Well, probably not technically, but the same general idea.
While on a walk in the neighborhood a few nights ago, I noticed a neighbor had a pile of fresh cut trees/branches out for collection. Still all connected together with the twigs and branches, I saw within it what I thought would be a good shape for a shillelagh, i.e., a traditional Irish style walking stick that can nicely double as a bludgeon, mainly for aggressive dogs, but also potentially for two legged critters where a sidearm might not be an appropriate response.
I used my Gerber lightweight lock blade to cut out the basic shape from the mess and brought it home. Finished cutting off what wasn't a shillelagh, neatly cut it to correct length using a dremel tool with a cutting wheel, used a fixed blade knife (USN Model by Camillus) to whittle off the bark except for the head, which I left natural.
Very nice feel to it in the hand. Excellent weight and balance. Swings very naturally for me when gripped about two-thirds down from the head. Next I want to sand it smooth (except for the head, which will be left natural), dark stain it (maybe a dark reddish brown), and some sort of clear final finish over that. What clear final finish would you folks who've worked with wood recommend? Shellac? Wax? Also, should I hold off on finishing it till it's had a chance to completely dry out?
it wouldn't hurt a thing in the world to show us a picture.
i've got a blackcherry "stick" drying out, something i cut down from beside a muscadine vine. it's pretty long. i'll cut the least diameter at about an inch. the greatest diameter will be at the point the top end is about 6 inches above my elbow.
thought about cutting it at eye level, but it'd be pretty long.
also have a stick made from a japanese barberry pruning. it's keen, but has cracks in it from drying.
Well, that MIGHT take a tire off of a "pickup truck of death", I guess.
I do think he'd be better served duct taping a 2 lb Shaped Charge to the striking end,......a hit just about anywhere should disable the vehicle, and stun the crazed negro operator.
Works as good as a long nightstick in my hands. Trouble is I will have to drop it to draw my pistol if I am in need of firepower as I use it in my right hand.
I gotta cut Hawk a break, some of his stuff is out there IMHO but he really seems like a nice feller. Holds his temper better than I, that is for sure.
You'll want black stain so it looks like traditional Blackthorn the traditional shillelagh.
The traditional shillelagh is about the size and length of the old English quarter staff. When the English occupied Ireland the English outlawed the shillelagh. The Irish being the innovative people they are just cut and finished the shillelagh to be the size and look of an English walking stick. The English couldn't say much because every Englishmen had a walking stick. The rest as they say is history.
Works as good as a long nightstick in my hands. Trouble is I will have to drop it to draw my pistol if I am in need of firepower as I use it in my right hand.
I gotta cut Hawk a break, some of his stuff is out there IMHO but he really seems like a nice feller. Holds his temper better than I, that is for sure.
I bet you can make a cane sing, Terry. That's why I am nice to you about your cats, I don't wanna get bonked over the head with one of them sticks.
PS I knew that about the history of the Shillelagh. Irish couldn't carry weapons, so they lengthened their traditional carry club to a short walking stick length. Brits couldn't deny someone a walking stick.
more weapons to defend against the sea of imaginary enemies that threaten his evening walks.....if my life was that skeery I'd just get a Wi and do my exercise indoors or something.
more weapons to defend against the sea of imaginary enemies that threaten his evening walks.....if my life was that skeery I'd just get a Wi and do my exercise indoors or something.
I guess that's the difference between you and me, Steve.
A good stick was likely one of man's first tool/weapon. One still makes an excellent aid in walking and doubles as a formidable weapon. Suitable sticks are readily available, cheap, and thankfully, not illegal to possess or carry. I often carry a walking stick.
TRH, I'd like to see it after you get it finished. Gotta agree on the black finish too.
That, or cut it in half, connect it with a short length of chain, and you've got half a new set o' numchucks!
What's the obsession you folks have with nunchucks? It's just one among many forms of convenient bludgeons developed by folks looking for a way to defend themselves when prohibited by the state from carrying what the state considered real weapons, which in the old days meant daggers and swords and such. In Ireland, their solution was the shillelagh, where only the British occupiers were permitted to carry edged weapons. In Japan, only Samurai were permitted edged weapons, so the peasants (the vast majority of the population) had to develop techniques for using innocuous looking everyday items as effective tools of self-defense. In the case of the nunchuck (nunchaku), it was a common agricultural tool. The Samurai couldn't complain, after all, if peasants were caught with common ag tools in their possession, so they left them alone. It's been a common theme in many parts of the world throughout the history of human society. Hell, the Brits were in the precess of disarming us when we responded with a hail of lead aimed their way at Lexington and Concord. Had we ultimately lost that particular struggle, we too might have been limited to carrying only shillelaghs to accompany us in our travels.
more weapons to defend against the sea of imaginary enemies that threaten his evening walks.....if my life was that skeery I'd just get a Wi and do my exercise indoors or something.
I guess that's the difference between you and I, Steve.
thought you had me on ignore, big guy
yes, that is the difference.....I live in a really no-[bleep] dangerous city but I don't choose to be a freaking drama queen about my daily life.
A good stick was likely one of man's first tool/weapon. One still makes an excellent aid in walking and doubles as a formidable weapon. Suitable sticks are readily available, cheap, and thankfully, not illegal to possess or carry. I often carry a walking stick.
TRH, I'd like to see it after you get it finished. Gotta agree on the black finish too.
Thanks, TN. I agree with your observations, and I will keep you posted.
I liked that character in Gangs of New York. As you know, those are notches, each representing a crushed skull. Hated when Daniel Day Lewis' character tossed that hatchet into his back. You'd think doing that to the elected sheriff, right in front of several witnesses, would have landed a fellow in jail even in that corrupt a political environment.
Was never a Stones fan but love that piece of music for some reason.
I think that's what they played during the closing titles of The Devil's Advocate, with Al Pacino.
Never saw that.
Good flick. Especially if you were raised Roman Catholic, but probably also if you were raised any stripe of Christian. Not that it's not filled with theological flaws, of course. It is Hollyweird, after all.
I guess that's the difference between you and me, Steve.
ANY AND ALL differences with TRH ought to be celebrated with vigor!
I guess that would depend heavily on one's political perspective. If you're for the status quo, I guess that might well be the case. Want a return to limited Constitutional government, then probably not.
Just not much of a movie person, True Grit is the first theater movie I have seed since Avatar and before that was Shreck.
get to go to the local theater for free since the wife works there regularly and ive been known to put in a few hours every once in awhile......paid the money to see Avatar in 3D at one of the bigger theaters when the wife and i were out of town and am glad i did, was one of the more impressive things ive seen as far as movies go....saw it again when it hit our theater on film and it was a let down after seeing it out of a digital 3D projector....
I guess that's the difference between you and me, Steve.
ANY AND ALL differences with TRH ought to be celebrated with vigor!
I guess that would depend heavily on one's political perspective. If you're for the status quo, I guess that might well be the case. Want a return to limited Constitutional government, then probably not.
Actually, your generally nut factor goes so far beyond your head-in-the-sand politics I'm very happy to be different than you in any and all aspects of my life. If there was ever an example of where the federal government should regulate what teachers teach you'd be it.
on walking sticks. in arizona we often make them out of the spines of a suharo cactus. Really strong, but light. I keep thinking about buying one of those canes at the sportsmans warehouse that has a big brass ducks head for the handle. Might be could for teaching ruffians a lesson about an old man. If you have a bad leg, i would think it hard for various governmental entities to confiscate it.
Actually, your generally nut factor goes so far beyond your head-in-the-sand politics I'm very happy to be different than you in any and all aspects of my life. If there was ever an example of where the federal government should regulate what teachers teach you'd be it.
Just about how I had you measured up. What in hell does the Federal Government have to do with local education? Should be 100% locally controlled and funded. And who's the one with his head in the sand, the guy who refuses to research how the banks are manipulating government policy through the Federal Reserve (an unconstitutional institution) or the guy who understands same and wants to fix the problem?
That, or cut it in half, connect it with a short length of chain, and you've got half a new set o' numchucks!
What's the obsession you folks have with nunchucks? It's just one among many forms of convenient bludgeons developed by folks looking for a way to defend themselves when prohibited by the state from carrying what the state considered real weapons, which in the old days meant daggers and swords and such. In Ireland, their solution was the shillelagh, where only the British occupiers were permitted to carry edged weapons. In Japan, only Samurai were permitted edged weapons, so the peasants (the vast majority of the population) had to develop techniques for using innocuous looking everyday items as effective tools of self-defense. In the case of the nunchuck (nunchaku), it was a common agricultural tool. The Samurai couldn't complain, after all, if peasants were caught with common ag tools in their possession, so they left them alone. It's been a common theme in many parts of the world throughout the history of human society. Hell, the Brits were in the precess of disarming us when we responded with a hail of lead aimed their way at Lexington and Concord. Had we ultimately lost that particular struggle, we too might have been limited to carrying only shillelaghs to accompany us in our travels.
Just yankin' yer chain, dude.
When I still lived in the city and walked my dogs in off-leash areas, I would carry a walking stick. I had a nice stout oak walking stick with a brass handle that I would carry on such outings. I had to use it twice on other dogs that attacked my dog. It's amazing how quickly an aggressive dog will change his mind and ki-yi back to his master when whacked across the snout with it.
Wife took me to see the original "Pirates of the Caribbean" but the next two we bought when they came out on DVD, same Open Range, 3:10 to Yuma and Appaloosa.
When I still lived in the city and walked my dogs in off-leash areas, I would carry a walking stick. I had a nice stout oak walking stick with a brass handle that I would carry on such outings. I had to use it twice on other dogs that attacked my dog. It's amazing how quickly an aggressive dog will change his mind and ki-yi back to his master when whacked across the snout with it.
And you can tell some dogs have already felt the sting of a walking stick. Just raise it up, and they know to keep their distance.
When I still lived in the city and walked my dogs in off-leash areas, I would carry a walking stick. I had a nice stout oak walking stick with a brass handle that I would carry on such outings. I had to use it twice on other dogs that attacked my dog. It's amazing how quickly an aggressive dog will change his mind and ki-yi back to his master when whacked across the snout with it.
And you can tell some dogs have already felt the sting of a walking stick. Just raise it up, and they know to keep their distance.
Yep. And the owners of said dogs learn not to bother walking their dogs in the off-leash area when they see your car in the parking lot!
I guess that's the difference between you and me, Steve.
ANY AND ALL differences with TRH ought to be celebrated with vigor!
Just don't bring up fluorides!
BTW, Happy B-day Allen.
Isn't it odd, though, that no one is allowed to take a view in opposition to the government's party line on this topic? We've all been trained to respond with hoots and hollers if anyone should take the other side. But if you actually consider the issue, it's not really the least bit funny. I could perfectly see taking the establishment side of it, and defending it with whatever facts one can muster, but the humor element is really nothing short of Pavlovian conditioning.
What in hell does the Federal Government have to do with local education? Should be 100% locally controlled and funded. And who's the one with his head in the sand, the guy who refuses to research how the banks are manipulating government policy through the Federal Reserve (an unconstitutional institution) or the guy who understands same and wants to fix the problem?
Always good to watch you come unglued. Thanks for the birthday present
The function of the Federal government in education should be to establish standards at various milestones to ensure that students actually learn stuff that makes them relevant in todays environment. I don't think that local school boards should have a role in core subject standards as they have proven time and time again to approve or disapprove teaching evolution and creationism or a myriad of other topics that represents some local interest or position. Sure, a lot do a fine at creating and teaching relevant content but far too many don't and won't and that is a diservice to the kids that are being prepped to go out in life.
You want your kids to learn weird crap? Homeschool them. That's not to say homeschooling itself bad, some of the best and brightest and kids I've met have been home schooled for some very good reasons.
We see how well that has worked. At one time the Federal gov't was not in charge of education. Went down hill since though. I call it training rather than educate.
The function of the Federal government in education should be to establish standards at various milestones to ensure that students actually learn stuff that makes them relevant in today's environment...
That was all I needed to read, Pugs, to have you perfectly pegged. No wonder you find me contemptible, and my views dangerous. It all makes perfect sense now. My views are dangerous to the likes of you.
We see how well that has worked. At one time the Federal gov't was not in charge of education. Went down hill since though. I call it training rather than educate.
Didn't say they're doing a good job, I just said that I think that given the opportunity the trackrecord shows lots of local orgs would do a very poor job. I think the DOE is way too big and does way too much but to say that the Feds don't have a stake in the eduction of the country shows TRH's ignorance of how governments actually function and where they can do good.
We see how well that has worked. At one time the Federal gov't was not in charge of education. Went down hill since though. I call it training rather than educate.
Didn't say they're doing a good job, I just said that I think that given the opportunity the trackrecord shows lots of local orgs would do a very poor job. I think the DOE is way too big and does way too much but to say that the Feds don't have a stake in the eduction of the country shows TRH's ignorance of how governments actually function and where they can do good.
You have the unmitigated audacity to make a statement like that and call me ignorant??
Didn't say they're doing a good job, I just said that I think that given the opportunity the trackrecord shows lots of local orgs would do a very poor job. I think the DOE is way too big and does way too much but to say that the Feds don't have a stake in the eduction of the country shows TRH's ignorance of how governments actually function and where they can do good.
You have the unmitigated audacity to make a statement like that and call me ignorant??
I would strip off the rest of the bark, sand it fairly smooth, and rub it down every few days with cooking oil. That will ensure it's strength and keep it from cracking.
absolutely certifiable.....and not even aware his posts long ago descended into self parody. this one particularly.....you couldn't make this thread up.
drama queen finds stick in trash, writes post about it, obsesses over how to adapt it, so that his daily brushes with death will be less scary, now that he has a stick with which to fend off attacking dogs and crazed negroes. don't think it will help with the almost lightning strikes, though.
It was my hope, young padawan, that a remnant of the light side still dwelt within you, but it appears you've fully given yourself over to the dark side of the force.
I had no idea the man had so much support here at the Fire. I mean, this forum is neocon-dominated, and neocons do share leftism with Obama and friends, but I always thought you were a different and competing branch of leftism, thus would appreciate depictions of the man in a negative light. You'll have to excuse conservatives like myself for not sharing your concerns about depicting Obama in a negative (yet accurate) light.
I have always wasnted one of those shilelagh's, and i like canes. Have used them for years in hiking etc. Like i said have made them out of many things mostly cactus. Once among a time in a galaxy a long time ago, i went through some intensive training with a baton, and am aware of how much they can do. A cane is an extension of that. Also a little story i have posted before. Years ago a WWI vet was accosted by some young toughs on the way home from the bars. He was crippled up and a little old guy. He beat the living snot out of them with his cane. Sometimes you can't use a gun or don't have access to one. Those sticks have been used for years. I had a guy come into the office a few months ago with a cane documented from the 1800's. Inside it was a revolutionary war long bayonet. That made me drool. They have been used for a long time.
You know damn well it has nothing to do with the fact it is a monstosity of a picture of Obama . Like another poster said ;" It would be offensive if it were Mickey Mouse " .
It is obvious you have never had to share common space with grown men , such as a barracks .Everyone on this forum has as much right as you have to put up a big, garish picture of some sort following every post they make .
The vast majority of posters have spent their lives around grown men , not school kids , so they know what is acceptable behaviour in the "common area" . You obviously just don't get it .
But you are exceedingly dishonest because [even] you are discerning enough to know that disliking your exhibitionism does not equate to liking Obama .But you still chant that same childish litany .
For all I know , you may have dyed your hair green with an orange stripe and wear four ear rings in each ear but that doesn't bother me 'cause I don't have to look at it .[ That's not entirely true ; That is the image of you my mind conjures up when I see one of your posts ]
Keeping the stupid picture up is your way of sticking your tongue out at all the people who have complained about it .Since you won't address the problem ; I will .
The function of the Federal government in education should be to establish standards at various milestones to ensure that students actually learn stuff that makes them relevant in today's environment...
That was all I needed to read, Pugs, to have you perfectly pegged. No wonder you find me contemptible, and my views dangerous. It all makes perfect sense now. My views are dangerous to the likes of you.
I just wonder how many DVDs you show those kids while you're sanding your stick and dicking around on the internet all day on the taxpayers' nickel.
We see how well that has worked. At one time the Federal gov't was not in charge of education. Went down hill since though. I call it training rather than educate.
Didn't say they're doing a good job, I just said that I think that given the opportunity the trackrecord shows lots of local orgs would do a very poor job. I think the DOE is way too big and does way too much but to say that the Feds don't have a stake in the eduction of the country shows TRH's ignorance of how governments actually function and where they can do good.
Why in hell would anybody want their kid's education mandated by a bunch of dickweasels who can't balance a budget or manage a country that was handed to them on a silver platter and practically paved with gold? Basic subjects can be taught with no mention of either evolution or creationism, thus satisfying the demands of separation but not the demands of radical Darwinists, communists, socialists and their ilk. The more the Federal government has intervened in education the worse it has gotten. Federal control of curriculum is the polar opposite of the conservative Republican goal of LOCAL CONTROL. Are you a registered Democrat?
We see how well that has worked. At one time the Federal gov't was not in charge of education. Went down hill since though. I call it training rather than educate.
Didn't say they're doing a good job, I just said that I think that given the opportunity the trackrecord shows lots of local orgs would do a very poor job. I think the DOE is way too big and does way too much but to say that the Feds don't have a stake in the eduction of the country shows TRH's ignorance of how governments actually function and where they can do good.
Why in hell would anybody want their kid's education mandated by a bunch of dickweasels who can't balance a budget or manage a country that was handed to them on a silver platter and practically paved with gold? Basic subjects can be taught with no mention of either evolution or creationism, thus satisfying the demands of separation but not the demands of radical Darwinists, communists, socialists and their ilk. The more the Federal government has intervened in education the worse it has gotten. Federal control of curriculum is the polar opposite of the conservative Republican goal of LOCAL CONTROL. Are you a registered Democrat?
Pugs is a memeber in good standing of the political class. Rememeber, Pugs is a retired warrior who fought for the State. Pugs collects a pension from the State. It is to be expected he would fully support the State. It's not hard to understand at all.
Weird something degrees of separation. When I'm twisted enough, at about every live show I attend, invariably, at some point I scream at the top of my lungs: PAINT IT BLACK YOU DEVIL! PAINT IT BLACK! Then I giggle when people look at me like I've just sustained a blunt trauma head injury resulting in a subdural hematoma.
You want your kids to learn weird crap? Homeschool them. That's not to say homeschooling itself bad, some of the best and brightest and kids I've met have been home schooled for some very good reasons.
A philosophy professor I had once proudly announced to the class that his two children, then aged 9 and 12, were still actively breastfeeding and that when in the confines of their home, went naked as a family 100% of the time. These were healthy, natural things for families to do, he assured all during his lecture. He cited some aboriginal tribal bush to support his contentions. It was all I could do to not raise my hand, and when called on, casually waltz up to the podium to crack him in the damned grill for abusing his kids.
Yeah, I said abusing. Man, people are farking bananas. Carry on.
You want your kids to learn weird crap? Homeschool them. That's not to say homeschooling itself bad, some of the best and brightest and kids I've met have been home schooled for some very good reasons.
A philosophy professor I had once proudly announced to the class that his two children, then aged 9 and 12, were still actively breastfeeding and that when in the confines of their home, went naked as a family 100% of the time. These were healthy, natural things for families to do, he assured all during his lecture. He cited some aboriginal tribal bush to support his contentions. It was all I could do to not raise my hand, and when called on, casually waltz up to the podium to crack him in the damned grill for abusing his kids.
Yeah, I said abusing. Man, people are farking bananas. Carry on.
Some of the weirdest [bleep] I've ever had the displeasure of knowing were college profs who openly displayed their mental illnesses to colleagues and underlings of all stripes, boldly assuring them that they were sane and the world was not.
As to Homeschooling, some of the most conscientious, caring parents I've ever seen homeschooled right alongside meth heads that couldn't crawl out of bed early enough to make sure their kids got to school. They were "homeschooling". I don't want the communistic, insane, assbuggerers in the government telling me how to raise my kids, OTOH there are a lot of jackasses with no sense who neglect and abuse their children routinely. If there is one thing I can impart it is that the worst thing you can do is penalize the innocent in order to restrain the guilty or potentially so. We need no preaching of either religion or scientific theory in our classroooms, we need honest teaching of core subjects while at the same time modeling of the core values that made this nation great.
I can only hope that my respect for Pugs' military service is evident in the way I post here. If not, it is a failing of mine. At the same time, he doesn't know it all and I am helping him correct a portion of that lack in a small way.
It isn't expected by me that he would fully support the state as it (the state) is dual minded with a good half of it hating the military and all it stands for, with the exception of its use to intimidate and repress people exactly like I imagine Pugs and most on here to be. That portion of the state would love to save money by cutting Pugs' benefits.
A philosophy professor I had once proudly announced to the class that his two children, then aged 9 and 12, were still actively breastfeeding and that when in the confines of their home, went naked as a family 100% of the time. These were healthy, natural things for families to do, he assured all during his lecture. He cited some aboriginal tribal bush to support his contentions.
yeah, them perfessers always think indigenous peoples are way better than, you know....civilized races. might be fun to axe him how many university perfessers them bushmen employ.
We've solved the mystery of the negro in the green pickup. It was the beginning of a turf war. All you need now is a wide brimmed hat with a feather in it (and a Ho or two) and you can change your name to The_Real_Pimp!!
Pugs is a memeber in good standing of the political class. Rememeber, Pugs is a retired warrior who fought for the State. Pugs collects a pension from the State. It is to be expected he would fully support the State. It's not hard to understand at all.
Hilarious as usual DD. I won't see a pension from my Reserve retirement for another 15 years and it will be the same retirement process you get. You after all retired from the Guard as a combat drummer didn't you having seen action in New Hampshire? (Ok, cheap shot, I respect everyone's service regardless of what duty they got assigned)
What I've done in the subsequent dozen years is beyond your capability to understand.
Have you considered changing your handle to KOTY 11 ? Or maybe add it after your screen name like "phd" and such ? Oh, BTW
GET RID OF THE DAMN PICTURE
Hated to do it, because there are some good ones but I went to my preferences and checked "don't show signature lines" That got rid of the head kooks signature that takes up half the page.
Well, probably not technically, but the same general idea.
While on a walk in the neighborhood a few nights ago, I noticed a neighbor had a pile of fresh cut trees/branches out for collection. Still all connected together with the twigs and branches, I saw within it what I thought would be a good shape for a shillelagh, i.e., a traditional Irish style walking stick that can nicely double as a bludgeon, mainly for aggressive dogs, but also potentially for two legged critters where a sidearm might not be an appropriate response.
I used my Gerber lightweight lock blade to cut out the basic shape from the mess and brought it home. Finished cutting off what wasn't a shillelagh, neatly cut it to correct length using a dremel tool with a cutting wheel, used a fixed blade knife (USN Model by Camillus) to whittle off the bark except for the head, which I left natural.
Dude...even though my middle class type neighborhood has degraded into a low middle class type area...(ethnically diverse) I still don't feel the need to carry a club to fend off ANYTHING when I go out for a walk around the neighborhood. You're either living in a world class chit hole or you're in need of some anti psychotic drugs...prayers sent to your neighbors.
Don't let the ankle-biters get you down, Hawkeye. Your shillelagh project is pretty cool and I appreciate the updates you have shared. Looking forward to seeing the pics when it is finished.
Don't let the ankle-biters get you down, Hawkeye. Your shillelagh project is pretty cool and I appreciate the updates you have shared. Looking forward to seeing the pics when it is finished.
Weird something degrees of separation. When I'm twisted enough, at about every live show I attend, invariably, at some point I scream at the top of my lungs: PAINT IT BLACK YOU DEVIL! PAINT IT BLACK! Then I giggle when people look at me like I've just sustained a blunt trauma head injury resulting in a subdural hematoma.
I bet you even get the reference, B.
From "Get Your Ya Ya's Out", IIRC.
Shouted by a girl in the audience just before they broke into "19th Nervous Breakdown". But I could be wrong about that particular song, haven't heard the album in years and when I did I wasn't usually in long term memory retention mode.
ATTENTION is the issue here,.....not whether I'm "mean".
Segue to the near future.......
.....911 call from a distraught Fla. Housewife:
Yes, that's EXACTLY what I just said,.....he's dashing from behind parked car to behind a tree,.... wait,....now he's over behind my garbage can,...peeking out. It's just CREEPY, now will you please get a ....
YES, goddamit !....he's still got that nasty looking club...
You want your kids to learn weird crap? Homeschool them. That's not to say homeschooling itself bad, some of the best and brightest and kids I've met have been home schooled for some very good reasons.
A philosophy professor I had once proudly announced to the class that his two children, then aged 9 and 12, were still actively breastfeeding and that when in the confines of their home, went naked as a family 100% of the time. These were healthy, natural things for families to do, he assured all during his lecture. He cited some aboriginal tribal bush to support his contentions. It was all I could do to not raise my hand, and when called on, casually waltz up to the podium to crack him in the damned grill for abusing his kids.
Yeah, I said abusing. Man, people are farking bananas. Carry on.
Breast feeding as long as possible tends to produce really smart kids and what's wrong with nudity?
I also don't believe you whopped him in the kisser as that's assualt and battery, a felony. Maybe I misread what you posted on that.
I can only hope that my respect for Pugs' military service is evident in the way I post here. If not, it is a failing of mine. At the same time, he doesn't know it all and I am helping him correct a portion of that lack in a small way.
It isn't expected by me that he would fully support the state as it (the state) is dual minded with a good half of it hating the military and all it stands for, with the exception of its use to intimidate and repress people exactly like I imagine Pugs and most on here to be. That portion of the state would love to save money by cutting Pugs' benefits.
I have no disrespect for Pugs military service to the State nor did I mean to disrespect Pugs. Pugs is a warrior, that's his profession.
I do not support the present State nor it's government. I realize that Pugs is a member of the political class that does support the present State and it's government. That's all I meant to imply.
I got a call this AM about an early Dodge Cummins 5.9 driveline, reputed to have but 58K mi. on it.....Engine,4 speed overdrive Auto tranny, and both difs,......WITH driveshafts.
Yup,....that "Outrageous INSTANT Torque" thing can turn an inadequate drivetrain to rubble , and right pronto, too.
Had a bud up in Canada that raced his Highway Tractor on the weekends,...propane over Diesel,......it was nuts,...the thing pulled ginormous wheelies,....and such.
You want your kids to learn weird crap? Homeschool them. That's not to say homeschooling itself bad, some of the best and brightest and kids I've met have been home schooled for some very good reasons.
A philosophy professor I had once proudly announced to the class that his two children, then aged 9 and 12, were still actively breastfeeding and that when in the confines of their home, went naked as a family 100% of the time. These were healthy, natural things for families to do, he assured all during his lecture. He cited some aboriginal tribal bush to support his contentions. It was all I could do to not raise my hand, and when called on, casually waltz up to the podium to crack him in the damned grill for abusing his kids.
Yeah, I said abusing. Man, people are farking bananas. Carry on.
Breast feeding as long as possible tends to produce really smart kids and what's wrong with nudity?
I also don't believe you whopped him in the kisser as that's assualt and battery, a felony. Maybe I misread what you posted on that.
You want your kids to learn weird crap? Homeschool them. That's not to say homeschooling itself bad, some of the best and brightest and kids I've met have been home schooled for some very good reasons.
A philosophy professor I had once proudly announced to the class that his two children, then aged 9 and 12, were still actively breastfeeding and that when in the confines of their home, went naked as a family 100% of the time. These were healthy, natural things for families to do, he assured all during his lecture. He cited some aboriginal tribal bush to support his contentions. It was all I could do to not raise my hand, and when called on, casually waltz up to the podium to crack him in the damned grill for abusing his kids.
Yeah, I said abusing. Man, people are farking bananas. Carry on.
Breast feeding as long as possible tends to produce really smart kids and what's wrong with nudity?
I also don't believe you whopped him in the kisser as that's assualt and battery, a felony. Maybe I misread what you posted on that.
You want your kids to learn weird crap? Homeschool them. That's not to say homeschooling itself bad, some of the best and brightest and kids I've met have been home schooled for some very good reasons.
A philosophy professor I had once proudly announced to the class that his two children, then aged 9 and 12, were still actively breastfeeding and that when in the confines of their home, went naked as a family 100% of the time. These were healthy, natural things for families to do, he assured all during his lecture. He cited some aboriginal tribal bush to support his contentions. It was all I could do to not raise my hand, and when called on, casually waltz up to the podium to crack him in the damned grill for abusing his kids.
Yeah, I said abusing. Man, people are farking bananas. Carry on.
Breast feeding as long as possible tends to produce really smart kids and what's wrong with nudity?
I also don't believe you whopped him in the kisser as that's assualt and battery, a felony. Maybe I misread what you posted on that.
Ftw??????
I came across some stuff that showed that long term breast feeding is good for the mother and kids who had breast feed for a long time had higher IQs.
As to the nudity, kids that grow up with nudest parents tend to be pretty balance with nudity and sex. Not much mystery if everybody is nude. I also find that being nude helps with skin conditions. Personally, I have no problem with nudity for those who want to practice it. I agree it's not for everyone.
Tim, "long-term" in these cases, probably meant up until like a year-and-a-half, or some such, definitely not twelve years old or whatever Ilhonda mentioned. As far as nudity goes, I don't want my kids so worried about somebody seeing them that they won't shower in the locker room or something like that, but they are taught that some body parts are private and not meant for public display. That's a societal norm even if like yourself, you don't believe in the Christian God or at least His tenets. We do.
I personally don't have a problem if Mom and Dad want to romp around in the buff at some nudist camp, as they are adults and free, white and twenty-one. I do think that those nudists that claim, as you are saying, that it is a family affair and it makes their kids better-adjusted, are [bleep] up in the head. I don't give a chit what some Psychologist who studied it says about it or what the stats are.
Another thing about breast feeding. I don't know if you have kids or not or if you do, when they were born. You're a little older than me. We had our kids late, and as such possibly were in a different era of prenatal/post-natal care. There are all sorts of stats out there to support breast feeding in all its facets. The people who are true believers are nothing short of nazis in the way they push people into it. Our first baby was dammed near malnourished in her first days of life due to the way the nurses insisted she be fed. We didn't know any better and had been highly propagandized. I could go on, but to bottom-line it, I think breast feeding is great as long as all the stars line up. If they don't, bottle-feeding is fine and isn't going to make your kid retarded or something.
I am not bragging, but I was bottle-fed and am smart enough. Both our kids were bottle-fed and they are sharp as tacks. They are both very near gifted levels intellectually, if they are not gifted.
Point-being, what you read may or may not be true but most people ain't gonna let the kid pull on the teat until they are a teenager, and rightly so, whether there are less Einstein's out there or not.
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