Tyson has been hiring wetbacks for years to process their chicken- - - - -haven't bought any of their products in at least 20 years. It's hard to boycott something I don't buy anyway. The grocery stores in every town with a Tyson plant have several aisles dedicated to Mexican products. Somebody's got to be buying that stuff.
I cannot remember the last time I bought Tyson, easily 20 years ago, but with their new 1 Billion adventure to force the bugs into our food I'd suggest those who don't want to ingest ivermectin often to stay away as well.
The entire commercial food processing business model in the US depends on illegal labor. This isn't even close to just a Tyson issue. If you are buying products at the grocery store, an illegal had a hand in them. Everyone working at any food processing plant around here knows days prior to any surprise immigration inspection. It's not by accident.
Back in the mid-90s, I worked at a meat processing plant. I won't name names. They're still in business.
The beginning packer was making .$.25/hour more than Wendy's starter. A supervisor made $.50/hr more. If you worked 3rd shift, you got a $.50/hour shift differential.
We had above 75% attrition in the first month. Actually most folks hit the inner door going into the plant and left and never came back. Our plant was fastidiously clean, but the mix of raw and cooked meat together does something. I worked there for 4 years schlepping PCs around, and there were days where that smell would hit me and I had to walk back out and steel myself. Raw met doesn't smell bad. Cooked meat smells really good. Put the two together?
There was one point where things were at a breaking point. One of the junior execs was in HR. I was there as well fixing something.
"What are we going to do?" he said. "I'm looking for ideas." At this point they were hiring out of halfway houses, AA meetings, and putting a want ad crawler across the bottom of the local radar channel.
"Tell you what," I said. "I've got a buddy that has a big ol' Oldsmobile convertible. He travels to Mexico in the winter, because he froze his feet in The Bulge and can't stand to get them cold. We can ride down with him and stuff maybe 7 at a time in the trunk."
This young exec thought I was serious, and actually started thinking about it. I had to tell him I was joshing. He wasn't. Whatcha know, but 2 weeks later Tyson got nailed doing pretty much the same thing. About a year later, we got ourselves in a jam and Tyson swooped in and bought us out. I was laid off in the first wave.
Tyson, was/is a huge backer of the Clintons, too. They donated wheelbarrow loads of money to them. Remember those cattle futures Hilarity made so much money on? Tyson footprints all over that (they did more than chicken in those days, and might, still).
I’m sure there’s lines of white Americans lining up to work on the slaughter floor ankle deep in chicken [bleep], blood and guts 8 hrs a day 6 days a week for $20/hr….
How many people on here pay someone else to mow their yard? Change their oil? Clean their home? Wash their car?
We are a civilization at the end of a very historically predictable cycle. The generation that has known nothing but wealth and entitlement and has lost the ability/desire to perform tasks they deem menial.
The entire commercial food processing business model in the US depends on illegal labor. This isn't even close to just a Tyson issue. If you are buying products at the grocery store, an illegal had a hand in them. Everyone working at any food processing plant around here knows days prior to any surprise immigration inspection. It's not by accident.
This^^. From the farms, processors/packers, restaurants etc… Meat or vegetable. If you’re going to boycott, you’ll likely starve to death.
I’m sure there’s lines of white Americans lining up to work on the slaughter floor ankle deep in chicken [bleep], blood and guts 8 hrs a day 6 days a week for $20/hr….
If corporate farming was demolished and returned to pre-1960s laws (this is when small farms were starting to be killed off, actually just repeal everything from the 1960s) and put the food supply back into the hands of the people growing and raising the food it would eliminate a lot of problems. A farmer/rancher is not allowed to butcher and sell his own livestock to the public, that's crazy.
I’m sure there’s lines of white Americans lining up to work on the slaughter floor ankle deep in chicken [bleep], blood and guts 8 hrs a day 6 days a week for $20/hr….
How many people on here pay someone else to mow their yard? Change their oil? Clean their home? Wash their car?
We are a civilization at the end of a very historically predictable cycle. The generation that has known nothing but wealth and entitlement and has lost the ability/desire to perform tasks they deem menial.
Pennsylvania is going balls to the wall against an Amish market that sells real food to the public. Meat, dairy and vegetables, all organic. Maybe one of the Pennsylvania guys can give us some information about it. It's not well covered here.
I’m sure there’s lines of white Americans lining up to work on the slaughter floor ankle deep in chicken [bleep], blood and guts 8 hrs a day 6 days a week for $20/hr….
If corporate farming was demolished and returned to pre-1960s laws (this is when small farms were starting to be killed off, actually just repeal everything from the 1960s) and put the food supply back into the hands of the people growing and raising the food it would eliminate a lot of problems. A farmer/rancher is not allowed to butcher and sell his own livestock to the public, that's crazy.
That`s what needs to happen. Since Americans are so intellectually lazy allowing corporatist shills to spoon feed them their opinions instead of forming them themselves, and the fact that our politicians of both parties work exclusively for their corporate donors best interest and not the best interest of the average American it`s not going to change any time soon.
There are a bunch of chicken processing plants in my area of Mississippi. They all fired the locals around 1990 and replaced them with all illegals. Now the schools are full of Hispanic kids and ESL classes.
For a while it was a game where the INS would raid the chicken plants about once a year and haul all the illegals off. The plant would shut for about a week then they’d all be back. The feds would leave them alone for another year. Someone was being paid off.
When I lived in the Rio Grande Valley the shopper in McAllen always had ads for employment from IBP. IBP has since been brought out by Tyson. The ads were in Spanish. They would also say must be willing to relocate to the Midwest.
With today's inflated economy a small farmer or rancher would have a hard time making it without a second income. I went to HS in West Texas. It was a farming community, good people doing hard work. They were and still are totally at the mercy of the weather. Spend a lot of money planting cotton and watch it get washed away a couple of times and you're done. now days even small farmers hire wetbacks to plow, plant and do the work. They're cheap even if they don't care what they run over. I don't know the answer but hiring illegals isn't it. We're going to be overrun with them. Our culture is already eroded to the point it may never recover.
I always heard there was a sign in Mexico that said Cargil is hiring Beardstown Il and Omaha Neb. Just thought it was a joke. Beardstown is full of illegals.But on a trip to mexico on an excursion THE SIGN EXISTS
I haven't bought Tyson chicken in years. The last time I did, there was so much greasy fat under the skin, I couldn't even eat it.
We can hope they get Budlighted but like others have said, the big processing plants have been doing this for years. Now they just have new stock to train.
I think we all knew this was coming. I don't see anyone surprised over this except for the folks who worked at Tysons in Perry. It will happen somewhere else. You can count on it.
I’m sure there’s lines of white Americans lining up to work on the slaughter floor ankle deep in chicken [bleep], blood and guts 8 hrs a day 6 days a week for $20/hr….
How many people on here pay someone else to mow their yard? Change their oil? Clean their home? Wash their car?
We are a civilization at the end of a very historically predictable cycle. The generation that has known nothing but wealth and entitlement and has lost the ability/desire to perform tasks they deem menial.
I’m sure there’s lines of white Americans lining up to work on the slaughter floor ankle deep in chicken [bleep], blood and guts 8 hrs a day 6 days a week for $20/hr….
How many people on here pay someone else to mow their yard? Change their oil? Clean their home? Wash their car?
We are a civilization at the end of a very historically predictable cycle. The generation that has known nothing but wealth and entitlement and has lost the ability/desire to perform tasks they deem menial.
Obviously you have never worked a chicken or turkey plant. Its all automated and there isnt blood, guts and chicken sh*t on the floor.
I am not going to pretend to know how a chicken plant operates. As I will never step foot in one.
But, if these assclowns hire, they will keep coming.
We have determined that a wall will never happen. Time to go after the companies in earnest.
Politicians have likely not been to any of the food processing places either and even if they did the place would be spotless and nice. Now if they'd just show up and want a tour they'd see the real deal and maybe have an idea of what life for everyday America is all about. So they continue to govern without any idea what's going on. Another excellent reason to take apart our out of control federal government.
If you think Tyson is different in this regard from any of the other industrial food companies you should think again.
That's a fact.
There is a high cost for all the cheap food in America
I think corporate greed is the bigger issue. Food companies are not all that much different than manufacturing and in my dealings through my own business every company I've worked for has had terrible results with cheap labor and outsourcing. The real cause is these companies ceased to be operated by an owner with some decency and vision and are being ran by accountants that want the stock holders to be pleased with them.
Well yea, the Butterball plant down the road from me actually built a trailer park for the workers and has an old school bus go in and pickup the crew for shift change. Got their own little community right there
This is nothing new. There’s been a slow drain of “migrant” workers in the construction trades locally. Come to find out other companies are doing an “end around” by hiring “migrants” through a temp agency thus putting the responsibility of vetting their credentials on the temp agency. Not sure what happens if the State wants something from the temp agency, maybe a bag of cash?
I’m sure there’s lines of white Americans lining up to work on the slaughter floor ankle deep in chicken [bleep], blood and guts 8 hrs a day 6 days a week for $20/hr….
How many people on here pay someone else to mow their yard? Change their oil? Clean their home? Wash their car?
We are a civilization at the end of a very historically predictable cycle. The generation that has known nothing but wealth and entitlement and has lost the ability/desire to perform tasks they deem menial.
Obviously you have never worked a chicken or turkey plant. Its all automated and there isnt blood, guts and chicken sh*t on the floor.
I live in the turkey capitol of America. Never worked for one, but been through them looking at construction projects. Fugkin nasty smell and working conditions. Americans ain’t lining up to work in one.
Well yea, the Butterball plant down the road from me actually built a trailer park for the workers and has an old school bus go in and pickup the crew for shift change. Got their own little community right there
Stark's Nursery in Louisiana, Missouri used to be a family owned business, they're about 30 miles from our home, and they sold out to some buyers then they started using migrant workers and had a trailer park for them. Maybe even the original owner did this, I'm not sure. At one time they had a retail store and sold great stuff with outstanding small town service then covid hit and the store was closed and now most all they employ are migrants. Everything about the place has declined since.
they shut the Tyson plant down in Monett Missouri. it certainly not for a lack of Mexican help they don't call that Monexico for no reason. there are plenty of other poultry plants in the area of Butterball cargril and others.. I don't know what percentage is legal and illegal and all that. I'm guessing from the fines that can be levied per illegal worker. those big corporations don't take many chances if they know the person is actually illegal. but I have also heard stories from people in that area that actually worked at some of the places and said if they knew the right people were coming they would tell certain workers that were good workers to stay home that day cuz they may have suspicion they did not have all the right paperwork..
I have a customer who is American but obviously of Mexican heritage. They’re a small business, primarily family run, and use migrant labor on their install crews.
Their manager went into some detail on how they have to be certain all of their paperwork is in order so there’s no complications. They like to keep guys as long as they can and if you were around this bunch you’d understand why the help wanted to stay. Good folks.
Kinda burns my ass that this little Mexican Family run business can go to all that trouble but an outfit like Tyson can’t.
Engineer for a major food company here. I’d guarantee you consume our product. 10k employees give or take around the world. Majority domestic. We do not hire illegals, I’ll say that with confidence. Used to require a high school diploma which weeded them out easily. They abandoned that a few years ago though, unfortunately.
A former boss became CEO for the biggest (or next to biggest) pork producer. He was there a few months and said screw this and quit. EVERYBODY was illegal. He assumed they had a percentage, but everybody on the line was.
My boss tells the story of going through a hot dog plant to look at some equipment he was thinking of buying. The plant engineer told him it was just known they’d get raided and lose their work force, but they didn’t sweat it, the deported workers would be back, and in the meantime their illegal buddies would just fill the holes in the workforce.
I’m sure there’s lines of white Americans lining up to work on the slaughter floor ankle deep in chicken [bleep], blood and guts 8 hrs a day 6 days a week for $20/hr….
If corporate farming was demolished and returned to pre-1960s laws (this is when small farms were starting to be killed off, actually just repeal everything from the 1960s) and put the food supply back into the hands of the people growing and raising the food it would eliminate a lot of problems. A farmer/rancher is not allowed to butcher and sell his own livestock to the public, that's crazy.
IN about 1968 the State of Iowa changed the standards on selling fresh milk, cream and eggs. It put us put of the milking business. It was either go big or get out. We chose to get out because the capitol investment was going to be huge. The 2 creameries that were in town closed down and the best we could of done is sell cream by the quart jar if no one ratted us out.
Our own State government did that to us. I'm sure the Fed's had something to do with it. I see Pennsylvania is chasing after the Amish for doing the same thing.
Well yea, the Butterball plant down the road from me actually built a trailer park for the workers and has an old school bus go in and pickup the crew for shift change. Got their own little community right there
Stark's Nursery in Louisiana, Missouri used to be a family owned business, they're about 30 miles from our home, and they sold out to some buyers then they started using migrant workers and had a trailer park for them. Maybe even the original owner did this, I'm not sure. At one time they had a retail store and sold great stuff with outstanding small town service then covid hit and the store was closed and now most all they employ are migrants. Everything about the place has declined since.
I know that the selection of products from Stark Bros has shrunk considerably.
Tyson is part of the Clinton Mafia. Does the name Laura Tyson ring a bell?
The construction business started using cheap labor (illegal) over fifty years ago. INS raids would shut down a project for a day or two. Same crew would be back before their socks dried out. Union jobs were the exception, but since young men are afraid of work that has changed.
And the control of food has been used as a weapon for centuries. But we all know that.
We have a chicken outfit here in the county. Lots of egg and broiler houses. Grain chicken food mill in the.next county. A few miles south of town we have a big processing plant. Reputedly the most modern advanced plant in the nation. The fear was that we would be over run with illegalls. That has not happened. Locals have taken those jobs. They pay double what the factory jobs here before paid. We have had Marshall Islanders move in to work there. They don't cause extra trouble here in town. They are passive quiet people from what I see. They go to work and come home tired and rest. No gang activity yet. I would rather have them in the community than unemployed white people laying around all day collecting welfare.