How resistant are odometers from being set back nowadays? I've been cruising used pickup ads on farcebook marketplace...some of these listed odo readings seem awfully low to me. 15 yr old pickups with 80k on them? C'mon man. We live in a pretty rural area, folks don't think much of going a hundred miles to dinner and a movie.
Young folks with a smaller vehicle for everyday use?
No telling, but it does seem odd. We've got close to 100k on a 6 year old vehicle. Then again, my Tacoma is only getting 5-6 thousand a year now, as it's more expensive to drive than the RAV4.
I ain’t like a gazillion other dumbfukks that run up miles on their pickups going to the county fair to eat cotton candy or Taco bell runs, driving to pottery classes at night.
My truck is for big, or serious biz usually pulling a trailer.
They're really hard to tamper with nowadays. I've got a friend with a 1997 pickup that has less than 90K on it, he just rarely drives it and instead drives a car. My truck only gets about 6000 miles a year vs. 30,000 for my Camry. 40 mpg vs. 15 mpg and $3.30 a gallon gas has me only driving the truck when I have to.
My 05 1500 has 93000, I bought it 2 years ago with 72000 to put less miles on my duramax, now I only put 4000 on the duramax. The 05 was a mine truck driven on dirt roads by a supervisor, it had more hours, averaged 18mph before I got it going by hours.
Now days anytime you get something done to the vehicle the mileage goes into a database, we have to have emissions, so if someone tampered it would show up under the last recorded mileage, it would be an issue with the title transfer.
Flintelock: My "one owner" (ME!) 1996 Dodge Cummins Diesel 4x4 extended cab, five speed, 3/4 ton truck has 140,000 "original" miles on it at 26 years of age - thats 5,385 miles per year. So yes there are many low mileage vehicles out there - I seek them out for relatives and friends constantly. I fully expect that Dodge Cummins truck of mine to last me the rest of my natural born days. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy P.S.: My life long friend Jack from Puget Sound country was a body shop owner for 50+ years until he retired. He was KNOWN for "spinning back" odometers in the 1960's - 1980's then the "electronic odometers" came along and it took him 10 years to figger out how to stop miles from adding up on Ford pickups and SUV's "exploders" (as he referred to his favorites the Ford Explorers). He could NOT turn these odometers back he just kept them from adding miles up. In other words skullduggery could still possibly going on with some vehicles.
Flintelock: My "one owner" (ME!) 1996 Dodge Cummins Diesel 4x4 extended cab, five speed, 3/4 ton truck has 140,000 "original" miles on it at 26 years of age - thats 5,385 miles per year. So yes there are many low mileage vehicles out there - I seek them out for relatives and friends constantly. I fully expect that Dodge Cummins truck of mine to last me the rest of my natural born days. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy P.S.: My life long friend Jack from Puget Sound country was a body shop owner for 50+ years until he retired. He was KNOWN for "spinning back" odometers in the 1960's - 1980's then the "electronic odometers" came along and it took him 10 years to figger out how to stop miles from adding up on Ford pickups and SUV's "exploders" (as he referred to his favorites the Ford Explorers). He could NOT turn these odometers back he just kept them from adding miles up. In other words skullduggery could still possibly going on with some vehicles.
Sounds like a guy that would fit nicely into the "used to be a friend" category. What self-respecting person wants to associate with a known liar and thief?
My 2014 2500HD just rolled 50K, and I am the original owner. They are out there, check for service records etc. Some can be pure BS and a scam, but there ones with very low mileage. I would guess a good inspection one could tell pretty easy if things all add up.
I "know someone", ahem..... that rented a uhaul once and unplugged the speed sensor so that the mileage wouldn't add up while in use. It shifted harsh in default mode and "the person" had to disconnect the battery for a bit to make the check engine light go out shortly before returning it and after plugging the sensor back in but it worked. Long time ago.
You should get you a used truck from the AK North Slope, high engine hours and low miles on many of them as they never turn them off at certain times of the year.
Well if you hunt and fish, ride snow mobile, sxs out west in multiple states and in Canada pretty easy to put 30 k on a year. That is if you actually get out and hunt and fish and do things. I put over 5 k just bird hunting with dogs every year
one day a week trips to dollar general and Walmart or the stock trout and cat fish pond in the holler don't add to much mileage
It is very, very simple to mess around with the milage on modern vehicles. Cash is King had the right idea with the key turns, but those can be faked too. If you can tune a modern vehicle, you can mess with the mileage.
I ain’t like a gazillion other dumbfukks that run up miles on their pickups going to the county fair to eat cotton candy or Taco bell runs, driving to pottery classes at night.
My truck is for big, or serious biz usually pulling a trailer.
Well if you hunt and fish, ride snow mobile, sxs out west in multiple states and in Canada pretty easy to put 30 k on a year. That is if you actually get out and hunt and fish and do things. I put over 5 k just bird hunting with dogs every year
one day a week trips to dollar general and Walmart or the stock trout and cat fish pond in the holler don't add to much mileage
Well if you hunt and fish, ride snow mobile, sxs out west in multiple states and in Canada pretty easy to put 30 k on a year. That is if you actually get out and hunt and fish and do things. I put over 5 k just bird hunting with dogs every year
one day a week trips to dollar general and Walmart or the stock trout and cat fish pond in the holler don't add to much mileage
Got fugked on a POS 2019 F-150 recently. Has 70k miles on it. After I got it home and playing with all the features I was scrolling through the info available on the dash screen the engine hours comes up. 5500hrs total, 2500 at idle.
Got fugked on a POS 2019 F-150 recently. Has 70k miles on it. After I got it home and playing with all the features I was scrolling through the info available on the dash screen the engine hours comes up. 5500hrs total, 2500 at idle.
Now days anytime you get something done to the vehicle the mileage goes into a database, we have to have emissions, so if someone tampered it would show up under the last recorded mileage, it would be an issue with the title transfer.
Kent
Some folks do all their own maintenance and repair, and own the truck for twenty years. Nor do we have emissions testing.
Such is the case with the one earlier mentioned running a newer odometer from a different used truck.
My 2003 Ram just turned 125 K - but then it was basically parked for 8 years while we were in the Arctic but it's been Outside twice, also. That's about 10K each...
I ain’t like a gazillion other dumbfukks that run up miles on their pickups going to the county fair to eat cotton candy or Taco bell runs, driving to pottery classes at night.
My truck is for big, or serious biz usually pulling a trailer.
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Lots of little things about a vehicle can show amount of use and possible milage. At a glance, interior wear or the amount of rubber worn off a brake or clutch pedal can be quick reference points.
I have plenty of issues with equipment I own that don't get used enough but show low hours and milage.
RVs, outboard motors, motorcycles.
The crappy gas we have today is destructive as all hell left sitting in carburetors and injectors, bearings can just rust away, rodent chewed wiring can be common.
Low milage isn't necessarily the greatest thing, it don't mean it's a instant prize.
In the early 2000s ford f150s, you could pull a fuse and the dash would go off. You didn't know how fast you were going or how much gas you had left, but it also stopped the odometer. Put the fuse back in every now and then to check the gas level. my buddies truck probably had 3 times the miles than odometer read.
Just over 80k in my 2016 f-150 also use my 1995 tacoma with 251k. Don't want to ever have have to buy a new full size pu again. So the other day I picked up a clean 2003 Pontiac Bonneville with a 120k on it cheap. It's cost was a tradeoff on depreciation of the f-150. Nice highway and around town car...mb
I worked for a guy around 40 years ago, he had a truck there he was going to sell, but first he had the drill in reverse hooked up to the speedo cable, for days....he was a prick.
How resistant are odometers from being set back nowadays? I've been cruising used pickup ads on farcebook marketplace...some of these listed odo readings seem awfully low to me. 15 yr old pickups with 80k on them? C'mon man. We live in a pretty rural area, folks don't think much of going a hundred miles to dinner and a movie.
I was wondering the same thing awhile back, so I googled it. Saw a youtube video showing a young asian guy rolling back the odometer using some type of phone app/computer connection. Also it was alluded that car dealers have it done routinely; or it gets done by the auction places unbeknownst to the dealer wink wink.
In the early 2000s ford f150s, you could pull a fuse and the dash would go off. You didn't know how fast you were going or how much gas you had left, but it also stopped the odometer. Put the fuse back in every now and then to check the gas level. my buddies truck probably had 3 times the miles than odometer read.
On my 92 F250 4x4 diesel you could pull the speedometer fuse real quick before the trip mileage got to 9.6 and the miles wouldn't show up on the odometer. Your a damn fool to buy a used diesel pickup unless you meet the original owner or it's a certified used truck by a dealer. Even more so now with all the emissions BS.
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Roy the Rapper said it best...
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However, an experienced person could pretty much know if the readings are legit or not. There are certain telltale signs.
Also, there are certain things one can check; ie. State inspection reports, which record mileage, presuming it is done properly.
Toughest argument against odometer tampering is the vehicle manufacturer's tracking systems on your vehicle. They can see in real time many aspects of your vehicle's performance, including current mileage.
If you pushed in and held the trip button on my old Crown Vic - would give the idle hours.
IIRC when I bought it - 2100 so pretty low for a cop car. Never had a lick of trouble with the engine.
Those were some good cars regardless of what Deflave says. Well built, and last for your money's worth
198,000 miles on it and the doors/everything shut as tight as day 1. Amazing car. All black, former detectives car for Chippewa County. LOVED that thing. Felt like Heinz Guderian going down the road in a panzer. Just knew you were in a tank that's gonna get you home.
If you pushed in and held the trip button on my old Crown Vic - would give the idle hours.
IIRC when I bought it - 2100 so pretty low for a cop car. Never had a lick of trouble with the engine.
Those were some good cars regardless of what Deflave says. Well built, and last for your money's worth
198,000 miles on it and the doors/everything shut as tight as day 1. Amazing car. All black, former detectives car for Chippewa County. LOVED that thing. Felt like Heinz Guderian going down the road in a panzer. Just knew you were in a tank that's gonna get you home.
I have a 2002 Dodge 4X4...just turned 40,000 miles. Other than a few commutes on roads during snow storms, it's spent it's entire life on my property, hauling firewood, dragging logs, carting Deer, etc. I put a gallon or two of gas in it every couple weeks when the light comes on the dash. It has no rust because it doesn't see road salt. It should last me the rest of my days.
Geno, As much as you like to drive in the creek, I'm surprised you don't have an amphibious of some sort.
I have considered finding a low mileage Amphicar many times.
Always keep a fishin' pole in the back seat with a good slow trolling lure attached. Maybe catch dinner.
Keerist...just blew coffee on the keyboard. You might have a few faults, so your wife tells me...but by God you got one hell of a sense of humor. PS. Last time I was through the burg of Ingot, the locals are raising money for a Geno statue.
How resistant are odometers from being set back nowadays? I've been cruising used pickup ads on farcebook marketplace...some of these listed odo readings seem awfully low to me. 15 yr old pickups with 80k on them? C'mon man. We live in a pretty rural area, folks don't think much of going a hundred miles to dinner and a movie.
I have a 1998 Ford Explorer Sport 4x4 that has less than 60,000 miles on it and I've owned it since new. It was my wife's car before she passed. Literally driven by a little old lady just to church and the store. Such gems do exist if you look long enough. PJ
I used to buy/sell pre-smog 4x4 diesels privately. About the only way you gonna find a low mile cream puff is if you buy from original owner - local ads or Cl etc OR from a full blown badged dealer who get em in on trade in by the same original owner ( more common now with all scammers and fear due to age of sellers). Many flippers like me would roll em over on ebay at profit. A car fax will tell you alot as miles are recorded on registrations since new. The gypsys and russians in the PNW are scum bags and do all sorts of crazy stuff swapping ecm and instrument panels but those types of rigs are easy to spot. Plus never buy from one of them in first place. I have a simple obd2 programmer and I can change the electonic mileage on my 2104 ram in a jiffy. There is a state or two in midwest that 6 yrs ago would wash titles from salvage to non. Think Illiniois or michigan? been out of it since then. anyhow thats where flood cars would go to get re-registered. It is not hard to find a super low mile 4x4 or 2x4 truck if you work at it.
In June I flew with my dad to Idaho to buy a 1965 Ford Galaxy 500XL. This was a one owner car all original and garaged its entire life and it had 44,000 original miles…documented miles. The 1965 Galaxy 500XL was the first new vehicle mom and dad bought when they were first married. Dad had just returned from 4 years overseas in the army and the army was offering serious re-up bonuses and dad was seriously considering signing up for another 4 years. Mom and dad were sweethearts since 7th grade so mom knew dad’s weakness was cars. Mom said to dad that they should go look at new cars to which dad quickly agreed. They bought their first new car together because mom knew dad wouldn’t re-up if he had a new car….he didn’t. With mom gone now and dad trying to fill his days and stay busy I suggested, after dad showed me the ad, that I’ll accompany him and arrange everything including the flights if he wanted that car. I expected him to hem and haw and fret the details but he jumped at the chance. We flew over bought the car and drove it home that day. He spends his days washing it and waxing it and listening to the ballgame just like I remember.
Now dad can go for a drive with mom…..or at least he can pretend that he’s driving with mom riding shotgun like she had for 52 years.
In June I flew with my dad to Idaho to buy a 1965 Ford Galaxy 500XL. This was a one owner car all original and garaged its entire life and it had 44,000 original miles…documented miles. The 1965 Galaxy 500XL was the first new vehicle mom and dad bought when they were first married. Dad had just returned from 4 years overseas in the army and the army was offering serious re-up bonuses and dad was seriously considering signing up for another 4 years. Mom and dad were sweethearts since 7th grade so mom knew dad’s weakness was cars. Mom said to dad that they should go look at new cars to which dad quickly agreed. They bought their first new car together because mom knew dad wouldn’t re-up if he had a new car….he didn’t. With mom gone now and dad trying to fill his days and stay busy I suggested, after dad showed me the ad, that I’ll accompany him and arrange everything including the flights if he wanted that car. I expected him to hem and haw and fret the details but he jumped at the chance. We flew over bought the car and drove it home that day. He spends his days washing it and waxing it and listening to the ballgame just like I remember.
Now dad can go for a drive with mom…..or at least he can pretend that he’s driving with mom riding shotgun like she had for 52 years.
In June I flew with my dad to Idaho to buy a 1965 Ford Galaxy 500XL. This was a one owner car all original and garaged its entire life and it had 44,000 original miles…documented miles. The 1965 Galaxy 500XL was the first new vehicle mom and dad bought when they were first married. Dad had just returned from 4 years overseas in the army and the army was offering serious re-up bonuses and dad was seriously considering signing up for another 4 years. Mom and dad were sweethearts since 7th grade so mom knew dad’s weakness was cars. Mom said to dad that they should go look at new cars to which dad quickly agreed. They bought their first new car together because mom knew dad wouldn’t re-up if he had a new car….he didn’t. With mom gone now and dad trying to fill his days and stay busy I suggested, after dad showed me the ad, that I’ll accompany him and arrange everything including the flights if he wanted that car. I expected him to hem and haw and fret the details but he jumped at the chance. We flew over bought the car and drove it home that day. He spends his days washing it and waxing it and listening to the ballgame just like I remember.
Now dad can go for a drive with mom…..or at least he can pretend that he’s driving with mom riding shotgun like she had for 52 years.
I don't sell them, I just give them away. I start thinking about getting rid of a vehicle when its hitting about 350 to 400K... Always goes to someone in need...I've never have let a vehicle go, because it wasn't running... just starting to get high miles on it...
Buy em used, sometimes needing a little work, which I take care of... Drive mainly Toyotas and Hondas for the last 25 to 30 years...
Oldest one I've kept and the last vehicle I bought NEW, is my 88 4Runner...she's awfully close to 600,000 on it now.. Still runs fine... I'd have no problem getting in it and driving it to the east coast and back, minus the fuel prices...its a 20 mpg vehicle.. 2200RE motor.. 5 speed manual....I just don't drive it in snow and road salt....she doesn't get taken into that environment... in another 80K, my 06 Pilot I'll start having to think about retiring her....she'll have 400K on it... my 08 Camry and 2011 Tacoma, they only have like around 170 K on them...they'll probably out last me...
I really don't want any of these newer cars, with all the BS they keep putting on them, to make it more expensive to run them...
I could go out and buy a new vehicle.. but WTF for? they don't do anything that what I currently have can't....
Refer to the F'N ex wife Threat... I've learned to go thru life pretty darn frugally... and not a thing in this entire world is in my name... I own nothing......
Easy if the dash is digital and most are today. Buy the plug in kit from China....Friend needed a whole new dash on an expensive car he was restoring. He found one, however the miles were much higher than his original. Installed the new dash, hooked up the plug-in which wanted to be coded to his particular vehicle and dialed in his wanted milage.
I suspect he isn't the only one that found a way....
In June I flew with my dad to Idaho to buy a 1965 Ford Galaxy 500XL. This was a one owner car all original and garaged its entire life and it had 44,000 original miles…documented miles. The 1965 Galaxy 500XL was the first new vehicle mom and dad bought when they were first married. Dad had just returned from 4 years overseas in the army and the army was offering serious re-up bonuses and dad was seriously considering signing up for another 4 years. Mom and dad were sweethearts since 7th grade so mom knew dad’s weakness was cars. Mom said to dad that they should go look at new cars to which dad quickly agreed. They bought their first new car together because mom knew dad wouldn’t re-up if he had a new car….he didn’t. With mom gone now and dad trying to fill his days and stay busy I suggested, after dad showed me the ad, that I’ll accompany him and arrange everything including the flights if he wanted that car. I expected him to hem and haw and fret the details but he jumped at the chance. We flew over bought the car and drove it home that day. He spends his days washing it and waxing it and listening to the ballgame just like I remember.
Now dad can go for a drive with mom…..or at least he can pretend that he’s driving with mom riding shotgun like she had for 52 years.
In June I flew with my dad to Idaho to buy a 1965 Ford Galaxy 500XL. This was a one owner car all original and garaged its entire life and it had 44,000 original miles…documented miles. The 1965 Galaxy 500XL was the first new vehicle mom and dad bought when they were first married. Dad had just returned from 4 years overseas in the army and the army was offering serious re-up bonuses and dad was seriously considering signing up for another 4 years. Mom and dad were sweethearts since 7th grade so mom knew dad’s weakness was cars. Mom said to dad that they should go look at new cars to which dad quickly agreed. They bought their first new car together because mom knew dad wouldn’t re-up if he had a new car….he didn’t. With mom gone now and dad trying to fill his days and stay busy I suggested, after dad showed me the ad, that I’ll accompany him and arrange everything including the flights if he wanted that car. I expected him to hem and haw and fret the details but he jumped at the chance. We flew over bought the car and drove it home that day. He spends his days washing it and waxing it and listening to the ballgame just like I remember.
Now dad can go for a drive with mom…..or at least he can pretend that he’s driving with mom riding shotgun like she had for 52 years.
Give me a good selling price. Son has a 2007 silverado standard cab, 122k, 5.3L, 4×4, towing package with electric brakes. Owned by my father, me and now my son. Has a little rust on bumper, and lower rocker panels. Otherwise body and paint are A+. New tires, battery and stainless brake lines all around. Kbb is giving me $10k for private party. Trying to talk the boy into keeping it, but he's not listening. I think he can get more than kbb, but I don't know.
Give me a good selling price. Son has a 2007 silverado standard cab, 122k, 5.3L, 4×4, towing package with electric brakes. Owned by my father, me and now my son. Has a little rust on bumper, and lower rocker panels. Otherwise body and paint are A+. New tires, battery and stainless brake lines all around. Kbb is giving me $10k for private party. Trying to talk the boy into keeping it, but he's not listening. I think he can get more than kbb, but I don't know.
I don't sell them, I just give them away. I start thinking about getting rid of a vehicle when its hitting about 350 to 400K... Always goes to someone in need...I've never have let a vehicle go, because it wasn't running... just starting to get high miles on it...
Buy em used, sometimes needing a little work, which I take care of... Drive mainly Toyotas and Hondas for the last 25 to 30 years...
Oldest one I've kept and the last vehicle I bought NEW, is my 88 4Runner...she's awfully close to 600,000 on it now.. Still runs fine... I'd have no problem getting in it and driving it to the east coast and back, minus the fuel prices...its a 20 mpg vehicle.. 2200RE motor.. 5 speed manual....I just don't drive it in snow and road salt....she doesn't get taken into that environment... in another 80K, my 06 Pilot I'll start having to think about retiring her....she'll have 400K on it... my 08 Camry and 2011 Tacoma, they only have like around 170 K on them...they'll probably out last me...
I really don't want any of these newer cars, with all the BS they keep putting on them, to make it more expensive to run them...
I could go out and buy a new vehicle.. but WTF for? they don't do anything that what I currently have can't....
Refer to the F'N ex wife Threat... I've learned to go thru life pretty darn frugally... and not a thing in this entire world is in my name... I own nothing......
I dont know what it is with those damm toyotas and hondas!! I am 6f t2in 320 lbs so I cant have one but with I could! I have a friend in Burns who has had a mid 2000's tunda, now with 300k, and the [bleep] has done NO repairs - just std maintentance.
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