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Posted By: persiandog Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/23/22
i had sleep study done and they recommend 'Nocturnal oxygen therapy' , i don't have any sleeping issues . complained about being tired all day.

have you done it? any good or bad results?
Maybe a second opinion is needed...
Your history and the results of the sleep study would be the reasons for the recommendation for O2 at night.

I'm in the same boat and it has been helpful. Yeah, inconvenient and a little awkward, at first, but I sleep better and wake up more rested.

Are you living above 4,000 ft altitude?
Originally Posted by Border Doc
Your history and the results of the sleep study would be the reasons for the recommendation for O2 at night.

I'm in the same boat and it has been helpful. Yeah, inconvenient and a little awkward, at first, but I sleep better and wake up more rested.

Are you living above 4,000 ft altitude?
Nampa is at 2500 ft altitude.
Yes it helps a lot. My 02 level drops to 86-87% at night while I am sleeping. This has nothing to do with Sleep Apnea. It takes a different test. I have mild Sleep Apnea though. I am on 1 lpm during the night and 2 lpm during the day when I am more active. It makes tremendous difference on how I now feel during the day. I live at 7650 feet altitude.

A person needs to have doctors order to by any oxygen equipment. Most concentrators supplied by oxygen providers are really noisy. Even if you put them two rooms way from where you sleep. The ones that also have compressors to fill portable bottles are worse.

If your insurance or medicare will pay for it or buy it outright, look at the Inogen Home Concentrator and by the life time guarantee. It is at least 1/2 the size smaller than most commercial ones an only 47 DB. I have mine in a closet in the same room as I sleep and I can hardly hear it.

If get so you need it during the day ,look at the Inogen G4 portable unit that is battery powered unless you want to drag one of those 25 liter bottles around on a cart
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/23/22
I drink Mtn Dew for a sleep disorder.
I have used one for 10 years or so. I highly recommend them to anyone who needs one!

It greatly improved how I feel and how I sleep! My O2 dropped to 67% when I did my sleep study!!!

However, I believe CPAP is much better than the auto bipap!
my test result :
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Couple glasses of wine works wonders
High eighties on the oximeter/Holter is cause for action. Daytime numbers in the 90-93 range, at 6,700' altitude, were suspicious and I was still tired in the mornings.
After a sleep study and their recommendation, I asked for answers and alternatives and got schooled. A low level of blood O2 means that chances for poor sleep are high and the same with increased chance of stroke, according to my MD. I did a little research via the WebMD/Mayo route to learn more, which was convincing enough to at least try that method.
The O2 concentrator I got from a medical rental program is reliable, effective and surprisingly quiet. The rental folks accept my Blue Cross/BS insurance without a co-pay and send me with plenty of tubing (up to 20-some feet) when they change the filter and put the concentrator on the testing machine every 6 or 12 months. Although it is only about 2 feet away from my head, I am never aware of any noise.
Saddlesore- sorry that we are in the same club. I don't require O2 help during the day. Yet.
I wonder why your concentrator is so loud.
You're gonna be dead in 5 years or less, what do you care?
Originally Posted by Skankhunt42
You're gonna be dead in 5 years or less, what do you care?


Just for fun.
Originally Posted by Border Doc
Saddlesore- sorry that we are in the same club. I don't require O2 help during the day. Yet.
I wonder why your concentrator is so loud.

My O2 therapy is paid for by the Department of Labor as I qualified as a past nuclear worker and had my lungs damaged as such. If I got my Medicare Advantage insurance (Humana) to pay for it, my copay would have been $180/mo.Ia l already take enough medication for other problems that I hit the doughnut gap in mid fall.

DOL only has certain approved companies to provide O2 so I had to go with APRIA. I sent the first one back and the second one was supposedly quieter. Not much though.Working around my small acreage, I can't be dragging one of those small bottles around,.
so I bought the home concentrator and portable one from Inogen. I have to keep the Apria set up as they provide a big bottle in case the power goes out and I have a supply of the smaller 25 liter bottles if I get away from the house for a longer period
Posted By: navlav8r Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/23/22
If you’re on it and using an O2 generator, make sure you notify the power company and they should bump up your priority in the event of a power failure.
I was on an O2 concentrator 24/7 for almost six months while recovering from massive blood clots in both lungs (pulmonary emboli) caused by Covid. The next 3 months, it was night time only. My 02 saturation is in the mid to high 90's now without supplemental O2, day or night. It has been a long, slow recovery process, but I was not expected to leave intensive care alive a year ago. Night time O2 makes sleeping a lot easier and much more restful. Go for it!
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
I use it and it helps. I'll even put it on while watching TV. I've had it ever since I made the mistake of getting a covid shot.

Bb
Posted By: slumlord Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
Originally Posted by Fireball2
I drink Mtn Dew for a sleep disorder.
Damn right

I supplement with red bull, vivarin and sweet tea

Your ass won’t be falling asleep watching Gunsmoke around here. No.1 because that stupid life wasting chit won’t be on to begin with.
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I use it and it helps. I'll even put it on while watching TV. I've had it ever since I made the mistake of getting a covid shot.

Bb

Never had Covid.

Yea, I put mine on about 6PM after getting cleaned up from the day. I have it on now.

I have a special back pack that is sold with my battery powered concentrator that I wear outside if I am doing something that requires little more effort.
Posted By: Dutch Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
Just a public service announcement as far as the “prescription required” nonsense they will throw at you to justify charging you five times to ten times the going rate.

First: any oxygen you buy from any company comes from the same fill plant. The only difference is that the “medical oxygen” comes with a form that says what the purity level is. When I get oxygen delivered to the farm, that truck just delivered to the hospital. Industrial is the same stuff as medical. Get you an industrial “K” bottle (tell ‘‘em you need it for your welder) to keep at home for backup. Should be about a $100 bill, and it holds about 7,000 liters when full, enough to keep you at 2 lpm for over 48 hrs in case of equipment failure or power outage and can be replaced at any welding supply house.

Second, you don’t need a “medical grade” oxygen concentrator: again, the “non medical grade” ones are the same, produce the same % oxygen, just without the paper trail. At a fraction of the cost, and none of the hassle.

The whole thing is a racket, like insurance rates for windshields.
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
I think having it on reduces my back and leg pain. Sounds crazy but it think it's just like better circulation. I need to get back to using my bipap. I can plug o2 right into it and if I can stand to keep it on and actually sleep I do pretty well the next day. I've got to get my sleep sorted out again. I've spent too many nights up all night lately and it's catching up with me. Good sleep fixes a lot of things.

Bb
Originally Posted by Dutch
Just a public service announcement as far as the “prescription required” nonsense they will throw at you to justify charging you five times to ten times the going rate.

First: any oxygen you buy from any company comes from the same fill plant. The only difference is that the “medical oxygen” comes with a form that says what the purity level is. When I get oxygen delivered to the farm, that truck just delivered to the hospital. Industrial is the same stuff as medical. Get you an industrial “K” bottle (tell ‘‘em you need it for your welder) to keep at home for backup. Should be about a $100 bill, and it holds about 7,000 liters when full, enough to keep you at 2 lpm for over 48 hrs in case of equipment failure or power outage and can be replaced at any welding supply house.

Second, you don’t need a “medical grade” oxygen concentrator: again, the “non medical grade” ones are the same, produce the same % oxygen, just without the paper trail. At a fraction of the cost, and none of the hassle.

The whole thing is a racket, like insurance rates for windshields.

I have a K bottle in the shop. I would not breathe anything that came out of those bottles. When I go to get a refill. I see the way they are handled and filled. In order to get Department of Labor to pay for mine, I must have doctor submit a form of Medical Necessity to get it approved and I must do it every year. They pay 100%. The medical grade concentrators and bottles are sterilize before delivered. Shop grade are not.

Self medicating with O2 can be as dangerous as self medicating with other drugs
Posted By: akasparky Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
Originally Posted by Dutch
Just a public service announcement as far as the “prescription required” nonsense they will throw at you to justify charging you five times to ten times the going rate.

First: any oxygen you buy from any company comes from the same fill plant. The only difference is that the “medical oxygen” comes with a form that says what the purity level is. When I get oxygen delivered to the farm, that truck just delivered to the hospital. Industrial is the same stuff as medical. Get you an industrial “K” bottle (tell ‘‘em you need it for your welder) to keep at home for backup. Should be about a $100 bill, and it holds about 7,000 liters when full, enough to keep you at 2 lpm for over 48 hrs in case of equipment failure or power outage and can be replaced at any welding supply house.

Second, you don’t need a “medical grade” oxygen concentrator: again, the “non medical grade” ones are the same, produce the same % oxygen, just without the paper trail. At a fraction of the cost, and none of the hassle.

The whole thing is a racket, like insurance rates for windshields.

There are complications with attempting that.

Late one night, about a year back Jim Conrad was trying to make his welding tanks work in a emergency situation, he had a broken regulator and a guy running out of Oxygen.

It didn't pan out, best I recall there was a intentional lack of thread compatibility and his welding regulator couldn't be adjusted to what was needed for medical use.

Maybe Jim will chime in with the details...

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Posted By: Geno67 Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
"(AKAsparky) Did you get that regulator ordered?

(Jim Conrad) Yes I did. If nothing else, I will be able to use a big bottle off my cutting rig if and when the Hospital doesn't help."

That sounds like he got it worked out.

The medical and industrial incompatibility is a scam to charge people 10 times the actual worth. There's a million ignorant regulations of that type in use in this country.
Posted By: Geno67 Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
Originally Posted by saddlesore
Originally Posted by Dutch
Just a public service announcement as far as the “prescription required” nonsense they will throw at you to justify charging you five times to ten times the going rate.

First: any oxygen you buy from any company comes from the same fill plant. The only difference is that the “medical oxygen” comes with a form that says what the purity level is. When I get oxygen delivered to the farm, that truck just delivered to the hospital. Industrial is the same stuff as medical. Get you an industrial “K” bottle (tell ‘‘em you need it for your welder) to keep at home for backup. Should be about a $100 bill, and it holds about 7,000 liters when full, enough to keep you at 2 lpm for over 48 hrs in case of equipment failure or power outage and can be replaced at any welding supply house.

Second, you don’t need a “medical grade” oxygen concentrator: again, the “non medical grade” ones are the same, produce the same % oxygen, just without the paper trail. At a fraction of the cost, and none of the hassle.

The whole thing is a racket, like insurance rates for windshields.

I have a K bottle in the shop. I would not breathe anything that came out of those bottles. When I go to get a refill. I see the way they are handled and filled. In order to get Department of Labor to pay for mine, I must have doctor submit a form of Medical Necessity to get it approved and I must do it every year. They pay 100%. The medical grade concentrators and bottles are sterilize before delivered. Shop grade are not.

Self medicating with O2 can be as dangerous as self medicating with other drugs

If you're not bright enough to do the math for correct mixture - you're existence isn't helping the human race as a whole.

As for sterilization - LOLOLOLOLOL - who sterilizes the air you breathe when you're outside or in your car?
Originally Posted by Geno67
If you're not bright enough to do the math for correct mixture - you're existence isn't helping the human race as a whole.

As for sterilization - LOLOLOLOLOL - who sterilizes the air you breathe when you're outside or in your car?

I am bright enough to know what oxygen to use and it sure as hell is not welding grade. It isn't the oxygen that is sterilized it is the equipment and bottles dumb $hit. I don't bring crap into my house that some 15 an hour scum has handled. My lungs are crapped up by breathing a whole lot of crap I didn't have a choice to. As for not helping the human race,you can kiss my a$$. This forum is full of ignorant low lifes like yourself that never contribute anything useful. I have no doubt if you needed oxygen ,you would stick the cutting torch in your mouth and turn on the regulator.
Try walking by somebody's O2 concentrator machine and firing off a stinky fart. That's probably more hazardous than breathing a little welding oxygen. If a welding tank all that was available and the need was extreme, damn right I'd be using it!
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Try walking by somebody's O2 concentrator machine and firing off a stinky fart. That's probably more hazardous than breathing a little welding oxygen. If a welding tank all that was available and the need was extreme, damn right I'd be using it!
Yes if all that was available. I have to use O2 all night. Hard to drag big bottle up to the house and up a flight of stairs. I have big bottle in the basement and 100ft of hose if power goes out.Good for about 3 days.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
Hahaha

Hey geno67

Saddle oxford sally has many of us on Ignore.

YOURE NEXT MISTER !!!


seal the deal and tell him Miss Lynn is a lot lizard
Posted By: UpThePole Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
Have had nighttime concentrator for 10 years, Medicare pays almost all.

COVID damage now has me on one on days at high altitude. Nice rechargeable battery unit. Again Medicare pays most.

What's all the drama about ?

Power failure ? Mine plugs in car/truck cig lighter.

As with most things, KISS is the answer.
Posted By: Geno67 Re: Nocturnal oxygen therapy - 09/24/22
Originally Posted by saddlesore
Originally Posted by Geno67
If you're not bright enough to do the math for correct mixture - you're existence isn't helping the human race as a whole.

As for sterilization - LOLOLOLOLOL - who sterilizes the air you breathe when you're outside or in your car?

I am bright enough to know what oxygen to use and it sure as hell is not welding grade. It isn't the oxygen that is sterilized it is the equipment and bottles dumb $hit. I don't bring crap into my house that some 15 an hour scum has handled. My lungs are crapped up by breathing a whole lot of crap I didn't have a choice to. As for not helping the human race,you can kiss my a$$. This forum is full of ignorant low lifes like yourself that never contribute anything useful. I have no doubt if you needed oxygen ,you would stick the cutting torch in your mouth and turn on the regulator.

You do realize - EVERY SINGLE THING YOU BUY ANYWHERE - has been handled by some 15 dollar an hour as you call them "scum". Thank you for making my point. I hope you don't reproduce.

Originally Posted by slumlord
Hahaha

Hey geno67

Saddle oxford sally has many of us on Ignore.

YOURE NEXT MISTER !!!


seal the deal and tell him Miss Lynn is a lot lizard

What a moron. I bet his neighbors lose iq points every time they speak with him. At least his air is sanitized or purified or whatever the hell he was saying. I have no idea how you go about doing that but.... to each his own.
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