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Posted By: wabigoon Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Anyone had one?
Posted By: gonehuntin Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
wut happend to ur speeling?
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I hafe not
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
wut happend to ur speeling?
Pastor Missy prayed for his spelling
Posted By: RUM7 Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
wut happend to ur speeling?
Pastor Missy prayed for his spelling
Just don't start thinking about Pastor Missy during the exam.
Posted By: sbrmike Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I had one a couple. No big deal.
Posted By: HTDUCK Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by sbrmike
I had one a couple. No big deal.


Same here
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Thank you good folks.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Anyone had one?

You can't be serious.
Posted By: T_O_M Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Anyone had one?

Yes. My experience was different than reported above. They took 12 samples. The first one hurt but wasn't so bad. The hurt built with each successive sample. If there had been 13 instead of 12 I would have puked. It was foo-king close as it was. I would just about as soon undergo a root canal without anesthetic.

Tom
Posted By: Muffin Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Yes, don't want another.... but they're manageable....

much like a colonoscopy, cystoscopy....

...probing is rarely a 'GOOD' time...

YMMV
Posted By: Raeford Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
wut happend to ur speeling?

I know, back to back two syllable words, spelt correctly!

It's a foikin miracle I tell ya, a miracle!
Posted By: shootem Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Anyone had one?

Yes. My experience was different than reported above. They took 12 samples. The first one hurt but wasn't so bad. The hurt built with each successive sample. If there had been 13 instead of 12 I would have puked. It was foo-king close as it was. I would just about as soon undergo a root canal without anesthetic.

Tom

That’s ridiculous. Seriously. If your urologist can’t figger it out after a couple he’s hopeless. 12 is just off the chart. I would never ever trust that doc on anything.
Posted By: hicountry Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Yup, btdt.

12 sample biopsy.

First shot my azz flew off the table and I almost kicked the nurse in the face.

She goes...wow, never seen that before.

I go how many of these you going to take ? She goes 12....phfuuck....

I was 46 at the time and playing 200+ sb games a year.

I said, yeah because most of the patients are 75+, and have no reactions.....

5% of one sample came back bad.
Posted By: JeffA Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Gonna have to start being concerned about brother Flave if he let's this thread pass without making a contribution.
Posted By: smithrjd Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
It's not that bad, you'll be out anyway. Some pain and peeing blood for a bit afterwards. The issue will be what they find from the biopsy.
Posted By: hanco Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I’ve had 3, two ultra sounds, one simple prostatectomy

I’m a prostate veteran . I’ve had so many people put something up my ass that I’ve lost count
Posted By: 1minute Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Not done one, but a hunting buddy had several over 3 or 4 years. Blood indications suggested issues, and it took several rounds to hit a positive target.
Posted By: smithrjd Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
12 needle or samples is pretty normal, they divide the prostate into four quadrants. four each. Betting PSA was high..
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I'm told I'll be under for it.
Posted By: smithrjd Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Bad math, 3 each quad..LOL
Posted By: JMR40 Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I had one in September. Cancer was confirmed and my prostate was removed on 10/10. I've fully recovered from the surgery, but still working on getting full bladder control. My cancer was confined to the prostate and a recent PSA test was undetectable which confirmed no more cancer.

They can do it 2 ways. One way you are awake in the docs office and they stick a device up your butt and take 10 samples. I chose to be put to sleep and do it in the hospital. Doc says he can get a more accurate reading that way. Only downside was leaving with a catheter up my dick for 24 hours.

My brother and a buddy had it done in the office. If you request it they will give you a valium before. My brother said it felt like being stung by a hornet in the ass 10 times. The 1st 4-5 were tolerable. The last few hurt like hell.
Posted By: saddlesore Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Hunting buddy had one.Not fun
Posted By: Sako76 Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I’ve had three, all awake in the office, I do not recommend it be done this way. I never knew you could go to the hospital, be put under and have an IV. They all hurt like hell but the second one was the worst, Doc gave me the local and came back in 10 minutes and started, way too soon! I told the nurse about the third time and he came 45 minutes after the local, much better.

The first two biopsies were positive for cancer, third one 0-12, my Gleason score was low so we are monitoring it. It’s 9 years since it was first detected by a routine physical and work! Good luck!

FYI—my PSA is 0.6!
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I'm sort of sorry I asked.
Posted By: Clarkm Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I told the wife I would go to the doctor, for the first time in 20 years, if she would take early retirement.

She retired and took me to the doctor.

He stuck his finger up my rear and said, "Some hardening of the prostate, but not as much as I would expect at your age."

I told the wife, "You only get one prostate exam per retirement."


But the blood draws....My wife gets many blood draws per year. She maintains a spreadsheet on our blood draw data and the blood draw data of many of our relatives.
Posted By: COLORADO_LUCKYDOG Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I'm told I'll be under for it.

I wish I had been under. I had mine in 2016. It was positive. I had radiation from the outside in and the inside out. I have been cancer free since. Knock on wood. I go back once a year now and they check my PSA. I guess I'm good as long as my PSA is super low. I get nervous as a whore in church every year when I go for the test. One thing I will tell you, it's super important to watch your mental health through all of it. I was diagnosed they same day as my wife's boss and I watched him shrivel up and die in two months. Watching him and being diagnosed my self put me into depression. When the doctor told me I had depression, he said not to worry! it's quite common when someone goes through cancer to be diagnosed with depression! I didn't say anything but I was thinking, why the phugg didn't you guys tell me that.
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I'm told I'll be under for it.

Golly, pleese let us no when to start prayign!! Got some queued up.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by COLORADO_LUCKYDOG
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I'm told I'll be under for it.

I wish I had been under. I had mine in 2016. It was positive. I had radiation from the outside in and the inside out. I have been cancer free since. Knock on wood. I go back once a year now and they check my PSA. I guess I'm good as long as my PSA is super low. I get nervous as a whore in church every year when I go for the test. One thing I will tell you, it's super important to watch your mental health through all of it. I was diagnosed they same day as my wife's boss and I watched him shrivel up and die in two months. Watching him and being diagnosed my self put me into depression. When the doctor told me I had depression, he said not to worry! it's quite common when someone goes through cancer to be diagnosed with depression! I didn't say anything but I was thinking, why the phugg didn't you guys tell me that.

They shoulda been able to get prostate samples from the top of your head
Posted By: Ulvejaeger Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I've had it done twice in the Dr.'s office.
No big deal. I imagine it would hurt if you
wanted it to.
Posted By: oldwoody2 Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Any Doc that's doing that many is just making pool payments !!!!
Posted By: 54Woody Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Yes, 12 samples, awake, I couple feel the last three. Doc said he should have used more numbing agent considering the size of my prostate. Cancer confirmed, had it removed 2 months later. My recovery was faster than average. I was 63 years old. No problem for the past 6 years.
Posted By: Papag Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Yes. Not fun. Sixteen punches. Next time I’ll be sedated.
As he said, “Won’t be the worst thing in your life and you’ll be glad you’re not gay.”
Posted By: smithrjd Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Read up on the Gleason scale. I got lucky, cancer but low risk for now. Most likely I will die from something else before the prostate gets me first.
Posted By: DaveinWV Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
I did in 2010. The doc took 10 needle biopsies. One was positive for cancer. Gleason score goes from 2- 10. Mine was 8. Six weeks later I had my prostate removed at Johns Hopkins. The Gleason score was 9 possibly a 10. Got it out just in time.
When they rolled me into the OR a nurse introduced herself. I asked her if she was going to be there for the procedure? She replied yes so, I asked her for a favor. I told her I realize my prostate is now my enemy, but we've had a lot of fun together. I told her I'll be out, and I asked her to say a few nice words over him before they flush him out in the harbor because I'll miss him!
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Anyone had one?

Don't worry about having the biopsy; thing to worry about is when you go back in for the results and the doc says, "Well Mr. Wabi, I certainly hate to tell you this, but ........"

That's deserving of real concern.

L.W.
Posted By: GeorgeLa Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/19/23
Had two. One transrectal and one transperineal at Huntsman Cancer Center in Salt Lake. Demand transperineal as is samples the front and back of the prostate. Transrectal only gets the back. No cancer detected. If it’s more than just uncomfortable with a quick sting as the sample is taken your doctor is a hack.

PSA in the 8 range, 200 cc prostate volume. I’ll probably get a simple prostatectomy this year.
Posted By: SuperCub Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Anyone had one?
Yes .... It was for my prostate. It was like one of those dandelion puller thingies you use on your yard that look like a pogo stick, only they stick it in your bum and it cuts off chunks. No fun, and yes I did have cancer. Prostate was removed and A-OK now.

It was only by the grace of God I went down that road to get checked. I wanted to get mortgage insurance through a different carrier so they sent a nurse over for a physical. She drew blood and did a survey. 3 weeks later I got a letter telling me they would not insure me and that I should see a doctor.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Stay awake.

When they knock ya out, they just use a butt out tool.
Posted By: Verylargeboots Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
I sincerely hope this goes well for you. I do not envy your position, no pun intended.
Posted By: JMR40 Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Your insurance may dictate whether you get it in the office or hospital. The bill for my hospital visit just for the biopsy was $48,000. It was outpatient and I was only there 2-3 hours. I had to pay $95 out of pocket. The surgery was $116,000. I never asked about prices but I'm sure the one done in the office is cheaper and some insurance may not approve the hospital visit. I was told they could get more accurate samples if you're asleep and in the hospital so they may use that angle to get insurance approval.

They divided my prostate into 5 segments and got 2 samples from each in my case. Some may do more. They did not detect any cancer in 2 of the 5 segments. There is a Gleason scale to rate how aggressive the cancer is. Anything 5 or below they usually just monitor it and do not treat unless it goes up. A score of 6 is borderline. Some docs will continue to monitor it, some will advise treatment. Mine was a 7. That meant either radiation or surgery. I chose surgery. Above 7 and you get pushed to the front of the line to get treatment ASAP.

1st week after surgery was a bit rough. I had to keep the catheter in and pee in a bag for 15 days, but I was out walking around the neighborhood and eating out after about 10 days. After getting the bag off I was doing most anything I wanted to do within a week.
Posted By: Sharpsman Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Yep.....and 44 days of radiation!
Posted By: Japlvr Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Originally Posted by oldwoody2
Any Doc that's doing that many is just making pool payments !!!!


Wrong!

If the Dr takes less than 12 core samples there is a good chance that he might not hit the cancerous cells.
Posted By: Wrapids Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
The standard is 12 needle punch biopsies, six per side. Mine was 7-8 Gleason scale, meaning they ranged 7 to 8 depending on the punch, which is highly aggressive prostate cancer. Post prostatectomy, I still had measurable PSA so I got 2 months of external beam radiation. Still alive but couldn't fuc a duc if I had to.

PS, this all post Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam, they knew better but who cared, eh?
Posted By: 22kHornet Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Well here is my story. My dad died with prostate cancer so I was predisposed. Started having my PSA checked yearly after I turned 40. My PSA started to move up in my 50’s so when it moved above 4.0 they requested that I have a biopsy. I like you checked around to see what others had experienced with the one given by the doctor in his office with only a local anesthetic. Like the others that have responded some had minor discomfort to severe pain issues. I requested the Valium drip and only had minor discomfort. My test proved positive with a Gleason score of 6.0. My doctor said this was a typical average score but recommended that I have either radiation treatment or have my prostate removed. My doctor said both were 95% effective and both could result in similar side effects. I had a buddy that chose radiation a year earlier and had great results and little side efffects. So I chose the radiation treatment which was 5 treatments per week for 9 weeks. This was in the late 1990’s so the treatments may be different now. The radiation treatments were not bad and I made it through them and was still able to not miss any work. After I completed the treatments my PSA had only dropped to 1.5 so we waited a month or 2 and rechecked it and it had moved up to 2.3 so needless to say I fell into the 5% group that was not successful. My urologist had retired in the meantime and I went to see a new urologist for the first time to discuss my options. He told me that my only option left was to have my prostate removed but due to the scar tissue now in my prostate from the radiation there were very few surgeon’s in the country that could perform what is referred to as a salvage prostatectomy. My new urologist was trained at Vanderbilt by one of the best that could perform such a surgery and since he felt my cancer was confined to the prostate his mentor agreed to meet with me and later removed it. The surgery was successful and my PSA has remained undetectable. I have had many ask my advise if I had to do it over again knowing what I know now. My advise is to ask your urologist for something more than a local anesthetic for your biopsy. If you find out that you have cancer and it is aggressive I would advise to have it removed. Also consider going to meet with other surgeon’s till you find one that you feel comfortable with. I would not recommend radiation treatment. Best wishes and hopefully your test comes back negative.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Thanks all.
Posted By: navlav8r Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
I had three with cancer found on the third.

The first one is normally a 12 sample usually guided by an ultrasound probe. Mine was in an exam room set up for it at the doctor’s office. All of mine were with a local vice sedation. If it’s going to be under sedation it’ll be no problem. Then you have to wait for a couple of days for the results.

The second and third were both MRI fusion biopsies (16 and 24 samples) where you have a multi-parametric MRI. Then the MRI images are fuzed with the ultrasound images that the doc sees from the ultrasound probe to give him a better chance of hitting any suspicious areas.

I had surgery and recurrence a year later, followed by radiation so if you have any questions feel free to shoot me a PM.
Posted By: COLORADO_LUCKYDOG Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by COLORADO_LUCKYDOG
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I'm told I'll be under for it.

I wish I had been under. I had mine in 2016. It was positive. I had radiation from the outside in and the inside out. I have been cancer free since. Knock on wood. I go back once a year now and they check my PSA. I guess I'm good as long as my PSA is super low. I get nervous as a whore in church every year when I go for the test. One thing I will tell you, it's super important to watch your mental health through all of it. I was diagnosed they same day as my wife's boss and I watched him shrivel up and die in two months. Watching him and being diagnosed my self put me into depression. When the doctor told me I had depression, he said not to worry! it's quite common when someone goes through cancer to be diagnosed with depression! I didn't say anything but I was thinking, why the phugg didn't you guys tell me that.

They shoulda been able to get prostate samples from the top of your head

They should be able to get Deflaves prostate sample from your lips. Phaag!
Posted By: SuperCub Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Originally Posted by Sharpsman
Yep.....and 44 days of radiation!
Yup .... 49 for me after the surgery to remove the prostate.
Posted By: Rustyzipper Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
It was 12 samples in one procedure. NO PAIN. No OR, just in the Doctor's office. Analysis came out negative. PSA had doubled from one to two. RZ.
Posted By: kappa8 Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
Yep, last July. Doctor *really* didn't like what he observed digitally, so scheduled the biopsy. Wasn't a horrible for me as some describe, although the doc was so concerned he went in for 16 (instead of "just" 12). He was shocked as hell when results came back negative, but that's why they do them.

But the afterward effects suck! After the initial 3-4 week healing period, thought everything was in rearview mirror (pun intended). Nope, no sir!! Every 3-4 weeks I could feel a little something moving in my bowels like I had diahhrea, then my ass would start bleeding. No, not colon cancer, but from the sphincter where the needles entered. Lasts 1/2 day, then goes away. After 2 months, thought it would finally be done. Nope! Hit me again two weeks ago. For once I understood what women go through every month, and boy does it suck. 6-month follow-up visit in January, and this will be a major topic of discussion.
Posted By: TimberRunner Re: Prostate Biopsy? - 12/20/23
At age 60, you have a 60% chance of having prostate cancer and it goes up by 10% each decade after that, 70% at 70, 80% at 80, etc.

Having the diagnosis is one thing, what you do with it is another.
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