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Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.


Yes Clinto was so great, lets see he signed into law the worst gun control law ever, he banned several models just because of how they look, he lied to the country, and not about anything important but about getting a BJ from a fat female intern. Oh yes the great Clinton took the balanced budget and the prosperity that this Country Got from a truly great President and a Conservative Majority in Congress and in eight years ran the Country into a recession, that it tokk President Bush a year to get us out of, even after one of the worst attacks in American History. i lived and worked through the Reagan Years, and I lived and worked through the disaster Carter gave this Country. Clinton took office with every thing in pretty good shaPE SO GOOD THAT IT TOOK HIM ALMOST EIGHT YEARS TO RUN US INTO RECESSION. He talked good, but in reality he is a cheat and a liar.And Obama is worse, he really believes the liberal progressive crap.


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The scary thing is: We could of had John and her running the country. We'd be in even worse and deeper than we are now, trying to dig out of Bush's mess and failures. BO with bring this country back. Just give him time. Bush messed it totally up in only 8 years. That won't be repaird overnight.


See, kids.... this is what will happen to you if you skip school, sniff glue and get buggered by the neighbor's dog.

Don't be that guy.


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hunter's mad because monica got the stain on her dress and he didn't.


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I don't think we are headed for Socialisim, no our republican form of democracy is headed to ogliarchy. That is when the central Gov rules by commitee when elected officials are overruled by appoiontees of thehead of state and the elected Government no longer is responsible for what the Gov is d


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Originally Posted by hunter01
We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.


You need to read up on your civics. Presidents don't fund budgets the Congress does. Clinton gave us the largest tax increase in history and proposed huge deficits that a demorap congress approved. When the republicans took control of the Congress in 94, they forced clinton into balanced budgets. Clinton decimated our military to include the females in combat mess, opened the door to the CHICOMS to acquire ballistic missile technology, let Bin Laden go when he was offered to us and was convicted of a felony. The Electoral College did it's job. If we didn't have it the large urban areas, mostly non-taxpaying leeches would elect our presidents. I strongly suggest you take the advice you gave on the last line of your erroneous diatribe. jorge


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Originally Posted by hunter01
Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!"


Yeah, someone from Amish country bitching about the electoralcollege.

You obviously have no knowledge of the history behind the electoral college, can't appreciate it as a voter and to make things easy for you it may have something to do with running Amish country like its Chicago....

Take a spelling class along with some American history.

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[ Why would you submit yourself to be at the mercy of the MSM and the Democrat attack machine when you could make millions in business and not drag your family through that?

Look how they attacked Palin and her family? It wasn't because she was folksy, it was because that's how the liberals play the game.


Good thing 'conservatives' don't do stuff like that.

Have you actually read the stuff that gets posted here?


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Originally Posted by hunter01
It is because of blind azzholes like you that this country is in the mess it is in. You voted for 'Dumbo' TWICE. We DID have a balanced budget when Clinton left office. Those were the good ole days. We never had it so good as when Clinton was in office. Then Bush loses by over 500,000 votes to Gore, but because of the electorial college, which is as outdated as black and white TV, he wins. That was the beginning of the end. "Bush Wins!" Clinton will/is in the history books as one of the best presidents ever. Face it. You'd never admit to that, I know. On the other hand, Bush is also in the history books. In the books as the president to leave office with the LOWEST approval rating of anyone in the history of our nation. Get your head out of your azz and open your eyes.


Now if that isn't a Libtard statement I've never seen one. LOL


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I don't think we are headed for Socialisim, no our republican form of democracy is headed to ogliarchy. That is when the central Gov rules by commitee when elected officials are overruled by appoiontees of thehead of state and the elected Government no longer is responsible for what the Gov is d


We are headed for Fascism as Mussolini defined it: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."

Large corporations with the ability to lobby and influence congress and even the presidency call the shots. The public at large are unimportant. We are moving towards South American fascism, where a small minority control all the wealth and the rest of the populace is working poor or worse. The last several decades have seen a huge migration in wealth from the middle class to the top 1%, and average buying power has declined.

Now the Government has gone so far as to finance big financials out of the taxpayer's pocket, while those same big companies continue to hand out huge bonuses.

As usual, the common man takes it in the a**.


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It seems to me she can't please everybody. It was here recently, when everybody was screaming about obscene oil profits, and the Exxon valdez oil spill settlement.
I think she got a little extra well the going was good. The environmentalists are killing our oilfields. Salazar was here a month ago and put a bunch more off limits. I have even heard BP is pulling out, due to too many restrictions (whales and you name it).

There is no doubt as to how the tax increase has benefitted us, even as the oil runs out.



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The tax is imposed on the net profit earned on each barrel of oil pumped from state lands, after deducting costs for production and transportation.
The tax is set at its highest rate in Prudhoe Bay, where the state takes 25 percent of the net profit of a barrel when its price is at or below $52.

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Originally Posted by Steve_NO
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BO with bring this country back. Just give him time. Bush messed it totally up in only 8 years. That won't be repaird overnight.



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Bush: Undermined individual liberty with executive orders. Raised the national debt $5 trillion. Took us into two wars on false premises.


The only way to fight the war against the terrorists is to wire-tapping and espionage.

What does "Took us into two wars on false premises." mean ? Afganistan was needed to kill the terrorists and their supporters. Iraq was needed because Saddam would not keep the ceasefire agreement, was attacking our planes and had invaded Kuwait.

Bush had to fight 2 wars and a recession with the devastation caused by 9/11 thrown.

Obama is destroying our economic system.



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ahem while we're discussing the Clinton presidency can we bring up the fact that Greenspan gave his "irrational exuberance" speech that sent the stock market reeling when the DOW was at 9K?



shortly after that he back pedaled a fair bit, the budget surpluses were funny money, based on phony corporate profits, artificially low interest rates led to borrow and acquire via mergers, and the public bought right into it as the administration desired them to do so.


Clinton is not dumb, but he is an opportunist, he saw his chance and I'd bet dollars to donuts, he told Greenspan to pipe down and let the good times roll.

if he'd had the integrity to do so, he'd have allowed Greenspan to speak his mind and we wouldn't have had all this false wealth evaporate over the last couple of years and the ensuing problems associated with such.


but alas, if anything was evident, Bill Clinton lacked integrity.


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Out of curiousity , what all has Sarah done as Alaska's governor that has not been of a conservative nature ??


The stuff that bothers me is stuff like Alaska has the highest tax on oil in the world. Some Magazines have likened her to Chavez the dictator in So. America. Either she doesn't believe in capitalism or doesn't support it. The oil companies have really slowed down drilling and exploration because there is just no money in it. The bigger the oil company the more she seems to hate them. She contracted with a Canadian company to lay out the path for the gas pipeline and determine a cost for it because she preferred to NOT work with American oil companies. Then she put in an extremely strict penalty of TRIPLE DAMAGES if someone else comes along after her and tries to get rid of them. She is paying them 1/2 a billion dollars for this when an oil company is doing the same thing as we speak, invested more money and is costing the state NOTHING.

She added over 1000 people to the state payroll her first year. The budget is out of control. There was a state hiring freeze for e months, and something like 536 exceptions were called for and she approved all but 2. If she tries to add an extra $500 million to the budget but ends up knocking out $50 million her take on it is that she took $50 million out ouf the budget...

She hired way to many people in her cabinet that were just old cronies that are so lost they don't know which way to go or what to do. She won't have department meetings and won't give department heads any direction at all. Because she doesn't have a clue. So many of her ways is sounds like McCain.

I do like how she has "managed" wildlife and that she can ignore what people from out of state thinks about her handling of wolves and such to try to get the ungulate population back which is in very poor shape in many areas. I don't dislike her at all I just don't agree with the tax and spenders from either party. She talks a good line but doesn't seem to know how to get there.

Ditto! Bravo! Glad to see not everyone has their head's up their azz.

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hunter's mad because monica got the stain on her dress and he didn't.

You're one sick, perverted, wackO.

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I know more about the electorial college in my thumb than you ever will. You show your ignorance there and also when you suggest that just because someone lives in and about Amish country, that they don't know what's going on. Ignorant [bleep]!
Go ahead, let me hear you explain just WHY the electorial college was established! You don't have a glue. If you did, you'd know why and how it is now outdated and worthless.

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Originally Posted by hunter01
I know more about the electorial college in my thumb than you ever will. You show your ignorance there and also when you suggest that just because someone lives in and about Amish country, that they don't know what's going on. Ignorant [bleep]!
Go ahead, let me hear you explain just WHY the electorial college was established! You don't have a glue. If you did, you'd know why and how it is now outdated and worthless.


You may know something about the "electorial college" there hunter01, I have no doubt.

But I believe your knowledge about the ELECTORAL COLLEGE" is the only thing that is relevent here.........

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Originally Posted by hunter01
I know more about the electorial college in my thumb than you ever will. You show your ignorance there and also when you suggest that just because someone lives in and about Amish country, that they don't know what's going on. Ignorant [bleep]!
Go ahead, let me hear you explain just WHY the electorial college was established! You don't have a glue. If you did, you'd know why and how it is now outdated and worthless.


Your right, I don't have a glue......

Okay smartass. Why the [bleep] would a candidate come to a state (like Iowa) and campaign for votes under your favored system, when they can go get them in a suburb of Chicago without bothering in the sticks?

And someone like you would go there to see them no doubt.

Of course your awful close to the gerry-mandering northeast and union footholds, so your confusion on the matter is granted.

And New York City has no trouble taking elections on population count but would have a hard time feeding its people...

I suppose now you want the fly-over states to lose a Senator too...

Dumbpfuck is you.....

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WATTEVAR! (:

I believe you meant to say,"WHATEVER! frown " laugh

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