Some friends and I are helping a 100% disabled Viet Nam Vet get into a low recoil CF rifle to hunt deer with on his home place. Becasue his home state requires a caliber of 24 as a minimum and because of his injuries precluding any recoil we have obtained a Browning Semi Automatic (BAR)in 243. Should be pretty soft shooting. I hope to deliver his new rifle to him when I see him on about the 18th, but the supply of inexpensive used variable scopes over in classified seems to have temporarily dried up and the project has gone a bit over budget already when we saw the Browning BAR 243 and decided that our friend had to have it so we are in the hunt for something in the 3x-9x range of decent quality. Above Tasco/Simmons/BSA and Bubblepack Bushnell but not expecting anyone to give away a Nightforce or sell it to us for $100.00! Can spend SOME money, have some trade bait, particulary if one likes Barnes Bullets to put into a deal.
Let me know what you have, not asking neccesarily for a freebie as there is a bit of money available for a good deal on a low end Nikon or Vortex etc which would be fine for this guy.
PTSD afflicted and injured friend is adverse to any publicity so no names or pictures will be provided, unfortunately. If someone thinks I am snowing or scamming for a scope for myself then don't bother to reply here but I hope most here know that I have plenty of high end scopes and rifles of my own, and plenty enough to not stoop to such a post for my own benefit.
Thaks for looking and thinking of this, All the best as always,
I have a 3-9x40 Bushnell 3200 Elite that has been mounted for about 10 minutes, and due to my ham-handedness, now has some ring marks, but has never been on a rifle that has been fired.
It's stainless colored, so if you can live with the ugliness on what I assume to be a blued gun I can let it go CHEAP for another vet, especially one who has already sacrificed so much for my country.
I have a scope I will give him .I am also a disabled Vietnam Vet and would gladly help another vet out. I know I have a Burris mini ,I think 4x14x40 and may have another scope or two that are good scopes (Weaver and Redfield).I'll have to check tomorrow and let you know.
This veteran friend of mine has been a VERY close freind for about 30 years, and only summer before last was he able to share what he went through and experienced. Horrific stuff. I did not ask, he volunteered it at the reccomendation of his VA docs. I am honored that he considered me one of the people he go to to with his story, which will not be repeated. Wish I could forget it, actually.
Thanks again to all who offered help. He will be thrilled with his 243 and scope, he might try to go deer hunting this fall. I will go with him if he gives it a go.
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
Looks like you have several good scopes - I will pay for Leupold mount/base and rings for the Browning/scope combo you choose (or another brand if you prefer) - PM me your address and the cost. Thanks for what you are doing.
I have a 3x-9x Redfield I'd happily offer up, but it looks like our amazing members have stepped up with better options. I'd still like to contribute. PM sent re: donations and other needs.
Either way, count me in. 'Can't imagine one of our vets being in need and not stepping up to the plate for them.
Do you plan to reload for this .243? If so, I've got a lightly used set of RCBS .243 Winchester dies that I was going to try to sell. If your friend can use them he can have them.
To all who have offered help and goodies including cash. I am weighing how and if too accept any of this because of what I know of this mans pride as well as his privacy. While the offers are WAAAAYYYY cool, if I show up with too much and he knew of this thread it would turn a good thing into bad really quickly. Might be OK to have some Ammo, an extra BAR magazine/clip, maybe the sling but I am trying to bless and honor my friend, not make him feel like a charity case. Working this out in my own peabrain, will get back with all of you. MAny thanks to all of you regardless. MARK
To all who have offered help and goodies including cash. I am weighing how and if too accept any of this because of what I know of this mans pride as well as his privacy. While the offers are WAAAAYYYY cool, if I show up with too much and he knew of this thread it would turn a good thing into bad really quickly. Might be OK to have some Ammo, an extra BAR magazine/clip, maybe the sling but I am trying to bless and honor my friend, not make him feel like a charity case. Working this out in my own peabrain, will get back with all of you. MAny thanks to all of you regardless. MARK
Don't think of a charity, think of it as an honor to a man 40 years to late! God bless him!
He is the one that provided charity to us by putting his life on the line so many years ago. Whatever you decide, you know will be supported here. We just want to thank him for his service, and bring him into the family here at the 'Fire, and the hunting fraternity. Good luck with your decision.
To all who have offered help and goodies including cash. I am weighing how and if too accept any of this because of what I know of this mans pride as well as his privacy. While the offers are WAAAAYYYY cool, if I show up with too much and he knew of this thread it would turn a good thing into bad really quickly. Might be OK to have some Ammo, an extra BAR magazine/clip, maybe the sling but I am trying to bless and honor my friend, not make him feel like a charity case. Working this out in my own peabrain, will get back with all of you. MAny thanks to all of you regardless. MARK
Don't think of a charity, think of it as an honor to a man 40 years to late! God bless him!
Hey, I just saw this thread. What's he doing for binocs? I want to help, as it's the least I can do to thank the man. Please let me know as I'll ante up for the glass.
I have two leupold's. A 4x and a 2X7. Also let me know if I can help in any way
Ummm...i believe you are missing the context. This thread was brought current to serve as another round in the cylinder, in which will be used to bury Safariman due to his being a lying, cheating, old folk scamming, sewer dweller.
I would be more than happy to assist in whichever direction you decide to take this.
Does he like BBQ?
Good thing you're doing for sure.
David
Darn, byc, so nice to finally see you post on the fire again. Heres hoping you and yours are doing well and hoping i can rib you here this fall when the cowboys kick the redskins ass to hell.
Some friends and I are helping a 100% disabled Viet Nam Vet get into a low recoil CF rifle to hunt deer with on his home place. Becasue his home state requires a caliber of 24 as a minimum and because of his injuries precluding any recoil we have obtained a Browning Semi Automatic (BAR)in 243. Should be pretty soft shooting. I hope to deliver his new rifle to him when I see him on about the 18th, but the supply of inexpensive used variable scopes over in classified seems to have temporarily dried up and the project has gone a bit over budget already when we saw the Browning BAR 243 and decided that our friend had to have it so we are in the hunt for something in the 3x-9x range of decent quality. Above Tasco/Simmons/BSA and Bubblepack Bushnell but not expecting anyone to give away a Nightforce or sell it to us for $100.00! Can spend SOME money, have some trade bait, particulary if one likes Barnes Bullets to put into a deal.
Let me know what you have, not asking neccesarily for a freebie as there is a bit of money available for a good deal on a low end Nikon or Vortex etc which would be fine for this guy.
PTSD afflicted and injured friend is adverse to any publicity so no names or pictures will be provided, unfortunately. If someone thinks I am snowing or scamming for a scope for myself then don't bother to reply here but I hope most here know that I have plenty of high end scopes and rifles of my own, and plenty enough to not stoop to such a post for my own benefit.
Thaks for looking and thinking of this, All the best as always,
MARK
Why not just take a scope off one of your rifles and give it to him?
I have a nice S&B Zenith 1.5-6x42 that is just collecting dust I could sell to him for $300 plus shipping. Just send me a check for $325 and I will send it right away.
I guess no matter how you try to be open minded you finally get weary of a money grubbing charlatan.
Interestingly he has donated bullets and such plus postage free of charge for friends projects in the past.
I asked, he didn't want a dime. Or penny.
I can't say I"ve ever had a bad experience wiht him.
FWIW.
No worries, Jeff. .. I know Jim personally [the vet]. He is a great friend. He and Mark go way back. There is no way he would try and take advantage of Jim, or take something that was meant for Jim. Pure BS..
Getting a roof over your head for that is lower than being a cheap whore.
You don't know me Rauncho. I had a roof over my head for 40 years before Mark was in the picture. You are clueless about who I am, and playing the role of a coward by calling me worse than a cheap whore behind your keyboard. Keep up your cheap shots. Get all that hatred out of your system before it kills you.
without dealing with mark, i would say it's pretty rare to have licenses revoked just on the basis of allegations, it generally requires proof. Even with that i have seen all kinds of things go down without any real censure. You should scratch the word allegation, and she is his wife. I really don't think she would or could answer your comments. She seems to be a pretty decent person too by the way.
Getting a roof over your head for that is lower than being a cheap whore.
Thats a pretty cheap and lowlife shot. Asses assume. What are you doing? Sounds like youre calling out a female, and for all you and evidence know, a lady.
This is a new low for the Fire in my opinion. Chitt smells and your post does, poco pendejo loco.
Getting a roof over your head for that is lower than being a cheap whore.
You don't know me Rauncho. I had a roof over my head for 40 years before Mark was in the picture. You are clueless about who I am, and playing the role of a coward by calling me worse than a cheap whore behind your keyboard. Keep up your cheap shots. Get all that hatred out of your system before it kills you.
Getting a roof over your head for that is lower than being a cheap whore.
Thats a pretty cheap and lowlife shot. Asses assume. What are you doing? Sounds like youre calling out a female, and for all you and evidence know, a lady.
This is a new low for the Fire in my opinion. Chitt smells and your post does, poco loco.
Praise the lord, it sounds like you're comfortable with your side.
No worries, Jeff. .. I know Jim personally [the vet]. He is a great friend. He and Mark go way back. There is no way he would try and take advantage of Jim, or take something that was meant for Jim. Pure BS..
So I guess he draws the line for not OK to cheat, lie, con, steal and take advantage at old friends then? Got it.
Hey, lets all kick a woman if we have a difference with her spouse. I cant believe this from someone with your class, Kamo. Why not go and call Mark out?
Getting a roof over your head for that is lower than being a cheap whore.
You don't know me Rauncho. I had a roof over my head for 40 years before Mark was in the picture. You are clueless about who I am, and playing the role of a coward by calling me worse than a cheap whore behind your keyboard. Keep up your cheap shots. Get all that hatred out of your system before it kills you.
I asked you what you were talking about when you claimed to "know" me, and this is your reply?
Your wife and I would get along great because I have great respect for elderly people. My parents taught me that one along time ago.
I hope you got a good shovel and a strong back because you are going to be digging up dirt until hell freezes over in order to find one shred of evidence that I have ever harmed an elderly person. What you will find will absolutely prove my point. Start digging!
...and be sure to ask Sean to help you. Attorneys are great at that.
Pretty sure she had an inking of the reponse to her postings would be negative. Highly doubt she was expecting ticker tape and/or palm branches laid at her feet. Somebody has to try damage control.....
Hey, lets all kick a woman if we have a difference with her spouse. I cant believe this from someone with your class, Kamo. Why not go and call Mark out?
They're in it together in case you haven't figured that out by now.
I think somebody set fire to it and dropped it off a bridge ?
......oh, sorry, wrong thread.
....on this one it was sold as new, in a small shipping pen.
GTC
I believe we may be the same in regards to giving as we see fit, and working our ass' off for those in need, but would kill a thief easier that we'd draw the next breath.
Does it pisd you off AA stands behind her man? Put your better half on to defend your chitt.
having met the woman, she isnt stupid.....and if she isnt stupid she isin on/apart of his scams and as guilty as him.....she defends his actiona and has financially benifited from his scamming people....she claims to love the elderly but has no problem that her husband was scamming them......she is a big girl and deserves what she gets, she made her bed and has to lie in it
Does it pisd you off AA stands behind her man? Put your better half on to defend your chitt.
having met the woman, she isnt stupid.....and if she isnt stupid she isin on/apart of his scams and as guilty as him.....she defends his actiona and has financially benifited from his scamming people....she claims to love the elderly but has no problem that her husband was scamming them......she is a big girl and deserves what she gets, she made her bed and has to lie in it
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by eyeball
Hey, lets all kick a woman if we have a difference with her spouse. I cant believe this from someone with your class, Kamo. Why not go and call Mark out?
They're in it together in case you haven't figured that out by now.
Does it pisd you off AA stands behind her man? Put your better half on to defend your chitt.
having met the woman, she isnt stupid.....and if she isnt stupid she isin on/apart of his scams and as guilty as him.....she defends his actiona and has financially benifited from his scamming people....she claims to love the elderly but has no problem that her husband was scamming them......she is a big girl and deserves what she gets, she made her bed and has to lie in it
Sheridan, You are a nice guy and have some great knowledge on various topics, but you are way off base today.
I'm thinking that Will Rogers' advice on holes would be well applied here; If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!".
Can't see how Safariman can ever escape this mess or how anyone with any integrity can continue to support him given the documentation that has been provided. There has got to be a special place in HELL for people who take advantage of widows, orphans, and the elderly.
Does it pisd you off AA stands behind her man? Put your better half on to defend your chitt.
having met the woman, she isnt stupid.....and if she isnt stupid she isin on/apart of his scams and as guilty as him.....she defends his actiona and has financially benifited from his scamming people....she claims to love the elderly but has no problem that her husband was scamming them......she is a big girl and deserves what she gets, she made her bed and has to lie in it
Sheridan, You are a nice guy and have some great knowledge on various topics, but you are way off base today.
only other answer is your stupid and oblivious to whats going on around you...for fug sake Sean sent him running threatening to produce evidence.....scared the chit out of him....so obviously Sean isnt lying.....he is a crook, and you are either stupid and oblivious and defending a crook or in on it and one yourself....there are no other options....
You attack a woman on the fire and lowrate her becausr you have issues with her husband.
I didn't attack her. I offered that her defending--or attempting to, rather--the indefensible and despicable is ridiculous, and to some makes her complicit. Were she a Godly woman, wouldn't she have made her first priority getting her husband some help or at least considered suggesting to him that the jig was up with him on this forum, and to maybe come clean or at least dispense with the lies and hustles? Any attempts to try to assuage any semblance of wrongdoing just takes away from any last shreds of dignity and honor associated with his name. I'm not a religious man, so your bible references don't compute, friend, but in my book shytbirdedness isn't something peculiar to gender, and frankly, class has little to do with it. Anyone posting here ought to accept that any words offered are subject to a response, with some that they just might not appreciate or like. Nature of the beast.
You attack a woman on the fire and lowrate her becausr you have issues with her husband.
I didn't attack her. I offered that her defending--or attempting to, rather--the indefensible and despicable is ridiculous, and to some makes her complicit. Were she a Godly woman, wouldn't she have made her first priority getting her husband some help or at least considered suggesting to him that the jig was up with him on this forum, and to maybe come clean or at least dispense with the lies and hustles? Any attempts to try to assuage any semblance of wrongdoing just takes away from any last shreds of dignity and honor associated with his name. I'm not a religious man, so your bible references don't compute, friend, but in my book shytbirdedness isn't something peculiar to gender, and frankly, class has little to do with it. Anyone posting here ought to accept that any words offered are subject to a response, with some that they just might not appreciate or like. Nature of the beast.
Don't even bother.
Anybody that can't see her and her husband for what they are, are too blind to be convinced anyway.
Does it pisd you off AA stands behind her man? Put your better half on to defend your chitt.
having met the woman, she isnt stupid.....and if she isnt stupid she isin on/apart of his scams and as guilty as him.....she defends his actiona and has financially benifited from his scamming people....she claims to love the elderly but has no problem that her husband was scamming them......she is a big girl and deserves what she gets, she made her bed and has to lie in it
Sheridan, You are a nice guy and have some great knowledge on various topics, but you are way off base today.
only other answer is your stupid and oblivious to whats going on around you...for fug sake Sean sent him running threatening to produce evidence.....scared the chit out of him....so obviously Sean isnt lying.....he is a crook, and you are either stupid and oblivious and defending a crook or in on it and one yourself....there are no other options....
The series of events are not that simple, but go ahead and run with that.
actually they are.....anything else is an excuse.....for phug sake he has been nailed over and over again for screwing over people here, a court of law nailed him for screwing over people, someone who worked with him says they watched and have evidence of him fugging over people....its called a pattern of behavior....pretty simple really.....anything else is rationalizing so you can sleep at night
The series of events are not that simple, but go ahead and run with that.
There she goes again. 'No one understands the real truth and I ain't sayin' nuttin' more 'bout it but he's just being unfairly treated and it's all just a misunderstanding! Mark's the VICTIM in all this!'
Stop being coy, now. How about a hint at the baffling but true (I swear!) mitigating circumstances that might shed some light on the whole SM mystique? Let me guess: it has sumptin' to do wif aliens, am I right?
No, "Backroads" is another member who asked question..actually 2 different posts. So, I was asking you if that was the question you were referring to so I could respectfully answer. I think you are the one dodging here.
The series of events are not that simple, but go ahead and run with that.
There she goes again. 'No one understands the real truth and I ain't sayin' nuttin' more 'bout it but he's just being unfairly treated and it's all just a misunderstanding! Mark's the VICTIM in all this!'
Stop being coy, now. How about a hint at the baffling but true (I swear!) mitigating circumstances that might shed some light on the whole SM mystique? Let me guess: it has sumptin' to do wif aliens, am I right?
The series of events are not that simple, but go ahead and run with that.
There she goes again. 'No one understands the real truth and I ain't sayin' nuttin' more 'bout it but he's just being unfairly treated and it's all just a misunderstanding! Mark's the VICTIM in all this!'
Stop being coy, now. How about a hint at the baffling but true (I swear!) mitigating circumstances that might shed some light on the whole SM mystique? Let me guess: it has sumptin' to do wif aliens, am I right?
Wrong. I have never said Mark is a victim.
actually you are, either it was his fault he fugged over people or it wasnt, if it wasnt your claiming he is some sort of victim in all this and its not his fault.....this chit isnt that difficult.....explain it if we have it wrong....
You've also never said he is innocent of what he's been accused of, no, proven to have done, and what he is. Enlighten us, won't you? Not a trick question.
The series of events are not that simple, but go ahead and run with that.
There she goes again. 'No one understands the real truth and I ain't sayin' nuttin' more 'bout it but he's just being unfairly treated and it's all just a misunderstanding! Mark's the VICTIM in all this!'
Stop being coy, now. How about a hint at the baffling but true (I swear!) mitigating circumstances that might shed some light on the whole SM mystique? Let me guess: it has sumptin' to do wif aliens, am I right?
Wrong. I have never said Mark is a victim.
actually you are, either it was his fault he fugged over people or it wasnt, if it wasnt your claiming he is some sort of victim in all this and its not his fault.....this chit isnt that difficult.....explain it if we have it wrong....
Again, I have not said Mark is a victim. You live in a very black and white world, Sheridan.
So you know he asked a question? How could you know? You are so confused by what question, any question.....did someone ask me a question?
Yet, you "know" Backroads asked you a question...... Strange. Isn't it?
Apparently, you have difficulty in counting. I can't help you with that.
Thanks. This has been awesome. From tonight's entrees, I would say you and your "partner" go together like peas and carrots. You both present yourself as "holy" as you are screwing Grandma out her last dollar or husband's Model 70. Sleep well tonight.
There she goes again. 'No one understands the real truth and I ain't sayin' nuttin' more 'bout it but he's just being unfairly treated and it's all just a misunderstanding! Mark's the VICTIM in all this!'
Stop being coy, now. How about a hint at the baffling but true (I swear!) mitigating circumstances that might shed some light on the whole SM mystique? Let me guess: it has sumptin' to do wif aliens, am I right?
Wrong. I have never said Mark is a victim.
actually you are, either it was his fault he fugged over people or it wasnt, if it wasnt your claiming he is some sort of victim in all this and its not his fault.....this chit isnt that difficult.....explain it if we have it wrong....
Again, I have not said Mark is a victim. You live in a very black and white world, Sheridan.
actually no this is just a black and white issue, either your husband is a crook or he isnt, you dont just kinda screw someone over, you either do or you dont.....
Like the gangster moms always say, "he was providing for his family", as if criminal activity is somehow justified when it is done to "provide" for the criminal's family. It appears that Safari cheated the elderly to help provided for Asphalt, so Asphalt directly benefited from his reprehensible actions. Lots of wives know exactly what their husbands are doing and just look the other way.
Like the gangster moms always say, "he was providing for his family", as if criminal activity is somehow justified when it is done to "provide" for the criminal's family. It appears that Safari cheated the elderly to help provided for Asphalt, so Asphalt directly benefited from his reprehensible actions. Lots of wives know exactly what their husbands are doing and just look the other way.
It was proven, and the state board revoked his license because of it.
I asked you what you were talking about when you claimed to "know" me, and this is your reply?
Your wife and I would get along great because I have great respect for elderly people. My parents taught me that one along time ago.
I hope you got a good shovel and a strong back because you are going to be digging up dirt until hell freezes over in order to find one shred of evidence that I have ever harmed an elderly person. What you will find will absolutely prove my point. Start digging!
...and be sure to ask Sean to help you. Attorneys are great at that.
Since you wanted to bring me into this schitshow, I'll play for a bit. To my knowledge, I have never said or insinuated that you directly harmed any elderly person.
Now, on to the rest.
Originally Posted by asphaltangel
Originally Posted by rattler
Originally Posted by asphaltangel
Originally Posted by rattler
having met the woman, she isnt stupid.....and if she isnt stupid she isin on/apart of his scams and as guilty as him.....she defends his actiona and has financially benifited from his scamming people....she claims to love the elderly but has no problem that her husband was scamming them......she is a big girl and deserves what she gets, she made her bed and has to lie in it
Sheridan, You are a nice guy and have some great knowledge on various topics, but you are way off base today.
only other answer is your stupid and oblivious to whats going on around you...for fug sake Sean sent him running threatening to produce evidence.....scared the chit out of him....so obviously Sean isnt lying.....he is a crook, and you are either stupid and oblivious and defending a crook or in on it and one yourself....there are no other options....
The series of events are not that simple, but go ahead and run with that.
Yeah, it is about that simple. Read what Mark wrote, and why. He did and has done exactly what I said, because I saw it and have what I said I have. I'm not lying, and if Mark can admit the truth, he knows that. As I said in my last post on the 7 Mashburn thread in the Classifieds, though, he is sick and in need of some real and serious psychiatric assistance. Not the "pray with me" kind, the real kind.
As for the questions you keep dodging, and not well BTW, here they are:
Originally Posted by Backroads
Asphaltangel, what is your take on all the controversy surrounding your husband?
Is he guilty of the insurance scam allegations that his licence was revoked over?
Did he actually receive a kidney transplant, then stay in a camper while rehabbing?
His character is in question.
Backroads is right: his character is in question. I will assert that yes, he did get a kidney transplant and stay in a trailer while rehabbing. I will also assert that, yes, he was guilty of the transgressions that Oregon busted him for and revoked his license over; those and many more just like them. You're free to answer the questions as asked to you, though, and they were put to you in the first place.
Originally Posted by Backroads
Have we got it all wrong then?
Well, have we?
You've never said Mark was a "victim", but you sure as Hell have implied it time and again. It really is pretty simple; right is right, and wrong is wrong.
No, "Backroads" is another member who asked question..actually 2 different posts. So, I was asking you if that was the question you were referring to so I could respectfully answer. I think you are the one dodging here.
Speaking of dodging, did you ever answer backroads?
continuing to defend any relationship on this forum shows one of two things.
1)an addiction to the site.
2)a need to maintain a reputation on the site, which begs the reason why.
No need to proffer the any explanation involving "keeping up with friends". That's what email is for.
Nor to include anything involving God, because He seems quite adequate at taking care of business in His own way.
Right now, it would appear God has provided 1000's of viewers, believers and non-believers alike, an example of behavior to avoid.
Again, I have not said Mark is a victim. You live in a very black and white world, Sheridan. [/quote]
actually no this is just a black and white issue, either your husband is a crook or he isnt, you dont just kinda screw someone over, you either do or you dont..... [/quote]
Kind of like being a "little bit" pregnant. Wow, what a train wreck.
then why in the hell would some idiot resurrect the thread in the first place? It's like a freaking movie being re done after 20 years. The chit sucked the first time around. Geez
then why in the hell would some idiot resurrect the thread in the first place? It's like a freaking movie being re done after 20 years. The chit sucked the first time around. Geez
To continue to come to a place and pin the target on one's self and walk down range is even more baffling.
You would think that sooner or later, it would sink in that trying to fit in at a place that doesn't want you, isn't working, and you would go find somewhere else to play...
then why in the hell would some idiot resurrect the thread in the first place? It's like a freaking movie being re done after 20 years. The chit sucked the first time around. Geez
Negative folks thrive on this sort of drama. IIRC the new posts already exceed the old ones. It sat dormant for roughly 50 months until S Head brought it back up.
I actually deal with this stuff all time as the head of a ball association. I don't understand a lot of "charity" and "fund raising" stuff. By the time you get done donating not just your time, but gas and other stuff to get the fund raising done, you truly would be ahead to just give money or goods, whatever. I spend a lot of my own money on stuff simply because it's easier. Not to mention the fact that it eliminates having to beg people to get stuff done. Not being obligated to somebody for them having helped somebody or some thing at my behest is actually worth something to me. I think about this stuff a lot and still never come up with a viable answer.
At any rate, in this case, wouldn't a $40 scope be cheaper, in the end, than all the back-and-forth on the internet, emails, endless PM's and especially all the bad publicity for SM? It's astonishing actually.
I actually deal with this stuff all time as the head of a ball association. I don't understand a lot of "charity" and "fund raising" stuff. By the time you get done donating not just your time, but gas and other stuff to get the fund raising done, you truly would be ahead to just give money or goods, whatever. I spend a lot of my own money on stuff simply because it's easier. Not to mention the fact that it eliminates having to beg people to get stuff done. Not being obligated to somebody for them having helped somebody or some thing at my behest is actually worth something to me. I think about this stuff a lot and still never come up with a viable answer.
At any rate, in this case, wouldn't a $40 scope be cheaper, in the end, than all the back-and-forth on the internet, emails, endless PM's and especially all the bad publicity for SM? It's astonishing actually.
The above post is referencing those who fund raise on the up-and-up. Then time after time you have the big talkers who always want to "bear the bag" and who steal from charities and non-profit. You have people who, despite plenty of overwhelming evidence of theft, turn over the reins of various charitable organizations to those who steal. Then stuff gets stolen and everybody stands around asking each other why? Some folks are just thieves and when you turn your goods over to them and they steal, is it really any wonder? This is not directed to or about the OP. It is just a general statement.
Btw SM, sorry, but I have no interest in making a contribution at this time.
then why in the hell would some idiot resurrect the thread in the first place? It's like a freaking movie being re done after 20 years. The chit sucked the first time around. Geez
Agreed. I wish people would stop bumping it to the top.
then why in the hell would some idiot resurrect the thread in the first place? It's like a freaking movie being re done after 20 years. The chit sucked the first time around. Geez
"ding ding ding"
Yep.
Better things to talk about. Wish this would just sink to the bottom.
I just want to thank everyone here. As a noob I almost bought a rifle from SM. Did a could of searches and passed. Makes me happy to have NOT been shafted.
He is not a good person. Anyone "defending" him should take a good look at themselves.
no upsetment here. Just some laughing at folks that say 'let it go', and continue to bump it. Hint................... Just gotta stir the fugging pot, eh?
Safariman Mark Claiborne's character is not in question at all. In fact, his character is a well-defined quantity, well known to many, and needs to be known to anyone that frequents the Free Classifieds Forum.
no upsetment here. Just some laughing at folks that say 'let it go', and continue to bump it. Hint................... Just gotta stir the fugging pot, eh?
no upsetment here. Just some laughing at folks that say 'let it go', and continue to bump it. Hint................... Just gotta stir the fugging pot, eh?
Safariman Mark Claiborne's character is not in question at all. In fact, his character is a well-defined quantity, well known to many, and needs to be known to anyone that frequents the Free Classifieds Forum.
The evidence has demonstrated that Mr. Claiborne committed multiple violations of insurance laws in connection with the sale of annuities.
Most significantly, despite his knowledge of the requirement that he attempt to ascertain whether the sale of an annuity was not unsuitable, Mr. Claiborne, on at least three occasions, recommended the sale of annuities to elderly individuals without a meaningful assessment of their economic circumstances.
With regard to Ms. Holmes, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity Page 28 of 30 Amended Proposed Order, Claiborne, Case No. INS 10-02-005 that resulted in an immediate loss of more than $2,000 and the potential for future lost interest payments.
With regard to the Woods, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity despite having almost no information regarding the Woods‟s savings and investments. When Bankers Life questioned the suitability of the investment, Mr. Claiborne altered a form which Mr. Wood had previously signed as being accurate. When confronted about changes to the document, Mr. Claiborne gave conflicting and increasingly self-serving answers.
With regard to the Holloway transaction, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity that he knew would be funded primarily through the surrender of a variable annuity and actively assisted Mr. Holloway in discussions with Prudential to secure the necessary forms needed to complete the transaction. Mr. Claiborne made this recommendation despite the fact he had never read the policy nor understood its unique and advantageous features for Mr. Holloway.
Despite his knowledge, Mr. Claiborne falsely indicated on Mr. Holloway‟s application that he was not replacing an existing annuity, and did not plan on doing so. Mr. Claiborne offered no reasonable explanation for his conduct, but falsely asserted that he was not aware of Mr. Holloway‟s decision to surrender the Prudential annuity.
The evidence also established that Mr. Claiborne made false statements, as well as an untimely response to the Division, including statements under oath, in an attempt to shield himself from liability for his conduct.
His statements to investigators were often self-serving, contradictory, and contrary to all other available evidence. Given those false statements, the Division can have no assurance that Mr. Claiborne will fully cooperate with any future investigations that might arise.
Mr. Claiborne has thus demonstrated a willingness to deceive other insurance companies, the Division, and most importantly, the consumers, to serve his own interests.
Because the Division cannot rely on Mr. Claiborne to tell the truth, its ability to effectively regulate his conduct to protect consumers in the future will be severely restricted.
Given the evidence in this matter, the ALJ concluded that the appropriate sanction is revocation. ORS 744.074(1) allows the Division to revoke Mr. Claiborne‟s license.
The Division takes seriously its responsibility to protect the public from unscrupulous licensees. Mr. Claiborne‟s license has already been suspended once for similar misconduct. (Ex. A1.)
Given his prior discipline and level of misconduct at issue here, the Division finds that the only appropriate sanction is the revocation2 of Mr. Claiborne‟s license.
The evidence has demonstrated that Mr. Claiborne committed multiple violations of insurance laws in connection with the sale of annuities.
Most significantly, despite his knowledge of the requirement that he attempt to ascertain whether the sale of an annuity was not unsuitable, Mr. Claiborne, on at least three occasions, recommended the sale of annuities to elderly individuals without a meaningful assessment of their economic circumstances.
With regard to Ms. Holmes, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity Page 28 of 30 Amended Proposed Order, Claiborne, Case No. INS 10-02-005 that resulted in an immediate loss of more than $2,000 and the potential for future lost interest payments.
With regard to the Woods, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity despite having almost no information regarding the Woods‟s savings and investments. When Bankers Life questioned the suitability of the investment, Mr. Claiborne altered a form which Mr. Wood had previously signed as being accurate. When confronted about changes to the document, Mr. Claiborne gave conflicting and increasingly self-serving answers.
With regard to the Holloway transaction, Mr. Claiborne recommended the sale of an annuity that he knew would be funded primarily through the surrender of a variable annuity and actively assisted Mr. Holloway in discussions with Prudential to secure the necessary forms needed to complete the transaction. Mr. Claiborne made this recommendation despite the fact he had never read the policy nor understood its unique and advantageous features for Mr. Holloway.
Despite his knowledge, Mr. Claiborne falsely indicated on Mr. Holloway‟s application that he was not replacing an existing annuity, and did not plan on doing so. Mr. Claiborne offered no reasonable explanation for his conduct, but falsely asserted that he was not aware of Mr. Holloway‟s decision to surrender the Prudential annuity.
The evidence also established that Mr. Claiborne made false statements, as well as an untimely response to the Division, including statements under oath, in an attempt to shield himself from liability for his conduct.
His statements to investigators were often self-serving, contradictory, and contrary to all other available evidence. Given those false statements, the Division can have no assurance that Mr. Claiborne will fully cooperate with any future investigations that might arise.
Mr. Claiborne has thus demonstrated a willingness to deceive other insurance companies, the Division, and most importantly, the consumers, to serve his own interests.
Because the Division cannot rely on Mr. Claiborne to tell the truth, its ability to effectively regulate his conduct to protect consumers in the future will be severely restricted.
Given the evidence in this matter, the ALJ concluded that the appropriate sanction is revocation. ORS 744.074(1) allows the Division to revoke Mr. Claiborne‟s license.
The Division takes seriously its responsibility to protect the public from unscrupulous licensees. Mr. Claiborne‟s license has already been suspended once for similar misconduct. (Ex. A1.)
Well, asphalt angelica was correct in saying that we didn't know the whole story. Asphalt, I think, is a street term for sodomy IIRC.
I did not con anyone, every person got interest on thier money and it was safe. My error was not continuing to fight oregon DOI over what an 'appropriate' placement of an annuity was at the time I wrote the cases in question. No retirees were harmed and in fact they were materially helped. Your conning lie is getting pretty old, and is way wrong. Plus, this is not the place for that crap.
If you guys think you're going to embarrass and shame Claiborne into leaving 24Hourcampfire, you're sadly mistaken.
Much like Larry Root, he's a sociopath and is incapable of feeling true shame and remorse.
The 'fire is a target rich environment for the likes of Claiborne. He's extremely adapt at manipulation, and cloaks himself in "Christianity" and utilizes his myriad medical conditions in his manipulation of the gullible to obtain what he wants.
While his wife Sherri/asphaltangle is very careful in how she answers and addresses questions (or rather, doesn't answer) is very telling.... she's just as complicit as her spouse.
She's not stupid nor blind. She's very well aware of Mark and his manipulations, and by not speaking up, standing up to him and demanding a change... or walking away, she's just as guilty as Claiborne.
Obviously for those unfortunate gullible souls wearing their emotions on their shirt sleeves, YMMV. I don't care, but do find some perverse humor in watching this sordid affair play out to its inevitable end...
If you guys think you're going to embarrass and shame Claiborne into leaving 24Hourcampfire, you're sadly mistaken.
Much like Larry Root, he's a sociopath and is incapable of feeling true shame and remorse.
The 'fire is a target rich environment for the likes of Claiborne. He's extremely adapt at manipulation, and cloaks himself in "Christianity" and utilizes his myriad medical conditions in his manipulation of the gullible to obtain what he wants.
While his wife Sherri/asphaltangle is very careful in how she answers and addresses questions (or rather, doesn't answer) is very telling.... she's just as complicit as her spouse.
She's not stupid nor blind. She's very well aware of Mark and his manipulations, and by not speaking up, standing up to him and demanding a change... or walking away, she's just as guilty as Claiborne.
Obviously for those unfortunate gullible souls wearing their emotions on their shirt sleeves, YMMV. I don't care, but do find some perverse humor in watching this sordid affair play out to its inevitable end...
Coming to elder and memory care facilities near you.
Glory Road
Members: Mark Claiborne, Owen Frost, Stacey Warne, George White
Primary Music: Southern Gospel Male Quartet Other Music: Love songs and ballads form the 50' and 60's as needed for special occasions. Web Sites: Home Page
High energy Southern Gospel, Male Quartet. Think Oak Ridge Boys on speed...
Instruments: Hoping to add a few, now using only tracks Contact Info: 509-386-2740 352 School Avenue Walla Walla , WA
Coming to elder and memory care facilities near you.
Glory Road
Members: Mark Claiborne, Owen Frost, Stacey Warne, George White
Primary Music: Southern Gospel Male Quartet Other Music: Love songs and ballads form the 50' and 60's as needed for special occasions. Web Sites: Home Page
High energy Southern Gospel, Male Quartet. Think Oak Ridge Boys with their hands out.
Instruments: Hoping to add a few, now using only tracks Contact Info: 509-386-2740 352 School Avenue Walla Walla , WA
and looking back i am pretty sure he did attempt to phug over me at one point but changed his mind that he needed someone "in his corner"
so exactly what was he going to con you out of? A $39 walmart tent? Or the 5 gallon joint-compound bucket you use for a toilet?
And how's all all that working out for you? Have you moved up to sleeping in a Ford tempo yet?
you're pretty fugging clueless.
not sure how i chose to goof off for a couple months on my dime after my divorce has to do with anything....especially given i had no financial responsibility to anyone but myself.....if i wanted to do nothing important for 3 months while living off my savings WTF does it matter....oh and the tent didnt come from Walmart and cost alot more than $39
He's back at it again in the Mashburn thread in the classifieds forum.
Originally Posted by safariman
HI everyone!
I said in my 'see ya'll a bit later' post that I would be checking and replying to PM's here a couple of times a day. Don't know why then that anyone would bet that I would not do so. And I have. We have another member who now needs a kidney transplant and he and I are visiting about that matter. And, I have a couple of trades that are finalizing and I need to stay in touch with the guys I owe stuff to and vice versa.
I have not read this whole thread, not going to. But a little bird told me that someone thought I had run off scared or some such. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not afraid of any of you, here on the 'net nor in person.
Most may not believe this, and that is OK, but I do realize that I have made some real mistakes here and in my life. I truly am using the time that I am not here to do the soul searching that I said I would and asking THE great physician and the only one who can fix what ails me, for help in doing just that.
Sean, buddy, you are forgetting the many times that you saw me pray to begin a day of appointments that God would help me to be of a help and a blessing to all whom I came in contact with at the start of a business day. And the Bankers Life Magazine article where I stated and was quoted as telling others who wanted to be successful like I had been when they wrote about me that " You have to care more about the person across the table from you more than about yourself. If you are not about improving other people's lives and making thier dreams come true, then you are not worthy to have YOUR dreams and plans come true" And I meant that, and conducted myself in that fashion. And, FWIW Bankers is trying to recruit me back now that I will be able to work again soon. That some Oregon DOI employees thought differently is beyond my control right now. If I had not begun getting so sick so fast toward the end of my carreer and been able to financially as well as energy wise continue my fight with them I am certain that before a real judge and opportunity to see the wholle of the interviews that the DOI made (and was allowed to only cherry pick the worst parts in the 'hearing' with no opportunity for my attorney to see the whole or cross examine) we would have won, easily. The hard number rules of how much money, in % form, one could put into an annuity were not put into the DOI code until AFTER I wrote the annuities in question.
And Sean, you are forgetting for some reason how you credited me, after we had parted ways proffesionally, for your time spent in a church praying one afternoon. That, according to you, it was my influence in your life that led to that afternoons time. I hope that you are still allowing God to rule and run your life. Also, you never ONCE suggested that I was doing anything wrong in my business affairs with Bankers or my clients. And for good reson, I WASN'T. Yeah, an Oregon DOI employee found me to have lied to investigators, when they compared notes from over 6 years of questioning me and found discrepncies when i had to go from memory each and every time plus truly was becoming very ill and weak, but there is not any mention of anyone being financially harmed by following my recomendations because they were not. AND, amigo, you are forgetting the many times that you called me to THANK ME for getting you started with Bankers Life - where you DID and WERE selling the exact same annuities that I was- and for mentoring you by the telephone many, many times to help you get a good start in the business. I happily spent HOURS on the phone with you both coaching and encouraging you. And I do not regret one single minute of that even now. Also, when you got your big break to work for Johns-Hopkins (LONG after our business relationship had ended) you called me and thanked me AGAIN for getting you the start you needed which allowed you to have the right skillset and knowledge base that made you a good fit for your fund raising job. You might still be working there, I don't know. I DO know that the last time I called you to see how you were doing, you promised me a phone call that never came. You simply took a chickenshit way and started bad mouthing me from an new assumed name, without once telling me that you thought I had been wrong in any of my business matters, when I THOUGHT you were my friend. Just... wow.
I just remembered another double standard here. Remember when I called you from a gun shop in LaGrande Oregon? I was looking at an older Savage model 99 in 300 Savage which had a tang mounted peep sight for $400.00. YOU told me that I should buy it and then flip it here at 24hrcf. That the sight alone made it worth much more than the $400 price tag. So I did and it was. I have long ago now quit the gun flipping but you were a mentor and co conspiritor with me on that. And in fact the VERY FIRST internet firearms transaction I ever did was with you. The funny stocked pre-64 model 70 in 270WCF for your Rossi lever action in .454 Casull. I wish I still had that one! smile
Sean, You are forgetting a LOT of things about our friendship. And I don't know how you were raised, but in our world and in my family you do not live in a mans house (Our guest room and sometimes our travel trailer right next to the house, but eating and such here), eat at his table, go to his best varmint shooting and fishing spots as an invited guest and close friend and then without telling him become his arch enemy from the anonymiity of a new assumed name, and for YEARS now. At least without having the balls for and class to have a person to person conversation first with that freind who trusted you FIRST. Even if by phone or e-mail. It is just not done, if a man is a man of honor. Some would call that two faced, at a minimum.
But, FWIW, I forgive you completely and without reservation. And, I sincerely thank YOU for it was your signing that long diatribe against me that made me finally really take notice. I should have long before, perhaps, but I am only 55 and have a new lease on life for which I am truly grateful for to both God and my amazing cousin.
And, I really DO intend, plan on, focus toward etc. to make the second half or so of Mark / Safariman's life one that really truly honors God. And one that really counts for something in the eternal scheme of things. And THAT my friends, and only that, is why I am stepping back from here for a little bit. There really could be something wrong deep down that needs some significant work. I am open to the idea of that and will be exploring all the options and avenues of fixing and re building things.
To all who have made fun of my testimony as a Christian and a Gospel singer.... Steelhead especially, This is what pains me the most. I am so sorry that some of my actions have caused harm to come to the name of my Lord and Savior. You all cannot see into my heart of hearts, but I truly did genuinely care for and about not only my clients, and I did help them, but as best I could and can all with whom I come into contact. As for my clients, I would make the same recomendations to them if I was a third party giving advice to them without my name on any paperwork, even though Oregon DOI now has some really arbitrary and poorly thought out % maximums that did not exist when I wrote the annuities in question. More to the point, I really DO love God, and people. The best part of being in and out of Virginia Mason hospital for 6 weeks was the opportunity to spot hurting or worried people and pray with or for them.
As an Aside, THANK YOU MISS LYNN! For checking in on this point and confirming the reality of my hospitalization. and confirming the reality of my lovely bride, asphaltangel. I lover her SOOOO much....
I will post some photos from my surgery here when I come back, and of my Vietnam Vet freind enjoying his Browning semi auto 243 and Loopy scope - big grin on his face - when I do return here. And I shall return.
And I do love singing and giving God glory that HE deserves. And I am an unabashed evangalist (see the links to my ink, perhaps). Some think I am pretty good at it. I have never received a dime for any of this and I like it that way.
I will not be checking in back here to see what happens next in this thread, some of you if not most will continue to have your fun at my expense and I am fine with that. This is, after all, JUST the internet. In real life, and with the people who truly know me I am much liked and loved and THAT is what counts. As for here and for now, I am only going to keep communication going with the folks who I am PM'ing with and as I said before any or all of you are welcome to PM me and I will ad here that you are all invited to e-mail me at:
kritterluverslive.com
I'll be back sometime, but will not grab another assumed cybername. I will still be safariman. All will know who I am, and I am a man not afraid to face some personal demons and get 'em killed off, and will not take the cowards way of using some other name and hoping no one knows who I really am.
As well, I will not be one who percevorates over another persons presence here and stalks them and tries to hi jack their posts or threads. This place is supposed to be fun, and a place to talk about guns and politics and hunting and fishing and such. I remember when it was just that.
Whenever I return in full, I hope that I will be allowed to just be one of the posting members here, without the drama that none of us really needs and is not of a benefit to the campfire experience IMO.
Other than PM's or e-mails, I will see ya'll some time down the road.
Genuine wishes for Gods blessings upon you all,
Safariman
PS not going to do some stupid swan song post in the general campfire, either. Just be MIA for a while.
Coming to elder and memory care facilities near you.
Glory Road
Members: Mark Claiborne, Owen Frost, Stacey Warne, George White
Primary Music: Southern Gospel Male Quartet Other Music: Love songs and ballads form the 50' and 60's as needed for special occasions. Web Sites: Home Page
High energy Southern Gospel, Male Quartet. Think Oak Ridge Boys on speed...
Instruments: Hoping to add a few, now using only tracks Contact Info: 509-386-2740 352 School Avenue Walla Walla , WA
Coming to elder and memory care facilities near you.
Glory Road
Members: Mark Claiborne, Owen Frost, Stacey Warne, George White
Primary Music: Southern Gospel Male Quartet Other Music: Love songs and ballads form the 50' and 60's as needed for special occasions. Web Sites: Home Page
High energy Southern Gospel, Male Quartet. Think Oak Ridge Boys on speed...
Instruments: Hoping to add a few, now using only tracks Contact Info: 509-386-2740 352 School Avenue Walla Walla , WA
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
MARK
Ummm, was I scammed? Haven't been around for a few years and lost my login info but I was DPhillips, but this sounds like I donated a scope and got scammed.
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
MARK
Ummm, was I scammed? Haven't been around for a few years and lost my login info but I was DPhillips, but this sounds like I donated a scope and got scammed.
I can't remember who or when it was but I do recall someone posting about a quality scope that was donated and was supposed to be going to a veteran in need but curiously (not really) somehow wound up in Safariman's personal possession.
If it's any consolation we kick his ass every time he shows back up here, as a matter of fact he's such a slime ball he just might make up a username and log on and make the same claims you just did.
Don't be offended if your legit, we're just careful with the prick.
Kushtaka or Kooshdakhaa ( lit. "land otter man") are mythical shape-shifting creatures found in the folklore of the Tlingit and Tsimshian peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America.
Kushtaka or Kooshdakhaa ( lit. "land otter man") are mythical shape-shifting creatures found in the folklore of the Tlingit and Tsimshian peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America.
Kushtaka or Kooshdakhaa ( lit. "land otter man") are mythical shape-shifting creatures found in the folklore of the Tlingit and Tsimshian peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America.
I need to find me a local critter or legend or shapeshifting creature of folklore within a couple hundred miles of where Safariman lives and make me a sock puppet. Then in 2-3 years pop up out of a manhole cover and start posting
Kushtaka or Kooshdakhaa ( lit. "land otter man") are mythical shape-shifting creatures found in the folklore of the Tlingit and Tsimshian peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America.
Isn’t Claiborne from Oregon?
PNW connection?
Slummy and Ren are Dick &Tracy.
Good job gentlemen on possibly digging out the ferret.
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
MARK
Ummm, was I scammed? Haven't been around for a few years and lost my login info but I was DPhillips, but this sounds like I donated a scope and got scammed.
Kushtaka or Kooshdakhaa ( lit. "land otter man") are mythical shape-shifting creatures found in the folklore of the Tlingit and Tsimshian peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America.
Isn’t Claiborne from Oregon?
PNW connection?
Slummy and Ren are Dick &Tracy.
Good job gentlemen on possibly digging out the ferret.
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
MARK
Ummm, was I scammed? Haven't been around for a few years and lost my login info but I was DPhillips, but this sounds like I donated a scope and got scammed.
You don’t remember if you donated a scope or not?
The original thread long pre-dates me, but reading back, this was my initial thought... you don't know if you donated an expensive scope and/or can't read back and remember?
Kushtaka or Kooshdakhaa ( lit. "land otter man") are mythical shape-shifting creatures found in the folklore of the Tlingit and Tsimshian peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America.
Isn’t Claiborne from Oregon?
PNW connection?
Slummy and Ren are Dick &Tracy.
Good job gentlemen on possibly digging out the ferret.
👍🏻😎
Clairborne is from Walla Walla
D bag women combat equal rights schit ng/reserve officer riffed from ad captain turd guy...
I got into with on his SF women grad thread
After surfing thru this abortion thread.
Holy fugg ...cant beleive the people sending cash to this schit byrd Scopes, mounts , rings , ammo. Wtf guys......
Asphalt angels last post on here was to that turd...
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
MARK
Ummm, was I scammed? Haven't been around for a few years and lost my login info but I was DPhillips, but this sounds like I donated a scope and got scammed.
You don’t remember if you donated a scope or not?
The original thread long pre-dates me, but reading back, this was my initial thought... you don't know if you donated an expensive scope and/or can't read back and remember?
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
MARK
Ummm, was I scammed? Haven't been around for a few years and lost my login info but I was DPhillips, but this sounds like I donated a scope and got scammed.
You don’t remember if you donated a scope or not?
The original thread long pre-dates me, but reading back, this was my initial thought... you don't know if you donated an expensive scope and/or can't read back and remember?
With all the threads started in a day on this site, I think it would be quite hard to just stumble across this thread last posted on in 2015 only to discover you donated an expensive scope.
Kushtaka or Kooshdakhaa ( lit. "land otter man") are mythical shape-shifting creatures found in the folklore of the Tlingit and Tsimshian peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America.
Isn’t Claiborne from Oregon?
PNW connection?
Slummy and Ren are Dick &Tracy.
Good job gentlemen on possibly digging out the ferret.
I need to find me a local critter or legend or shapeshifting creature of folklore within a couple hundred miles of where Safariman lives and make me a sock puppet. Then in 2-3 years pop up out of a manhole cover and start posting
Sorry Slummy, the only creature of legend around those parts are long civilized. Google up Whitman Mission and subsequent massecre by the Cayuse.
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
MARK
Ummm, was I scammed? Haven't been around for a few years and lost my login info but I was DPhillips, but this sounds like I donated a scope and got scammed.
I don’t know if you were scammed but I know that this thread proves that there are a lot of damn fine men on here. The good guys far outnumber the bad guys who eventually get found out for what they are and slither away.
Mr. Phillips, I’d say that you’re a good and generous man, who through a simple act of kindness showed great character when a stranger in need came calling.......scammed?......I don’t think so.
Kushtaka or Kooshdakhaa ( lit. "land otter man") are mythical shape-shifting creatures found in the folklore of the Tlingit and Tsimshian peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America.
Isn’t Claiborne from Oregon?
PNW connection?
Slummy and Ren are Dick &Tracy.
Good job gentlemen on possibly digging out the ferret.
👍🏻😎
Clairborne is from Walla Walla
Bugs Bunny final destination if he didnt miss that left or right turn in Albuquerque????
Sounds like plenty of responses, but I know I can look around tonight and find several options at home. Lot of good offers already. Although it appears it is not a real legit request.
Sounds like plenty of responses, but I know I can look around tonight and find several options at home. Lot of good offers already. Although it appears it is not a real legit request.
The original post was from 2011 lol. Even if it were legit I don't think you need to go looking around tonight.
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
MARK
Ummm, was I scammed? Haven't been around for a few years and lost my login info but I was DPhillips, but this sounds like I donated a scope and got scammed.
I don’t know if you were scammed but I know that this thread proves that there are a lot of damn fine men on here. The good guys far outnumber the bad guys who eventually get found out for what they are and slither away.
Mr. Phillips, I’d say that you’re a good and generous man, who through a simple act of kindness showed great character when a stranger in need came calling.......scammed?......I don’t think so.
Yeah, I'm DPhillips, just been away for awhile. After the re-boot, I couldn't log in and that is that. I did donate the Leupold 4.5-14x scope to the project. It was still in shrink wrap. I'd never unboxed it.
For you Tennessee chuckleheads (really enjoy Slumlord and Rene's posts, but they are still chuckleheads), I spent my youth growing up in Napier, TN. Real Tennessee....
for the curious, Mr. Phillips is offfering a Leopold Vari X lll in 4.5-14! I am amazed and soooo excited, this option is Absolutely perfect, much more than what I was hoping for here.
I am going to have to make SURE this freind of mine shoots a deer with this set up. Anyone want to donate some salt blocks, granola bars and deer chow??
Once again, this place and especially Mr. Phillips goes above and beyond. Sometimes I can do these kinds of things on my own, this year and at this time I coulld not, needed a hand with a deed. Thanks again to everyone.
MARK
Ummm, was I scammed? Haven't been around for a few years and lost my login info but I was DPhillips, but this sounds like I donated a scope and got scammed.
I don’t know if you were scammed but I know that this thread proves that there are a lot of damn fine men on here. The good guys far outnumber the bad guys who eventually get found out for what they are and slither away.
Mr. Phillips, I’d say that you’re a good and generous man, who through a simple act of kindness showed great character when a stranger in need came calling.......scammed?......I don’t think so.
Yeah, I'm DPhillips, just been away for awhile. After the re-boot, I couldn't log in and that is that. I did donate the Leupold 4.5-14x scope to the project. It was still in shrink wrap. I'd never unboxed it.
For you Tennessee chuckleheads (really enjoy Slumlord and Rene's posts, but they are still chuckleheads), I spent my youth growing up in Napier, TN. Real Tennessee....
Literate, complete grammatically correct sentence structure, proper use of punctuation and capitalization.... No way you're from Tennessee.
Isn't Safariman back, with Pancreatic cancer, and fighting in a parking lot with Karens overs his daughters silenced SBR that in just her name, but also in a trust?
I saw this thread and immediately started thinking what scope I could give then I saw it was old Safariman.
He contacted me once about 10 years ago and said he was headed up I15 from Idaho Falls and wanted to know if I could donate a stock and barrel for a build for an orphan or something. I told him to stop by Rexburg and pick out a 700 take off barrel and stock but he ended up not wanting to get off I15 when he realized I was about 20 miles away.
Too bad, at the time I had some 7-08 mtn ss take offs and some gen 1 Ti stocks on hand. I was digging around the basement the other day and found i still have a ti. 7-08 barrel or two in case I ever shoot the one out of my faux ti.
Isn't Safariman back, with Pancreatic cancer, and fighting in a parking lot with Karens overs his daughters silenced SBR that in just her name, but also in a trust?
Someone posted up a big ole court case involving safariman and insurance scam schit with old people he was fleecing.
Looked at it a yr or 2 ago.
You would think after some schitt like that being public record and put up on here for the world to see. You would never come back on the site even under a sockpuppet.
Among all the other scam schitt he has pulled on here let alone other web sites.