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The Eighth Amendment states, "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
Under what metric is "excessive" defined ? Who gets to determine that ?
Seems awful ambiguous depending on where you sit.
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If ever there was a case for the 8th, this is it.
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Was reading a article on that earlier
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Doesn't apply to election interference.
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I imagine requiring Trump to get the biggest bond in history, lends one to assume that it is excessive.
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I imagine requiring Trump to get the biggest bond in history, lends one to assume that it is excessive. Fact. People being led from Dark to Light. Its The Great Awakening.
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Obviously it (excessive) will be different for every person, what is excessive ? Individual judges get to decide ? There are no guidelines ? Seems an easy way to validate a vendetta, clearly easy to abuse.
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civil case vs criminal.
it's not a criminal fine or bail to postpone imprisonment.
civil law. either pay the judgement or get a bond for the judgement in order to appeal.
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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civil case vs criminal.
it's not a criminal fine or bail to postpone imprisonment.
civil law. either pay the judgement or get a bond for the judgement in order to appeal. The Eighth Amendment also protects against excessive civil fines, as noted in Hudson v. United States, 522 U.S. 93 (1997). In addition to monetary payments, the excessive fines clause applies to forfeitures of property, as held in Austin v. United States, 509 U.S. 602 (1993)
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Ask my bride, she seems to know the definition of excessive when I'm drinking bourbon.
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If I can’t pay it, it’s excessive….and I can’t pay it!
It did take the focus off the Biden impeachment inquiry held today though, so mission accomplished.
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