My father had a PhD. in psychology, and if I learned one thing from him, it's when people exhibit disruptive behavior in a public forum, there are usually underlying circumstances that cause the person to behave in such a way. I would tend to think that larry exhibits classic symptoms of a personality disorder, probably stemming from his lack of control in his own life, so therefore he attempts to gain some measure of control any way possible, such as by disrupting a forum on the internet.

Think how pathetic your life would have to be, to force you to behave in such a manner. I would hazard a guess that in his world, his wife wears the pants in the family, and he is pretty much under her thumb. I would make this observation based on all the manly bravado that is contained in larry's posts. Obviously, he is insecure about his manhood, as he is constantly trying to prove it to others here on this board.

If you observe his posts, you will see a pattern, where he throws out a reasonable sounding statement, and then includes some short remark intended to incite a measured response. This is done soley to gain attention and gives a feeling of control when he receives the desired response (I believe T.Lee can attest to this). It's very similar to the person who smears excrement on the walls of the public bathrooms to hear people complain of the filth. This forum is larry's sh**house walls.

So when you see larrys posts, instead of getting angry and replying, have a little sympathy for the guy. Be glad that your life is not so miserable that you have to resort to some pathetic grab at attention.

Cracking up here. You is GOOD................

Lawdy mister rick, I do believe I'se will repent an put him back on ignore. You be right Suh, ain't kind to battle wits with an unarmed person. Ignore it is, I am done feeding the troll. Thank ya Suh, for settin' me on the straight and narrow.

Too much slack already. My vote is for pressing the "flush" handle.



I have never used the ignore button on the forum before this turd floated up.



People like him enjoy the attention they get being azzholes. He grins every time one of us diginifies him with a response. He ain't "personality challanged". He just has too much fun being an azzhole.



Stop feeding the troll, please. He will go away... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

For those of you who are feeding the "Troll" here is a small tid bit to ponder:

"Arguing with an Idiot is a lost cause for they will soon bring you down to their level then proceed to beat you with their expirence."

We are stuck with these types until they get bored and go ply their nefariuos trade elsewhere. Looks like this particular variant dosn't have the cajonies to step into a thread that casts aspersions on his lack of character. Seems the "Troll" can dish it out but can't take it. I for one suspect that I am a closet Troll for I like to see them, Trolls, get hammered by those who know how to do it so well. I like to see the pain and the senseless babbling comming from the "Troll" when confronted by intelegent responces. I like the pain I Do I Do.
How ever enough is enough when the Troll begins to make up an unvarifiable past for it self it's time to place on ignore.

Bullwnkl.

Now which Larry are you talking about???? -- no <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I just couldn't resist.

Mr. Martin

Stick where you been. Haven't seen you lately. Glad to see your back.
I put him on Ignore last night before I laid down.

Good Bye Larry. I wish you the best in your miserable life.

I plead guilty as well. Kinda like a car wreck for me, you know someone has done something stupid and it's a waste of a human life.........but I've had to slow down and look anyway <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> 1ak

Considering , my name is mentioned in this subject heading should certainly give me the right to respond. The fact that you claim to your father has PhD. in psychology, doesn't make you qualify to evaluate anyone based on his opinions. Moreover, you are way off base in regards to your analysis of my character. If for no other reason then this paragraph " Think how pathetic your life would have to be, to force you to behave in such a manner. I would hazard a guess that in his world, his wife wears the pants in the family, and he is pretty much under her thumb. I would make this observation based on all the manly bravado that is contained in larry's posts. Obviously, he is insecure about his manhood, as he is constantly trying to prove it to others here on this board." My wife and I have been married 28 years and during that time have been involved to work together in several businesses including one fairly large corporation we started. Raised two children, one formally educated with two degrees and the other attending college today. You guys could only dream of having a wife like mine, and rest assure we both wear the pants in our family. There's one term that comes to mind, it's called male chauvinistic pigs!

We work 6 days a week and our current assignment involves being in Camp for the weekly tour,less much in the way of communications.

I guess I'm in the minority,as Trolls generally crack me up.....................

Larry, you need to understand that I am only trying to understand why a person would act in the manner you have chosen. While I may not be qualified to practice psych, living with a prof. of psych for half of my life has given me some insights into human nature that I would not otherwise have been exposed. Kind of like have a father who's an auto mechanic, if you don't learn anything about fixing engines from him, you weren't paying attention.

As to my hypothesis, it is obviously just a guess as to what drives a person to post immature rhetoric on a forum that most people enjoy as a leisurely way of exchanging useful information. Obviously, you have some issues that drive you to behave in such a manner.

You have somewhat validated my post with your response.
Quote-"My wife and I have been married 28 years and during that time have been involved to work together in several businesses including one fairly large corporation we started."-
&- "You guys could only dream of having a wife like mine, and rest assure we both wear the pants in our family. "
By replying in such a manner, that, by the way, would not be a normal response for most people, you try to paint a picture of yourself as "better" than the average person on this board. Now why would you do that? If you were secure in yourself and your relationship, you would not be here trying to prove to others, and possibly yourself, how wonderful you are. It makes me think that maybe you suffer from low self esteem, perhaps due to your upbringing. As you know, childhood can be quite difficult. (Please refer to the original post and the mention of bravado)

As for your right to respond, it is also my right to make observations on your responses. My only goal in this endeavour is to restore the modicum of decency that existed on this board before you started posting here. Your posts do not bother me in the least, in fact, I find them somewhat interesting from an anylitical point of view. I just wish you had posted here while I was taking my advanced psych class last semester at college. It would have made for some interesting discussions as to what drive the human psyche to need attention, and the lengths some people will go to achieve the attention they crave.

Keep in mind,, you are one that opened this public discussion making reference to my wife and regardless of your motives, where I come from that is about as low class as it gets.

BTW, take your college analysis and stick it up your ass !

I love it when larry gets all intellectual on us. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

PS LOL

Why is it that all Trolls are challenged,to submit original material?

An Original Troll,would be a nice break................

Steve_NO, when he gets mad there are no misspelled words. miles

Stick--yeah, I think he's got a stack of 20 year old gun rags, picking questions out of the tables of contents. Look for "is the revolver obsolete?" and ".22 centerfires for deer?" coming soon to a forum near you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Been reading the thoughts and musings of Larry Martin. No doubt this is the same Larry Martin that started stinking up things over in another hunting shooting forum. His tirade on gun safety in a hunting camp and his dad's camp rules were quite unbelievable. Most of us over there put the fool on ignore and it wasn't too much longer after that he was officially booted from that forum. Larry does have the honor of being the very first person that I have ever put on ignore anywhere. Sorry to see him surface over here.

You are absolutely right, I have been kicked off several so-called hunting forms for the most part about my stand on gun safety and assault weapons. And began your reference to my father's strict hunting camp rules were his not mind. But remember one thing , regardless of how I received here I would never in a million years attack or putdown someone's relative on this form or any other. If someone wants to take issues with my opinions on hunting and other things knock yourself out, but please do not in public put down my family. Unlike the majority here I'm not hiding as a coward behind a screen name,and will consider any comments at them derogatory or otherwise as slander.



best regards

Larry Martin

Okay, since I' new around here, I'll ask these two questions:

1) Larry, if you take so much abuse, have so little in common with the rest of the people on this forum, and dislike the general demeanor as much as it appears that you do, then why do you stick around?

2) And, as much fun as it is (sometimes) to dog-pile on someone who does not share your own views, if the rest of ya'll have as much trouble with larry (or any other "troll") as you seem to, take so little insight from what they have to say, and know that even acknowledging them keeps them around, why don't ya'll just ignore them so they'll go away?

Just a couple of questions I had...

Rickg I see that your playing with the puppet to day. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I believe you have him nailed pretty good.
He is a strange little fellow.

"1) Larry, if you take so much abuse, have so little in common with the rest of the people on this forum, and dislike the general demeanor as much as it appears that you do, then why do you stick around?"

There is several answers to your question, but for the most part the reason I like this form is because of its overall message to the hunting community on religion, camping, rifles, politics and so on. It also gives me an area to try and reflect ideas off others about a personal project I'm working on. But moreover, I really think there's some great people here and regardless of what some believe to be behind my underlying motives or agenda, I truly love to share and learn from others.

Hopefully that answered your question

best regards
Larry Martin

As to the claim of starting a fairly large business (I got that from another post, since I can't read Larrys)-There is a fairly large outfit called L. Martin, -- <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />But it's Lockheed, not Larry

As per: 2).

The Enquirer,WWF/E and Trolls have much fan appeal. A wreck is bound to happen and it's cheap entertainment.

One just needs to consider the source and accept it for what it is. That being said,I've zero doubt an Original Troll would be a big hit....................

Case in point:

Gordon takin' Talledga on a yellow,much sucked.......................

JR. lost that one when he left Waltrip hanging out. I suspect everything is not well at DEI

Much suprised me too. Am thinking(hoping),there was a communications glitch,between JR. and Michael.

Regardless,she was "bump and run",from start to Finish. I dug it..................

I hope so too Stick, but it seems it would be pretty hard not to see that big yellow Napa hood decal in your mirror as he pushes you to the front. Kinda dumb to break away from your only ally

My perceptions might could be miles off,but JR. strikes me as a team player and he and Michael are tight.

That being said,I'd grant that NAPA logo as being pretty hard to miss.....................(grin)

Well as a "feeder" of the troll - I must say this - I have decided to severly cut back the time I am spending here due to only one thing/person.

From now on lawrence won't be getting more from me. I can not take the bs anymore. I know many of you will think I am over reacting but his comments on the military and those who chose to serve instead of being drafted offend me and the job I do. Just like if you don't like what you are watching what is on tv (Mtv comes to mind) you can always turn it off and that is what I am doing.

And to be honest - the campfire just isn't much like home anymore- too much toll and the energy that it takes to fight him off. I will check in from time to time just like you may turn on the tv to see if there is a good re-run of M*A*S*H or cheers but I must say this has really turned into a place I just don't really enjoy- too much wading through the lm bs threads which have no real value to the members here.

I come here to find the things I can't get from any magazine- I am against censorship but there is a point where you remove the cancer- I am just doing that.

LM claimed once that he has posted on over 20 other forums and never received the response he has recieved here IIRC Well he was kicked off another forum- he must have had some reaction!

Gentelmen I bid you good hunting !

"From now on lawrence won't be getting more from me. I can not take the bs anymore. I know many of you will think I am over reacting but his comments on the military and those who chose to serve instead of being drafted offend me and the job I do. Just like if you don't like what you are watching what is on tv (Mtv comes to mind) you can always turn it off and that is what I am doing."



Considering, you used my Christian formal first name, I think it's only right to respond. As someone who claims to be enlisted military looking for a pat on the back for your service to our country, may I suggest G Gordon Liddy. now there's a true patriots

Perhaps I'm outta touch,as the much related "Trolledness" escapes my senses. I scroll through,read what I wish and leave the balance go.

Must admit though,that I find it weird,to think this place is run by Trolls(hardly). I guess I could bust out a pint of my favorite blend and bait a shiny hook and rid the waters of some Troll-esque figures.

To be honest though,when I wipe my ass,I flush the works and never give it an afterthought...............(grin)

Really - my last post---

I have never asked for a pat on the back- the only time I refrenced said job was when YOU called me a freerider or when said information had some bearing on the topic at hand.

I don't claim to be enlisted I AM - unlike you sir- I understand the meaning of service to a community - you haven't provided one here - except for the people who make blood pressure meds.

Service isn't about doing something for the accolades - its about doing a job for a greater cause. I didn't join the Navy to get a row full of medals or to have the rest of the country kiss my butt for the rest of my life- I did it because I want to be able to look my son in the eye when he asks about the current world situation. My family has a military history that goes back to the end of the Civil War- some pretty horendous hardships were had by all- but they never complained - I am not complaining about my service - you try raising a family on 60-70 hrs a week and 1400 a month I would bet yoyur post count would be round 5k by now asking us to tell you you are the best we ever saw and that unless we were just like you we are freeriders. I am not complaining- just asking you to look yourself in the mirror and ask just what you have done to make your situation better - here or in the USA? Or when it was the last time you did something for the good of it and not so people you never met over the internet will bow down and kiss your feet?

I'm done!

Solong Andrew, will miss your thumb, don't forget to write, there are more around the campfire than "you" see. -- no

"I am not complaining- just asking you to look yourself in the mirror and ask just what you have done to make your situation better - here or in the USA? "



With all do respect, you have some facts wrong especially the part about making my situation better, I'm not the one complaining. Moreover , I'm not now or ever have asked anyone to "kiss my ass" for my service to our country. Although in my opinion the drafted veterans of Vietnam need not bow down to anyone. If you're applying the war in Iraq will somehow benefit all of us, I strongly disagree. However, those serving there today are only following orders of our commander in chief and innocent people, women and children are being sacrificed in the name of freedom. There is no honor in that only contented

I shouldn't, but what the hell, Larry in one of your posts you state that you and your wife both wear the pants <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />, like at the same time? you got any pictures? I think I would like to see that.

Some of you guys crack me up!
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Larry, Larry, Larry, you just don't seem to get the point. I am trying to make you see how people at this forum view you, and how do you reply, with more manly bravado, calling names ([bleep] comes to mind) and referring to me as somewhat less of a man because unlike you, I don't broadcast my name over the internet. When you insist on behaving and responding in the manner you have chosen, can't you see it only adds validity to my prior statements about your psychological state.

You say you have been banished from other boards, so it would seem to me that at some point you would have asked yourself "What is it about me that bothers other people so much that they don't want anything to do with me?". If you haven't asked yourself this question, I suggest to you that it is about time you do.

I'm sorry you seem to feel I was insulting your family, as I only meant to speculate on the reasons why your posts always seemed to have a confrontational tone to them. A good example is-"Considering, you used my Christian formal first name, I think it's only right to respond." You see Larry, you have the right to respond to any post on this board, yet you seem to feel the need to justify your responding. I can only speculate as to why you feel the need to justify a response. Clearly, something in your life is amiss that is fueling this need.

I'm sure I will soon be put on the Larry Martin ignore list. It certainly is much easier to ignore reality than it is to deal with it. Just remember Larry, reality is like a 4 lane highway. The centerline is the ultimate reality, but as long as your in one of the four lanes, your not far from reality. Unfortunately Larry, your off four wheeling somewhere in the boonies.

Again, you are the one that opened this discussion making references not only to your fathers Ph.D. of wisdom, but also my wife being the 1 wearing the pants. But to make things even worse you imply now about my "psychological state" as in some kind of expert ass hole.

Larry, why do you continue to be so confrontational? I will give you an example of how to reply in a more civil non-confrontational manner. I will pretend I am you responding to my post

"Rick g, I don't appreciate you bringing my wife into the discussions here on this board. I feel that when references are made to family members, it becomes to personal and may result in lasting bitterness between the persons involved in the exchange. I would hope in your future posts, you would avoid any references to family. As to your fathers academia, I am sure he was an intelligent man. However, I do not feel his accomplishments qualify you to make personal judgements as to my mental well being. I would hope you would refrain from doing so in the future."

Do you see how this differs from-"Again, you are the one that opened this discussion making references not only to your fathers Ph.D. of wisdom, but also my wife being the 1 wearing the pants. But to make things even worse you imply now about my "psychological state" as in some kind of expert ass hole."?

I'm sure you can see how the latter reply is quite hostile, and somewhat illogical, while my pretend reply is non-hostile, well thought out and logical, and has a greater chance of achieving the desired effect.

Larry, from one of the oldest AF military training instructors, (basic training, boot camp to many), try this site. -- no

http.//www.sbar.org/PressAPrint/WeSupportU.htm

Then tell me what you feel!

""Again, you are the one that opened this discussion making references not only to your fathers Ph.D. of wisdom, but also my wife being the 1 wearing the pants. But to make things even worse you imply now about my "psychological state" as in some kind of expert ass hole.""
""However, I do not feel his accomplishments qualify you to make personal judgements as to my mental well being. I would hope you would refrain from doing so in the future.""


This coming from the "quotemaster" hisself... Hmmmm?

BTW, Dale JR fans really showed their colors today....

Pat

You mean kinda like Mortie on AR? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

John

Larry's a little like a paper match, doesn't amount to much unless applied to the proper tender, but than can cause a huge amount of damage.
If we just removed the rest of the material for a fire he would burn out harmlessly
Rember only YOU/WE can prevent "Larry fires"

You got it Tracks, that is why he will now REMAIN on my ignore list no matter what it looks like from other posts he is doing. I have literly shunned him cyberspace wise.

I think that is a good decision. He obviously has some serious mental problems, and gets some kind of sick satisfaction by creating controversy with innate posts. When he can cause people to respond in the manner he desires, it probably gives him an erection.

rick, I am sure Freud could have dedicate much time to him!

Amen. Glad I didn't go the whole way to Alabama and sit through all that, just to watch OJeff drive around for almost 10 miles in yet another televised low-speed chase. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Didn't consider it abandoning his team mate when Wee E ducked in and left Mikey hanging...he saw a hole and occupied it. Gotta do what ya gotta do at that place.

If I ever post another TIC satire on Barnesies again and pizz Art off, can I be a troll too? Or is I already be one? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />