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Posted By: LRoyJetson Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
The Eighth Amendment states, "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

Under what metric is "excessive" defined ?
Who gets to determine that ?

Seems awful ambiguous depending on where you sit.
Posted By: Bwana_1 Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
Supreme Court ?
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
If ever there was a case for the 8th, this is it.

kwg
Posted By: earlybrd Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
Was reading a article on that earlier
Posted By: RMiller2 Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
Doesn't apply to election interference.
Posted By: benchman Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
I imagine requiring Trump to get the biggest bond in history, lends one to assume that it is excessive.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
Originally Posted by benchman
I imagine requiring Trump to get the biggest bond in history, lends one to assume that it is excessive.

Fact. People being led from Dark to Light. Its The Great Awakening.
Posted By: LRoyJetson Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
Obviously it (excessive) will be different for every person, what is excessive ?
Individual judges get to decide ? There are no guidelines ?
Seems an easy way to validate a vendetta, clearly easy to abuse.
Posted By: Sycamore Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
civil case vs criminal.

it's not a criminal fine or bail to postpone imprisonment.

civil law. either pay the judgement or get a bond for the judgement in order to appeal.
Posted By: Longbob Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
Originally Posted by Sycamore
civil case vs criminal.

it's not a criminal fine or bail to postpone imprisonment.

civil law. either pay the judgement or get a bond for the judgement in order to appeal.

The Eighth Amendment also protects against excessive civil fines, as noted in Hudson v. United States, 522 U.S. 93 (1997). In addition to monetary payments, the excessive fines clause applies to forfeitures of property, as held in Austin v. United States, 509 U.S. 602 (1993)
Posted By: Simplepeddler Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
Ask my bride, she seems to know the definition of excessive when I'm drinking bourbon.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: Pres. Trump and 8A - 03/20/24
If I can’t pay it, it’s excessive….and I can’t pay it!

It did take the focus off the Biden impeachment inquiry held today though, so mission accomplished.
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