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Golly,.....anybody else heard anything about this ?

GTC

Link: http://www.thestatecolumn.com/state_politics/arizona/sarah-palin-leaving-alaska-for-arizona/

Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin may be headed for the state represented by the U.S. Senator who introduced Ms. Palin to the nation: Arizona.

The former governor of Alaska is reportedly considering a move to the state of Arizona, where her daughter Bristol recently bought a home.

The rumor sent the Arizona Democratic Party scrambling.

�Help us send a strong message that Arizona should not be a stepping stone for extremist politicians and their radical agendas,� wrote Luis Heredia, the state party�s executive director.

A move by Ms. Palin would certainly indicate an increased interest in running for president. The former Alaska governor is considering a run for president in 2012, however, it remains unclear whether she will enter the race.

Politico seemed to confirm the rumors last week, noting that an unnamed source indicated that a Palin presidential run could occur out of Scottsdale, Arizona.

The state, which hosted U.S. Senator John McCain�s presidential campaign, has found itself at the center of a number of debates concerning issues ranging from immigration to border security.

Speculation includes a move by Ms. Palin to replace outgoing U.S. Senator Jon Kyl. The Arizona Republican announced his intention to retire earlier this year. Arizona Rep. Jeff Flake in February said he intends to run for the seat.
Man, haven't you heard? She ain't got a chance! A bunch on here will confirm. Makes me wonder why so many wadded panties. grin miles
You must have that star power,Greg!

Try and keep it in your chaps,cowboy!!
First I've heard of it. I find it a little hard to believe that they would make a move to Arizona with everything they have invested in this state.
Get a raincoat - liberal heads are about to assplode.
I heard it being floated around last week. Don't see that it's worth getting worked up about either way yet, probably just rumors.
Its been the big rumor floating around the town of Maricopa for about a month now.
We used to live out there, and my sister still does. We still have a bunch of friends out there too.
I think it is funny as heck, and it would not be a first in the political world, look at GW & Jeb Bush.
Originally Posted by milespatton
Man, haven't you heard? She ain't got a chance! A bunch on here will confirm. Makes me wonder why so many wadded panties. grin miles


she would have my vote and all my friend said she has theirs. You might be surprised how well she would do. The Dem's want everyone to believe she has no chance, because this woman scares the chit out of the Democrat Party.
Originally Posted by T LEE
I think it is funny as heck, and it would not be a first in the political world, look at GW & Jeb Bush.


And don't forget Hillary Clintoon. We all heard about her and Bill having to go house shopping in NY.
Jay Rockefeller also come to mind as well as Rand Paul.
Originally Posted by bea175
Originally Posted by milespatton
Man, haven't you heard? She ain't got a chance! A bunch on here will confirm. Makes me wonder why so many wadded panties. grin miles


she would have my vote and all my friend said she has theirs. You might be surprised how well she would do. The Dem's <And many in the broken part of the GOP> want everyone to believe she has no chance, because this woman scares the chit out of the Democrat Party <And many in the broken part of the GOP> .


RINOs are just as, or more, scared and horrified at the possibility of Palin rising to any elected office. It just upsets them to no end that their experiment at being "Demlite" has been such an utter, absurd failure & has caused a large segment of the party to condemn and evict so many of their moderate ilk. Let 'em twist..
It is amazing and a lot of fun to watch how easy Sarah Palin can yank the chains of the anti-Palin pack. Both Dems and Repubs.

She doesn�t even have to be there; let Bristol do it.

How many times and in how many ways does Sarah have to say how much she and Todd (part Yup�ik and part Curyung) love Alaska.

The Palins pick up a house in Maricopa for $172,000 cash that sold new in 2006 for more than $300,000. So now they�re all moving south for good?

Like Arizona has never had Alaskan snowbirds before?
The Palins certainly can now afford to enjoy the Arizona winters��except when it is Iron Dog time.

And Arizona will make a great command center for her 2012 race.

This story broke back during Xmas week and in the first few stories I checked out, I came up with these gems:


�Bristol Palin plans move to Arizona, but can she see Mexico from her house?"

�Bristol is apparently set to attend Arizona State University -- one of the great college party schools. Let's hope there isn't another little Palin on the way sooner rather than later. Mama grizzly would not be impressed.
Or maybe she just wants to get out of a state where her charm has worn threadbare: The first clear indication that Alaska had turned on Palin was Lisa Murkowski's Senate win over Palin's pick, Joe Miller.�

And this is the �Ding, Ding, we have a Winner!�

�Maricopa County? Well I guess the Palins will feel right at home in an area that elected the racist and civil rights hating Sheriff Arapao.

(Oops it has been pointed out that this house of Bristol's is NOT in Maricopa County. My bad. So perhaps this move has less to do with the man who gave Bristol's Mama pink underwear, and more to do with Teabagger Paul Goser, Governor "headless corpse spotter" Brewer, and John "Get the f**k off my lawn" McCain.)

And now Bristol can hide her burgeoning baby bump from the press and certain inquisitive Alaskan bloggers.�

I'm not exactly a fan yet, but I'm liking Palin more and more, especially when guys like Mitt, Huck and Newt are considered front-runners.

If Palin would do a hawt Penthouse spread, she could probably win this thing.
"�Maricopa County? Well I guess the Palins will feel right at home in an area that elected the racist and civil rights hating Sheriff Arapao. "

Go [bleep] your HAT, Libtard.

oh goodie. we haven't had a 20 page Palin debate in at LEAST a week. crazy
Maricopa isn't in Maricopa county... it's in Pinal county and starting pretty much where the Vekol Valley ends at Stanfield... quite a hotspot on this globe.

Kent
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If Palin would do a hawt Penthouse spread, she could probably win this thing.



Next you'll be telling us you'd eat chunks of corn out of her feces. Sick beotch
This is awesome news, let us pray that it is true....
Maybe now, Alaskans can finally rid itself of the plague that is Sarah Palin...
Alaskans, rejoice!!! DSMFers, hahahahahahahahaha, the kook is yours now!!!!!
[quote=crossfireoops]Golly,.....anybody else heard anything about this ?

Please!!! It would be a good move for all. Palin is not respected in this state so a move might move her up in the 2012 maybe race just behind good old Newt!


Do you know is the Palin family needs help loading boxes?

GrizzKid, go back to lookin' for your parents. This is adult stuff.
Sheriff Arpaio for Palin's Attorney General. What a team they would make. Its remarkable how so many on the left attack a politician's daughter. I can't remember any politicians child being so viciously attacked. Perhaps that says something about those on the left. I'm betting you or any of the other liberals making comments about Bristol wouldn't stand up to Todd & say this about his daughter. Why not attack her son as well. I guess he's stupid to choose to defend his country by serving in the military. Then there is Trig who the Women's libbers say should have been aborted. After all she really is Bristol's baby. Finish it off by attacking Piper surely she must have done something to offend the liberals. Some say she was very photogenic at several political events she attended with Sarah. Imagine pandering to the right at such an early age. What a disgrace the whole family is to dare support our Constitution & country.
Perhaps she got tired of long, cold, dark winters?
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
[quote=crossfireoops]Golly,.....anybody else heard anything about this ?

Please!!! It would be a good move for all. Palin is not respected in this state so a move might move her up in the 2012 maybe race just behind good old Newt!


Do you know is the Palin family needs help loading boxes?



"Respected" ?

....something you know damned little about here, Mister.

You're a phuggin' laughingstock, last I saw.
Guess you're some sorta' "Eat The Cheese" specialist too,....
Enjoy it WHILE it lasts.

GTC

Her putative move to Arizona is a good move. It will reduce her commute to various appearances and make her more available to the media.

Downside, which she perhaps missed, is she won't have the three second delay to think. Her handlers will have to tune her up a bit.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Get a raincoat - liberal heads are about to assplode.

Toldja so.
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Her putative move to Arizona is a good move. It will reduce her commute to various appearances and make her more available to the media.

Downside, which she perhaps missed, is she won't have the three second delay to think. Her handlers will have to tune her up a bit.




Do you really not understand how the 4 second delay works or is this just another cheap shot at Sarah Palin?


Originally Posted by djs
Perhaps she got tired of long, cold, dark winters?


Perhaps she just got tired of fighting the welfare mentality in AK.
Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by djs
Perhaps she got tired of long, cold, dark winters?


Perhaps she just got tired of fighting the welfare mentality in AK.


You mean tax the heck out of business (oil companies) and spend it on the locals? Rather like welfare, isn't it?
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Her putative move to Arizona is a good move. It will reduce her commute to various appearances and make her more available to the media.

Downside, which she perhaps missed, is she won't have the three second delay to think. Her handlers will have to tune her up a bit.


Do you really not understand how the 4 second delay works or is this just another cheap shot at Sarah Palin?



I think it's quite obvious that basic high school physics is beyond him. Laughing my butt off that he thinks she gets to sit there for 3 seconds while thinking of an answer.. TFF!
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by djs
Perhaps she got tired of long, cold, dark winters?


Perhaps she just got tired of fighting the welfare mentality in AK.


You mean tax the heck out of business (oil companies) and spend it on the locals? Rather like welfare, isn't it?

That's funny.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by djs
Perhaps she got tired of long, cold, dark winters?


Perhaps she just got tired of fighting the welfare mentality in AK.


You mean tax the heck out of business (oil companies) and spend it on the locals? Rather like welfare, isn't it?

That's funny.


No its sad really cause all the libturds think that you should have to let them put their hands in your deep pockets for as much money as they can take and a free feel.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Her putative move to Arizona is a good move. It will reduce her commute to various appearances and make her more available to the media.

Downside, which she perhaps missed, is she won't have the three second delay to think. Her handlers will have to tune her up a bit.


Do you really not understand how the 4 second delay works or is this just another cheap shot at Sarah Palin?



I think it's quite obvious that basic high school physics is beyond him. Laughing my butt off that he thinks she gets to sit there for 3 seconds while thinking of an answer.. TFF!


Tell us how long she does "get to sit there".

I would be interested to know. I heard her complain to O'Rielly that it was difficult to communicate because of the "delay".
With a best case satellite relay there's going to be at least a 1 second delay. Add in addition equipment and possibly bouncing signals between multiple satellites and you can easily hit a 3 second delay, or more.

when somebody asks the person on the other end of the line what the weather is like, and there's 3+ seconds before the person reacts at all and the answer comes back that it's "cold, maybe 20 degrees", you can probably figure that they aren't sitting there thinking deep thoughts on how to answer.
Gives her time to read the teleprompter. Ain't all bad.

If they kept the questions to the weather she wouldn't need the delay.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Gives her time to read the teleprompter. Ain't all bad.


You're still in obama wet dream land!
Originally Posted by ColeYounger
If Palin would do a hawt Penthouse spread, she could probably win this thing.


Don't know about winning, but if she were to do as you said (pose), I'd damn sure buy a copy.
Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Gives her time to read the teleprompter. Ain't all bad.


You're still in obama wet dream land!


Said the person sitting in the "Reserved for Stupid" section.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Her putative move to Arizona is a good move. It will reduce her commute to various appearances and make her more available to the media.

Downside, which she perhaps missed, is she won't have the three second delay to think. Her handlers will have to tune her up a bit.


Do you really not understand how the 4 second delay works or is this just another cheap shot at Sarah Palin?



I think it's quite obvious that basic high school physics is beyond him. Laughing my butt off that he thinks she gets to sit there for 3 seconds while thinking of an answer.. TFF!



Looks like we have more than one Stuck on Stupid�

This is funny stuff!
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Gives her time to read the teleprompter. Ain't all bad.


You're still in obama wet dream land!


Said the person sitting in the "Reserved for Stupid" section.


I didn't know you even had a clue what section you were sitting in who told you?
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Her putative move to Arizona is a good move. It will reduce her commute to various appearances and make her more available to the media.

Downside, which she perhaps missed, is she won't have the three second delay to think. Her handlers will have to tune her up a bit.


Do you really not understand how the 4 second delay works or is this just another cheap shot at Sarah Palin?



I think it's quite obvious that basic high school physics is beyond him. Laughing my butt off that he thinks she gets to sit there for 3 seconds while thinking of an answer.. TFF!



Looks like we have more than one Stuck on Stupid�

This is funny stuff!
If she'd pose, like I suggested, you'd have about half the country that wouldn't give a shixt what she said.
Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Gives her time to read the teleprompter. Ain't all bad.


You're still in obama wet dream land!


Said the person sitting in the "Reserved for Stupid" section.


I didn't know you even had a clue what section you were sitting in who told you?


You're Marshall's son, ain'tcha?
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
[quote=crossfireoops]Golly,.....anybody else heard anything about this ?

Please!!! It would be a good move for all. Palin is not respected in this state so a move might move her up in the 2012 maybe race just behind good old Newt!


Do you know is the Palin family needs help loading boxes?



"Respected" ?

....something you know damned little about here, Mister.

You're a phuggin' laughingstock, last I saw.
Guess you're some sorta' "Eat The Cheese" specialist too,....
Enjoy it WHILE it lasts.

GTC


You are one funny guy! Pop you head out of your Arss long enough to see that Palin is a lot like Mr. Joe Miller......Yesterdays News!

By the way I am taking up a collection to buy packing boxes for Mrs. Palin, I understand Todd will be staying up here. Makes you wonder why? Send donations to www.goodbysarah.org
Welfare bloated mouthpiece,.....you,

or so substantial and credible sources advise.

Blow Me.

GTC
Check out KTVA.com Poll on whether people would vote for Palin for president. 68% NO WAY. On that poll no one was running against her. I don't think she could carry the vote up here.
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Check out KTVA.com Poll on whether people would vote for Palin for president. 68% NO WAY. On that poll no one was running against her. I don't think she could carry the vote up here.



Crossfire:

Are you going to ask Cariboujack for a blow job as well or just 68% of all Alaskans? You are going to be a busy man with your tool in your hand!

It must be tough being deaf, dumb, blind and stupid. Ride that horse all the way off that cliff! There will be plenty of bodies at the bottom when you and Sarah hit, most will have been just elected back in 2010 and from states like Wisconsin and Michigan.
Sarah to Arizona, Martin to Nevada.

I am pretty flexible, I just need my retirement to include some nice golf courses and warm weather.
lyin'azzWalt, all horned up over Palin again.

You gotta know he dreams about her at night, and the frustration is what gets to him...
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Check out KTVA.com Poll on whether people would vote for Palin for president. 68% NO WAY. On that poll no one was running against her. I don't think she could carry the vote up here.




KTVA Huh.
When did they start reporting anything right (pun intended) about Palin or Joe Miller?

10/31/10
Jerry Bever, general manager for CBS Anchorage affiliate KTVA, issued a statement today regarding the inadvertent voice mail left on the phone of a senior staff member of the Joe Miller campaign. He claimed that the discussion his staff members had regarding potential scandals for the Miller campaign was taken out of context:
The complete conversation was about what others might be able to do to cause disruption within the Miller campaign, not what KTVA could do.
The American public is supposed to believe that the staff of KTVA were sitting around imagining potentially scandalous stories that others might foist upon the Miller campaign and not ideas that they, themselves were conjuring.
Instead of just taking Mr. Bever�s word for it (like so many in the media and at Soros-Funded left-wing activist organizations have), lets actually hold the statements made on the recording up to the context Mr. Bever has provided.

MALE REPORTER: Oh yeah� can you repeat Joe Miller�s�uh� list of people, campaign workers, which one�s the molester?
[INAUDIBLE]
FEMALE VOICE: We know that out of all the people that will show up tonight, at least one of them will be a registered sex offender.
[Laughter]
MALE REPORTER: You have to find that one person�
FEMALE REPORTER: And the one thing we can do is �.we won�t know�.we won�t know but if there is any sort of chaos whatsoever we can put out a twitter/facebook alert: saying what the� �Hey Joe Miller punched at rally.�
FEMALE REPORTER: Kinda like Rand Paul�I like that.
Some times you spot on! Nice ass, no brains!
Speaking of Palin in Arizona�the weekend of March 5-6, Governor Jan Brewer went to Alaska and did some snowmachine riding with Governor Palin.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Speaking of Palin in Arizona&#133;the weekend of March 5-6, Governor Jan Brewer went to Alaska and did some snowmachine riding with Governor Palin.


Well, you may be dumber than a box of rocks, having drank that Palin kool aid and all, but at least you know what a snowmachine is...

Hey Walt, don't these silly DSMFers make you realize how lucky we are to live thousands of miles away from the lower 48 cesspool...
Best you stay in Alaska. You come to Wyoming with that nasty mouth, it wouldn't take you long to get some free dental work done, no anesthetic.
Originally Posted by martinbns
Sarah to Arizona, Martin to Nevada.

I am pretty flexible, I just need my retirement to include some nice golf courses and warm weather.


Thought Peter Loughheed set that up as reclamation initiatives for the Tar Sands.

....
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Check out KTVA.com Poll on whether people would vote for Palin for president. 68% NO WAY. On that poll no one was running against her. I don't think she could carry the vote up here.


" 68% "

The same bunch probably wouldn't like Brewer,..or Arpaio, or Babeu, or Dever, ..or

hey,.....

WTF's YOUR point ?

GTC
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Check out KTVA.com Poll on whether people would vote for Palin for president. 68% NO WAY. On that poll no one was running against her. I don't think she could carry the vote up here.


" 68% "

The same bunch probably wouldn't like Brewer,..or Arpaio, or Babeu, or Dever, ..or

hey,.....

WTF's YOUR point ?

GTC


I think what he's trying to say is 68% of AK's have caught the gay. But my guess would be he's wrong again.

"68%" don't know if our azz is punched, bored, or ate out by Magpies ?

GTC

Why does everyone get their socks in a knot about Perky? Damn, to mention her name is to set a ten page string afire.

Forget about the gentlelady she is not going to run except maybe behind a dogsled.

The only one man enough to pony up money on her is The Bowsinger. Anyone else?
She's NOT moving to California ,...is she?

Let us worry about it,....over here in the land of the free.

Hell,...That "Arctic" bit gets old,.....and everything about that family is a good fit here.

GTC

Did I just hear an Az. senator is retiring? Could it be Perky is establishing residence to suck that seat, much as Mrs. Clinton did in NY some years ago?
So,......would you rather have Feinstein, Boxer, Pelos-Bag,
....(I know, let's run Cher) in lieux thereof ?

You're all set, and prosperous, the California "Success Story"....why worry ?

GTC
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
"�Maricopa County? Well I guess the Palins will feel right at home in an area that elected the racist and civil rights hating Sheriff Arapao. "

Go [bleep] your HAT, Libtard.



oops

Don't pay no attention to bowsinger! Hellsfire...he chits his britches when he hears the word PALIN and then has to walk around with it in his cheeks all day and that gives him a real 'chitty' outlook on life! That boys all hat and no cattle!!

I have said all along that Perky should run for state office, senator or representative, wax brightly and then head for the Big One. I wish her well.
Originally Posted by GrizzlyKid
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Speaking of Palin in Arizona&#133;the weekend of March 5-6, Governor Jan Brewer went to Alaska and did some snowmachine riding with Governor Palin.


Well, you may be dumber than a box of rocks, having drank that Palin kool aid and all, but at least you know what a snowmachine is...

Hey Walt, don't these silly DSMFers make you realize how lucky we are to live thousands of miles away from the lower 48 cesspool...


Walt would be that last guy I'd buddy up to!

Plenty of Alaskan's think highly of Palin. They must all be off working, spending time with family, etc to be on the internet.
".........these silly DSMFers make you realize how lucky we are to live thousands of miles away from the lower 48 cesspool..."

He certainly speaks like a real Patriot, and one to rely on in the lurch, though,.....doesn't he ?

No ,....wait,...scratch my last off.

GTC
What we have here is a couple of libturds like Walt and whoever the [bleep] grizzkid is trying to morph their feelings about Sarah and say that is how Alaska feels about her. They have their opinion and take it for what it is worth; but the majority of Alaskans still respect Sarah and her family. KTVA is a liberal organization in a liberal town and most Alaskans don't watch it or care what they say. That would be like doing a poll on redstate.com and asking folks if they would vote for President Teleprompter. Probably about .000001%. smile
Originally Posted by arctic338
the majority of Alaskans still respect Sarah and her family


Interesting you find yourself in position to speak for the majority of Alaskans.

I can only speak for myself, I just hope the Palins don't let the door hit them in the azz on the way out.
Jeff

Didn't know the Palins were in Ozello Keys, Florida.

Dan
"The rumor sent the Arizona Democratic Party scrambling.

'Help us send a strong message that Arizona should not be a stepping stone for extremist politicians and their radical agendas,' wrote Luis Heredia, the state party�s executive director."

Guess all the Democrat wannabe's will be leaving Arizona!
The delay in transmission isn't after hearing the question, it's before.

Surely no one is so dopey as to think people sit 3 seconds thinking before responding. They're waiting for the question to arrive. The delay works both ways, too.

One good thing about the delay in long distance Q and A sessions is people are forced to be more polite. You can't go interrupting a person's response, as so many seem to enjoy doing, because you're 3 seconds behind in hearing and really have no way to predict what you're going to hear. They said it 3 seconds ago. It's a good idea to wait and hear it all. If you start butting in with your stupid mouth you stand a good chance of trying to talk past your foot and end up hanging your own azz out to dry.



Originally Posted by Archerhunter
The delay in transmission isn't after hearing the question, it's before.

Surely no one is so dopey as to think people sit 3 seconds thinking before responding. They're waiting for the question to arrive. The delay works both ways, too.

One good thing about the delay in long distance Q and A sessions is people are forced to be more polite. You can't go interrupting a person's response, as so many seem to enjoy doing, because you're 3 seconds behind in hearing and really have no way to predict what you're going to hear. They said it 3 seconds ago. It's a good idea to wait and hear it all. If you start butting in with your stupid mouth you stand a good chance of trying to talk past your foot and end up hanging your own azz out to dry.



Like here at The Campfire.
Sorry didn't hear ya, Toot.

I was busy interrupting laugh
Men, Ya'll do not understand broadcasting. That delay is so that O'reiley has time to marshal his thoughts. grin miles
That would be Beck, Miles. Allows him to tie his red tennis shoes, too.
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Check out KTVA.com Poll on whether people would vote for Palin for president. 68% NO WAY. On that poll no one was running against her. I don't think she could carry the vote up here.

Quote
The opinions expressed in this poll do not necessarily represent the collective views of our community, this station or its management.


While that's standard language for these type of limited value polls, they can't even tell how many people voted. For all that can be discerned, they posted they results they want to show, don't change it, and don't really register votes. That poll is pure nonsense.
Originally Posted by northwestalaska


You are one funny guy! Pop you head out of your Arss long enough to see that Palin is a lot like Mr. Joe Miller......Yesterdays News!

One does not have to like Sarah, but to claim she is "yesterday's news" makes you at best, deceitfully ignorant.

I might be onto something here.
Originally Posted by Sharpsman
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
"&#147;Maricopa County? Well I guess the Palins will feel right at home in an area that elected the racist and civil rights hating Sheriff Arapao. "

Go [bleep] your HAT, Libtard.



oops

Don't pay no attention to bowsinger! Hellsfire...he chits his britches when he hears the word PALIN and then has to walk around with it in his cheeks all day and that gives him a real 'chitty' outlook on life! That boys all hat and no cattle!!





I used to be a McLean County pig farmer��does that count?
With a baseball cap. grin.

Either a John Deere or a Funk�s Hybrid Seed Corn baseball cap.
Let her run for Governor of Alaska again, and really find out how popular she is up there.
Would probably quit,,,,,again.

Would be a huge pay cut and she is way over qualified to be a governor of such a small state.
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
...and everything about that family is a good fit here.

GTC


Take them ALL, PLEASE!

And, pray to God that she runs for POTUS!

[/quote]

Hey Walt, don't these silly DSMFers make you realize how lucky we are to live thousands of miles away from the lower 48 cesspool... [/quote]


walt is still surrounded by DSMF's, even and especially when he's alone
Originally Posted by oulufinn
Originally Posted by bea175
Originally Posted by milespatton
Man, haven't you heard? She ain't got a chance! A bunch on here will confirm. Makes me wonder why so many wadded panties. grin miles


she would have my vote and all my friend said she has theirs. You might be surprised how well she would do. The Dem's <And many in the broken part of the GOP> want everyone to believe she has no chance, because this woman scares the chit out of the Democrat Party <And many in the broken part of the GOP> .


RINOs are just as, or more, scared and horrified at the possibility of Palin rising to any elected office. It just upsets them to no end that their experiment at being "Demlite" has been such an utter, absurd failure & has caused a large segment of the party to condemn and evict so many of their moderate ilk. Let 'em twist..



Posted by M. JOSEPH SHEPPARD'S "A POINT OF VIEW" on March 16, 2011
There has been media speculation that Palin is looking to base her campaign, should it eventuate, in Arizona.
This has an appeal for her given family considerations with her daughter Bristol and her grandchild having recently moved there but for two reasons it is not the best option.

Firstly there is the memory of Palin�s being unfairly pilloried by the media for her supposed connection with the Gifford�s tragedy and the subsequent further attacks on her for her, entirely justified, defense when she commented on the shootings.
Being true to form the media, and of course the Dem�s, would constantly harp on Palin being based in Arizona as a supposed indication of her �insensitivity�.
A sad, but inescapable, and frankly to be avoided, harsh reality.

Secondly in purely Electoral College practicalities if by being based in the South-West the aim is to shore up that area then it seems a sub-optimal option.
If, by the time the polls had closed in Arizona, Florida had been lost, then winning the states of Colorado and Arizona would be meaningless.
It would be understandable that the thinking might be that being based in Arizona would make travel to Alaska easier than from Florida, but for winning the election it would also be meaningless.

It is no mystery as to why the Dem�s are holding their convention in North Carolina and the Republicans in Florida.
Those states, plus Virginia and Ohio are the winning or losing (Ohio/Florida definitely, Virginia/North Carolina probably) of the 2012 election.
For Palin, if based in Florida, they can all be readily visited on as many occasions as needed to win them-to be based so far away in Arizona might be to give away the election.
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Would be a huge pay cut and she is way over qualified to be a governor of such a small state.


Please list these so called qualifications...
(laughing hysterically)
You may have missed the point.
Originally Posted by GrizzlyKid
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Would be a huge pay cut and she is way over qualified to be a governor of such a small state.


Please list these so called qualifications...
(laughing hysterically)


I'd be willing to bet that a lot of your waking hours are spent in those dark and uncharted waters we call hysteria. crazy eek sick

GTC

Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by GrizzlyKid
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Would be a huge pay cut and she is way over qualified to be a governor of such a small state.


Please list these so called qualifications...
(laughing hysterically)


I'd be willing to bet that a lot of your waking hours are spent in those dark and uncharted waters we call hysteria. crazy eek sick

GTC



I see you to prescribe to the philosohy of name calling, very mature of you. Your vindictive juvenile mentality fits very nicely with lovely mrs palin...
What name calling?
I would love to see her in the Senate, and I think she would have a real chance of getting there from AZ.

I still don't feel she could do well in any sort of national run.
If you think Palin has any chance of becoming POTUS,I wan't some of what you're smoking. She has ZERO chance of winning.
Originally Posted by okok
If you think Palin has any chance of becoming POTUS,I wan't some of what you're smoking. She has ZERO chance of winning.


0% WTF??? Spot on my boy!
Originally Posted by luv2safari
I would love to see her in the Senate, and I think she would have a real chance of getting there from AZ.

I still don't feel she could do well in any sort of national run.


Please, all you folks in the Lower 48 who want Sarah and her clan to move to your neighborhood and run for office to become YOUR Governor, US Representative, or US Senator or POTUS PLEASE, PLEASE do everything in your power to convince her.

To get her attention though I suggest you start a fundraising campaign to get some serious cash "inducement" because the PRIMARY thing that motivates Sarah is $$$$$$ followed by fame. Just don't tell her that any of the things you want her to run for has any actual responsibilities or involves anything resembling real work. That would scare her off for sure.

And, PLEASE take Joe Miller.

And, this cowardly little douchebag - Francis "Schaeffer" Cox - and his followers. Oops, looks like they'll be in jail for awhile.

Maybe Sherrif Joe can get them transferred to his exemplary facility. They'd certainly get along and they'd all get along nicely with Joe and Sarah. They're all a bunch of delusional narcissistic personalities.

They'd be wonderful additions to any state that really, really wants them.
Wow!

That pesky "Mouthy POS Virus" is really running wild in your district, it would seem.

I'd prescribe eating chit, ...and howling at the Moon, for starters.

GTC
Originally Posted by okok
If you think Palin has any chance of becoming POTUS,I wan't some of what you're smoking. She has ZERO chance of winning.




You guys be agreeing with George Will, himself, about Sarah Palin.

Let us not mince words. There are at most five plausible Republican presidents on the horizon � Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, former Utah governor and departing ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, former Massachusetts governor Romney and former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty.
� George Will March 6, 2011


Let us not mince words indeed.

Poll the voters when they are paying $5-6 bucks per gallon.
Even if they magically drop the price just before the election.

The higher the gas price at the pump, the better Sarah Palin and her energy development ideas are gonna look.

Compared to:
Mitt Romney was for cap and trade before he was against it.
Now he is kinda in the middle.

Jon Huntsman is still in favor of cap and trade.

Tim Pawlenty has signed cap and tax legislation.

Mitch Daniels wants an oil import tax.

Then there is the ObamaCare problem.
No one fought harder against that screw job than Palin.

Romney has his RomneyCare and both Daniels and Huntsman have the same problem.

Then there is the debt/deficit problem.

The only front runner to endorse Paul Ryan�s Roadmap for America�s Future is Sarah Palin.
When Washington Republicans cut their $100 billion budget cut to $60 billion in February while the deficit went up $233 billion that same month.
Where were all those front runners when Sarah Palin said this:

�I am kind of embarrassed for some of the GOP, for them to be assuming that the American public believes that this is a serious discussion, when we are talking only about $54 billion in cuts that they have on the table,� Palin said. �We need to be looking more along the lines of a [Kentucky Sen.] Rand Paul $500 billion cut � and granted that is more long-term than just these continuing resolutions, and the cuts that we need to make there just to sustain our government.
�We need much greater cuts � and a more pro-growth development, pro-industry agenda � being plugged into these budgets,� she said. �They need to be bold and strong, and they need a steel spine. They need to keep Americans believing that the GOP principles will be able to be those things � when they�re plugged in appropriately � to get the economy on the right track.
�We are going to lose faith in the party, if we just take these little, tiny baby steps � and if that takes a fight, then hopefully the GOP leadership is willing to fight for America�s future.�

That leaves Haley Barbour and some names G. Will left off his list.
Mike Huckabee whose PAC just went broke.
Newt Gingrich and Donald Trump who both have the same problem�three wives apiece.

George Will understands Palin about as well as he did Reagan.
In 1980, he endorsed Howard Baker over Reagan.
And we all know how that worked out�
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
The higher the gas price at the pump, the better Sarah Palin and her energy development ideas are gonna look.


Listed below are Sarah Palin's complete portfolio of energy development ideas. Please review.












Yep, that's the complete list. Just as thorough and incisive as Sarah's ideas on any matter of policy or governance facing the US or any of the states.

Please feel free to intice her to the Ozarks. She'd fit right in.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by okok
If you think Palin has any chance of becoming POTUS,I wan't some of what you're smoking. She has ZERO chance of winning.




You guys be agreeing with George Will, himself, about Sarah Palin.

Let us not mince words. There are at most five plausible Republican presidents on the horizon � Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, former Utah governor and departing ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, former Massachusetts governor Romney and former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty.
� George Will March 6, 2011


Let us not mince words indeed.

Poll the voters when they are paying $5-6 bucks per gallon.
Even if they magically drop the price just before the election.

The higher the gas price at the pump, the better Sarah Palin and her energy development ideas are gonna look.

Compared to:
Mitt Romney was for cap and trade before he was against it.
Now he is kinda in the middle.

Jon Huntsman is still in favor of cap and trade.

Tim Pawlenty has signed cap and tax legislation.

Mitch Daniels wants an oil import tax.

Then there is the ObamaCare problem.
No one fought harder against that screw job than Palin.

Romney has his RomneyCare and both Daniels and Huntsman have the same problem.

Then there is the debt/deficit problem.

The only front runner to endorse Paul Ryan�s Roadmap for America�s Future is Sarah Palin.
When Washington Republicans cut their $100 billion budget cut to $60 billion in February while the deficit went up $233 billion that same month.
Where were all those front runners when Sarah Palin said this:

�I am kind of embarrassed for some of the GOP, for them to be assuming that the American public believes that this is a serious discussion, when we are talking only about $54 billion in cuts that they have on the table,� Palin said. �We need to be looking more along the lines of a [Kentucky Sen.] Rand Paul $500 billion cut � and granted that is more long-term than just these continuing resolutions, and the cuts that we need to make there just to sustain our government.
�We need much greater cuts � and a more pro-growth development, pro-industry agenda � being plugged into these budgets,� she said. �They need to be bold and strong, and they need a steel spine. They need to keep Americans believing that the GOP principles will be able to be those things � when they�re plugged in appropriately � to get the economy on the right track.
�We are going to lose faith in the party, if we just take these little, tiny baby steps � and if that takes a fight, then hopefully the GOP leadership is willing to fight for America�s future.�

That leaves Haley Barbour and some names G. Will left off his list.
Mike Huckabee whose PAC just went broke.
Newt Gingrich and Donald Trump who both have the same problem�three wives apiece.

George Will understands Palin about as well as he did Reagan.
In 1980, he endorsed Howard Baker over Reagan.
And we all know how that worked out�


LOL don't confuse the moderates with facts they aren't going to listen too.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Get a raincoat - liberal heads are about to assplode.

+1.
Originally Posted by BrownDog
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
The higher the gas price at the pump, the better Sarah Palin and her energy development ideas are gonna look.


Listed below are Sarah Palin's complete portfolio of energy development ideas. Please review.












Yep, that's the complete list. Just as thorough and incisive as Sarah's ideas on any matter of policy or governance facing the US or any of the states.

Please feel free to intice her to the Ozarks. She'd fit right in.





Well, golly gee, you forgot to fill in your list.
Here, I fixed it for you:

Palin vs. Obama Gas War

Posted on March 16 2011 - 10:00 AM - Posted by: Whitney Pitcher

One of Governor Palin�s key pieces of legislation�Alaska�s Clear and Equitable Share (ACES), legislation outlining a tax structure for oil companies� has come under attack from Alaskan politicians, oil companies, and the press as a means of undermining Governor Palin�s gubernatorial legacy.

(Also under attack by several Campfire posters from Alaska�)

Over a series of posts, we will highlight the foundation and principles on which ACES was developed, the success in oil development the legislation brought, and the players involved in attacking the Governor Palin�s cornerstone pieces of legislation. The first post in this series, which discussed the anti-corruption, pro-growth principles that molded the legislation and the transparent process in which is was passed, can be found here. This second post in the series will highlight the success of ACES since its passage more than three years ago

With the signing of this bill, we can turn the page and look forward to a new era of stability and investment opportunities developing Alaska�s resources, creating new jobs and a strong economy for years to come.
-Governor Palin upon signing ACES into law

More than three years following the passage of this bill, Governor Palin�s assertions regarding ACES have come to fruition. ACES has created a stable environment for investment and development of oil and has provided a boost to Alaskan jobs and the economy, while concurrently boosting state revenue. In short, ACES has been a success.
In the year following the passage of ACES, the number of oil wells in Alaska increased, indicating that ACES created a favorable environment for development. From the year prior to the passage of ACES to 2009, capital investment on the North Slope increased 33% to $2.2 billion, indicating that oil companies are making investments in future development. More recently, a poll of petroleum executives indicated that a greater percentage of executives thought that ACES �promoted investment� than 2/3 of the 24 other states who were included in the survey. Earlier this month, a Spanish oil company, Repsol, announced that it would be devoting more than three-quarters of a billion dollars to North Slope exploration.

ACES has been beneficial to oil companies of all shapes and sizes. In fact, since the passage of ACES, the number of oil companies filing tax returns with the state of Alaska has doubled indicating that more and more companies are seeking to develop in the state. Actually, Alaska has the second most favorable business tax climate in the country, moving up two spots since the passage of ACES. In fact, since 2006, the state of Alaska has given $3 billion in investment incentivizing tax breaks to oil companies. ACES taxes net profits rather than gross revenues (like Governor Murkowski�s oil tax structure) and offers tax credits to oil companies, which yielded high profits for large oil companies like ConocoPhillips and high praise from smaller oil companies. In fact in the year following the passage of ACES, ConocoPhillips Alaskan oil production accounted for 29% of its worldwide income despite only accounting for only 12% of its output. The flexibility of ACES� taxation mechanism in conjunction with changes in oil prices has proven to be beneficial to ConnocoPhillips as well. When oil prices dropped in 2009, their Alaskan profit�s percentage was higher than 2008 when oil prices were high, ranging from 35-55% of their total profits in the first three quarters of 2009. Additionally, Former Republican Alaskan legislator, Ray Metcalfe, highlighted that ACES provides a much lower risk for development and 10 times the profit per barrel for oil companies in Alaska compared to oil rich Iraq. Current Alaska state senator Bill Wielechowski spoke to Bob and Mark in February about how ACES has benefited both oil companies and the state of Alaska (H/T Kelsey)

In addition to the benefits ACES provides oil companies, ACES has proven beneficial to the people of Alaska�both in the way of jobs and state revenue. After all, the compass that guided Governor Palin in this effort was the Alaska constitution, which stated that resource development must be done for the maximum benefit of the people. Oil jobs have increased since the passage of ACES with 2009 bringing a record high number of oil jobs. Additionally, even in spite of the economic recession in recent years, Alaska�s job market, with 1/3 of jobs related to the oil industry, has remained strong. Alaska�s unemployment numbers have remained lower than the national average since 2009. Alaska�s economy ACES has also generated more revenue for the state since its passage than the previous two oil structures would have under current oil prices and production. Such revenue helped allowed Governor Palin to put $5 billion in state savings and forward fund education while she was governor. Additionally,a portion of oil revenues provide Alaskans, as resource owners, with a permanent fund dividend, which is essentially akin to stockholders receiving their share of a company�s profits.
When Governor Palin signed ACES into law, she asserted that this legislation would provide stability, spur investment and development, strengthen the economy, and create jobs.
By all accounts, Governor Palin�s assertions ring true, and her detractors must eat crow once again.



Originally Posted by BOWSINGER


Well, golly gee, you forgot to fill in your list.
Here, I fixed it for you:

Palin vs. Obama Gas War

Posted on March 16 2011 - 10:00 AM - Posted by: Whitney Pitcher

One of Governor Palin�s key pieces of legislation�Alaska�s Clear and Equitable Share (ACES), legislation outlining a tax structure for oil companies� has come under attack from Alaskan politicians, oil companies, and the press as a means of undermining Governor Palin�s gubernatorial legacy.

(Also under attack by several Campfire posters from Alaska�)

Over a series of posts, we will highlight the foundation and principles on which ACES was developed, the success in oil development the legislation brought, and the players involved in attacking the Governor Palin�s cornerstone pieces of legislation. The first post in this series, which discussed the anti-corruption, pro-growth principles that molded the legislation and the transparent process in which is was passed, can be found here. This second post in the series will highlight the success of ACES since its passage more than three years ago

With the signing of this bill, we can turn the page and look forward to a new era of stability and investment opportunities developing Alaska�s resources, creating new jobs and a strong economy for years to come.
-Governor Palin upon signing ACES into law

More than three years following the passage of this bill, Governor Palin�s assertions regarding ACES have come to fruition. ACES has created a stable environment for investment and development of oil and has provided a boost to Alaskan jobs and the economy, while concurrently boosting state revenue. In short, ACES has been a success.
In the year following the passage of ACES, the number of oil wells in Alaska increased, indicating that ACES created a favorable environment for development. From the year prior to the passage of ACES to 2009, capital investment on the North Slope increased 33% to $2.2 billion, indicating that oil companies are making investments in future development. More recently, a poll of petroleum executives indicated that a greater percentage of executives thought that ACES �promoted investment� than 2/3 of the 24 other states who were included in the survey. Earlier this month, a Spanish oil company, Repsol, announced that it would be devoting more than three-quarters of a billion dollars to North Slope exploration.

ACES has been beneficial to oil companies of all shapes and sizes. In fact, since the passage of ACES, the number of oil companies filing tax returns with the state of Alaska has doubled indicating that more and more companies are seeking to develop in the state. Actually, Alaska has the second most favorable business tax climate in the country, moving up two spots since the passage of ACES. In fact, since 2006, the state of Alaska has given $3 billion in investment incentivizing tax breaks to oil companies. ACES taxes net profits rather than gross revenues (like Governor Murkowski�s oil tax structure) and offers tax credits to oil companies, which yielded high profits for large oil companies like ConocoPhillips and high praise from smaller oil companies. In fact in the year following the passage of ACES, ConocoPhillips Alaskan oil production accounted for 29% of its worldwide income despite only accounting for only 12% of its output. The flexibility of ACES� taxation mechanism in conjunction with changes in oil prices has proven to be beneficial to ConnocoPhillips as well. When oil prices dropped in 2009, their Alaskan profit�s percentage was higher than 2008 when oil prices were high, ranging from 35-55% of their total profits in the first three quarters of 2009. Additionally, Former Republican Alaskan legislator, Ray Metcalfe, highlighted that ACES provides a much lower risk for development and 10 times the profit per barrel for oil companies in Alaska compared to oil rich Iraq. Current Alaska state senator Bill Wielechowski spoke to Bob and Mark in February about how ACES has benefited both oil companies and the state of Alaska (H/T Kelsey)

In addition to the benefits ACES provides oil companies, ACES has proven beneficial to the people of Alaska�both in the way of jobs and state revenue. After all, the compass that guided Governor Palin in this effort was the Alaska constitution, which stated that resource development must be done for the maximum benefit of the people. Oil jobs have increased since the passage of ACES with 2009 bringing a record high number of oil jobs. Additionally, even in spite of the economic recession in recent years, Alaska�s job market, with 1/3 of jobs related to the oil industry, has remained strong. Alaska�s unemployment numbers have remained lower than the national average since 2009. Alaska�s economy ACES has also generated more revenue for the state since its passage than the previous two oil structures would have under current oil prices and production. Such revenue helped allowed Governor Palin to put $5 billion in state savings and forward fund education while she was governor. Additionally,a portion of oil revenues provide Alaskans, as resource owners, with a permanent fund dividend, which is essentially akin to stockholders receiving their share of a company�s profits.
When Governor Palin signed ACES into law, she asserted that this legislation would provide stability, spur investment and development, strengthen the economy, and create jobs.
By all accounts, Governor Palin�s assertions ring true, and her detractors must eat crow once again.




By golly you Ozarkians have sure smartened up since I grew up in an adjoining state. You now seem able to divine "truth" and "fact" about events nearly a continent away from you based on a single article written by that paragon of truth and knowledge Whitney Pitcher of Conservatives4Palin. Wow! Certainly an unquestionable source of objectivity!

But I do recall that many of you Ozarkians could divine "truth" even way back when I was growing up - dancing around "speaking in tongues" and doing the hokey pokey with rattlesnakes seemed convincing methods of "divining" truth when I was a kid. Your methods are more electronically sophisticated now - but no more effective.

So, ACES is Sarah's big resource development idea? Her lasting legacy that provides her resource development policy credentials? The basis on which she'd guide the nation's energy policy?

Where to start...

Well, let's see. I live in Alaska, I don't just fantasize about it. I know the state resource managers and the lawyers who actually drafted the legislation that became ACES. I know the legislators responsible for amending and passing it. I know how and why ACES was enacted into law.

For those of you out-of-staters the key legislators supporting and getting ACES passed were Democrats. A very conservative Republican (who Sarah Palin HATED) was President of the Alaska State Senate in a coalition with Democrats. She, the Senate Presicent, and they (the Democrats) controlled whether and in what form ACES would be passed. Sarah would have had NO oil tax legislation without their work. Sarah would have been able to do NOTHING without them.

Sarah was handed ACES by a resource development team made up of seasoned public servants - people who worked in government for 30 years and more through Republican and Democratic administrations. People who were there because of what they knew not their politics. People who served the PUBLIC INTEREST not a particular political agenda. They were, because of the political climate of the time, handed an opportunity to get something done in the interest of Alaskan's rather than in the interest of oil companies exploiting Alaska. A very rare opportunity, indeed!

ACES passed ONLY because of the work of the Democrats and because of the public outrage resulting from two factors:
1. The corruption trials of several legislators (all Republican) who were caught on video tape by the FBI being purchased by Bill Allen, owner of oil field service company VECO, and long term shill of the big oil companies (BP, Conoco-Phillips, Shell, Exxon-Mobil, etc.).

2. The efforts of Sarah's immediate predecessor as governor, Frank Murkowski, who had managed to alienate virtually the entire population of Alaska in just four short years (after a 20 year career in the US Senate), most recently and particularly, as a result of his last ham-handed effort at secretly negotiating and signing giveaway contracts with oil companies that gave them everything they wanted without ANY legislative or other oversight or accountability to Alaska's citizens.

Sarah was, in fact, elected ONLY because she was able to "appear" as the antithesis of Frank Murkowski. ACES was legislation conceptualized by resource managers, who had resigned under Murkowski's administration, but who were brought back by Sarah to help cement her "anti-corruption" posture. She had no idea what ACES was really about except that it was NOT what Frank Murkowski had done. Democrats in the state Senate were the ones who made ACES happen.

The oil companies hated ACES. They still hate ACES and are doing everything they can to repeal it. They don't want the "stable environment of ACES". They want the "stable environment" they had before when they had a higher profit margin. Why? Because, they say, ACES is a DISINCENTIVE for them to explore and develop oil and gas resources in Alaska. They want it repealed so they can "reinvest" the profits they gain (by reducing, by billions, the amount the citizens of Alaska get in return for allowing oil companies to pump and sell oil that Alaskan's own.)

Sarah's Lt. Governor, the guy she installed when she resigned halfway through her term, has introduced a bill to repeal ACES. Why? Because he says it serves as a disincentive to development of Alaska's oil and gas resources. He says (and the oil companies say) that they can't explore as much as they want to because of the high cost of doing exploratory and development work in Alaska since ACES was passed. They need a different "stable environment" - one that gives them a higher profit margin for their "good will" and "intention" to "reinvest" their windfall in new exploration and development. Of course, they can't actually commit to reinvesting anything or any legal provisions that would HOLD them to any actions. Private corporations accountable to shareholders, lack of future certainty of return on investment, etc., etc. Just give us the money and we'll see what we can do.

If Sarah Palin were governor of Alaska today she would NEVER propose or support ACES. Her positions since being selected as McCain's vice presidential candidate are a near 180 degrees from the positions she held in her first year as governor of Alaska. Her "energy policies" now consist of:

"Drill, baby, drill!" And, the opposite of what Obama or any other Democrat would support. That's it! Got any other examples of her "policies"?

How about AGIA - the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act? Every hear of that? It was Sarah's other centerpiece legislative achievement. It's related to resource development. It gives half a billion of Alaska's dollars to Trans-Canada (a Canadian pipeline company) to "develop" a gas pipeline in order to get Alaska's trillions of cubic feet of known gas reserves to market. It doesn't actually require a pipeline be built. The money isn't for actually building anything. It's for their "efforts" to "plan" and permit a pipeline and get commitments from the oil companies who HAVE access to the gas to use the pipeline to ship it.

How's that AGIA working for ya? You Ozarkians seen any Alaska gas yet? Neither have we Alaskans. Any clue why? Because they can't get commitments from the oil companies who hold the leases to actually begin extracting the gas they KNOW and have known for 40 years is there (including what they flare off every day).

What's Sarah's next idea to get the oil companies to commit and start shipping that gas as quickly as possible? Heard anything lately?

Let me tell you what they would be: tax "incentives" and other giveaways to oil companies direct from the oil company playbook. Sarah would now support exactly what the oil companies want - she'd now be supporting policies exactly the opposite of ACES.

Why? Because she's now a "conservative" and that's what "conservatives" advocate. It's the Fox/Hooter's News position. It's the oil company and big corporation position. It's doctrine.

Sarah has no policies or ideas other than those that will get Sarah more public attention and increase her ability to milk $$$$$ from the ignorant worshippers who confuse a sound-bite for an idea, which apparently includes you. Sarah fits perfectly on Hooter's News. She is the quintessential empty suit (or tank top).

I pity you poor folks who can't see through her style over substance. But since you can't, why don't you get together an event and hire Sarah and Joe Miller (another failed Alaskan nutjob who has recently signed with the "speakers bureau" that handles Sarah and G.W. Bush) to come and take your hard-earned dollars for gracing a stage near you and giving you more "enlightenment"?

Please, PLEASE, spend your money supporting them both!

And, invite them both to move permanently to Arkansas. I can assure you that they'd do it...for enough money.

Oh, by the way, you and little Whitney Pitcher should be aware that Sarah hates former Republican legislator Ray Metcalfe and espouses policies that are diametrically opposed to those of current Democratic state Senator Bill Wielechowski. That should tell you where Sarah's policies would stand today on ACES. They support it. She'd oppose it.
I for one don't like Palin and most if not all of you guys know that. However she probably talked to John McCain, that is a transplant to AZ himself, and he probably told her if she wants a Senate seat, move to AZ. He then probably told her to stay in the senate for a term and don't quit and then make a run for the Presidency.
Many forget McCain was a transplant that moved to AZ to get elected to the House. He picked a good district and won. The Clintons moved to NY for the same reason because they found a place that lady could win a senate seat.
I see Palin being a senator and stands a very good chance of winning the senate compared to the other republicans who have expressed interest. I know in this case, I would vote for her and I don't like her. She would have majority support from most that share her views. She will struggle in Dem counties like Pima, but with the majority of Maricopa county and Pinal supporting her, she'll win anyway.

Either way it will be a good move for her and her wallet. AZ is a nice place. Hope she does cuz I would hate for Jon Kyl's seat to go dem for 6 years.

Kique
Like I posted before��Florida makes more sense to me.

By M. JOSEPH SHEPPARD'S "A POINT OF VIEW" on March 16, 2011
There has been media speculation that Palin is looking to base her campaign, should it eventuate, in Arizona.
This has an appeal for her given family considerations with her daughter Bristol and her grandchild having recently moved there but for two reasons it is not the best option.

Firstly there is the memory of Palin�s being unfairly pilloried by the media for her supposed connection with the Gifford�s tragedy and the subsequent further attacks on her for her, entirely justified, defense when she commented on the shootings.
Being true to form the media, and of course the Dem�s, would constantly harp on Palin being based in Arizona as a supposed indication of her �insensitivity�.
A sad, but inescapable, and frankly to be avoided, harsh reality.

Secondly in purely Electoral College practicalities if by being based in the South-West the aim is to shore up that area then it seems a sub-optimal option.
If, by the time the polls had closed in Arizona, Florida had been lost, then winning the states of Colorado and Arizona would be meaningless.
It would be understandable that the thinking might be that being based in Arizona would make travel to Alaska easier than from Florida, but for winning the election it would also be meaningless.

It is no mystery as to why the Dem�s are holding their convention in North Carolina and the Republicans in Florida.
Those states, plus Virginia and Ohio are the winning or losing (Ohio/Florida definitely, Virginia/North Carolina probably) of the 2012 election.
For Palin, if based in Florida, they can all be readily visited on as many occasions as needed to win them-to be based so far away in Arizona might be to give away the election.
Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Wow!

That pesky "Mouthy POS Virus" is really running wild in your district, it would seem.

I'd prescribe eating chit, ...and howling at the Moon, for starters.

GTC



I told all of you num nuts that no one up here but a select few can stand Palin and good old Joe. Yesterdays News boys!
Don't pay any attention to BrownDog[AK_Chessie] .He had to change his user name because he was outed as a Democrat politician and who also got his ass kicked by Sarah Palin.LOL.

My father debated him and decimated his pathetic jealous rant about Mrs. Palin.

There's not much worse than a Dem politician.

This is where my father's debate with this moron[BrownDog,aka AK_Chessie] begins.I had a good laugh reading my father's [sportingspecialist] beat down of this failed Demonrat politician.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3791141/13
Hey, shouldn't you be licking hugo chavezs nuts for a little heating oil?
Damn Dog! Well put!
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Damn Dog! Well put!


lmao, he got his azz kicked on the debate that a poster so generously provided for our recollection and now he comes back to take more of an azz beating.

I love guys that love to get their azz beat, they're so much fun.

as to the ACES argument Brown Dog and Walt ain't the only ones that live here, they're just some of the stupid ones that share this area code.

you boys want to tell us how much oil is flowing thru the pipeline these days compared to several years ago?

care to cite the number of exploratory wells on the Slope currently?

care to tell us how the Fed gov't is going to keep spending money (they don't have) up here on the largest welfare state in the nation? especially with Uncle Ted pushing up daisies?

care to cite the difference in taxation and thus profitability (yes there's that evil word profit, though I attached a suffix to throw you off the scent) between what the oil companies make off a barrel of oil here vs. North Dakota?

or do you just want to continue to lie out yer azzes?
Originally Posted by BrownDog
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
The higher the gas price at the pump, the better Sarah Palin and her energy development ideas are gonna look.


Listed below are Sarah Palin's complete portfolio of energy development ideas. Please review.












Yep, that's the complete list. Just as thorough and incisive as Sarah's ideas on any matter of policy or governance facing the US or any of the states.

Please feel free to intice her to the Ozarks. She'd fit right in.




At least Whitney Pitcher didn�t leave the page blank like you did.
Glad I could fix your major boo-boo.
No thanks is necessary.
Hope you made it all the way thru the Sarah article to the last line before your lips got tired and your fingertip got sore.

What does crow taste like, anyways?

And while you�re at it, please tell me how I can �intice� Sarah to the Ozarks?

I would love to do that�but my dictionary can�t find your word.


Posted by: Whitney Pitcher
Governor Palin�s political career has been marked by a consistent efforts to rid Alaska of corruption, remove pervasive crony capitalism, and make government more transparent. Her proposal of Alaska�s Clear and Equitable Share is an excellent example of her reaching all three aims. Under her predecessor, Governor Murkowski, the Petroleum Profits Tax (PPT), a oil tax scheme, was implemented. PPT taxed oil companies 22.5% of their net profits, compared to the 10% tax on gross revenues that was previously in place. A tax on net profits was intended to encourage development and production. However, this legislation had two major problems: corruption and failure to both bring in sufficient revenue and increase development.

The passage of PPT in September of 2006 was later found to be marred by extortion, bribery, and conspiracy. Three state legislators were indicted in May of 2007. Two of these individuals were later convicted and sentenced (one is still being dealt with in the courts) on corruption charges for their improper dealings with the oilfield company, VECO, in passing PPT. Governor Murkowski�s chief of staff, Jim Clark, also later plead guilty to conspiracy for hiding campaign contributions to Murkowski�s campaign from VECO. Prosecutors charged that that Clark used his position to push for the tax rate preferred by VECO�PPT. Suffice it to say, PPT�s passage was tainted, which contributed to the Palin administration�s reasons for re-visiting this tax structure. Additionally, Governor Palin tasked the Alaska Department of Revenue with evaluating PPT�s generation of revenue and industry reinvestment. This report found that revenues were lower than anticipated (to the tune of $800 million lower), operational and capital costs were higher, and tax credits were not effectively spurring production and development.
Following this report, Governor Palin introduced a new tax structure that not only addressed the problems of the PPT, but also had its foundation in the Alaska state constitution, which states that resources must be developed for the maximum benefit of the people of Alaska:
The new plan, called Alaska�s Clear and Equitable Share, or ACES, is a hybrid of a gross and net tax system. It includes a minimum 10 percent tax based on gross receipts for the North Slope�s legacy fields with a 25 percent net tax to encourage new development and reinvestment in existing infrastructure. ACES also allows for tax credits on future work. It restricts capital expense deductions to scheduled maintenance and implements strong audit and information sharing provisions.

As James P. Lucier described in the Wall Street Journal, Governor Palin�s plan accounted for fluctuation in oil prices and provided incentive for development:
As a new governor in 2007, Mrs. Palin stepped in to address the fiscal crisis and restore accountability. Working with Democrats and Republicans alike, she chose a 25% profits tax. But in lean years the state reverts to a 10% gross revenue tax on legacy fields that do not require massive continuing inputs of new capital.
Relative to the old system, Mrs. Palin�s plan � called �Alaska�s Clear and Equitable Share� (ACES) � improves incentives for developing new resources. It ensures the state does well in boom times � as it is doing now � when oil prices are high. But it also hedges against low prices in the future by ensuring that oil companies exposed to commodity price swings don�t face a crushing tax burden when commodity prices fall.
Her plan includes an escalator clause that gives the state a larger share of revenues when oil prices rise. This is common to production-sharing agreements all over the world.

Governor Palin released a draft of the bill 17 days before the Special Session to enable both the legislature and the public to read the proposal prior to its discussion in the legislature. Her oil and gas team also held a series of briefings throughout the state prior to its discussion in the Special Session to allow the people of Alaska to be informed about the proposal. The bill was passed very easily in both the House and the Senate with bipartisan support before Governor Palin signed it in December of 2007. In signing this bill, Governor Palin removed the taint of corruption from taxation negotiation process and submitted a strong piece of legislation ensuring that the people of Alaska received their �clear and equitable share� as shareholders in the resources of the state.
One common misconception regarding this piece of legislation is that it is a windfall profits tax that hurts industry. In reality, such a tax is a severance tax, and its basis is constitutional. Rob Harrison addressed the former misconception in a post in June of 2009 in which he referenced a piece characterizing Palin�s ACES legislation as a severance tax:
State severance taxes charged on production of oil and gas and minerals are common throughout the United States. Also sometimes called �production taxes,� they�re charged by the state from beneath whose land valuable resources are extracted, and they�re designed not to punish the energy companies, but to recompense the state for its loss of a non-replaceable resource � one that must be quantified and taxed upon removal, if it is ever to be taxed at all. Severance taxes are therefore based on production from within the state, not on profits earned by the company extracting that production � even though the production may be measured in, and the tax assessed upon, the market value or gross revenues (as measured in dollars) received for that production, rather than an �in kind� delivery to the state in barrels or cubic feet as such. See, e.g., Tex. Tax Code �� 201.051 & 202.051 (Texas production taxes on gas and oil respectively)
It is not a windfall tax, as championed by liberals to capture even greater revenue during periods of larger profits. Instead, it is a tax that is levied on production and the loss of a resource. The state revenues generated by ACES , just as its name states ensure Alaskans receive their �clear and equitable share�.

More than three years later, why does this matter? It matters because Governor Palin�s record continues to be either ignored, misrepresented, or attacked. Governor Palin�s record is based on transparency and integrity, and she ensured that her administration did what was best for the people of the Alaska. When ACES was passed, it wasn�t a result of undue influence from oil companies, but it wasn�t a punitive tax aimed at the oil companies either. It was done in such a way that the people of Alaska received optimum benefits and the oil industry was encouraged to produce and develop. It has achieved those goals. Stay tuned for discussion of the success of ACES in boosting state revenue while increasing development, growing oil jobs, and allowing for a good business environment for both small and large oil companies

Send me some of yours!
Originally Posted by rte
Don't pay any attention to BrownDog[AK_Chessie] .He had to change his user name because he was outed as a Democrat politician and who also got his ass kicked by Sarah Palin.LOL.

My father debated him and decimated his pathetic jealous rant about Mrs. Palin.

There's not much worse than a Dem politician.

This is where my father's debate with this moron[BrownDog,aka AK_Chessie] begins.I had a good laugh reading my father's [sportingspecialist] beat down of this failed Demonrat politician.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3791141/13


Really? Goodness you do think you know a lot, don't you? A failed politician? Really? Nope, never been a politician - failed or otherwise.

But, yep, the nut doesn't fall far from the tree. You "decimate" others posts just like your father - with unsupported opinion and drivel. Gosh that's an impressive "beat down" that "won" a debate. So you and your father love and drool over Sarah. So what?

Why not contribute your own two cents worth of Palin-mania? Put something on the line with some facts?

Got any? What do YOU know? About ACES? AGIA? Anything explaining sister Sarah's energy policy credentials? Or, why you think Alaskans wouldn't (or shouldn't) cheer themselves hoarse if she left for Arizona or Arkansas or anywhere else. With a very few exceptions Alaskans would be overjoyed to see Sarah's sideshow move on.

Sarah is nothing to Alaska but a distraction. No, I'm wrong, she's actually a minor detriment too - portraying "her" Alaska to an unsuspecting audience of Lower 48 worshippers. You know "her" Alaska - the one that functions like a tourist trap where she "participates" in all those fully guided Alaskany activities she's never done before in all those Alaskan locations she's never been before while all made up for the benefit of all those worshipful TV viewers. Well, it did seem to all be filmed in Alaska, I'll give her that.

Let's hear some of YOUR fact-based perspective. Or do you need your father (or maybe your Mommy) to write one for you?

Drool on little guy.

Brown Dog, I like your style. Keep it coming.---Spano
Pull your head out of your Ar$$, clean the Shi% out of your eyes and look around. You will find that very few people back your position. Yesterdays News!
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Pull your head out of your Ar$$, clean the Shi% out of your eyes and look around. You will find that very few people back your position. Yesterdays News!


Talking about people pulling they head out of their ass look in the mirror oh you can't see the mirror with your head up your ass.
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Send me some of yours!


No, not in my lifetime.
Didn't ya save any money from them no-bid contracts?

Hey, maybe you can ask the UN for help

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2011/03/01/opinion/editorials/doc4d6c993ea3aa1789872718.txt
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Pull your head out of your Ar$$, clean the Shi% out of your eyes and look around. You will find that very few people back your position. Yesterdays News!


lmao Walt

you're too easy

that's your response to the questions I posed?



I'm not particularly interested in how many people "back my position"

I make my position based on facts, not emotion.

Fact 1. it was a majority that elected our current prez (though I wasn't crazy about the alternative, sucks less does indeed suck less)

Fact 2. odds are the majority of us posting here from Alaska couldn't afford to be here without the oil that's flowed thru that pipeline, all done by those BIG, EVIL corps. that folks like you and Brown Dog rail against

Fact 3. we're an extraction economy, yep, oil, gas, ore, coal, timber, fish etc. all the things you liberals so detest, we're not going to out manufacture the Chinese, or have a lot of big software companies headquarted here etc. if we're going to continue, we better extract

Fact 4. dumbazzes like you and Brown Dog are what's wrong with this country and this state, you cry for more and more from gov't like spoiled children that want a free lunch, welcome to the free world....the lunch ain't free

Fact 5. largely due to the Democrats Brown Dog and you praise our state spends over a billion dollars per annum to service 700K people, all brought on by the riches provided by the oil that the oil companies bring to market. But your gratitude is "kill the golden goose that lays the eggs, that bitch has to give more"
When you're right you are right on!
Originally Posted by AK_Chessie
I don't have time to destroy your worthless drivel at the moment. I'm leaving Alaska for a week in Puerto Vallarta.

Oh, yeah, by the way I live in Alaska. I worked in Alaska's political scene for 35 years. I saw Sarah's political rise and fall here. Hell, we wouldn't even elect her to anything again. Check out the facts jerkoff. She'll NEVER be elected president. My money is that she won't run because all she cares abbout is money and celebrity.



How convenient you forgot that you admitted you were a politico.

It's abundantly clear that you were a Demonrat politico so by definition you are a failure.

All of your posts are dripping with envy over Sarah's success and popularity and your anonymity as a failed politico.

Why did you change your user name from AK_Chessie to BrownDog?

Was it to hide from the fact that you got your ass waxed in this debate.LOL.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3791141/12


Shouldn't you be taking a nap old man.We don't want you to get too tired,especially at your advanced age.Maybe you should call your boyfriend to come and wipe the drool from you chin.LOL.



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So... What is your point?
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
So... What is your point?



Use em for all their worth, then they can get the [bleep] out; ain't it
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by AK_Chessie
I don't have time to destroy your worthless drivel at the moment. I'm leaving Alaska for a week in Puerto Vallarta.

Oh, yeah, by the way I live in Alaska. I worked in Alaska's political scene for 35 years. I saw Sarah's political rise and fall here. Hell, we wouldn't even elect her to anything again. Check out the facts jerkoff. She'll NEVER be elected president. My money is that she won't run because all she cares abbout is money and celebrity.



How convenient you forgot that you admitted you were a politico.

It's abundantly clear that you were a Demonrat politico so by definition you are a failure.

All of your posts are dripping with envy over Sarah's success and popularity and your anonymity as a failed politico.

Why did you change your user name from AK_Chessie to BrownDog?

Was it to hide from the fact that you got your ass waxed in this debate.LOL.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3791141/12


Shouldn't you be taking a nap old man.We don't want you to get too tired,especially at your advanced age.Maybe you should call your boyfriend to come and wipe the drool from you chin.LOL.



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Yes, yes, the good old days�AK Chessie vs. SportingSpecialist�where is the man when we need him?

I have done a lot of look-ups on Sarah, but I have never found anyone with the comprehensive knowledge of her background as SportingSpecialist:

"You're juvenile attempt at logic is again pathetic. By your reasoning ,if you don't live in Alaska you can't possibly understand Alaskan politics. LOL. Using your mutated logic one would conclude that because you don't live in Washington D.C you can't possibly understand national politics. LOL. Again you've impugned Sarah Palin. Any reasonable person, with a modicum of common sense, cannot possibly believe that a woman who births a special needs child is as selfish as you want members to believe. She has worked on fishing boat, which not easy work. She�s raised a family while serving the citizens of Alaska in multiple capacities. She is certainly not afraid of hard work in spite of your slanderous lies. Her record of accomplishments speaks for itself. As I stated earlier none of the slander you've proffered here reconciles with her tremendous popularity and her favorable pole ratings. Your slander of Sarah Palin seems to be more than just anger, it appears to be pathological. Are you the state trooper who threatened to shoot Palin�s father? Are you Andree McCloud ,who filed frivolous ethics complaints that have all been dismissed because they were shown not to have merit? Are one of the Republicans that fell to Palin�s righteous morality ? Are you a whiny liberal hack? Please enlighten us."


Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Pull your head out of your Ar$$, clean the Shi% out of your eyes and look around. You will find that very few people back your position. Yesterdays News!

Walt needs a plane ticket. wink
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
So... What is your point?



you're kidding right?


well just in case you're not

the basic point is I've had a belly full of people like you and Brown Dog, to last me several lifetimes.


as I stated earlier, your thought processes are what's wrong with this state and country.

I won't just sit by any longer, and let a guy like Brown Dog or you pretend he's all knowing cause he likes to hear himself speak.

Sean sums it up pretty well you're lie-liberal type folks, you talk chit long enough without being challenged by facts eventually it's not just your stupid azzes that believe it, but all the fat ignorant slobs sitting around thinking you really should get something for nothing.

Wouldn't be so bad, but they end up lettin all those stupid folk vote.

I've F__ing had enough.

my kids will most likely have a very tough row to hoe in this life, because people that are conservative and either run a biz for profit, work for someone that does and are prepared to pull their own weight have been lettin morons like you guys shape the debate cause they've been too busy makin a life for ourselves and others, and whining/speech makin just ain't their thing.

what's my point?

the Fed gov't is broke, their IOU the $ is on the verge of going worthless, backed by nada but empty promises

why?

cuz you pandering sumbitches begged em to spend money they don't have, and when it runs out you beg them to tax the very folks that do create jobs outa the country or outa existence.

folks on food stamps buying new snowmachines every other year, new motors etc. sound familiar Walt?


I'd rather still not take the time, but I'm done letting you mouthy muthaphuckas think you're correct cause busy folks haven't taken the time to date to tell you how full a chit you and all your fing theories are.


you get my point?


Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by AK_Chessie
I don't have time to destroy your worthless drivel at the moment. I'm leaving Alaska for a week in Puerto Vallarta.

Oh, yeah, by the way I live in Alaska. I worked in Alaska's political scene for 35 years. I saw Sarah's political rise and fall here. Hell, we wouldn't even elect her to anything again. Check out the facts jerkoff. She'll NEVER be elected president. My money is that she won't run because all she cares abbout is money and celebrity.



How convenient you forgot that you admitted you were a politico.

It's abundantly clear that you were a Demonrat politico so by definition you are a failure.

All of your posts are dripping with envy over Sarah's success and popularity and your anonymity as a failed politico.

Why did you change your user name from AK_Chessie to BrownDog?

Was it to hide from the fact that you got your ass waxed in this debate.LOL.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3791141/12


Shouldn't you be taking a nap old man.We don't want you to get too tired,especially at your advanced age.Maybe you should call your boyfriend to come and wipe the drool from you chin.LOL.



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Yes, yes, the good old days�AK Chessie vs. SportingSpecialist�where is the man when we need him?

I have done a lot of look-ups on Sarah, but I have never found anyone with the comprehensive knowledge of her background as SportingSpecialist:

"You're juvenile attempt at logic is again pathetic. By your reasoning ,if you don't live in Alaska you can't possibly understand Alaskan politics. LOL. Using your mutated logic one would conclude that because you don't live in Washington D.C you can't possibly understand national politics. LOL. Again you've impugned Sarah Palin. Any reasonable person, with a modicum of common sense, cannot possibly believe that a woman who births a special needs child is as selfish as you want members to believe. She has worked on fishing boat, which not easy work. She�s raised a family while serving the citizens of Alaska in multiple capacities. She is certainly not afraid of hard work in spite of your slanderous lies. Her record of accomplishments speaks for itself. As I stated earlier none of the slander you've proffered here reconciles with her tremendous popularity and her favorable pole ratings. Your slander of Sarah Palin seems to be more than just anger, it appears to be pathological. Are you the state trooper who threatened to shoot Palin�s father? Are you Andree McCloud ,who filed frivolous ethics complaints that have all been dismissed because they were shown not to have merit? Are one of the Republicans that fell to Palin�s righteous morality ? Are you a whiny liberal hack? Please enlighten us."



That's my father,and he's been abroad for over a year.He has been home several times to make sure we haven't burned down the house.LOL.He will return home this June for good.

Bowsinger you are correct about his knowledge of Sarah Palin.He and my mother spent a great deal of time researching her in an effort to discover what this woman stood for.I've read several of my father's books that were written about her as well as the book she published in 2009.Two and half years ago his office was strewn with articles and blogs that he reprinted from the internet in his efforts to conduct research about Sarah Palin.He,my mother,my sisters,my aunt and my cousins are all fans of this strong competent,conservative woman. Sarah Palin possesses more common sense than all her detractors combined.As my father has said "common sense can be more valuable than all the education in the world".
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
So... What is your point?


LOL you're stuck on stupid!
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
So... What is your point?



you're kidding right?


well just in case you're not

the basic point is I've had a belly full of people like you and Brown Dog, to last me several lifetimes.


as I stated earlier, your thought processes are what's wrong with this state and country.

I won't just sit by any longer, and let a guy like Brown Dog or you pretend he's all knowing cause he likes to hear himself speak.

Sean sums it up pretty well you're lie-liberal type folks, you talk chit long enough without being challenged by facts eventually it's not just your stupid azzes that believe it, but all the fat ignorant slobs sitting around thinking you really should get something for nothing.

Wouldn't be so bad, but they end up lettin all those stupid folk vote.

I've F__ing had enough.

my kids will most likely have a very tough row to hoe in this life, because people that are conservative and either run a biz for profit, work for someone that does and are prepared to pull their own weight have been lettin morons like you guys shape the debate cause they've been too busy makin a life for ourselves and others, and whining/speech makin just ain't their thing.

what's my point?

the Fed gov't is broke, their IOU the $ is on the verge of going worthless, backed by nada but empty promises

why?

cuz you pandering sumbitches begged em to spend money they don't have, and when it runs out you beg them to tax the very folks that do create jobs outa the country or outa existence.

folks on food stamps buying new snowmachines every other year, new motors etc. sound familiar Walt?


I'd rather still not take the time, but I'm done letting you mouthy muthaphuckas think you're correct cause busy folks haven't taken the time to date to tell you how full a chit you and all your fing theories are.


you get my point?



In some jurisdictions that's called a mega bitch slap.
Let me see if I get it now..... You are a really whinny kind of guy who is really pissed at the world as a whole. Many things that you said are correct. Lots of folks driving a new Sno-Go every year and no job period.


I think that our priorities are all out of whack. If a village can stand on its own with out government subsidies then they should fail. Ever been to Kivalina Ak? One of the most god forsaken places in the state and should have never been a village. Its a total of 3 feet above high tide and get smacked with storms almost every year. Stop spending money in places like Kivalina until they decide upon a way to make that village livable. Bet it would not last 2 months without government support.


We are not that far apart on these types of issues, really! Most of my views are more common sense-middle of the road than lib.

PS send some Cheese Please!
You definitely are on the Board of Directors for the stupid and worthless.
I'm only pissed at the stupid half of the world Walt, the ones that vote for people like Obama and ask gov't to do this, do that, do this, all with money that just isn't there.


as to "whinny" I ain't hung big enough to whinny

now THAT leaves me pizzed off at the whole world, if not for that fact I could be makin porn movies instead of correcting jabronis on the internet


the check/cheese is in the mail
Originally Posted by isaac
You definitely are on the Board of Directors for the stupid and worthless.


Thanks for saving me seat right next to yours!


Silly Man!
Good one!


I will look for my cheese!
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Let me see if I get it now..... You are a really whinny kind of guy who is really pissed at the world as a whole. Many things that you said are correct. Lots of folks driving a new Sno-Go every year and no job period.


I think that our priorities are all out of whack. If a village can stand on its own with out government subsidies then they should fail. Ever been to Kivalina Ak? One of the most god forsaken places in the state and should have never been a village. Its a total of 3 feet above high tide and get smacked with storms almost every year. Stop spending money in places like Kivalina until they decide upon a way to make that village livable. Bet it would not last 2 months without government support.


We are not that far apart on these types of issues, really! Most of my views are more common sense-middle of the road than lib. PS send some Cheese Please!


LOL who told you that your friend Machelle Obama?
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Damn Dog! Well put!


lmao, he got his azz kicked on the debate that a poster so generously provided for our recollection and now he comes back to take more of an azz beating.

I love guys that love to get their azz beat, they're so much fun.

as to the ACES argument Brown Dog and Walt ain't the only ones that live here, they're just some of the stupid ones that share this area code.

you boys want to tell us how much oil is flowing thru the pipeline these days compared to several years ago?

care to cite the number of exploratory wells on the Slope currently?

care to tell us how the Fed gov't is going to keep spending money (they don't have) up here on the largest welfare state in the nation? especially with Uncle Ted pushing up daisies?

care to cite the difference in taxation and thus profitability (yes there's that evil word profit, though I attached a suffix to throw you off the scent) between what the oil companies make off a barrel of oil here vs. North Dakota?

or do you just want to continue to lie out yer azzes?




Like I said, the higher the gas price at the pump, the better the PALIN Pipeline and Alaskan crude looks to the moderate independent voter.

Via Gov. Palin�s Facebook:
The New York Times just can�t seem to get much of anything right lately.
No wonder they�re facing economic and reputation woes.
Their article today falsely reporting on my record as governor is full of spin, and I shall call them out on it.

Regardless of the recent political posturing, ACES (Alaska�s Clear and Equitable Share) is a success for all stakeholders who want more domestic energy supplies for our great country.
The Alaskan people (who collectively own the natural resources, via our state constitution), the resource producers who bid on the right to develop our oil and gas, and consumers all benefit under ACES.
It incentivizes production and development. It works.
Amazingly, to the uninformed (or to those who really don�t want to incentivize oil exploration in America) ACES is spun to sound like an oil windfall profits tax and its progressivity is made to sound excessive. In reality, it was born of a need to have a tax structure that did three things:

1. It could not be created under a cloud of political corruption and self-dealing like the former Alaska administration and legislature�s PPT oil valuation structure. That�s a critical fact that is now frequently overlooked years later. Remember the legislators and oil industry players who went to jail because of bribes leading to votes in favor of the former administration�s PPT, which was unfairly tilted in favor of the resource producers against the resource owners (i.e., the people of Alaska)? Have we conveniently forgotten the fact that a corrupt process brought forth PPT, and I and others set out to change it by cleaning up the corruption?

2. It had to align the interests of Alaskans and the oil producers through exploration and production credits in partnership so that they benefit proportionally from commercialization of Alaska�s sovereign resources. This is very different from a government overtaxing personal or corporate income in which the government has no ownership stake in whatever it is that is being taxed.

3. It had to use a progressivity system that protects the producers from commercial strain when oil prices are low, otherwise the producers would seek development opportunities elsewhere. ACES does incentivize industry, but beware that Big Oil will always do what it does best for its shareholders: it will look out for its bottom line and always claim that it needs even more tax breaks. More power to them for trying, but resource owners deserve A CLEAR and EQUITABLE SHARE (ACES) of the value of their commonly-owned oil and gas.

ACES accomplished all three. The current criticism of this fair valuation makes no real sense. As an article at Big Government notes:

�The number of oil companies filing with the Alaska Department of Revenue has doubled indicating that competition has indeed increased. Alaska has the second most business friendly tax set-up � up two spots since the passage of ACES. Additionally, a report from Governor Parnell�s Department of Revenue indicated that 2009 yielded a record high in oil jobs. Even more recently, the newest employment numbers from Alaska show that oil job numbers were higher in January 2011 than in January 2010, indicating that jobs are growing at the seasonal level. Parnell argues that state revenues are in jeopardy, but it is estimated that his proposal would reduce revenues by $100-200 million.�
Most importantly, Alaska enjoys a $12 billion surplus thanks to ACES and the sound fiscal policies of my administration. I put billions of dollars aside in savings accounts (though I could have easily spent those billions and made a lot of friends with big-spending legislators on both sides of the aisle), and I continued to veto excess spending and Obama stimulus funds, and chopped earmarks by 86% � much to the chagrin of liberal legislators who were used as �sources� in the article. It�s kind of amusing to see state legislators claim credit for the surplus when they didn�t vote for ACES, and they cried to high heaven when I vetoed their wasteful spending on their special interest projects.
ACES accomplished all three. The current criticism of this fair valuation makes no real sense. As an article at Big Government notes:

�The number of oil companies filing with the Alaska Department of Revenue has doubled indicating that competition has indeed increased. Alaska has the second most business friendly tax set-up � up two spots since the passage of ACES. Additionally, a report from Governor Parnell�s Department of Revenue indicated that 2009 yielded a record high in oil jobs. Even more recently, the newest employment numbers from Alaska show that oil job numbers were higher in January 2011 than in January 2010, indicating that jobs are growing at the seasonal level. Parnell argues that state revenues are in jeopardy, but it is estimated that his proposal would reduce revenues by $100-200 million.�
Most importantly, Alaska enjoys a $12 billion surplus thanks to ACES and the sound fiscal policies of my administration. I put billions of dollars aside in savings accounts (though I could have easily spent those billions and made a lot of friends with big-spending legislators on both sides of the aisle), and I continued to veto excess spending and Obama stimulus funds, and chopped earmarks by 86% � much to the chagrin of liberal legislators who were used as �sources� in the article. It�s kind of amusing to see state legislators claim credit for the surplus when they didn�t vote for ACES, and they cried to high heaven when I vetoed their wasteful spending on their special interest projects.

See, competition works.
So does a transparent process.
- Sarah Palin



Randy, Isaac, Bowsinger: there is a verse in the Bible that quite accurately defines Walt, Brown Dog, Grizzkid et.al

"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion." Proverbs 18:2
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER


I have done a lot of look-ups on Sarah, but I have never found anyone with the comprehensive knowledge of her background as SportingSpecialist:
Yep, I admit it, by your standard of the number of "look-ups" I've done on Sarah I know absolutely nothing about her. I don't do "look-ups" on Sarah. I participate in real life and read facts as opposed to the garbage produced by bloggers paid by Sarah to pander to you.

I'm glad your "look-ups" on Sarah have cemented your view that no one has "the comprehensive knowledge of her background as SportingSpecialist". For all I know he may be the KING of wannabe Sarah Palin panty-sniffers. I'll bet he's done even more "look-ups" on her than you have. Please give him the "Sarah Palin look-up" record if you think he deserves it. It doesn't actually give him information but if it gives him (and you) gratification it's fine with me.


"By your reasoning ,if you don't live in Alaska you can't possibly understand Alaskan politics. LOL. Using your mutated logic one would conclude that because you don't live in Washington D.C you can't possibly understand national politics. LOL."

No, one musn't live in Alaska to have some grasp of Alaska political events. Or in Washingtod, DC to have some grasp of national politics. But, I think even you would understand that Alaskans, particularly those Alaska citizens who are directly involved in Alaska politics, have access to more information about how and why things happen in Alaska politics than say, some idiot doing "look-ups" several years after the fact from several thousand miles away. It works the same in national politics, too. Those involved have access to more information than those not involved.

But...maybe you guys doing "look-ups" will never understand that someone who participated in something might know more about it than you "look-uppers". Let's try anyway. Do you think you would know more about why and how events that you participated in happened in the Ozarks (or wherever you live) than, say someone living in Kotzebue, Alaska who just does "look-ups" about the events several years later? Nah, I guess not.


"Again you've impugned Sarah Palin. Any reasonable person, with a modicum of common sense, cannot possibly believe that a woman who births a special needs child is as selfish as you want members to believe..."

Wow, where to start on this one. I don't care about Sarah Palin's personal life. I'm sorry for her Down syndrome child. But giving birth to a developomentally disabled child really says NOTHING about Sarah's character. It was biology. Sarah didn't seek out an opportunity to give birth to a child with Down syndrome to martyr herself and serve others. If she'd wanted to do that she would have adopted one or more of the many, many developmentally disabled children who are orphans, whose parents have abandoned them, or whose parents have lost their parental rights because they were abusive/neglectful parents.

In case you don't understand it women give birth to developmentally disabled children every day. Some of the women are wonderful people. Some are not. The developmental disability of their children may or may not be due to the mother's character. In some instances it's a roll of the genetic dice. In others it's due to the mother's behavior - e.g. consumption of alcohol during pregnancy may (but not necessarily always will) cause developmental disabilities associated with Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders (do a "look-up" you'll find it.) This may or may not be a reflection of the mother's "character". Could be ignorance of the risks. Could be addiction. Could be pure malevolence. Each instance is individual.

Down Syndrome is due to genetics. It's more likely to occur when the parents, particularly, the mother is older at the time of the pregnancy. Sarah's experience is like that of other women her age who choose (or let chance choose for them) to become pregnant. The possiblity of giving birth ot a child with Down Syndrome is greater. In my opinion it's irresponsible to do it by chance and selfish to do it purposely because a woman who chooses to roll the genetic dice knowing she puts the child at greater risk does so for her own gratification and sentences the poor child to a life with limited potential. But, it's their lives and wombs and they get to choose.


"Her record of accomplishments speaks for itself. As I stated earlier none of the slander you've proffered here reconciles with her tremendous popularity and her favorable pole ratings."
Her record sure speaks for itself. But maybe you better look a little closer at her "accomplishments" so you'll understand what she's "accomplished" as well as how, and why. And, yes please check out the polls. As I have predicted, the more exposure Sarah gets the lower her poll numbers go. When most Alaskans knew virtually nothing about Sarah she had great poll numbers here. They've been declining every day since she was elected to statewide office. Her national poll numbers have followed the same pattern. It's not my opinion. It's fact. But it's predictable. The more people know about Sarah the less likely they are to vote for her. No matter how much you panty-sniffer wannabes "love" Sarah you can't change the way thinking people view her.

"Your slander of Sarah Palin seems to be more than just anger, it appears to be pathological. Are you the state trooper who threatened to shoot Palin�s father? Are you Andree McCloud ,who filed frivolous ethics complaints that have all been dismissed because they were shown not to have merit? Are one of the Republicans that fell to Palin�s righteous morality ? Are you a whiny liberal hack? Please enlighten us."
Gosh, thanks there Dr. Freud. It's pretty clear you're an expert on things "pathological" - like "pathological" mindless panty-sniffer worship that ignores facts and substitutes delusional fantasies. Please, carry on! Enjoy your fantasies. Maybe Sarah will send you some of her dirty panties and you can "fall to Palin's righteous morality" while you fondle them.



Sorry I can't get back here on the Fire to respond to you wannabe Sara Palin panty-sniffers more often. I've been out living life. I can only stop by here intermittently when I don't have actual things to do in real life.

But let's see. I changed my screen name because I wanted to. I like BrownDog better. Hiding from nothing. Happy to own up to anything I've ever said or done.

Politician? Nope. Apparently you poor folks don't understand that citizens can actually be involved in political action - beyond doing "look-ups" and ranting in online forums. But, it happens.

Actual people do actual things in real life. Got that? Here I'll repeat it for you. Actual people do actual things in real life.

And, I'll still put up a lot of money betting against Sarah ever running for president. If she ran she'd lose - wouldn't get past the first few primaries from the looks of the polls showing her trailing other potential Republican candidates in positives and exceeding them in negatives. And, hell that's just among Republicans. She would stand NO CHANCE in a general election with independent voters. Want to put up some actual cash to back up your mouth?

I admit, it can be hard to predict what Sarah's delusional vanity will prompt her do - if she thinks there's a buck or more celebrity in it for her she'll do anything.

But, even Sarah can read polls and her primary goal has nothing to do with public policy and everything to do with money and celebrity. She'll milk the political forum she's got for all the money and celebrity she can get - without actually having to do any work. When it comes down to the real work of running for president she won't do it. If she ran and lost her money-generating capacity and celebrity interest are diminished dramatically. If she dangles out the potential for running she'll keep panty-sniffers like you sending her money in hopes she'll run (or send them a pair of used panties). She won't run in 2012. She'll keep you panty-sniffers hoping beyond 2012 because that keeps the money coming in and allows her to retain some celebrity cachet for a while longer. Lose in the primaries and no one will care about her.

Here, Bowsinger, is some information from a source other than Sarah's paid bloggers regarding the issue of Sarah's centerpiece legislation in Alaska - you know the issues I addressed in an earlier post a few days BEFORE this article was printed. Compare my post with the information presented. Then do a few "look-ups".

You've apparently already found Sarah's paid staff response to the Times article. But, then like your other "look-ups" it's just Sarah's self-serving drivel. Her "response" quotes none of the other of the actors involved in the legislative process in support of her assertions. It simply attacks the NY Times.

The Times just reports the facts as those involved in the issues see them. Sarah reports only "her" facts. You believe Sarah. Keep it up and keep sending her money.

And, please, please, raise enough money to convince her to move to YOUR locality. She's nothing but a distraction in Alaska. She's irrelevant here. Maybe she still has some relevance in your state or community. Take her, please.

Sorry, Bowsinger, et al, I can't stay longer to play with you Sarah worshippers. I've gotta get back to real life. You might want to try it sometime. Turn off the computer. Step outside. You might find you enjoy it. Naaaaaah, guess not.

New York Times
March 17, 2011
Palin�s Successors (Republicans Too) Seek to Dismantle Her Energy LegacyBy WILLIAM YARDLEY
JUNEAU, Alaska � While every online swipe from former Gov. Sarah Palin still draws national attention and stirs fresh speculation about her political ambitions, back home she is no longer quite so imposing.

Even as she casts herself as an energy expert and is quick to attack the Obama administration on oil and gas issues, the two most prominent energy policies she put in place as governor of Alaska face new challenges less than two years after she left office.

Gov. Sean Parnell, Ms. Palin�s fellow Republican and former lieutenant, has announced that it is his top priority to undo parts of major oil tax increases that Ms. Palin made law. He argues that high state taxes, not just federal regulations, are preventing oil companies from exploring new drilling in Alaska and therefore jeopardizing future state revenues.

�Lower taxes means more competitive,� Mr. Parnell said last week. �It means more jobs.�

And the project Ms. Palin once portrayed as her principal legislative triumph, a plan to build a 1,700-mile natural gas pipeline that she said would transform the economy of Alaska and contribute to America�s domestic energy supply, seems an increasingly distant dream, undercut by low gas prices and more practical projects in other states.

�She made it an issue,� said Mike Chenault, the Republican speaker of the State House, who has sponsored a bill that would end Ms. Palin�s pipeline plan if firm evidence of progress is not documented by this summer. �That was the way that Alaska was going to move forward. As of yet, we haven�t, in my opinion, moved one step forward.�

Ms. Palin�s policies may well survive, at least for this legislative session. Mr. Parnell still supports her gas pipeline plan, and even some Republican lawmakers say they are wary of lowering taxes on oil companies without assurances that it will lead to more production.

Strikingly, some of the lawmakers most dedicated to preserving Ms. Palin�s signature achievements come from a constituency she rarely courts nationally but one that was crucial to her in Alaska: Democrats.

�She hasn�t said boo to help us protect this thing since it�s come under assault,� said State Representative Les Gara, a Democrat from Anchorage, referring to the oil taxes Governor Parnell wants to alter.

That is not to say that lawmakers are clamoring for her return. Elected by a wide margin in 2006, Ms. Palin was wildly popular among voters and held sway in the Legislature. By the time she abruptly resigned, in July 2009, her approval rating among voters was in decline and both Democratic and Republican legislators accused her of being detached and imperious.

Ms. Palin was never fond of Juneau, the capital � her husband once encouraged the House speaker to pursue moving the seat of government closer to Anchorage � and it feels as if she has been long gone, preserved in an official photograph and in what remains of her legislation.

Mr. Parnell replaced most of her closest aides, including many of her advisers on oil and gas issues. He said that he had not consulted with Ms. Palin about his plan to revise oil taxes. �We need to be nimble with changing times and history,� he said.

Compared with many states, Alaska is in fine shape in the short run. It is sitting on a $12 billion revenue surplus, a sum driven directly by the high price of oil. Taxes on oil production provide nearly 90 percent of state revenue. Some of the surplus comes from the increased tax on oil production, tied to the price of oil, that Ms. Palin supported in 2007. But not everyone is willing to give her credit for helping to create a nest egg for Alaska.

�We�re probably the most fiscally sound state in the union,� said Bert Stedman, a Republican who is co-chairman of the Senate Finance Committee and one of the Legislature�s most influential members. �I�d say she had little to nothing to do with it.�

Even Ms. Palin, who did not respond to a request for comment, does not boast these days about raising taxes on oil companies.

�It�s this fundamental achievement that�s at odds with the political persona to which it�s attached,� said State Senator Hollis French, a Democrat who worked with Ms. Palin on oil and gas issues.

Democrats say that the oil tax increase was their idea to begin with, and that Ms. Palin rallied to their cause amid a wave of populism after a scandal linking lawmakers to the oil industry. (At least two guilty verdicts in a federal investigation have since been thrown out based on questions over prosecutorial misconduct.)

Mr. Stedman, meanwhile, said the state was in good shape in part because lawmakers in both parties � armed with the surplus � pushed through major spending projects that have limited the recession�s impact.

Still others, like Governor Parnell, say that while high oil taxes have lifted revenues, they are causing oil companies to hesitate before investing in new wells on the North Slope, where production has been declining steadily since 1988.

Mr. Parnell noted that Alaska, which ranks second in domestic oil production, after Texas, is projected to fall to fourth within a decade. �We�ve got jobs leaving Alaska going to North Dakota,� he said.

The proposed natural gas pipeline is supposed to help the state shift from relying on oil to relying on a different, cleaner fuel, which the state has in abundance. That was at the center of Ms. Palin�s campaign when she ran for governor in 2006; her slogan was �New Energy for Alaska.� Two years later, in September 2008, when she spoke as a vice-presidential candidate at the Republican National Convention, she made the project sound as if it was under construction.

�We began a nearly $40 billion natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence,� she said at the convention.

Yet the pipeline was only in the planning stages. The Legislature, prodded by Ms. Palin, had just agreed to provide $500 million to a Canadian company to secure gas suppliers and apply for federal permits. Now, two and a half years later, the state is scheduled to reimburse the company, TransCanada, $185 million in the current fiscal year and $160 million in the next.

Some lawmakers are frustrated. TransCanada missed a self-imposed deadline for securing agreements with companies to ship gas from the North Slope. In December, the United States Energy Information Administration projected that the pipeline would still not be in service by as late as 2035.

�There�s frustration because a lot of people thought in �07 and �08, if we do this we�ll get it,� Larry Persily, the federal coordinator for the Alaska Pipeline Project, said of Ms. Palin�s plan.

Mr. Persily, who once worked for Governor Palin, was named to his position by President Obama. He said the pipeline could still become reality, particularly if the nation moved away from coal and the demand for gas rose � and if the state modified Ms. Palin�s plan to assure gas providers of a predictable tax structure.

�Certainly it helped, but it was oversold as the global solution,� he said of Ms. Palin�s plan. �Not that Palin was the first politician to oversell something � she just did a good job of it.�


I have offered to place money that Perky would not run and if she did run would not be nominated and if by complete fluke she was nominated she would be defeated in a landslide of tsunamic proportions.

The only person brave enough (or stupid enough) to take a piece of that action was Bows. Anyone else?
well let's see how many possible candidates for GOP are there or could be?


pretty good odds you made for yourself


i'm hopin she doesn't run, but if as you say by some fluke she'd capture the nomination

I'm willing to bet you a princely sum she doesn't end up as the lowest draw on the popular vote,ever, IOW's there'll be candidates that lost worse.

I'd have to do some research to see if I'd make the same bet on the electoral college. but most likely so.


but since in the heat of the battle of your denigration of Palin you got Bows to take the hook


are you a sportin man or just a sleazebag opportunist?

I'll make you twice the bet you have with Bows that Obama is the Dem candidate.


so do you feel lucky punk? (grin)

Hey, Spanky.

If it becomes Palin vs. Obama, how would you vote?

Would you vote your bet?
Originally Posted by ironbender
Hey, Spanky.

If it becomes Palin vs. Obama, how would you vote?

Would you vote your bet?


I would gladly vote for her and win my bet.

2Legit said:

are you a sportin man or just a sleazebag opportunist?

I'll make you twice the bet you have with Bows that Obama is the Dem candidate.


so do you feel lucky punk? (grin)

I may be a sleazebag opportunist but I not as dumb as Bows. Barring exiguous circumstances BHO will be the next Dem. nominee and probably win.
Hey BrownDog aka AK_ Chessie aka c_u_n_t.

Our admiration for a strong conservative women really sends you into apoplectic fits.LOL.

Like the old piece of schit that everyone on this board believes you to be,your pathetic attempt at impugning us by the use of the phrase panty sniffing is emblematic of a left wing politico.

You changed your user name and didn't post for a long time because you were embarrassed that you got your ass kicked for being a left wing moron.LOL.

Attempting to rationalize the reason why Sarah Palin birthed a child with a handicap always escapes the mind of a demented individual such as yourself.You and the ilk that you represent cannot fathom that a Christian women embraces all life as God sees fit.Sarahs unwillingness to murder her child cannot possibly be understood by a cretin,such as yourself.

You should be out "living life" because you are such an old fart you don't have much time left on this earth.LOL.

I would also bet that your wife is an old fat-ass pig similar to your messiahs wife and your jealousy of Sarah Palin is truly pathological.

I see that most of your posts are in the classified ads with the rare exception that you take to denigrate Republicans and especially Sarah Palin.

Posting an article from the NY Times only illustrates your left wing moronic incompetence.

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rte---That kind of vitriol is entirely uncalled for and in an earlier day would have gotten you a challenge which probably would have ended your miserable life.

You owe those you addressed an apology or they owe you an industrial strength ass whipping.
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

rte---That kind of vitriol is entirely uncalled for and in an earlier day would have gotten you a challenge which probably would have ended your miserable life.

You owe those you addressed an apology or they owe you an industrial strength ass whipping.


Go [bleep] yourself spinach man.You have proved to be nothing more that a closet liberal and I have nothing but disdain and contempt for people such as yourself.

Your profanity and lack of common courtesy confirms my previous post. You are nothing but a blackguard of minimal education occasioned by your lack of intelligence.

I suggest you take your foul mouth and small brain to the nether regions from whence they sprang.
rte----I don't usually agree with spanky but he is 100% correct. You may not like the man (browndog) or his politics but bringing his wife into it and making derogatory remarks about his family is not cool.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights
rte----I don't usually agree with spanky but he is 100% correct. You may not like the man (browndog) or his politics but bringing his wife into it and making derogatory remarks about his family is not cool.



I don't like anything about this deceitful pig.

I don't like the fact that he refers to members who admire Sarah Palin as "panty sniffers"


He chose to bring discourse to a low level.I chose to take it in another direction.

Apparently there are some hidden rules about who we may talk about.

BrowDog chose to denigrate Mrs.Palin and I chose to talk about his wife.I see no difference.To denigrate one human being is the same as another.


No disrespect to you AceseNeights,and I do respect your opinion, but BrownDog and spinach man can kiss my ass.
I hear ya' rte...I get riled up at times too (I also ain't a fan of either BD or Spanky) but right is right. Sarah Palin is a national figure....a mans wife or kids are not. My .02C


rte---Mrs. Palin, like President Obama, is a public figure and as such have no expectation of privacy. You can say just about anything about them. A private citizen is entirely different and the fact that you do not understand this is further proof of your almost complete lack of intelligence.

You are a jerk of the first water.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I hear ya' rte...I get riled up at times too (I also ain't a fan of either BD or Spanky) but right is right. Sarah Palin is a national figure....a mans wife or kids are not. My .02C



OK,so what you're saying is that it's discouraged to talk about a members family.

I'll make it a point to be cognizant of that in my future posts.

Thank you.


PS: What if I said that BrownDog's boyfriend has a fat ass.Since they're not married and aren't family,would that be alright? LOL.



Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

rte---Mrs. Palin, like President Obama, is a public figure and as such have no expectation of privacy. You can say just about anything about them. A private citizen is entirely different and the fact that you do not understand this is further proof of your almost complete lack of intelligence.

You are a jerk of the first water.




I'm so hurt by your searing rhetoric.

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Originally Posted by rte

PS: What if I said that BrownDog's boyfriend has a fat ass.Since they're not married and aren't family,would that be alright? LOL.


I don't see how telling the truth could get a fella' in trouble. blush whistle

All ya'all mommas! laugh
rte: no need to be politically correct with libturds. They whine big time when it suits them, i.e. Arizona shooting; but then come with all vitriol and guns blazing in Wisconsin. Funny not one MSM outlet called them on all of that. Chelsea Clinton and Obama's kids were/are off limits but the left has crucified Sarah's entire family, including a Down Syndrome baby. How pathetic. Whine away libturds. It is a free fire zone for those of us tired of the one way street the libturds would have us take. We need a lot more Allen West types who stand up to those braying jackasses.
Governor Palin gave a great speech in India today with many good quotes.

To be expected, when you speak on the World Stage, you damn well use all your best resources, your best writers.

Not to be expected is for the LSM to get it right when it comes to quoting Sarah.

The Wall Street Journal and the LA Times:
�Free people that make up a free country don�t wage war on another country.�

What Sarah said:
Free people that make up a free country don�t wage war on another FREE country.�

One little word left out changes smart to stupid.

Of more interest to me, was the question and answer session that followed.

No speech writers, no teleprompters, and time to finish an answer without interruption.

Time to offer quick answers and key points, but little detail, on the Palin Doctrine:

Free trade, even at the cost of American jobs: �Yes� she said, but added how that will increase American jobs it the long run. �Free trade is a hallmark of one who would believe in the free-market entrepreneurial system,� Gov. Palin said.

Libya: �We can support the no-fly zone� Sarah said and added that if she were in charge;
�There would have been less dithering, more decisiveness� in my approach to Libya.

China: Sarah ain�t buying China�s defensive military build-up: �The United States needs to be vigilant as to what China is doing.�

Pakistan and India: Gov. Palin said, �we will not put up with innocent people being harmed by terrorists.�

Economic sanctions: Sarah quoted Reagan: �Peace through Strength.�

Military and national defense: Gov. Palin said it would be her first priority, but without all the waste and fraud in the Defense budget..

Mainstream media: Gov. Palin said �you need boldness to set the record straight. You can�t necessarily trust the mainstream media to accurately report on your record, accomplishments, and values.�

2012: �It�s not impossible for a woman to become the President of the U.S. In fact, I think it�s time ��

Todd Palin: Sarah said; �well Todd�s buddies call him all sorts of things, but he would be First Gentleman.�

My thanks to the �wannabe Sara Palin panty-sniffers� who have provided the updates and have the whole speech on their websites.

Platitudes, cliches, simplicities, naught of substance the blowby of underpaid speech writers. She could and should do better.

I'm hoping I lose my bet with the Bows so I can see the mincemeat that will be made of her in the first of her few debates with real opposition.

You go girl, for Arizona Senator.
�as if all short answers don�t sound that way�
Be careful what you ask for�lots more to come on the Palin Doctrine�

The world awaits Perky's prognostications..........
Originally Posted by rte
Hey BrownDog aka AK_ Chessie aka c_u_n_t.

Our admiration for a strong conservative women really sends you into apoplectic fits.LOL.

Like the old piece of schit that everyone on this board believes you to be,your pathetic attempt at impugning us by the use of the phrase panty sniffing is emblematic of a left wing politico.

You changed your user name and didn't post for a long time because you were embarrassed that you got your ass kicked for being a left wing moron.LOL.

Attempting to rationalize the reason why Sarah Palin birthed a child with a handicap always escapes the mind of a demented individual such as yourself.You and the ilk that you represent cannot fathom that a Christian women embraces all life as God sees fit.Sarahs unwillingness to murder her child cannot possibly be understood by a cretin,such as yourself.

You should be out "living life" because you are such an old fart you don't have much time left on this earth.LOL.

I would also bet that your wife is an old fat-ass pig similar to your messiahs wife and your jealousy of Sarah Palin is truly pathological.

I see that most of your posts are in the classified ads with the rare exception that you take to denigrate Republicans and especially Sarah Palin.

Posting an article from the NY Times only illustrates your left wing moronic incompetence.

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My goodness there junior, you sure get your panties in a big knot when someone presents you with facts that don't comport with your fantasies.

I'm not gonna waste time on your brainless rants.

But I'll tell you what, tough guy, why don't you PM me or post the information I'll need to get you an airplane ticket and I'll buy you a ticket to Alaska so you can try ranting to me face to face?

Got a pair junior? Or are you all ignorant bluster? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Crawl back in your hole and spend your time fondling yourself and fantasizing about "strong conservative women".

Or do you fantasize about being a "strong conservative woman". Either way enjoy your fantasies. It's all you'll ever have.

Sorry I can't stay and play with you more junior. I'm headed to the gym, then out skiing, then flying to Alaska's capital to testify tomorrow in a legislative hearing. It's 15 above with beautiful sunshine and perfect spring weather here. Better to be out living life.

Oh, I forgot those are things you can't understand. Bye, bye little man, or, uh little girl.
Originally Posted by BrownDogSchit

My goodness there junior, you sure get your panties in a big knot when someone presents you with facts that don't comport with your fantasies.

I'm not gonna waste time on your brainless rants.

But I'll tell you what, tough guy, why don't you PM me or post the information I'll need to get you an airplane ticket and I'll buy you a ticket to Alaska so you can try ranting to me face to face?

Got a pair junior? Or are you all ignorant bluster? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Crawl back in your hole and spend your time fondling yourself and fantasizing about "strong conservative women".

Or do you fantasize about being a "strong conservative woman". Either way enjoy your fantasies. It's all you'll ever have.

Sorry I can't stay and play with you more junior. I'm headed to the gym, then out skiing, then flying to Alaska's capital to testify tomorrow in a legislative hearing. It's 15 above with beautiful sunshine and perfect spring weather here. Better to be out living life.

Oh, I forgot those are things you can't understand. Bye, bye little man, or, uh little girl.


HA,HA,HA and BrownDogSchit posts a threat on the internet.And then offers to buy a plane ticket for my travel.LOL.

You're such and old fart that just seeing me step into the ring with your old ass would be enough to give yourself a myocardial infarction,but not before you pee your panties.LOL.

I haven't seen any facts yet,just your liberal panty waist whining.LOL.

You're headed to the gym.LOL. To do what,take a class for the Old Farts?LOL.

Liberals never miss an opportunity to try and impress members with their own self importance.It seems as though that mantra ties in with the Ballerina's belief that a crisis should never go to waste.You and the Ballerina a perfect pair.

So now you want to play with me.How did I know that you were a screaming queer.Oops now you've outed yourself again.First as a failed politico,35 years no less.Now you've outed yourself as a queen.LOL.

Liberal asswipes such as yourself took a beating this past midterm election cycle.LOL.Your pathetic party lost 63 seats in the house,7 seats in the senate,11 governorships and best of all,almost 700 seats in state legislatures all across our great land.

So keep ranting old man.The time has come to scrape the BrownDogSchit from the soles of the political landscape of our nation.

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Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

2Legit said:

are you a sportin man or just a sleazebag opportunist?

I'll make you twice the bet you have with Bows that Obama is the Dem candidate.


so do you feel lucky punk? (grin)

I may be a sleazebag opportunist but I not as dumb as Bows. Barring exiguous circumstances BHO will be the next Dem. nominee and probably win.



I may be dumb but at least I didn�t come up with the pipedream of Sarah moving to Arizona and running for the Senate!

Right now the Governor is going everyplace but Arizona.

As far as Obama not running again�to borrow one of your pronouncements�

Remember, you heard it here first.

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But I'll tell you what, tough guy, why don't you PM me or post the information I'll need to get you an airplane ticket and I'll buy you a ticket to Alaska so you can try ranting to me face to face?

Got a pair junior? Or are you all ignorant bluster? Yeah, that's what I thought. [/quote]


I'm your huckleberry

and hell i'm local

gotta little rehab process goin on, so you'll have to exercise a bit of patience please

but am thinkin a pre hunt season tune up would be just the ticket!


it's the least we can do for our country, what with the price of gas & jet fuel

i probably deserve a good azz whuppin & i'd say ur just the cowboy to deliver it
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

2Legit said:

are you a sportin man or just a sleazebag opportunist?

I'll make you twice the bet you have with Bows that Obama is the Dem candidate.


so do you feel lucky punk? (grin)

I may be a sleazebag opportunist but I not as dumb as Bows. Barring exiguous circumstances BHO will be the next Dem. nominee and probably win.



I may be dumb but at least I didn�t come up with the pipedream of Sarah moving to Arizona and running for the Senate!

Right now the Governor is going everyplace but Arizona.

As far as Obama not running again�to borrow one of your pronouncements�

Remember, you heard it here first.


Are you saying BHO will not run? If so maybe we could work up a small wager?

As to Perky running for Az. Senator it is a surmise based on the situation on the ground at present. If it gains the status of pronouncement I will let you know.

Bows, If I were you I'd distance myself from rte. That nut has just barely enough sense to find his way to the closest dumpster and back to his home under the freeway.
I remember when this was a more kinder and gentler place. My, my some of are a bit testy now days.
Are you saying BHO will not run? If so maybe we could work up a small wager?


I only bet on sure things.
To many folks on this thread listing to Melana Scantlin.
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit


I'm your huckleberry

and hell i'm local

There it is.
I'd rather Sarah stay here in AK and kick Mark's marxist butt out of the senate.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Are you saying BHO will not run? If so maybe we could work up a small wager?


I only bet on sure things.


So, is that a sure thing?
No, not yet.

I lost money on LB Johnson and his second term.

That is why my only bet so far is on Palin.


I thought you only bet on sure things.
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