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LIBERTY TOWNSHIP, Ohio (WXIX/Gray News) – A high school English teacher in Ohio is facing termination after she allegedly called out of work sick for two days to attend a concert in Nashville, Tennessee, district records show.

Eileen Washburn, an English teacher at Lakota West High School in the Lakota Local School District, is currently on unpaid leave as she faces potential termination.

Not only is Washburn a teacher, but she is also a member of the board of education at another nearby school district, Loveland City School District, according to its website.

Both districts are in the northern suburbs of Cincinnati.



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What concert?
I'm from that area Lakota & West Chester, Ohio had the hottest looking women in the region.
A local grocery store manager once fired a union clerk over similar issues. About a month later, he was out of a job.
Dang,

I thought this was the Jimmy Olsen about that teacher they disciplined down in Texas.


She was teachin them chillins to spell tater with a "p".
I'd hafta see a picture of the broad, ta decide if the termination was warranted or not.
So, they were upset that she was out for two days, now she's out forever... brilliant!
This is an example where I think sick days and vacation days seperated is a fawkin reeeeeetawdid scheme. It's a paid day off, who cares if it's a physical or mental 'sick' day.

Hopefully she can get hired at a private skool, and get away from those jealous T\/\/ATS.
When the worthless dipschidts I worked for in the Nashville school system stopped honoring Veterans' Day, I managed to "get sick" every year on that day- - - - -sick of the sniveling cowards who refused to respect the pepole who kept their sorry azzes free!
Originally Posted by BALLISTIK
This is an example where I think sick days and vacation days seperated is a fawkin reeeeeetawdid scheme. It's a paid day off, who cares if it's a physical or mental 'sick' day.

Hopefully she can get hired at a private skool, and get away from those jealous T\/\/ATS.
Which is why employers are moving to PTO rather than sick days and leave days.
Posted By: las Re: Teacher suspended without pay - 04/05/24
Doug was a Jr Hi teacher- not a very good one either, but he had tenure. Several weeks before, he had asked for the day off so he could fish the commercial halibut opener..

Denied.

Called in sick.

Principal called his boat. Doug answered.


Fired!

Breach of contract will do that.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by BALLISTIK
This is an example where I think sick days and vacation days seperated is a fawkin reeeeeetawdid scheme. It's a paid day off, who cares if it's a physical or mental 'sick' day.

Hopefully she can get hired at a private skool, and get away from those jealous T\/\/ATS.
Which is why employers are moving to PTO rather than sick days and leave days.


PTO is designed to screw with employees.
It’s usually requested and can be denied.

We get vacation, and sick/personal days.
After 3 consecutive sick days they can ask for a
doctors excuse, otherwise their use is personal.
You don’t have to ask, they can’t be denied.

P/S days are the last thing I use.
It’s not an issue where I work now, used to be.
It’s nice to have a few earned days that are actually yours to control. Ironically, if not used at the end of the year, P/S days are lost, vacation is paid.
Sick days and time off are separate at my work. I would guess that they are not comingled because of accounting writeoff differences, and that the expectation of proof if sick allowance is suspected of being abused. To summarize, I don't think additional sick time is provided out of goodness of the company's heart. It is accounting at work, subsidized by the government.
We have sick days and vacation days in Texas, all you have to give is 24 hours notice.
So i guess my question is how did she get caught ? Oh let me guess she posted photos of her self at the concert. Friggen dumb azz people, anyone who has sick days have abused them , myself included. But don't make it public ….
Is it not possible to attend a concert sick?
Back in the early 1980s, it had become well known at the sporting goods store I was working at (Hunting, Fishing, Camping, Department) that me and someone else (and his kids) in that department were planning to call in sick to go deer hunting. The general manager assured us both that if we called in sick for those days, we would be out of a job.

Well, I got up early for the hunt, and planned to call in sick, but by freak accident stubbed my toe, breaking it, and really should have called in sick, because my big toe was now too big and painful for shoe wearing.

Of course the hunt was off as far as I was concerned, but the other guy (also of the Hunting, Fishing, Camping, Department) did call in sick, go hunting with his kids, and was fired. I, on the other hand, now had to show up to work if I didn't want to both miss a hunting trip and get fired.

No one would have believed I was legitimately unable to come to work, so I had to cut the front off of one of my sneakers in order to wear a shoe on that foot with the broken toe. The general manager looked at me suspiciously the entire day.
My son lives in Liberty Twp. His son is only 4 and goes to pre school. I used to work with a guy who marked off sick because they wouldn’t let him off to go to a Buckeyes home football game. I personally would not use sick time for a concert or ball game. Just how I used to roll.

Ron
They wouldn’t give you sick days if they didn’t want you to use them
I worked with a woman who called out sick then ended up on the news after her dog won an Ugly Dog Contest.
Originally Posted by 10Glocks
I worked with a woman who called out sick then ended up on the news after her dog won an Ugly Dog Contest.
Oh crap!
She took “mental health days”, I’ve never heard of a teacher getting fired for that so long as you don’t abuse it. Most Admins got enough to do already then check on you, especially if you’re a valued staff member and it ain’t like they’ve never done it.

I’ve got about a whole school contract year’s worth of unused sick days accumulated by now so I ain’t the one to ask but all I know is more teachers get sick on Friday than any other day, even more so before a three day weekend.
Posted By: Dess Re: Teacher suspended without pay - 04/05/24
Originally Posted by hanco
They wouldn’t give you sick days if they didn’t want you to use them

Sorry, I have to disagree. My company offered sick days, but often punished people for using them. Granted, we had people who abused the policy and used every single minute of sick time as their vacation time. These people would then get ill or injured and then whine when their sick time went unpaid. The company retaliated against everyone. They'd try to bully and shame people who rarely took any sick allotments. Indeed, they took it as a personal insult for vacation time too.

Our work week, for accounting purposes started on Sunday and went through Saturday. Traditionally, vacation days for people was scheduled Monday through Friday. In addition, you weren't usually scheduled to work the weekend before or after a 40 hour vacation week. This meant a person who had a vacation scheduled had 9 continuous days away from work. We had a little tyrant who would deliberately schedule someone the last Saturday before a vacation week and the first Sunday following a vacation. So instead of getting 9 days away, you got only 7. Moreover, he would "forget" to post the schedule in a timely manner so someone who was on vacation would get a "no show" on the Sunday following vacation. This prick would also "forget" to sign your timesheet during your vacation and thus cause havoc with your finances.
If she wanted to go to a concert, could she have found one during the 3 months she doesn't have to work?

The modern day teacher, on average, is a worthless leftist fùck.
Mom taught for 30 years+.
Kid Sis has taught for 20.

Ain’t no fuggin’ way I’d do it. The kids can be bad, but putting up with administration would make it a very short lived career for me.
While in junior college,several of us cut classes to go deer hunting when Mississippi first started having populations large enough to hunt. You had to have a note presented to the Academic Dean, Dean Thigpen, to be excused. Mine passed although I don’t think he read it closely enough. I missed school to attend a “ deer” friend’s funeral. It was the truth.
Dean Thigpen was a great man, taught Biology and science. In his latter years, he taught for the princely sum of one dollar per year and lived in academic housing. He was an old bachelor and brilliant , much loved.
As a school principal, I’ve seen the flip side of this. No way in hell could I find 36 substitute teachers on the day of the Canton Flea Market, held in the fall and the spring. It’s a big craft festival and draws thousands. We had to change the employee policy manual to address this.
Originally Posted by Dess
Originally Posted by hanco
They wouldn’t give you sick days if they didn’t want you to use them

Sorry, I have to disagree. My company offered sick days, but often punished people for using them. Granted, we had people who abused the policy and used every single minute of sick time as their vacation time. These people would then get ill or injured and then whine when their sick time went unpaid. The company retaliated against everyone. They'd try to bully and shame people who rarely took any sick allotments. Indeed, they took it as a personal insult for vacation time too.

Our work week, for accounting purposes started on Sunday and went through Saturday. Traditionally, vacation days for people was scheduled Monday through Friday. In addition, you weren't usually scheduled to work the weekend before or after a 40 hour vacation week. This meant a person who had a vacation scheduled had 9 continuous days away from work. We had a little tyrant who would deliberately schedule someone the last Saturday before a vacation week and the first Sunday following a vacation. So instead of getting 9 days away, you got only 7. Moreover, he would "forget" to post the schedule in a timely manner so someone who was on vacation would get a "no show" on the Sunday following vacation. This prick would also "forget" to sign your timesheet during your vacation and thus cause havoc with your finances.

How long did you work for such a company or are you still working for them?
They wanted to fire her anyway. This was their golden moment. Duh.
About 20 years ago we got rid of the whole vacation leave and sick leave BS. It gets too much into the weeds about how to handle each one. What we had a problem with would be if someone ran out of vacation and wanted to take off, they'd call in sick so you didn't see it coming until that day. We went to PTO (Paid Time Off). I don't give a schit why. This way if they want to do something, I can plan on it. They accrue it based on hours worked and time of service. Anybody can take off whenever they want as long as we have enough guys to operate. It sucks being short handed, but people have their lives outside of work.

The problem I have is when you have guys (mainly younger guys) that use their PTO as fast as they accrue it and then take off more time with no pay. They always seem like the guys that are struggling financially and need a raise. Every time one of them asks for a raise, I tell them that they can give themselves a raise just by coming to work every day. Then they won't be losing overtime. Other guys (mainly older guys), want to hoard their PTO and will take off without pay. Then when they get to the point that they're going to lose those hours, they scramble around and take off even though they don't need to at the end of each year. That doesn't make sense. I can pay you now or I can pay you later, but if you don't use them by the end of the following year, you'll lose them. Why not just use the PTO when you take off and if a unforeseen health problem arises, then take off no pay.
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
If she wanted to go to a concert, could she have found one during the 3 months she doesn't have to work?

Riiiiiight . . . cuz your fav band is always playing nearby when it's convenient for you.

I'm flying down to Colorado to see one of my fav bands play at Red Rocks in August.
There is more to this story.

Most school systems give teachers about 3 personal days that can be used for anything and 10 sick days/year. Unused sick days roll over and build up. It is usually handled by the principal, not at the county level. You generally have to put in for personal days a week or 2 in advance, but most principals will work with employees if unexpected things come up. Everyone needs a "Mental Health" sick day from time to time and 99.99% of the time nothing is ever said unless someone is abusing the system.

Chances are good there is a back story here and they were looking for a reason to fire her.
We had vacation and five paid personal days. Sick time was on the company, for when someone was actually sick, and didn’t accrue. Time on the job determined if you were paid for the first sick days, and also how many sick days you were paid for in case of a serious illness. Sick time wasn’t extra vacation, and if you got caught using it that way you would be disciplined, up to and including termination.

The rules are the rules. If that teacher violated them, then the discipline is deserved.
Always told my crews to just man up. If you want to take a day "Call in well" and just tell me you need a day. As above, don't "Call in sick" and then I see your mug on the News...
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
LIBERTY TOWNSHIP, Ohio (WXIX/Gray News) – A high school English teacher in Ohio is facing termination after she allegedly called out of work sick for two days to attend a concert in Nashville, Tennessee, district records show.

Eileen Washburn, an English teacher at Lakota West High School in the Lakota Local School District, is currently on unpaid leave as she faces potential termination.

Not only is Washburn a teacher, but she is also a member of the board of education at another nearby school district, Loveland City School District, according to its website.

Both districts are in the northern suburbs of Cincinnati.



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Good, glad to see admin has some balls.

Sick leave is insurance against the possibility of illness and loss of paycheck. I have no use for those who abuse it.

How much of your homeowners or auto insurance will you get back at the end of the year if you don't use it?
Originally Posted by JMR40
There is more to this story.

Most school systems give teachers about 3 personal days that can be used for anything and 10 sick days/year. Unused sick days roll over and build up. It is usually handled by the principal, not at the county level. You generally have to put in for personal days a week or 2 in advance, but most principals will work with employees if unexpected things come up. Everyone needs a "Mental Health" sick day from time to time and 99.99% of the time nothing is ever said unless someone is abusing the system.

Chances are good there is a back story here and they were looking for a reason to fire her.
"Mental health day".....LOL

Never heard that from any but Democrat females.
We have permissive leave. No limit. As long as the work is getting completed and customers are not yelling.
Originally Posted by Orion2000
Always told my crews to just man up. If you want to take a day "Call in well" and just tell me you need a day. As above, don't "Call in sick" and then I see your mug on the News...

Yeah, no schit. I always love it when someone's wife or "Ole Lady" calls in for him. Like you're too sick to pick up the phone and call?
Originally Posted by Fubarski
I'd hafta see a picture of the broad, ta decide if the termination was warranted or not.

Eileen Washburn

https://www.lovelandschools.org/Page/125
There must be a back story about getting fired for sick days. They wanted her gone. There are no “mental health days" in the contract. She violated the sick days rules, the consequences are clearly spelled out in the contract.


Contract


Public school teachers in northern Cincinnati suburbs are extremely well compensated. It would be advisable to live by the terms of the contract. She chose not to.

She is also a member of the Loveland Board of Education. In my opinion, the Loveland BOE lacks transparency, mis-represents the facts about the district’s financial position, and runs the schools for the sole benefit of the teachers union, while the students and taxpayers take a back seat on all decisions.

Unionized public education is a disaster.
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by BALLISTIK
This is an example where I think sick days and vacation days seperated is a fawkin reeeeeetawdid scheme. It's a paid day off, who cares if it's a physical or mental 'sick' day.

Hopefully she can get hired at a private skool, and get away from those jealous T\/\/ATS.
Which is why employers are moving to PTO rather than sick days and leave days.
PTO is designed to screw with employees.
It’s usually requested and can be denied.

We get vacation, and sick/personal days.
After 3 consecutive sick days they can ask for a
doctors excuse, otherwise their use is personal.
You don’t have to ask, they can’t be denied.

P/S days are the last thing I use.
It’s not an issue where I work now, used to be.
It’s nice to have a few earned days that are actually yours to control. Ironically, if not used at the end of the year, P/S days are lost, vacation is paid.
My experience has been different.

The intent, of course, is to discourage abuse if SL.

Call in sick and it reduces vacation time. If truly needed, employees will take it regardless.
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