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'TOLD YA SO'
Mon Jun 08 2009 10:29:02 ET

Sarah Palin hits FOXNEWS tonight for the big 'Told Ya So' interview, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

As President Obama vows to spend the 'stimulus' faster, Governor Palin tells host Sean Hannity: 'You gotta quit digging that hole!'

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HANNITY: What do you make of � look at the state of the economy now...

PALIN: Well, when you consider that the federal government is about eleven trillion dollars in debt, and we�re borrowing more to spend more.. it defies any sensible economic policy that any of us ever learned through college. It defies economy practices and principles that tell ya �you gotta quit digging that hole when you are in that financial hole�

Palin continues:

"America is digging a deeper hole and how are we paying for this government largesse. We�re borrowing. We�re borrowing from China and we consider that now we own sixty percent of GENERAL MOTORS � or the U.S. government does� But who is the U.S. government becoming more indebted to? It�s China. So that leads you to have to ask who is really going to own our car industry than in America."

HANNITY: You know but it goes back - It does go back a little to the campaign. I mean, �spread the wealth, patriotic duty��

PALIN: Kind of a �we told ya so�.

HANNITY: Well, is that how you feel?

PALIN: That�s how I feel! I feel like� and I think that more and more constituents are going to open their eyes now and open their ears to hear what is really going on and realize ok� Maybe we didn�t have a good way of expressing that, or articulating that message of �here is what America could potentially become if we grow government to such a degree that we cannot pay for it and we have to borrow money from other countries, some countries that don�t necessarily like America.

And this many months into the new administration, quite disappointed, quite frustrated with not seeing those actions to rein in spending, slow down the growth of government. Instead Sean it is the complete opposite. It�s expanding at such a large degree that if Americans aren�t paying attention, unfortunately our country could evolve into something that we do not even recognize.

HANNITY: Socialism?

PALIN: Well, that is where we are headed. That is where we have to be blunt enough and candid enough and honest enough with Americans to let them know that if we keep going down these roads� nationalizing many of our services, our projects, our businesses, yes that is where we would head. And that is why Americans have to be paying attention. And we have to have our voices heard. And ultimately it need to be our will, the American people�s will imposed on Washington, instead of the other way around.

The interview is set to air tonight on FOXNEWS, 9 PM ET.
I still like this lady.
I'd still like her if she looked like Janet Reno.
Originally Posted by tzone
I still like this lady.
Me too.. 'Course, she states WAY TOO MUCH common sense for the morons on the left to comprehend..

'Liberal common sense' is an oxymoron...
for all the hate and discontent she stirred up on the left, and among the RINOS, ya gotta know she scares the crap out of them.
Good for her!
I didn't vote for McCain, I voted for Palin and whoever was running with her. I'll vote for her again if given the opportunity. Is there really only one person like her, a true conservative, in the entire Republican party???
$11 trillion in debt. Unconscionable. But almost $5 trillion of that was under Bush, and that's where the bailouts started too. There's plenty of blood on both party's hands.

The solution is a balanced budget requirement. And a balanced budget means cutting spending and (unfortunately) raising taxes. The democrats are great at spending, but so are the Republicans. And cutting taxes while increasing spending is a recipe for disaster.

47 states face budget shortfalls (including Alaska whih is 6.8% short of the FY2009 general fund). Critiques are all very well and good. But we all know what the problem is. How about a solution?
Now THAT'S commitment !
Solution? Um, follow the Constitution?
In further news, Palin was exonerated of all wrongdoing in her political corruption investigation. Said investigation cost 1/3 of a Billion dollars.

Plinker reporting.
Originally Posted by Tod
$11 trillion in debt. Unconscionable. But almost $5 trillion of that was under Bush, and that's where the bailouts started too. There's plenty of blood on both party's hands.

The solution is a balanced budget requirement. And a balanced budget means cutting spending and (unfortunately) raising taxes. The democrats are great at spending, but so are the Republicans. And cutting taxes while increasing spending is a recipe for disaster.

47 states face budget shortfalls (including Alaska whih is 6.8% short of the FY2009 general fund). Critiques are all very well and good. But we all know what the problem is. How about a solution?


Ya just got to throw that in there didn't you?
George Bush was not a true conservative, granted.
BUT, he was a Hell of as lot better than what we have now don't you think?

The Republican Party screwed the pooch after they had an opportunity to turn things around, starting with "The Contract With America".
They proved that they were nothing but politicians, barely better than Democrats, spending money like a horny sailor on shore leave.

A balanced budget sounds nice, but the only real way to do it is political suicide for most, to cut social spending instead of the extortion politicians use by cutting police and fireman first. That dead albatross is going to put us under if no-one gets a handle on it.
Sure wish she would concentrate on Alaska before getting all worked up over the next presidential run. Lots of unhappy folks up here........
She has my vote if she runs in 2012
If that's what she thinks,...why did she agree to be a running mate to McCain?

He was all for ther bailouts,.....even took time off from his campaign to rush back to D.C. and vote for them.
Sarah Palin, brains and beauty. I don't think we've seen the last of her.
Originally Posted by m_stevenson

George Bush was not a true conservative, granted.
BUT, he was a Hell of as lot better than what we have now don't you think?


Bush: Undermined individual liberty with executive orders. Raised the national debt $5 trillion. Took us into two wars on false premises.

Obama: Continues to undermine individual liberty buy supporting wireless wiretapping, restriction of freedom of speech (planned), etc. Raising nationakl debt by over $1 trillion in first year. Continuing two wars.

Is one better than the other. Frankly, there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference when it comes to action.

Bush did cut taxes, but without any corresponding cuts in spending, which did a lot to increase the national debt.

Our fiscal problems did not start in January 2009.
Originally Posted by TNrifleman
Sarah Palin, brains and beauty. I don't think we've seen the last of her.


I'm waiting for the brains part. She certainly hasn't shown her intellectual powers yet. Crafty maybe. She's no Bill Buckley.
*yawn* Here we go again, it's all Bush's fault, can't you come up with something better than that? If Obama continues to spend like he is he will outspend Bush in his first year in office. Truely something to be proud of....
Bush and crew took a hard left turn. I think Rove and others were concerned with trying to get leftest votes to keep Republicans in power. Very stupid idea, but those folks don't live in the real world.
Just because Bush and company showed how to do it wrong does not serve to justify the socialist Obama doing even more of the same.
Originally Posted by Tod



Bush:

Undermined individual liberty with executive orders.
Raised the national debt $5 trillion.
Took us into two wars on false premises.

Obama:

Continues to undermine individual liberty by supporting wireless wiretapping, restriction of freedom of speech (planned), etc.

Raising national debt by over $1 trillion in first year.

Continuing two wars.

Tod:

Surreptitiously ran for public office on the Republican ticket, but did not vote for the leader of the Party.

Assisted in the election of Obama by witholding his vote for McCain.

Constantly offers advice on Presidential policy yet has absolutely no qualifications for doing so.


Is one better than the other. Frankly, there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference when it comes to action.

Nope, there sure isn't.......

The scary thing is: We could of had John and her running the country. We'd be in even worse and deeper than we are now, trying to dig out of Bush's mess and failures. BO with bring this country back. Just give him time. Bush messed it totally up in only 8 years. That won't be repaird overnight.
Totally wrong! Obama is DESTROYING America faster than an other president we've ever had. mad

This is why we are in the mess we're in today folks! mad
Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Sure wish she would concentrate on Alaska before getting all worked up over the next presidential run. Lots of unhappy folks up here........



Yep, they're called liberals.
to where?
Originally Posted by TNrifleman
Sarah Palin, brains and beauty. I don't think we've seen the last of her.


I hear ya and dig her too.

Just wish (for our sake) she didn't come off soundin' like the Sheriff from "Fargo"...ya know. Geez... wink laugh
That's it... she does sound like the Fargo Sheriff. At this point it could work in our favor... about as outside the pompus beltway as you can get....
Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Sure wish she would concentrate on Alaska before getting all worked up over the next presidential run. Lots of unhappy folks up here........


Yeah......... No chitt. We need to shovel the crap out of our own backyard before we go digging elsewhere.
Originally Posted by hunter01
The scary thing is: We could of had John and her running the country. We'd be in even worse and deeper than we are now, trying to dig out of Bush's mess and failures. BO with bring this country back. Just give him time. Bush messed it totally up in only 8 years. That won't be repaird overnight.


Now that's some funny chit. I'll agree the Bush [bleep] up and started the country down this trail of bailouts and out of control spending but I really don't think Oshithead is going to fix anything.

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BO with bring this country back.
Back where? To the stone age with his Islamist buddies?
"Back where? To the stone age with his Islamist buddies?"


Lol!

Our muslim dingleBarry is soon going to be between a rock and a hard place on numerous counts.

Anti-gun crowd (liberals) is already starting to distrust him. Same for the anti-war crowd (more liberals). Devaluation of food stamp dollars means starving liberals. Going green will force welfare recipients (liberals) to suffer in cold and hot weather. Free healthcare will reduce the quality and more liberals will suffer. Blacks are looked upon as animals in the eyes of islam... more suffering obama supporters. And what the heck is he gonna do when muslims start beheading homos?

Pretty soon all the liberals are going to hate this usless PO(TU)S. It's gonna be funny.

Not to worry. He'll still have his lovely wife, JR1942, Hunter01, dlrow and JeffO. grin

Ran into her at the airport a few days ago. She's even shorter than she looks on TV, and even in running paints, smoking hot!
there's an image I don't mind smile
Originally Posted by BW
Ran into her at the airport a few days ago. She's even shorter than she looks on TV, and even in running paints, smoking hot!


At last, the voice of reason! smile
"That's it... she does sound like the Fargo Sheriff. At this point it could work in our favor... about as outside the pompus beltway as you can get.... "

What is wrong with that? Would it be better if she sounded like a north easterner? How about a faint British accent? I hope our next president sounds like someone who has good ideas- geography does not mean much.
Originally Posted by hunter01
The scary thing is: We could of had John and her running the country. We'd be in even worse and deeper than we are now, trying to dig out of Bush's mess and failures. BO with bring this country back. Just give him time. Bush messed it totally up in only 8 years. That won't be repaird overnight.


See, kids.... this is what will happen to you if you skip school, sniff glue and bugger the neighbor's dog.

Don't be that guy.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Sure wish she would concentrate on Alaska before getting all worked up over the next presidential run. Lots of unhappy folks up here........



Yep, they're called liberals.
I know lots of folks that aren't happy with the road she's on and they aren't liberals....
She sure has screwed the pouch here in Alaska with the fuel tax at the producer level.


I want the women out of office and I will be happy to see her go. I have seen the international news and have to say I totally disagree with there evaluation of Sarah Palin. She is no conservative, if she was she would have cut state government. I'm sick of people pretending to be something they are not, for political advantage. She has proven once and for all to be like John Mcshame.
Well, you could be California or a host of blue states that are teetering on bankruptcy.
She is an intellectual lightweight who does not have the gravitas or intelligence to capture independent voters in sufficient numbers for the Republicans to win in 2012. As an example, look as her grammer and syntax in the Hannity interview, She is such a simpleton. She is in over her head---and I say that as a rock-ribbed conservative.
Originally Posted by RobJordan
She is an intellectual lightweight who does not have the gravitas or intelligence to capture independent voters in sufficient numbers for the Republicans to win in 2012. As an example, look as her grammer and syntax in the Hannity interview, She is such a simpleton. She is in over her head---and I say that as a rock-ribbed conservative.


Yeah, the community organizer was so much better prepared to lead.

Truman was a simpleton. Bush 43 and LBJ were hardly orators of the highest caliber. Grammar and syntax? And that's grammar with an "a", by the way.

I don't know if she is an answer, but the bar has been lowered so far for the office that I hardly consider grammar and syntax as important as say... integrity and intent.
I've met Sarah. As Governor, Sarah has helped our community get out from under some onerous bureaucrats......I like Sarah a lot, but I do not consider her as presidential material....but we have elected several that are not presidential material: Obama, W, Clinton, CARTER etc.....
I agree there's not much difference between Dems and Repubs. Both are so concerned with getting reelected and buying votes with welfare dollars they've lost their backbone to stand for the principles upon which our country was founded. Again, I must ask...Is this really the best we can put forward for the highest office in our country? Where are the Jeffersons, Franklins, Washingtons, Madisons? Are there none anywhere to be found? Why do we continually have to vote for the candidate who will do the least damage rather than the one who will do the most good?
She was right on last night when she said we were heading towards Socialism. And the other media coverage I saw of her this morning surprisingly didn't put too much of a liberal spin. I would almost say they presented her pretty objectively, almost. I think the media must be getting chapped lips or something cause even they aren't kissing BO's ass as much anymore.
Originally Posted by Foxbat
Well, you could be California or a host of blue states that are teetering on bankruptcy.
Yeah but, we are not...
Originally Posted by Foxbat
Originally Posted by RobJordan
She is an intellectual lightweight who does not have the gravitas or intelligence to capture independent voters in sufficient numbers for the Republicans to win in 2012. As an example, look as her grammer and syntax in the Hannity interview, She is such a simpleton. She is in over her head---and I say that as a rock-ribbed conservative.


Yeah, the community organizer was so much better prepared to lead.

Truman was a simpleton. Bush 43 and LBJ were hardly orators of the highest caliber. Grammar and syntax? And that's grammar with an "a", by the way.

I don't know if she is an answer, but the bar has been lowered so far for the office that I hardly consider grammar and syntax as important as say... integrity and intent.



Why isn't that we can find some one with both a razor sharp intellect and true conservative principals?

I suspect that in the next elections that being "plain spoken and folksy" as Sarah is will be strike one. First because the MSM wants someone with that speaks like a Ivy league grad and secondly because in many peoples mind plains spoken = mental lightweight = GWB and I doubt even 4 or 8 years of Obama is going to erase the public's disdain for GWB.

I might say Romney but

Romney isn't a bad speaker and he may be a good manager but I wouldn't say he is true solid conservative. In 8 years we don't need some one who will just steer us a few degrees to the right we need someone who can lead us through some significant changes to undo some of the wrongs of the last 80 years.
Originally Posted by noKnees



Why isn't that we can find some one with both a razor sharp intellect and true conservative principals?


Because our political system weeds out that type. Someone with razor sharp intellect and great managerial skills isn't going into politics. Why would you submit yourself to be at the mercy of the MSM and the Democrat attack machine when you could make millions in business and not drag your family through that?

Look how they attacked Palin and her family? It wasn't because she was folksy, it was because that's how the liberals play the game. Lenin, Stalin and Castro didn't win over their populace with intelligent policies, they did it by cutthroat political guerrilla warfare which the Democrat Party has embraced with the help of the MSM.

Forbes was hyper intelligent and conservative, he ran and couldn't get out of the starting box...why? Because he doesn't have the cult of personality. The average American has an IQ near room temperature, they're not impressed by hyper intelligence, they're impressed by "cool", "Panache" and "swagger". Just read JeffO swooning over Obama all the time, not a bit of substance.

American's have gotten what they deserve because they ignore history and value personality over beliefs.
Originally Posted by Foxbat
Originally Posted by noKnees



Why isn't that we can find some one with both a razor sharp intellect and true conservative principals?


Because our political system weeds out that type. Someone with razor sharp intellect and great managerial skills isn't going into politics. Why would you submit yourself to be at the mercy of the MSM and the Democrat attack machine when you could make millions in business and not drag your family through that?

Look how they attacked Palin and her family? It wasn't because she was folksy, it was because that's how the liberals play the game. Lenin, Stalin and Castro didn't win over their populace with intelligent policies, they did it by cutthroat political guerrilla warfare which the Democrat Party has embraced with the help of the MSM.

Forbes was hyper intelligent and conservative, he ran and couldn't get out of the starting box...why? Because he doesn't have the cult of personality. The average American has an IQ near room temperature, they're not impressed by hyper intelligence, they're impressed by "cool", "Panache" and "swagger". Just read JeffO swooning over Obama all the time, not a bit of substance.

American's have gotten what they deserve because they ignore history and value personality over beliefs.


You nailed it. We could have had Steve Forbes and we ended up with GW. We Republicans have no one to blame but ourselves.
Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Sure wish she would concentrate on Alaska before getting all worked up over the next presidential run. Lots of unhappy folks up here........


It would be nice if she practised what she preached. IMO
Out of curiousity , what all has Sarah done as Alaska's governor that has not been of a conservative nature ??


As far as her accent goes, she just sounds like all the folks around these parts.....it'ud be a welcome relief from Bammy's arrogant rhetoric.
Originally Posted by hunter01
BO with bring this country back. Just give him time. Bush messed it totally up in only 8 years. That won't be repaird overnight.



did someone leave the "dumbasses welcome" sign on? Obama has done more damage to the Republic in six months than any president in history....and he's going to keep on doing it full speed ahead while he has his congressional majority and the government owned press on board. People will be looking back on the six year boom under Bush as the good old days......some already are.
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
Out of curiousity , what all has Sarah done as Alaska's governor that has not been of a conservative nature ??


As far as her accent goes, she just sounds like all the folks around these parts.....it'ud be a welcome relief from Bammy's arrogant rhetoric.


Her heavy tax on energy producers was right out of the liberal playbook. That said, she is very conservative, which I like. Her conservatism is what appeals to me about her, but in my opinion, she simply lacks it between the ears.
Actually, if one was to believe the tv machine, there are NO intelligent Republicans. Virtually EVERY conservative was either stupid or just a bumpkin. I guess it takes a really smart human to be clueless as to what their genitals are for, or be able to actually provide for their family, rather than depend on THE GOVERNMENT. And religion, yeah, that is for the weak minded, but only Christianity. The rest are okay. America is also evil. The liberal mind views such things as no cable tv in prison, to be unbearable hardship. Soft minded, and soft bodied, they are dependent on others for their sustenance and thought. This is the America that elected BO. This is not my America. Get out there and vote, people. Don't let them win.
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.
Whether or not Sarah runs for an office, the Republican Party needs to hear her out as the GOP hasn't their poop in a group for some time now.

There is a huge fracture between urban and rural in this country and Sarah represents rural folks as well as anyone.
Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.
Been hitting the bong a little too heavy lately?? What a ridiculous post.
Hunter01 sounds like your typical Youngstown unemployed union idiot. They drink the koolaid a little bit heavy there.
Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.


what liberal handbook did you copy that out of?
have you looked around at what BO has done and what the ramifications are? or are you going to ride that burning plane into the ground because you wont admit its crashing?
Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.



Is it hard to type this crap with obammy's bam-bam dangling between your lips or can you just multi-task? crazy

BP...
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
Out of curiousity , what all has Sarah done as Alaska's governor that has not been of a conservative nature ??


The stuff that bothers me is stuff like Alaska has the highest tax on oil in the world. Some Magazines have likened her to Chavez the dictator in So. America. Either she doesn't believe in capitalism or doesn't support it. The oil companies have really slowed down drilling and exploration because there is just no money in it. The bigger the oil company the more she seems to hate them. She contracted with a Canadian company to lay out the path for the gas pipeline and determine a cost for it because she preferred to NOT work with American oil companies. Then she put in an extremely strict penalty of TRIPLE DAMAGES if someone else comes along after her and tries to get rid of them. She is paying them 1/2 a billion dollars for this when an oil company is doing the same thing as we speak, invested more money and is costing the state NOTHING.

She added over 1000 people to the state payroll her first year. The budget is out of control. There was a state hiring freeze for e months, and something like 536 exceptions were called for and she approved all but 2. If she tries to add an extra $500 million to the budget but ends up knocking out $50 million her take on it is that she took $50 million out ouf the budget...

She hired way to many people in her cabinet that were just old cronies that are so lost they don't know which way to go or what to do. She won't have department meetings and won't give department heads any direction at all. Because she doesn't have a clue. So many of her ways is sounds like McCain.

I do like how she has "managed" wildlife and that she can ignore what people from out of state thinks about her handling of wolves and such to try to get the ungulate population back which is in very poor shape in many areas. I don't dislike her at all I just don't agree with the tax and spenders from either party. She talks a good line but doesn't seem to know how to get there.

Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.


Yes Clinto was so great, lets see he signed into law the worst gun control law ever, he banned several models just because of how they look, he lied to the country, and not about anything important but about getting a BJ from a fat female intern. Oh yes the great Clinton took the balanced budget and the prosperity that this Country Got from a truly great President and a Conservative Majority in Congress and in eight years ran the Country into a recession, that it tokk President Bush a year to get us out of, even after one of the worst attacks in American History. i lived and worked through the Reagan Years, and I lived and worked through the disaster Carter gave this Country. Clinton took office with every thing in pretty good shaPE SO GOOD THAT IT TOOK HIM ALMOST EIGHT YEARS TO RUN US INTO RECESSION. He talked good, but in reality he is a cheat and a liar.And Obama is worse, he really believes the liberal progressive crap.
Originally Posted by Foxbat
Originally Posted by hunter01
The scary thing is: We could of had John and her running the country. We'd be in even worse and deeper than we are now, trying to dig out of Bush's mess and failures. BO with bring this country back. Just give him time. Bush messed it totally up in only 8 years. That won't be repaird overnight.


See, kids.... this is what will happen to you if you skip school, sniff glue and get buggered by the neighbor's dog.

Don't be that guy.


Fixed it for ya. smile
hunter's mad because monica got the stain on her dress and he didn't.
I don't think we are headed for Socialisim, no our republican form of democracy is headed to ogliarchy. That is when the central Gov rules by commitee when elected officials are overruled by appoiontees of thehead of state and the elected Government no longer is responsible for what the Gov is d
Originally Posted by hunter01
We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.


You need to read up on your civics. Presidents don't fund budgets the Congress does. Clinton gave us the largest tax increase in history and proposed huge deficits that a demorap congress approved. When the republicans took control of the Congress in 94, they forced clinton into balanced budgets. Clinton decimated our military to include the females in combat mess, opened the door to the CHICOMS to acquire ballistic missile technology, let Bin Laden go when he was offered to us and was convicted of a felony. The Electoral College did it's job. If we didn't have it the large urban areas, mostly non-taxpaying leeches would elect our presidents. I strongly suggest you take the advice you gave on the last line of your erroneous diatribe. jorge
Originally Posted by hunter01
Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!"


Yeah, someone from Amish country bitching about the electoralcollege.

You obviously have no knowledge of the history behind the electoral college, can't appreciate it as a voter and to make things easy for you it may have something to do with running Amish country like its Chicago....

Take a spelling class along with some American history.
Originally Posted by Foxbat
[ Why would you submit yourself to be at the mercy of the MSM and the Democrat attack machine when you could make millions in business and not drag your family through that?

Look how they attacked Palin and her family? It wasn't because she was folksy, it was because that's how the liberals play the game.


Good thing 'conservatives' don't do stuff like that.

Have you actually read the stuff that gets posted here?
Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.


Now if that isn't a Libtard statement I've never seen one. LOL
Originally Posted by blinddog1
I don't think we are headed for Socialisim, no our republican form of democracy is headed to ogliarchy. That is when the central Gov rules by commitee when elected officials are overruled by appoiontees of thehead of state and the elected Government no longer is responsible for what the Gov is d


We are headed for Fascism as Mussolini defined it: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."

Large corporations with the ability to lobby and influence congress and even the presidency call the shots. The public at large are unimportant. We are moving towards South American fascism, where a small minority control all the wealth and the rest of the populace is working poor or worse. The last several decades have seen a huge migration in wealth from the middle class to the top 1%, and average buying power has declined.

Now the Government has gone so far as to finance big financials out of the taxpayer's pocket, while those same big companies continue to hand out huge bonuses.

As usual, the common man takes it in the a**.
It seems to me she can't please everybody. It was here recently, when everybody was screaming about obscene oil profits, and the Exxon valdez oil spill settlement.
I think she got a little extra well the going was good. The environmentalists are killing our oilfields. Salazar was here a month ago and put a bunch more off limits. I have even heard BP is pulling out, due to too many restrictions (whales and you name it).

There is no doubt as to how the tax increase has benefitted us, even as the oil runs out.



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How the windfall tax works

The tax is imposed on the net profit earned on each barrel of oil pumped from state lands, after deducting costs for production and transportation.
The tax is set at its highest rate in Prudhoe Bay, where the state takes 25 percent of the net profit of a barrel when its price is at or below $52.

The percentage then escalates as oil prices rise over that benchmark.





Most of Alaska's oil production comes from land owned by the state � and leased to the oil companies that look for and extract the crude. But some of the most significant undeveloped resources are in areas owned by the federal government, such as the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge and federal waters in the outer continental shelf. Revenue from oil production there would go mostly to the U.S. Treasury, but the state could claim a small part of it, according to state Department of Revenue officials.


Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Originally Posted by hunter01
BO with bring this country back. Just give him time. Bush messed it totally up in only 8 years. That won't be repaird overnight.



did someone leave the "dumbasses welcome" sign on?


Clearly.
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Bush: Undermined individual liberty with executive orders. Raised the national debt $5 trillion. Took us into two wars on false premises.


The only way to fight the war against the terrorists is to wire-tapping and espionage.

What does "Took us into two wars on false premises." mean ? Afganistan was needed to kill the terrorists and their supporters. Iraq was needed because Saddam would not keep the ceasefire agreement, was attacking our planes and had invaded Kuwait.

Bush had to fight 2 wars and a recession with the devastation caused by 9/11 thrown.

Obama is destroying our economic system.
ahem while we're discussing the Clinton presidency can we bring up the fact that Greenspan gave his "irrational exuberance" speech that sent the stock market reeling when the DOW was at 9K?



shortly after that he back pedaled a fair bit, the budget surpluses were funny money, based on phony corporate profits, artificially low interest rates led to borrow and acquire via mergers, and the public bought right into it as the administration desired them to do so.


Clinton is not dumb, but he is an opportunist, he saw his chance and I'd bet dollars to donuts, he told Greenspan to pipe down and let the good times roll.

if he'd had the integrity to do so, he'd have allowed Greenspan to speak his mind and we wouldn't have had all this false wealth evaporate over the last couple of years and the ensuing problems associated with such.


but alas, if anything was evident, Bill Clinton lacked integrity.

Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
Out of curiousity , what all has Sarah done as Alaska's governor that has not been of a conservative nature ??


The stuff that bothers me is stuff like Alaska has the highest tax on oil in the world. Some Magazines have likened her to Chavez the dictator in So. America. Either she doesn't believe in capitalism or doesn't support it. The oil companies have really slowed down drilling and exploration because there is just no money in it. The bigger the oil company the more she seems to hate them. She contracted with a Canadian company to lay out the path for the gas pipeline and determine a cost for it because she preferred to NOT work with American oil companies. Then she put in an extremely strict penalty of TRIPLE DAMAGES if someone else comes along after her and tries to get rid of them. She is paying them 1/2 a billion dollars for this when an oil company is doing the same thing as we speak, invested more money and is costing the state NOTHING.

She added over 1000 people to the state payroll her first year. The budget is out of control. There was a state hiring freeze for e months, and something like 536 exceptions were called for and she approved all but 2. If she tries to add an extra $500 million to the budget but ends up knocking out $50 million her take on it is that she took $50 million out ouf the budget...

She hired way to many people in her cabinet that were just old cronies that are so lost they don't know which way to go or what to do. She won't have department meetings and won't give department heads any direction at all. Because she doesn't have a clue. So many of her ways is sounds like McCain.

I do like how she has "managed" wildlife and that she can ignore what people from out of state thinks about her handling of wolves and such to try to get the ungulate population back which is in very poor shape in many areas. I don't dislike her at all I just don't agree with the tax and spenders from either party. She talks a good line but doesn't seem to know how to get there.

Ditto! Bravo! Glad to see not everyone has their head's up their azz.
Originally Posted by Mac84
hunter's mad because monica got the stain on her dress and he didn't.

You're one sick, perverted, wackO.
I know more about the electorial college in my thumb than you ever will. You show your ignorance there and also when you suggest that just because someone lives in and about Amish country, that they don't know what's going on. Ignorant [bleep]!
Go ahead, let me hear you explain just WHY the electorial college was established! You don't have a glue. If you did, you'd know why and how it is now outdated and worthless.
Originally Posted by hunter01
I know more about the electorial college in my thumb than you ever will. You show your ignorance there and also when you suggest that just because someone lives in and about Amish country, that they don't know what's going on. Ignorant [bleep]!
Go ahead, let me hear you explain just WHY the electorial college was established! You don't have a glue. If you did, you'd know why and how it is now outdated and worthless.


You may know something about the "electorial college" there hunter01, I have no doubt.

But I believe your knowledge about the ELECTORAL COLLEGE" is the only thing that is relevent here.........
WATTEVAR! (:
Originally Posted by hunter01
I know more about the electorial college in my thumb than you ever will. You show your ignorance there and also when you suggest that just because someone lives in and about Amish country, that they don't know what's going on. Ignorant [bleep]!
Go ahead, let me hear you explain just WHY the electorial college was established! You don't have a glue. If you did, you'd know why and how it is now outdated and worthless.


Your right, I don't have a glue......

Okay smartass. Why the [bleep] would a candidate come to a state (like Iowa) and campaign for votes under your favored system, when they can go get them in a suburb of Chicago without bothering in the sticks?

And someone like you would go there to see them no doubt.

Of course your awful close to the gerry-mandering northeast and union footholds, so your confusion on the matter is granted.

And New York City has no trouble taking elections on population count but would have a hard time feeding its people...

I suppose now you want the fly-over states to lose a Senator too...

Dumbpfuck is you.....
Originally Posted by hunter01
WATTEVAR! (:

I believe you meant to say,"WHATEVER! frown " laugh
Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
Originally Posted by hunter01
WATTEVAR! (:

I believe you meant to say,"WHATEVER! frown " laugh

God, you're good!

Wee chust kant aul bee purrfik lik yew! Mustt bee tha Amish em mie.
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