOT enjoy the discharge of firearms on an abutters property. No matter how proper and legal-like that shooting is done.

Exit stage left fast assss fuugggg

I should add, about 25 years and three neighbors later, we finally have some great ones. Excellent folks. One side.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...re-pictures-of-the-old-days#Post17382979

I recognize a scene or two!



That was a good thread, I'm checking it out.

Ain't anywhere for one to lite between Galveston, Texas and Biluxi, Mississippi.

They truly are the worst demographic I've ever been around.

I'd take ghetto monkeys any day.

The WORST.