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Posted By: scotts308 Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
So polaris has put out an electric side by side called the kinetic. Supposedly 45 miles of range with the premium model and 80 with the ultimate model. It is being advertised as the strongest ranger they have ever created in terms of towing, hauling, etc.. The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.

I love the idea of electric in regards to reduced noise. suppose to be less maintenance, no fumes. I will only be hunting and a small amount of trail riding, working at the hunt club. I am heavily considering ordering one from my local dealer. Has anyone seen one of these or have any thoughts on this new model? Trying to do my due diligence but not much info out there yet about this utv. Thanks
Posted By: dye7barrel Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Interesting, haven't heard of these yet but not surprised to see them hit the market.
Posted By: gonehuntin Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
My question is how well will it do in severe winter weather? Tesla's lose range real fast when it gets below 40*, how is this going to do when people take it hunting at 0* weather??
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
How is that 45 mile range calculated? Flat land? Sea level? Maximum load? When we're out trail riding, we routinely get close to 45 miles in a day and we're in places where I guarantee you won't find a charging station.
Posted By: Riverc Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
I myself wouldn't buy one rather stay with gas operated.
Not much use in an off-grid camp like we use. We have a genny but it only gets run 2 hours in the evening.
Rock, I wouldn't think altitude would affect electric rigs.
I've heard those things will run fast enough to scare the @*!# out of you.
Posted By: Teal Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
For me it has 2 strikes against it -

1. Polaris
2. Electric off road

I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Aunt had an electric ATV up at the Colorado ranch. Her personal rig. Don’t know what brand it was. I used it a couple of times. It was not used real heavy like. She just went back and forth, Ranch HQ, big house, guest house, and such. I generally used a Kawasaki when I was out doing fence repair. I do know she could sneak up on you with that thing! It was really quiet!!! 🤣
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
I have an all terrain golf cart already.

No thanks at $25k...
Posted By: tikkanut Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
No thx.......

No charging stations out here

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Posted By: STRSWilson Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by Teal
For me it has 2 strikes against it -

1. Polaris
2. Electric off road

I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.


I'll give you another strike - weight - 2,000 pounds.

You can purchase a good condition "street legal" 2011 Jeep Wrangler 4 door with A/C and heat for $20,000. I don't understand the side by side craze.
Make sure you bring along plenty of hot dogs and marshmallows for when the fuqqer burns to the ground. $25,000.00 that's insane.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
I certainly hope Polaris figured out how to fix their electrical woes with it being electric and all.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
My question is how well will it do in severe winter weather? Tesla's lose range real fast when it gets below 40*, how is this going to do when people take it hunting at 0* weather??

From the company, which is hard to know if accurate, has been tested a bunch in cold and severe weather. With me mainly hunting in NC with a week in Ohio in November not something I am too concerned with for my purposes. Fair question for sure thanks for the reply.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
How is that 45 mile range calculated? Flat land? Sea level? Maximum load? When we're out trail riding, we routinely get close to 45 miles in a day and we're in places where I guarantee you won't find a charging station.

"Mixed terrain" but I am sure from the company it does not include climbing mountains for sure. I will be using it mainly in flat NC though.
Electric golf carts don't do so well in flooded rice fields. I'm imagining this won't either.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by Teal
For me it has 2 strikes against it -

1. Polaris
2. Electric off road

I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.

Thanks for the reply. Never owned a Polaris personally and the first run of any type of vehicle is a concern for sure.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Aunt had an electric ATV up at the Colorado ranch. Her personal rig. Don’t know what brand it was. I used it a couple of times. It was not used real heavy like. She just went back and forth, Ranch HQ, big house, guest house, and such. I generally used a Kawasaki when I was out doing fence repair. I do know she could sneak up on you with that thing! It was really quiet!!! 🤣


Quiet is the main driving point for me thanks for the reply.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by Wannabebwana
Not much use in an off-grid camp like we use. We have a genny but it only gets run 2 hours in the evening.


Agreed not a good rig for that use.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
I have an all terrain golf cart already.

No thanks at $25k...


I have looked into this route as well. May still look into it further 25k is dang hard to swallow. I will say though the Kinetic at 25K is on par with other 1000 series side by sides new nowadays and supposedly with the HP and torque the electric gives it it would pull a similar gas rig 1000 series around backward.

I could build one hell of a 4wd golf cart for cheaper for sure.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by tikkanut
No thx.......

No charging stations out here

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Great pic and agreed no good out there.
Posted By: lastround Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
I think I’ll stick with gasoline powered vehicles until there are none. And by then , I’ll be gone too.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Originally Posted by Teal
For me it has 2 strikes against it -

1. Polaris
2. Electric off road

I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.


I'll give you another strike - weight - 2,000 pounds.

You can purchase a good condition "street legal" 2011 Jeep Wrangler 4 door with A/C and heat for $20,000. I don't understand the side by side craze.

Sorry but bad comparison. 2011 Jeep wrangler weighs 3800-4800lbs according to Jeep specs on the internet. Kinetic is 1730lbs estimate. Plus is gas / loud. Whole point is something I can drive offroad as quiet as possible and not tear up the farm fields like the Jeep would.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Make sure you bring along plenty of hot dogs and marshmallows for when the fuqqer burns to the ground. $25,000.00 that's insane.


Great reply thanks point well taken. If i do buy one and that happens I will absolutely take pics of me roasting hot dogs over it and post it here. Thanks again.

Scott
Posted By: ShortMagFan Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Like everything prices will come down as the technology advances. Polaris has had a model called the EV out for a while and I’ve heard good things about it.

I love the idea of an electric UTV. I tried to go the golf cart route with a lift and mud tires but it didn’t do real well - and my roads are in great shape all else considered.

But a reasonably priced heavier duty electric utv I would definitely try. My property is only 350 acres with power onsite so range isn’t much of a concern

First generation at $25k? I’ll stick with my current UTV and let others be the Guinea pig
Posted By: badger Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
The lack of range and the reliability question are deal breakers for me. The terrain I hunt is hilly in places, with Georgia red clay bottoms, and some creek crossings to get from one side of the lease to another. The creek crossings have been the nemesis of a couple of electric SXS's, including a Bad Boy that got water into the throttle controller. I didn't see it happen, but the look on the driver's face afterward told me it was a life changing experience. It apparently launched itself through the creek and down a gully on the other side before he could shut it off. Might have been some soiled underwear during his adventure.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by badger
The lack of range and the reliability question are deal breakers for me. The terrain I hunt is hilly in places, with Georgia red clay bottoms, and some creek crossings to get from one side of the lease to another. The creek crossings have been the nemesis of a couple of electric SXS's, including a Bad Boy that got water into the throttle controller. I didn't see it happen, but the look on the driver's face afterward told me it was a life changing experience. It apparently launched itself through the creek and down a gully on the other side before he could shut it off. Might have been some soiled underwear during his adventure.

Agreed these units will have to be well sealed electric and water are a bad mix. However I am sure it can be done there is a company in Texas called Vulcan i believe that makes electric off road vehicles including side by sides and motorcycles that the company says can actually run underwater.

The range issue is a concern as well but for my purposes I cant see running more than 20 miles away from the camp at any time
Posted By: BKinSD Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Feels like the golf cart builders have 3/4 of this code cracked already...am I wrong?
Posted By: mbhunt Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Originally Posted by Teal
For me it has 2 strikes against it -

1. Polaris
2. Electric off road

I'd not bother sticking around waiting for a third.


I'll give you another strike - weight - 2,000 pounds.

You can purchase a good condition "street legal" 2011 Jeep Wrangler 4 door with A/C and heat for $20,000. I don't understand the side by side craze.

If you've ever jarred your teeth out of your head for a few hours on some mountain 2-track out west then you'd understand.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
My 21 Ranger is pushing 2k lbs. No issue there.

Guys that think a Jeep is the way to go have zero clue.
Posted By: Teal Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by scotts308
Originally Posted by badger
The lack of range and the reliability question are deal breakers for me. The terrain I hunt is hilly in places, with Georgia red clay bottoms, and some creek crossings to get from one side of the lease to another. The creek crossings have been the nemesis of a couple of electric SXS's, including a Bad Boy that got water into the throttle controller. I didn't see it happen, but the look on the driver's face afterward told me it was a life changing experience. It apparently launched itself through the creek and down a gully on the other side before he could shut it off. Might have been some soiled underwear during his adventure.

Agreed these units will have to be well sealed electric and water are a bad mix. However I am sure it can be done there is a company in Texas called Vulcan i believe that makes electric off road vehicles including side by sides and motorcycles that the company says can actually run underwater.

The range issue is a concern as well but for my purposes I cant see running more than 20 miles away from the camp at any time

I can not find it but yesterday I just read a post on LinkedIn where someone got an EV as a work vehicle. Had it 6 weeks and basically called it out for junk.

XXX mile range at 100% charge, yet you were told to only charge to 80%. Even at 80% you got less than 1/2 the advertised range on the car. Charging was problematic and took forever. Much longer than advertised.

I know an EV car isn't the same as this but considering the billions spent by Tesla/VW/Ford/GM only to produce 1/2 of advertised - I'd be shocked that Polaris, somehow is ahead of them on EV tech with their 8.2b total revenue.

Just saying - Polaris might claim 45 miles, don't be shocked if it's 20.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
As to the electric Ranger, I could see it being ok on a ranch with other UTV's that were gas powered.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by scotts308
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.

The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.

Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...

PT Barnum was right.

I bet they won't sell many like that.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Are there incentives for them to build electric ones like there are for autos?

I can see it being a pretty big market eventually.
Posted By: WYcoyote Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by scotts308
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.

The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.

Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...

PT Barnum was right.

I bet they won't sell many like that.

Easy pass.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by scotts308
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.

The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.

Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...

PT Barnum was right.

I bet they won't sell many like that.

So you are comparing it to the 500?
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by scotts308
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.

The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.

Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...

PT Barnum was right.

I bet they won't sell many like that.


No sir. The Polaris Ranger 1000 xp MSRP is $20,299 and weighs 1625lbs. The Kinetic MSRP 24,999 and weighs 1730lbs. All per the Polaris website you are way off in your numbers.

Also the 2022's were all sold out before they were available in stores due to pre-orders. According to a local dealer 2023 due to pre-orders are likely an 8 month wait time if I order today,
Posted By: Higginez Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
1625 dry if I remember right.
Posted By: hardin284 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
They have their uses. I’ve used the Polaris Ranger EV while guiding for an Illinois Whitetail outfitter. I like them so much I bought one at $13k new for use on my Georgia farm. They are way better in about every category other than price over a hyped up elec golf cart. They will carry 4 men and a 200 lb whitetail up a hill….no not a rocky 80degree snow covered mountain but I’ve seen it work on about a 45 degree incline in Pike Co Illinois. They charge quick, have tons of torque (3 gear ranges), quiet as a mouse, fast enough (25mph) decent range,etc

For my use I love the thing. When I bought it new a few years ago there was. $6k option for Li battery upgrade at $20k total. I opted not to get that battery package thinking when this regular battery set croaks in a few years I’ll upgrade to Li then.

For use around a hunting farm with access to electric they are great. If elec not available or running longer distance or paved roads I’d stay with gas.

Oh yeah, I guess Polaris reliability is hit/miss with some. I’ve owned this one, two ATVs, and snow mobiles made by Polaris and they all been as reliable or more reliable that other mfgs I have experience with.

FWIW….
Posted By: Higginez Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
110 hp

1,250 lbs in bed vs 1,000 for the gas

There are some pretty good things it has going for it.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Yes Polaris says it is the strongest Ranger it has ever made by far. Increased HP, increased bed capacity, increased towing capacity
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by Higginez
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by scotts308
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.

The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.

Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...

PT Barnum was right.

I bet they won't sell many like that.

So you are comparing it to the 500?


Was looking at this: https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-sp-570/ vs This: https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-xp-kinetic/

Sorry if the comparison wasn't good... They look about the same to me. But if someone else were buying me one to have and keep, I'd still chose the gas model.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
I would choose gas myself but the electrics are slowly catching up imho.
Posted By: scotts308 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Higginez
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by scotts308
The big catch for me is the price, 25k for the base model to start MSRP.

The gas powered same model retails for $11,600. And weighs about 600 pounds less.

Over $13k more expensive. Weighs 600 pounds more. Has a pipe dream range of 45 miles...

PT Barnum was right.

I bet they won't sell many like that.

So you are comparing it to the 500?


Was looking at this: https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-sp-570/ vs This: https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-xp-kinetic/

Sorry if the comparison wasn't good... They look about the same to me. But if someone else were buying me one to have and keep, I'd still chose the gas model.

No worries at all. The Ranger Kinetic is more on par with the 1000 series in regards to hauling, towing, bed capacity, HP however it actually exceeds the 1000 series in all of those categories as well. I was drawing my comparison to the Polaris Ranger 1000 xp gas model. I appreciate your time in replies its a lot to consider and all help is appreciated.

Scott
Posted By: tzone Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
You lost me at Polaris. laugh
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by tzone
You lost me at Polaris. laugh
Had a Polaris 6x6 and ran it hard '14-'19 in really tough going. It was amazing. Repairs were constant and expensive, but it got things done.

Then CanAm entered the game and Polaris was no longer in it. In three years we have not used any of the spare axles we carry. The bearings are still good all around... Mine was just delivered last week. It is a serious machine.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by tzone
You lost me at Polaris. laugh
+1
Posted By: Cowboy21 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Wait for a year until the reviews come in.....
Posted By: Cowboy21 Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by tzone
You lost me at Polaris. laugh
+1

I have a Polaris Ranger, atv and RMK never had a problem. Made in America too.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by tzone
You lost me at Polaris. laugh
Had a Polaris 6x6 and ran it hard '14-'19 in really tough going. It was amazing. Repairs were constant and expensive, but it got things done.

Then CanAm entered the game and Polaris was no longer in it. In three years we have not used any of the spare axles we carry. The bearings are still good all around... Mine was just delivered last week. It is a serious machine.

How has the Visco Lock front end worked out for you guys?
Posted By: Higginez Re: Polaris Ranger Kinetic - 11/30/22
Sitka,

How's the visco lock front end holding up? No issues? Slip?
Originally Posted by tzone
You lost me at Polaris. laugh
And electric.
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