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Two look like Border collie crosses, one big Border collie, a brown Pit looking dog and what looks like a giant Dachsund Pit cross. Second time they came around and both times I gave em warning shots with a shotgun. Followed them in the truck a ways to find out who owns em to no avail. The leader of the pack is the dog that looks like a Border Collie. I saw it leap up and grab a donkey by the nose while I was following them this morning. That dog has just been awarded the next time I see him prize, 50 gr. Varmageddon in the ribs. Might even bait a hog trap for dogs, see what I get.
Takem down.
Shoot ‘em’ when you see them. Might not be a killing shot but they won’t be roaming around!
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Giant wiener dog

Cool
Fire at will
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure
Originally Posted by Salty303
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure

That Border collie jumped up and grabbed a donkey by the nose and shook it's head before it let go. That weiner dog was a 60 pounder and had a collar, she is safe from me.
A Weiner pit mix? You gotta snap a picture of that....

Surprised it's not leading to pack. Dachshunds have little fear of anything, and a pit has the àss to back it up.....
If they’re roaming free in a pack they’ll go pagan. Might as well get the carnage over with.
Wild dogs are hell on fawns
Too bad you don't live in eastern Ohio or western PA, they'd be dead already.

What with all the PVC and sodium chlorides in the air.
One roaming dog is a problem. More than one is dangerous.

I've counted as many as 8 in a pack before. They need to be disappeared.
There was a Little House on the Prairie episode about that
Originally Posted by rainshot
If they’re roaming free in a pack they’ll go pagan. Might as well get the carnage over with.

I found them on a dead calf last year, didn't think they had killed it. Maybe though. Wasn't my pasture either.
This Ruger would take 'em out

With our current winter snow conditions

Actually waiting for a 'yote coming into the yard

looking for a free meal......MI MI the cat

pic 2....Ruger is waiting

More I shoot it the more I like it

Have 500+ rds out now

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My around the house rifle is a Remington model 7 predator in 223. I grab it when I mean to make a warm pile of meat. Skunks get an ounce of 6's from any available shotgun.
Originally Posted by justin10mm
One roaming dog is a problem. More than one is dangerous.

I've counted as many as 8 in a pack before. They need to be disappeared.



kill the bass turds
Originally Posted by earlybrd
Wild dogs are hell on fawns


Like to see 'em inside 100 yds

Ran some 9 mm 147 gr XTP's outta my 9mm Ruger today

Longshot powder......take out any wild dog/yote preying on fawns or calves

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Put them down! Sounds like the collie might have some kelpy in it's background!
Originally Posted by earlybrd
Wild dogs are hell on fawns

Yep. Those that run in packs like that don’t get a pass around here.
Originally Posted by Salty303
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure

Just imagine if it was a Chihuahua / pit bull cross. 😬
Best game shot I ever made was on a cur dog chasing penned deer. The guy that had a lease I was on had a 20 +- acre pen with some deer in it. His girlfriend came running over to the camp house one morning when I just got back yelling I had to kill the dogs running his deer!!! Only had my .44 so soon as we got back over to the house she shoves his 30/06 at me. Went through the gate as the chase was going by about 100 yards out full speed. Swung past a big black dog with the crosshairs like swinging a shotgun past a dove and hit the trigger. Dog fell for what looked like 20 yards. Pulled up on his front legs and I hit him again. Still proud of that shot.
Originally Posted by earlybrd
Wild dogs are hell on fawns
Are they ever. One year I lost the whole fawn crop to 3 free ranging dogs. They were not around after that season.
This is not legal advice.... Just advice from one man to another.... If you are going to do stuff like this, meaning, clean up the loose dog problem... don't be posting it on the Internet forms.

If you run into trouble with the law of any kind, even if it is unrelated to this issue.... they will find it.... and find it easily. And then use it against you.

I have witnessed this as a juror in a trial.
Originally Posted by tikkanut
This Ruger would take 'em out

With our current winter snow conditions

Actually waiting for a 'yote coming into the yard

looking for a free meal......MI MI the cat

pic 2....Ruger is waiting

More I shoot it the more I like it

Have 500+ rds out now

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Finally, a good use for cats. wink
Originally Posted by smokepole
Too bad you don't live in eastern Ohio or western PA, they'd be dead already.

What with all the PVC and sodium chlorides in the air.


More likely the airborne lead around here.

The pit blood would have been shed by now. The Collie volunteered to be next.
If my bases were covered, I'd report the livestock assault. It covers the killing.
Maybe track them back to the asshats that need addressed.

On the other hand, there can't be retribution for dogs just not coming home.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Salty303
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure

Just imagine if it was a Chihuahua / pit bull cross. 😬


Always pondered a JackRottie cross.
Shear aggression and energy in a 100# of muscle.
After having a run in with 2 large dogs on a pitch black night having a smoke i called the SO.

They came out and i told them i will no longer give a run off shot i will kill them dead.

He thought i was talking about every animal.

Had the Sheriff call me the next day because i wanted him to hear it from me what would happen.

No more mister nice guy here.

Brother in law has been told if he sees them with his thermal take them out.

I am tired of having folks buying 1 or 2 acres or just enough to put a trailer on letting their large junk yard dogs run all over.

Since that day i have not seen any dogs running loose.

It is just wrong to do that.

Take them out.
Loose, running dogs are a major problem. They wind up dead around here - if they leave town.
I've seen packs of "domestic" and collared dogs, numbering over 20.
Law says, any dog running loose, in an agricultural area, is a target - for all intents.
Dogs are WAY worse than coyotes, and possibly worse than wolves - on an overall, agricultural, loss basis.
Never ever complain to the owner of a bad dog. You had just as well call his wife ugly or his daughter a ho. Take care of it, drag it off where it won't be found or at least won't be traced to you.

Don't put on social media and don't answer questions if the owner or police show up.
Originally Posted by mikieb
This is not legal advice.... Just advice from one man to another.... If you are going to do stuff like this, meaning, clean up the loose dog problem... don't be posting it on the Internet forms.

If you run into trouble with the law of any kind, even if it is unrelated to this issue.... they will find it.... and find it easily. And then use it against you.

I have witnessed this as a juror in a trial.
Check your state code. Iowa is the duty of a sworn officer and the right of any citizen to dispatch free running dogs that are a threat to livestock pets or humans
Originally Posted by Hastings
Never ever complain to the owner of a bad dog. You had just as well call his wife ugly or his daughter a ho. Take care of it, drag it off where it won't be found or at least won't be traced to you.

Don't put on social media and don't answer questions if the owner or police show up.

Hastings;
Good evening to you sir, I trust you're either missing out on the latest Arctic air incursion or are sufficiently warm through artificial means.

We're allowed to protect livestock here from roaming dogs, but we're not legally allowed to shoot them chasing wildlife. Legally that has to be done by a LEO, likely a CO since they're typically more proficient with a long arm.

Since none of us would ever encourage anyone anywhere to not obey the law, especially on social media where it's floating about for all eternity, I'd opine that the advice you've given is sterling.

All the best.

Dwayne
Originally Posted by BC30cal
Originally Posted by Hastings
Never ever complain to the owner of a bad dog. You had just as well call his wife ugly or his daughter a ho. Take care of it, drag it off where it won't be found or at least won't be traced to you.

Don't put on social media and don't answer questions if the owner or police show up.

Hastings;
Good evening to you sir, I trust you're either missing out on the latest Arctic air incursion or are sufficiently warm through artificial means.

We're allowed to protect livestock here from roaming dogs, but we're not legally allowed to shoot them chasing wildlife. Legally that has to be done by a LEO, likely a CO since they're typically more proficient with a long arm.

Since none of us would ever encourage anyone anywhere to not obey the law, especially on social media where it's floating about for all eternity, I'd opine that the advice you've given is sterling.

All the best.

Dwayne
Glad your co are more proficient than you, bet your Mounties. Are more moral than you, and your government more just. You Canadian stake the cake.
Originally Posted by blanket
Originally Posted by BC30cal
Originally Posted by Hastings
Never ever complain to the owner of a bad dog. You had just as well call his wife ugly or his daughter a ho. Take care of it, drag it off where it won't be found or at least won't be traced to you.

Don't put on social media and don't answer questions if the owner or police show up.

Hastings;
Good evening to you sir, I trust you're either missing out on the latest Arctic air incursion or are sufficiently warm through artificial means.

We're allowed to protect livestock here from roaming dogs, but we're not legally allowed to shoot them chasing wildlife. Legally that has to be done by a LEO, likely a CO since they're typically more proficient with a long arm.

Since none of us would ever encourage anyone anywhere to not obey the law, especially on social media where it's floating about for all eternity, I'd opine that the advice you've given is sterling.

All the best.

Dwayne
Glad your co are more proficient than you, bet your Mounties. Are more moral than you, and your government more just. You Canadian stake the cake.

I don't believe your voice to text app is working very well.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Salty303
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure

That Border collie jumped up and grabbed a donkey by the nose and shook it's head before it let go. That weiner dog was a 60 pounder and had a collar, she is safe from me.



Surprising that the Donkey didn't kick the stuffings out of the mangy mutt.....
Many years ago I would set up on a hill to over look my, then ex-wife's uncle pasture to watch for dogs coming out of the near by subdivision to to run his sheep. Killed a number of those dogs.
Originally Posted by arkypete
Many years ago I would set up on a hill to over look my, then ex-wife's uncle pasture to watch for dogs coming out of the near by subdivision to to run his sheep. Killed a number of those dogs.
And you should have done just that.

Before my neighbors came to the understanding that their dogs weren't coming home if they went off killing things on other people's property we had a serious issue with dogs killing fawns and chasing cattle. Pit bull hybrids at that. The situation we are faced with is several rural ghetto black folk's trailer houses on 70 acres adjoining our property. All these folks are extended family with each other and would not properly feed or manage the breeding of dogs.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Salty303
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure

That Border collie jumped up and grabbed a donkey by the nose and shook it's head before it let go. That weiner dog was a 60 pounder and had a collar, she is safe from me.
And you fired warning shots the 2 times you have seen them??

You're doing good.

You can't make this stuff up.

Do coyotes get the same warning shots?
Originally Posted by shootem
Best game shot I ever made was on a cur dog chasing penned deer. The guy that had a lease I was on had a 20 +- acre pen with some deer in it. His girlfriend came running over to the camp house one morning when I just got back yelling I had to kill the dogs running his deer!!! Only had my .44 so soon as we got back over to the house she shoves his 30/06 at me. Went through the gate as the chase was going by about 100 yards out full speed. Swung past a big black dog with the crosshairs like swinging a shotgun past a dove and hit the trigger. Dog fell for what looked like 20 yards. Pulled up on his front legs and I hit him again. Still proud of that shot.

I found a big husky harassing our cow herd one morning. Spent a couple minutes trying to catch up with him on the four wheeler until he singled of a calf in the thick brush and the two of them broke cover. About 50 yards away running, the dog right on the calf's heals. I made sure the calf was clear and put a .270 round through the dog's neck crumpling him. Blew the collar clear off. Found it laying a couple feet away with a broken buckle.
Nice shot, public service.
We had a neighbor a mile away a few years ago who kept a pair of large dachsunds, and a male dark blue Aussie.

Sometimes the Dachsund bitch would welp a litter of dachsund pups, sometimes Aussie cross. Whichever, about every six months there was a new litter of pups ranging over a 2.5 mile radius running cows and sheep. This went on for three or four years.

Hunting them down and exterminating the litters was a community event.

I managed to get a few pups with the 22-250 after they got into my turkey pen. And the Aussie male signed his own death warrant when my wife opened our front door to find him on the porch growling at her.

Yes, they just vanish.
Originally Posted by smokepole
Too bad you don't live in eastern Ohio or western PA, they'd be dead already.

What with all the PVC and sodium chlorides in the air.

Not Sodium Chloride!!! That's dangerous stuff. Kills like the Hammer of Thor.
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by blanket
Originally Posted by BC30cal
Originally Posted by Hastings
Never ever complain to the owner of a bad dog. You had just as well call his wife ugly or his daughter a ho. Take care of it, drag it off where it won't be found or at least won't be traced to you.

Don't put on social media and don't answer questions if the owner or police show up.

Hastings;
Good evening to you sir, I trust you're either missing out on the latest Arctic air incursion or are sufficiently warm through artificial means.

We're allowed to protect livestock here from roaming dogs, but we're not legally allowed to shoot them chasing wildlife. Legally that has to be done by a LEO, likely a CO since they're typically more proficient with a long arm.

Since none of us would ever encourage anyone anywhere to not obey the law, especially on social media where it's floating about for all eternity, I'd opine that the advice you've given is sterling.

All the best.

Dwayne
Glad your co are more proficient than you, bet your Mounties. Are more moral than you, and your government more just. You Canadian stake the cake.

I don't believe your voice to text app is working very well.

Ha, ha, had to check, to see if it was Wabi !!

grin
Prestone.
Originally Posted by mikieb
This is not legal advice.... Just advice from one man to another.... If you are going to do stuff like this, meaning, clean up the loose dog problem... don't be posting it on the Internet forms.

If you run into trouble with the law of any kind, even if it is unrelated to this issue.... they will find it.... and find it easily. And then use it against you.

I have witnessed this as a juror in a trial.

Well I will take my chances, baited up a hog trap for dogs.
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Salty303
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure

That Border collie jumped up and grabbed a donkey by the nose and shook it's head before it let go. That weiner dog was a 60 pounder and had a collar, she is safe from me.



Surprising that the Donkey didn't kick the stuffings out of the mangy mutt.....

It was on one side of a fence leaning through it giving the collie the stink eye.. That dog has made a major enemy forever.
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Salty303
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure

That Border collie jumped up and grabbed a donkey by the nose and shook it's head before it let go. That weiner dog was a 60 pounder and had a collar, she is safe from me.
And you fired warning shots the 2 times you have seen them??

You're doing good.

You can't make this stuff up.

Do coyotes get the same warning shots?

Well the warning shots were with a shotgun and they were 80 yards away. No Coyotes get the warm meat treatment. I have seen this pack a couple times before but they never came into my property before.
Years ago doing research for a paper (hunting theme in a college Lit class if you can imagine) I came across a story of a survey crew in GA that killed eight or nine dogs that were attacking them.

Killed with axes and chainsaws, so I would call that "being attacked"

Packs of dogs running wild are something to be feared.

Years ago when I lived in ABQ s neighbor caught a dog in his show turkeys, killed the dog and ended up in jail.
Funny thing is that NM did not have a law where livestock owner could kill dogs running his stock until late 60s, early 70s, early to mid 70s here in TN.
Reckon both places deemed it common sense to put down dogs in livestock, but with the new folks out in the country believing Fido would never do such a thing that common sense hade to be codified.

Don't know if Mark Shubert remembers but a picture of stock chasers was posted in either Life or Look and caused a national uproar.
If memory serves me correctly, it was taken out on 104 east.
Good Advice, I’ve one responder to ignore now. When you insult one of the people on here who are always polite and insightful I’ve no need to interact with them.

In the states it’s a bit different. Dispatching game that’s been hit by a car in states I’ve lived is mostly the work of LEOs/DNR. In one state a dog chasing game is duty of a hunter for example to dispatch. Another state it’s a major offense. The second state has a lot of dog hunting and I think they are trying to minimize disputes the best they can.

I’ve seen LEOs do a mag dump into a hit deer’s shoulder and not kill it. When it comes to those situs if I can safely dispatch I do. LEOs are ok with it when they arrive on scene. I do realize it’s on me to know the laws and I’m taking risk if I do this anyway. One time, a deer was hit by 3-4 cars getting on freeway and those jokers kept going. I hopped out to drag it out of 4 lane/on-ramp intersection. Before I could a tractor trailer hit it, threw it into a passing LEO and took out her grill. I was very cautious how I approached because it was a crazy situ and the LEO was white knuckled with brakes still on minutes later. I calmed her down, explained she hadn’t hit a person, and told her calmly I would clear the carcass. I honestly don’t know what she did after. She was still standing in brakes when I drove off.

Conversely, the DNR/CO I’m good friends with I’d trust with my life. If he had to dispatch game he’d be quick and clean. Others haven’t hunted or spent 10 yrs in overseas war. Based on what I saw in BC and Alberta I’d say most there are used to dealing with these issues. Good people all I met up there.
When it comes to roaming dogs it’s tough. If you notify officers they might visit neighbors. If you have to resolve yourself you’ve become the prime suspect.


I’ve a dacschund and agree with the poster on their temperament. He charges oversized bears in our yard like he’s more than a bite sized snack. He’s all heart and never even pauses to defend.
Originally Posted by gremcat
Good Advice, I’ve one responder to ignore now. When you insult one of the people on here who are always polite and insightful I’ve no need to interact with them.


I was kind of scratching my head over that one too.
We had a pack of half wild dogs roaming around several small farms and back country when I was in high school. The leader was a big German shepherd and I’m sure some dogs that had owners would roam with the pack at times. They killed a neighbor’s four months old calf and killed chickens, turkeys etc. I had two encounters with them.

The first time I was hunting pheasants and cutting across some sage hills. The pack circled me, silently menacing at ten to 15 yards but wary. I didn’t shoot the leader and should have. He was new and hadn’t killed the calf yet, and I thought maybe a neighbor owned him.

My second encounter with him was on a day of patchy snow when my Mom yelled that the wild dog was after our chickens and to bring a gun. I grabbed my single shot .22, ( should have grabbed a shotgun), ran out and in the dim dusk light could not see the iron sights except on snow. As the
German shepherd loped past me at ten yards, I sighted on a patch of snow ahead of his chest, waited and fired when I thought his ribs were just coming on the sights. I fired too soon. A neighbor killed him a week later and we found a fresh deep bullet blaze across the front of his chest.

Town people would dump off unwanted dogs out in farm country.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Salty303
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure

That Border collie jumped up and grabbed a donkey by the nose and shook it's head before it let go. That weiner dog was a 60 pounder and had a collar, she is safe from me.
And you fired warning shots the 2 times you have seen them??

You're doing good.

You can't make this stuff up.

Do coyotes get the same warning shots?

Well the warning shots were with a shotgun and they were 80 yards away. No Coyotes get the warm meat treatment. I have seen this pack a couple times before but they never came into my property before.
No warning shots.

All that will do is wise em up, especially if you were in a vehicle or on some sort of equipment they can associate with those shots.

Have a proper tool with you and do what you have to do.

Wouldn't be telling anybody in your AO either.
S, S, & S... The final "S" includes the internet...
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Salty303
Those collies and wiener dogs very scary for sure

That Border collie jumped up and grabbed a donkey by the nose and shook it's head before it let go. That weiner dog was a 60 pounder and had a collar, she is safe from me.
And you fired warning shots the 2 times you have seen them??

You're doing good.

You can't make this stuff up.

Do coyotes get the same warning shots?

Well the warning shots were with a shotgun and they were 80 yards away. No Coyotes get the warm meat treatment. I have seen this pack a couple times before but they never came into my property before.
No warning shots.

All that will do is wise em up, especially if you were in a vehicle or on some sort of equipment they can associate with those shots.

Have a proper tool with you and do what you have to do.

Wouldn't be telling anybody in your AO either.

The hog/dog trap always works, just a matter of time and lets me be selective.
In interactions with bears and moose, I've found "warning shots" to be worthless. It's just a loud noise... dunno, maybe "domestic" dogs take it differently.

Sting something with gravel or pellets may get the appropriate response, or maybe just make them more wary as they do their thing.

If you are going to shoot, shoot to kill.
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