Two questions.......
I see more and more photos of hunters showing a rifle with a supressosr. Are they the cool thing now?
On big guns they are barely less loud than a regular barrel. For sub-sonic they are fantastic. Who hunts
sub-sonic?
They are substantially less loud than a gun without one.
Lots of guys using subs for pigs at night among other uses.
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Boomer be like “whaddya say?”
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Bingo. I like shooting a .223 that sounds like a hot .22LR. I also like knocking a third of the recoil off a centerfire hunting recoil. And while it's true that something like a suppressed Creedmoor, 7mm-08, or .308 isn't "quiet", they are much nicer to shoot that the unsuppressed versions, especially in the field. I've had some 18" barreled rifles ring the heck out of my ears without a can in place.
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Bingo. I like shooting a .223 that sounds like a hot .22LR. I also like knocking a third of the recoil off a centerfire hunting recoil. And while it's true that something like a suppressed Creedmoor, 7mm-08, or .308 isn't "quiet", they are much nicer to shoot that the unsuppressed versions, especially in the field. I've had some 18" barreled rifles ring the heck out of my ears without a can in place.
That.
How come when someone mentions ears ringing your own ears start to ring?
If you've never shot a 22lr suppressed you are missing out.
Shot a 300bo the other day with supers and subs through one. A lot of fun. I plan to use subs around the yard, may try one out on a hog first. The supers werent much louder with the can....about like a 22lr. My ears sure thanked me.
Just picked up a bergara threaded 708, cant wait to try it out.
How come when someone mentions ears ringing your own ears start to ring?
My ears have been ringing, 24/7 non-stop since the Navy and I've been out 16 years now. It's worse when I'm stressed (BP is high) and so loud some nights, I can't sleep.
Ringing sucks big time. AFAIK - no cure.
How come when someone mentions ears ringing your own ears start to ring?
Thanks and shut the hell up!
If you've never shot a 22lr suppressed you are missing out.
^^^ Truth
I forgot about the .22LR stuff. Very nice to be able to have rimfire rifle and pistol practice in the yard without earpro and the folks in the house never hear the shot. The kids really take to the rimfire stuff and hearing the bullets hit the target.
On big guns they are barely less loud than a regular barrel.
Wrong.
They don't sound like a James Bond movie "Pfft", but they cut the Db's considerably.
You really ought to do your homework better.
IMO the supersonic crack is overrated, at least to the shooter or those behind him. When shooting supersonic I don’t hear the dramatically louder sound compared to subsonic that some expect.
I've got enough weight in the woods. Adding two pounds and eight inches to rifle while climbing mountains and trying to walk through dark timber chasing elk is not worth it to me. Midwest in a deer stand is a different story and definitely would be appealing.
There are several 6-7" centerfire cans out there that are 13-15oz now and sub-$700. More money can buy even lighter weight for a hunting setup.
There are several 6-7" centerfire cans out there that are 13-15oz now and sub-$700. More money can buy even lighter weight for a hunting setup.
But.... I do get that some cases don't really benefit as much as others. This is true.
More money can buy even lighter weight for a hunting setup.
If only there were a member here who knows a lot about light cans and likes money....
I've got enough weight in the woods. Adding two pounds and eight inches to rifle while climbing mountains and trying to walk through dark timber chasing elk is not worth it to me. Midwest in a deer stand is a different story and definitely would be appealing.
While I cant speak on the 8inches, two pounds is the equivalent of skipping a meal or two in most cases or dieting a week. My can has an adapter where it quicker goes on and off. Dont have to walk around with it on all the time.
My sons suppressed 22 makes virtually no noise, except for the action cycling.
Its my understanding that on centerfires ( non subsonic) the noise is still above the level where hearing protection should be worn. Yes the noise is less than non suppressed, but still potentially harmful to your hearing.
My sons suppressed 22 makes virtually no noise, except for the action cycling.
Its my understanding that on centerfires ( non subsonic) the noise is still above the level where hearing protection should be worn. Yes the noise is less than non suppressed, but still potentially harmful to your hearing.
You are correct, if you were doing a lot of it earplugs would be a good idea. But you hear stuff ever day that is just as loud as the supersonic round through a suppressor, I'd imagine most folks dont put on ear protection when they are hammering in a nail.
My sons suppressed 22 makes virtually no noise, except for the action cycling.
Its my understanding that on centerfires ( non subsonic) the noise is still above the level where hearing protection should be worn. Yes the noise is less than non suppressed, but still potentially harmful to your hearing.
You are correct, if you were doing a lot of it earplugs would be a good idea. But you hear stuff ever day that is just as loud as the supersonic round through a suppressor, I'd imagine most folks dont put on ear protection when they are hammering in a nail.
This is my experience. ~25-30dbs reduction depending on the cartridge/load/barrel length. The real lack of flash at night works well with IR / thermal.
Two questions.......
I see more and more photos of hunters showing a rifle with a supressosr. Are they the cool thing now?
On big guns they are barely less loud than a regular barrel. For sub-sonic they are fantastic. Who hunts
sub-sonic?
. You’re totally missing it. By a mile in fact. But to your credit not very many talk about it. Imagine about a 75% reduction in recoil? How about essentially no blast? How about spotting hits in the scope now? It’s not just about noise. Which is cut way way back Subsonic or otherwise. Every rifle I have suppressed has been more accurate by a very noticeable amount. I started with only my ARs suppressed. Now every bolt gun I have is threaded. I don’t want to shoot anything that is not suppressed. I just ordered my 6th can now. Once you go suppressed you don’t go back
I don’t carry mine up the mountain elk hunting but for dinking around home hunting pigs and varmints where volume of fire is much higher and I’m not walking more than a couple miles I find the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
How come when someone mentions ears ringing your own ears start to ring?
My ears have been ringing, 24/7 non-stop since the Navy and I've been out 16 years now. It's worse when I'm stressed (BP is high) and so loud some nights, I can't sleep.
Ringing sucks big time. AFAIK - no cure.
I got out of the Navy 15 years ago, my ears were ringing the last year or so and still do to this day. Had substantial hearing loss too but they said it was still within acceptable limits. My wife disagrees with them cause I can't hear [bleep] lol
I only shoot suppressed now, same with the kids. It's makes a huge difference, even when shooting supersonic
Once you go suppressed you don’t go back
I purchased a Thunder Beast 9. When I bought it, I put my son-in-law on the government blackmail paper. The only real value to me was a .22 LR. It's in his possesion now.
All my rifles have brakes. They do a way better job of recoil reduction. When I hunt I use electronic hearing muffs. I see the bullet impacts.
At the range I use pugs and ear muffs.
For sub-sonic they are fantastic. Who hunts
sub-sonic?
I hunt with subs all the time...
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Bingo. I like shooting a .223 that sounds like a hot .22LR. I also like knocking a third of the recoil off a centerfire hunting recoil. And while it's true that something like a suppressed Creedmoor, 7mm-08, or .308 isn't "quiet", they are much nicer to shoot that the unsuppressed versions, especially in the field. I've had some 18" barreled rifles ring the heck out of my ears without a can in place.
Yep... You cannot imagine how much BETTER you will shoot with a can. No noise and better groups.
I'm sincerely proud for you young guys. Between gunshots, outboard motors and sirens, I can barely hear any of them.
Do the best you can to protect your hearing.
You will regret not being able to hear your grandchildren.
I want to find out, I get to "visit" mine ever so often, but the ATF has mine in bondage at the moment and probably will for another 10-12 months. Just 3 months in but already ticked at .gov.
On big guns they are barely less loud than a regular barrel.
Wrong.
They don't sound like a James Bond movie "Pfft", but they cut the Db's considerably.
You really ought to do your homework better.
This is true especially see how decibels work and at how much noise is reduced just by muffling the decibels a few points.
Also the quality of suppressors can vary largely from manufacturer to manufacturer. Each company builds their suppressors differently so each produce will have different results.
I've got a lot of hearing loss and as a bonus I hear REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 24 hours a friggin' day.
I decided I didn't want to lose any more of the hearing I have left so I invested in a couple of cans, Best decision I ever made.
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Boomer be like “whaddya say?”
Some boomers already have half a dozen suppressors and hear better than most millenials.
On big guns they are barely less loud than a regular barrel.
Wrong.
They don't sound like a James Bond movie "Pfft", but they cut the Db's considerably.
You really ought to do your homework better.
To add:
With subs, you can actually get "Pfft" out of some guns, especially .22's.
Two questions.......
Who hunts sub-sonic?
Sneezes are better than bangs when plinkin' pigs.
Old codgers will not get it or change their ways. [bleep] boomers…..
Brakes can do damage to hearing as well, even with muffs. Has something to do with concussive transfer through the cheekbone to ear canal….or some schidt like that.
I shoot and hunt with suppressors because they make the shooting experience “nicer”, doesn’t spook game to the extent a louden-boomer would, allowing follow ups on groups of targets and they are [bleep] cool 😎 .
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Boomer be like “whaddya say?”
Some boomers already have half a dozen suppressors and hear better than most millenials.
Hahahaha 🤣
A half a dozen is nothing, and boomers can't hear or learn for schitt
Two questions.......
Who hunts sub-sonic?
Sneezes are better than bangs when plinkin' pigs.
Very cool... what is that caliber?
Old codgers will not get it or change their ways. [bleep] boomers…..
Brakes can do damage to hearing as well, even with muffs. Has something to do with concussive transfer through the cheekbone to ear canal….or some schidt like that.
I shoot and hunt with suppressors because they make the shooting experience “nicer”, doesn’t spook game to the extent a louden-boomer would, allowing follow ups on groups of targets and they are [bleep] cool 😎 .
[bleep] boomers, why would you say that?
Two questions.......
Who hunts sub-sonic?
Sneezes are better than bangs when plinkin' pigs.
Very cool... what is that caliber?
.308 in a .357 case it is, known as the .30 Sneezer. It likes one hole groups a lot.
Because decent men respect their elders?
.308 in a .357 case it is, known as the .30 Sneezer. It likes one hole groups a lot.
Nice...
Old codgers will not get it or change their ways. [bleep] boomers…..
Brakes can do damage to hearing as well, even with muffs. Has something to do with concussive transfer through the cheekbone to ear canal….or some schidt like that.
I shoot and hunt with suppressors because they make the shooting experience “nicer”, doesn’t spook game to the extent a louden-boomer would, allowing follow ups on groups of targets and they are [bleep] cool 😎 .
Some off us did not have the hearing protection options, boomers
Old codgers will not get it or change their ways. [bleep] boomers…..
Brakes can do damage to hearing as well, even with muffs. Has something to do with concussive transfer through the cheekbone to ear canal….or some schidt like that.
I shoot and hunt with suppressors because they make the shooting experience “nicer”, doesn’t spook game to the extent a louden-boomer would, allowing follow ups on groups of targets and they are [bleep] cool 😎 .
Some off us did not have the hearing protection options, boomers
If you were born before 1945 (boomer range '45-65) you get a pass.
Glad that the blank blank USA has finally made suppressed mainstream for our military, to bad not for it's citizens
Old codgers will not get it or change their ways. [bleep] boomers…..
Brakes can do damage to hearing as well, even with muffs. Has something to do with concussive transfer through the cheekbone to ear canal….or some schidt like that.
I shoot and hunt with suppressors because they make the shooting experience “nicer”, doesn’t spook game to the extent a louden-boomer would, allowing follow ups on groups of targets and they are [bleep] cool 😎 .
Some off us did not have the hearing protection options, boomers
If you were born before 1945 (boomer range) you get a pass.
your boomer range is off
Once you go suppressed you don’t go back
I purchased a Thunder Beast 9. When I bought it, I put my son-in-law on the government blackmail paper. The only real value to me was a .22 LR. It's in his possesion now.
All my rifles have brakes. They do a way better job of recoil reduction. When I hunt I use electronic hearing muffs. I see the bullet impacts.
At the range I use pugs and ear muffs.
are you actually trying to kid with me? your would rather wonder around the woods with muffs on? seriously? I wouldn't. I guess I dunnno what to say about that. a brake doing a better job of recoil reduction? I simply disagree emphatically. in fact I think if you need to have a brake on your rifle, you're shooting too much cartridge. F brakes, I hate it when people have them on rifles at the range. it sends a blast concussion across the entire shooting benches. IMO a 22LR is one of the most disappointing things to suppress. I have a 10-22 that suppression doesn't actually help much with. but I have a M&P 22 compact pistol that is quiter than a nail gun suppressed. its because the same ammo can't hit supersonic from the pistol but does from the rifle. kinda weird like that.
I have a 17 fireball that, you can actually see the ripple of the coyotes body through the scope when it takes a hit from the hydrostatic shock. an ultra 9 is a very large suppressor. since you bought it, the movement has been toward shorter and fatter cans. while I have a sico harvester 300 that is almost that long. I can see why a guy wouldn't want to tote it on a hunting rig if they have to carry the rifle very far. I have an ultra 5 for that, small and light weight, enough suppression to knock the sound and recoil way down, I also have a TBAC dominus if I want more suppression.
I would suggest giving the can another try on some different guns. cans aren't cheap, they end up being about $1000 for each one once the dust settles. but I flat out will not have a rifle that I own and shoot with any regularity uncanned. its that big of a difference across the board.
I shoot deer regularly with a suppresser since they became legal in Michigan....for shots under 70 yards....Cutting Edge Bullets 250 gr. .452 Handgun Raptor with a plastic tip in a Christensen Arms 450 Bushmaster doing just over 1000 fps....its so quiet you can hear the bullet impact....
I have shot bucks feeding that the other deer with them didn't run at the shot....
Suppressers are great for deer control shooting....I have shot several at under 50 yards using one....
That suppressors are regulated any stricter than lawn mower mufflers is just plain stupid.
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Boomer be like “whaddya say?”
Some boomers already have half a dozen suppressors and hear better than most millenials.
Hahahaha 🤣
A half a dozen is nothing, and boomers can't hear or learn for schitt
Careful. Your jealousy is eating at your brain again.
BTW- my grass needs mowing. Get your dick skinners around that lawn mower.
Lol.
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Boomer be like “whaddya say?”
Some boomers already have half a dozen suppressors and hear better than most millenials.
Hahahaha 🤣
A half a dozen is nothing, and boomers can't hear or learn for schitt
Learned enough to put several M away. How about you, dickless?
I think this is the first time I've seen where someone that bought a suppressor wasn't looking to buy at least one more.
I won't and don't shoot without one. The positive from using them far out weighs the negative.
I think this is the first time I've seen where someone that bought a suppressor wasn't looking to buy at least one more.
I won't and don't shoot without one. The positive from using them far out weighs the negative.
The OP is into muzzle breaks... The kind that deafen children in sound proof rooms 3 miles away.
He even tried to build his own and blew it all to hell.
I wish I could find the thread with that photo in it. It was hilarious!
I think this is the first time I've seen where someone that bought a suppressor wasn't looking to buy at least one more.
I won't and don't shoot without one. The positive from using them far out weighs the negative.
The OP is into muzzle breaks... The kind that deafen children in sound proof rooms 3 miles away.
He even tried to build his own and blew it all to hell.
I wish I could find the thread with that photo in it. It was hilarious!
There used to be a guy that came out to the local range who was one of these Nutty Professor types, thinking he was going to get rich off of some muzzle break he was experimenting with. He would come out, take two or three shots, and pack up and leave. Nut bag.
My suppressors all have Muzzle Brakes, you would be surprised how Quiet and almost no recoil.
Not a great picture but look close and you can see the Brake, they do add about 1 1/4" to your over all barrel length . Rio7
I wish they had supressors for a shotgun. I blew out my hearing in the 70's trap shooting without hearing protection. Didn't know any better. Now I have 75% hearing loss in both ears.
I wish they had supressors for a shotgun. I blew out my hearing in the 70's trap shooting without hearing protection. Didn't know any better. Now I have 75% hearing loss in both ears.
They do.
Sico makes shotgun cans. They are huge though
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Boomer be like “whaddya say?”
Some boomers already have half a dozen suppressors and hear better than most millenials.
Hahahaha 🤣
A half a dozen is nothing, and boomers can't hear or learn for schitt
Learned enough to put several M away. How about you, dickless?
Oh? Hit a nerve did I Boomer?
Tell us, did you learn from the time you left a Glock in a public restroom and drove off without it?
Tell us, how far did you drive before going back to ask if anyone found it?
One in hand, two in the pipeline.
Best money you can spend on hunting and shooting IMO
^^^
Yes, Only sweat pant wearing, mouth-breathing, Old Milwaukee swillin' rednecks shoot un-suppressed anymore...If I never shoot another round without a can , it will be just fine with me. I wont be without one.
To be able to kill you own food is one thing, to be able to kill well, is another level. To be able to kill well, silently....well that just makes one smile.
Because decent men respect their elders?
Respect is earned, not doled out like welfare. You should know that, Officer.
I’m no spring chicken and my father is technically a boomer.
Maybe I shouldn’t throw all boomers in the same group, but the old farts on this site sure make it easy.
BOOM ON!!
Yes they’re cool, hearing aids are not.
Boomer be like “whaddya say?”
Some boomers already have half a dozen suppressors and hear better than most millenials.
Hahahaha 🤣
A half a dozen is nothing, and boomers can't hear or learn for schitt
Learned enough to put several M away. How about you, dickless?
Oh? Hit a nerve did I Boomer?
Tell us, did you learn from the time you left a Glock in a public restroom and drove off without it?
Tell us, how far did you drive before going back to ask if anyone found it?
Have you moved out of mommy's yet or you still punching holes in the single wide? Get a job? Are you back with your "wife"?
Happy to play along, Brokedick.
I never had anything against you, but if you want to take a swipe at me simply because I'm a boomer, you better put your big boy pants on, dude.