So polaris has put out an electric side by side called the kinetic. Supposedly 45 miles of range with the premium model and 80 with the ultimate model. It is being advertised as the strongest ranger they have ever created in terms of towing, hauling, etc.. The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.
I love the idea of electric in regards to reduced noise. suppose to be less maintenance, no fumes. I will only be hunting and a small amount of trail riding, working at the hunt club. I am heavily considering ordering one from my local dealer. Has anyone seen one of these or have any thoughts on this new model? Trying to do my due diligence but not much info out there yet about this utv. Thanks
Interesting, haven't heard of these yet but not surprised to see them hit the market.
My question is how well will it do in severe winter weather? Tesla's lose range real fast when it gets below 40*, how is this going to do when people take it hunting at 0* weather??
How is that 45 mile range calculated? Flat land? Sea level? Maximum load? When we're out trail riding, we routinely get close to 45 miles in a day and we're in places where I guarantee you won't find a charging station.
I myself wouldn't buy one rather stay with gas operated.
Not much use in an off-grid camp like we use. We have a genny but it only gets run 2 hours in the evening.
Rock, I wouldn't think altitude would affect electric rigs.
I've heard those things will run fast enough to scare the @*!# out of you.
For me it has 2 strikes against it -
1. Polaris
2. Electric off road
I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.
Aunt had an electric ATV up at the Colorado ranch. Her personal rig. Don’t know what brand it was. I used it a couple of times. It was not used real heavy like. She just went back and forth, Ranch HQ, big house, guest house, and such. I generally used a Kawasaki when I was out doing fence repair. I do know she could sneak up on you with that thing! It was really quiet!!! 🤣
I have an all terrain golf cart already.
No thanks at $25k...
No thx.......
No charging stations out here
For me it has 2 strikes against it -
1. Polaris
2. Electric off road
I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.
I'll give you another strike - weight - 2,000 pounds.
You can purchase a good condition "street legal" 2011 Jeep Wrangler 4 door with A/C and heat for $20,000. I don't understand the side by side craze.
Make sure you bring along plenty of hot dogs and marshmallows for when the fuqqer burns to the ground. $25,000.00 that's insane.
I certainly hope Polaris figured out how to fix their electrical woes with it being electric and all.
My question is how well will it do in severe winter weather? Tesla's lose range real fast when it gets below 40*, how is this going to do when people take it hunting at 0* weather??
From the company, which is hard to know if accurate, has been tested a bunch in cold and severe weather. With me mainly hunting in NC with a week in Ohio in November not something I am too concerned with for my purposes. Fair question for sure thanks for the reply.
How is that 45 mile range calculated? Flat land? Sea level? Maximum load? When we're out trail riding, we routinely get close to 45 miles in a day and we're in places where I guarantee you won't find a charging station.
"Mixed terrain" but I am sure from the company it does not include climbing mountains for sure. I will be using it mainly in flat NC though.
Electric golf carts don't do so well in flooded rice fields. I'm imagining this won't either.
For me it has 2 strikes against it -
1. Polaris
2. Electric off road
I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.
Thanks for the reply. Never owned a Polaris personally and the first run of any type of vehicle is a concern for sure.
Aunt had an electric ATV up at the Colorado ranch. Her personal rig. Don’t know what brand it was. I used it a couple of times. It was not used real heavy like. She just went back and forth, Ranch HQ, big house, guest house, and such. I generally used a Kawasaki when I was out doing fence repair. I do know she could sneak up on you with that thing! It was really quiet!!! 🤣
Quiet is the main driving point for me thanks for the reply.
Not much use in an off-grid camp like we use. We have a genny but it only gets run 2 hours in the evening.
Agreed not a good rig for that use.
I have an all terrain golf cart already.
No thanks at $25k...
I have looked into this route as well. May still look into it further 25k is dang hard to swallow. I will say though the Kinetic at 25K is on par with other 1000 series side by sides new nowadays and supposedly with the HP and torque the electric gives it it would pull a similar gas rig 1000 series around backward.
I could build one hell of a 4wd golf cart for cheaper for sure.
No thx.......
No charging stations out here
Great pic and agreed no good out there.
I think I’ll stick with gasoline powered vehicles until there are none. And by then , I’ll be gone too.
For me it has 2 strikes against it -
1. Polaris
2. Electric off road
I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.
I'll give you another strike - weight - 2,000 pounds.
You can purchase a good condition "street legal" 2011 Jeep Wrangler 4 door with A/C and heat for $20,000. I don't understand the side by side craze.
Sorry but bad comparison. 2011 Jeep wrangler weighs 3800-4800lbs according to Jeep specs on the internet. Kinetic is 1730lbs estimate. Plus is gas / loud. Whole point is something I can drive offroad as quiet as possible and not tear up the farm fields like the Jeep would.
Make sure you bring along plenty of hot dogs and marshmallows for when the fuqqer burns to the ground. $25,000.00 that's insane.
Great reply thanks point well taken. If i do buy one and that happens I will absolutely take pics of me roasting hot dogs over it and post it here. Thanks again.
Scott
Like everything prices will come down as the technology advances. Polaris has had a model called the EV out for a while and I’ve heard good things about it.
I love the idea of an electric UTV. I tried to go the golf cart route with a lift and mud tires but it didn’t do real well - and my roads are in great shape all else considered.
But a reasonably priced heavier duty electric utv I would definitely try. My property is only 350 acres with power onsite so range isn’t much of a concern
First generation at $25k? I’ll stick with my current UTV and let others be the Guinea pig
The lack of range and the reliability question are deal breakers for me. The terrain I hunt is hilly in places, with Georgia red clay bottoms, and some creek crossings to get from one side of the lease to another. The creek crossings have been the nemesis of a couple of electric SXS's, including a Bad Boy that got water into the throttle controller. I didn't see it happen, but the look on the driver's face afterward told me it was a life changing experience. It apparently launched itself through the creek and down a gully on the other side before he could shut it off. Might have been some soiled underwear during his adventure.
The lack of range and the reliability question are deal breakers for me. The terrain I hunt is hilly in places, with Georgia red clay bottoms, and some creek crossings to get from one side of the lease to another. The creek crossings have been the nemesis of a couple of electric SXS's, including a Bad Boy that got water into the throttle controller. I didn't see it happen, but the look on the driver's face afterward told me it was a life changing experience. It apparently launched itself through the creek and down a gully on the other side before he could shut it off. Might have been some soiled underwear during his adventure.
Agreed these units will have to be well sealed electric and water are a bad mix. However I am sure it can be done there is a company in Texas called Vulcan i believe that makes electric off road vehicles including side by sides and motorcycles that the company says can actually run underwater.
The range issue is a concern as well but for my purposes I cant see running more than 20 miles away from the camp at any time
Feels like the golf cart builders have 3/4 of this code cracked already...am I wrong?
For me it has 2 strikes against it -
1. Polaris
2. Electric off road
I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.
I'll give you another strike - weight - 2,000 pounds.
You can purchase a good condition "street legal" 2011 Jeep Wrangler 4 door with A/C and heat for $20,000. I don't understand the side by side craze.
If you've ever jarred your teeth out of your head for a few hours on some mountain 2-track out west then you'd understand.
My 21 Ranger is pushing 2k lbs. No issue there.
Guys that think a Jeep is the way to go have zero clue.
The lack of range and the reliability question are deal breakers for me. The terrain I hunt is hilly in places, with Georgia red clay bottoms, and some creek crossings to get from one side of the lease to another. The creek crossings have been the nemesis of a couple of electric SXS's, including a Bad Boy that got water into the throttle controller. I didn't see it happen, but the look on the driver's face afterward told me it was a life changing experience. It apparently launched itself through the creek and down a gully on the other side before he could shut it off. Might have been some soiled underwear during his adventure.
Agreed these units will have to be well sealed electric and water are a bad mix. However I am sure it can be done there is a company in Texas called Vulcan i believe that makes electric off road vehicles including side by sides and motorcycles that the company says can actually run underwater.
The range issue is a concern as well but for my purposes I cant see running more than 20 miles away from the camp at any time
I can not find it but yesterday I just read a post on LinkedIn where someone got an EV as a work vehicle. Had it 6 weeks and basically called it out for junk.
XXX mile range at 100% charge, yet you were told to only charge to 80%. Even at 80% you got less than 1/2 the advertised range on the car. Charging was problematic and took forever. Much longer than advertised.
I know an EV car isn't the same as this but considering the billions spent by Tesla/VW/Ford/GM only to produce 1/2 of advertised - I'd be shocked that Polaris, somehow is ahead of them on EV tech with their 8.2b total revenue.
Just saying - Polaris might claim 45 miles, don't be shocked if it's 20.
As to the electric Ranger, I could see it being ok on a ranch with other UTV's that were gas powered.
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.
The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.
Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...
PT Barnum was right.
I bet they won't sell many like that.
Are there incentives for them to build electric ones like there are for autos?
I can see it being a pretty big market eventually.
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.
The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.
Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...
PT Barnum was right.
I bet they won't sell many like that.
Easy pass.
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.
The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.
Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...
PT Barnum was right.
I bet they won't sell many like that.
So you are comparing it to the 500?
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.
The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.
Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...
PT Barnum was right.
I bet they won't sell many like that.
No sir. The Polaris Ranger 1000 xp MSRP is $20,299 and weighs 1625lbs. The Kinetic MSRP 24,999 and weighs 1730lbs. All per the Polaris website you are way off in your numbers.
Also the 2022's were all sold out before they were available in stores due to pre-orders. According to a local dealer 2023 due to pre-orders are likely an 8 month wait time if I order today,
1625 dry if I remember right.
They have their uses. I’ve used the Polaris Ranger EV while guiding for an Illinois Whitetail outfitter. I like them so much I bought one at $13k new for use on my Georgia farm. They are way better in about every category other than price over a hyped up elec golf cart. They will carry 4 men and a 200 lb whitetail up a hill….no not a rocky 80degree snow covered mountain but I’ve seen it work on about a 45 degree incline in Pike Co Illinois. They charge quick, have tons of torque (3 gear ranges), quiet as a mouse, fast enough (25mph) decent range,etc
For my use I love the thing. When I bought it new a few years ago there was. $6k option for Li battery upgrade at $20k total. I opted not to get that battery package thinking when this regular battery set croaks in a few years I’ll upgrade to Li then.
For use around a hunting farm with access to electric they are great. If elec not available or running longer distance or paved roads I’d stay with gas.
Oh yeah, I guess Polaris reliability is hit/miss with some. I’ve owned this one, two ATVs, and snow mobiles made by Polaris and they all been as reliable or more reliable that other mfgs I have experience with.
FWIW….
110 hp
1,250 lbs in bed vs 1,000 for the gas
There are some pretty good things it has going for it.
Yes Polaris says it is the strongest Ranger it has ever made by far. Increased HP, increased bed capacity, increased towing capacity
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.
The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.
Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...
PT Barnum was right.
I bet they won't sell many like that.
So you are comparing it to the 500?
Was looking at this:
https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-sp-570/ vs This:
https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-xp-kinetic/Sorry if the comparison wasn't good... They look about the same to me. But if someone else were buying me one to have and keep, I'd still chose the gas model.
I would choose gas myself but the electrics are slowly catching up imho.
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.
The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.
Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...
PT Barnum was right.
I bet they won't sell many like that.
So you are comparing it to the 500?
Was looking at this:
https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-sp-570/ vs This:
https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-xp-kinetic/Sorry if the comparison wasn't good... They look about the same to me. But if someone else were buying me one to have and keep, I'd still chose the gas model.
No worries at all. The Ranger Kinetic is more on par with the 1000 series in regards to hauling, towing, bed capacity, HP however it actually exceeds the 1000 series in all of those categories as well. I was drawing my comparison to the Polaris Ranger 1000 xp gas model. I appreciate your time in replies its a lot to consider and all help is appreciated.
Scott
You lost me at Polaris.
You lost me at Polaris.
Had a Polaris 6x6 and ran it hard '14-'19 in really tough going. It was amazing. Repairs were constant and expensive, but it got things done.
Then CanAm entered the game and Polaris was no longer in it. In three years we have not used any of the spare axles we carry. The bearings are still good all around... Mine was just delivered last week. It is a serious machine.
You lost me at Polaris.
+1
Wait for a year until the reviews come in.....
You lost me at Polaris.
+1
I have a Polaris Ranger, atv and RMK never had a problem. Made in America too.
You lost me at Polaris.
Had a Polaris 6x6 and ran it hard '14-'19 in really tough going. It was amazing. Repairs were constant and expensive, but it got things done.
Then CanAm entered the game and Polaris was no longer in it. In three years we have not used any of the spare axles we carry. The bearings are still good all around... Mine was just delivered last week. It is a serious machine.
How has the Visco Lock front end worked out for you guys?
Sitka,
How's the visco lock front end holding up? No issues? Slip?
You lost me at Polaris.
And electric.