The youth of america "the Millenniums" have no clue and want to drag this country down a socialist rat hole.
Are they really that ignorant and blind to think that socialism and Bernie Sanders is the way?
Who do we blame for this? The parents for all of the entitlement they raised them with?
The next generation needs to wake up and fast or this nation as we know it is lost forever

I like the way you think.

Most of the Millenniums don't know what Communism or Socialism is, they vote for Sanders because of his stance on Pot.

Thank your local school teachers, and the Baby Boomers that embraced socialism during the 60s and then turned into the school teachers and college professors of today's public school teachers.

Do enough of us even vote?

They always have. I voted for Ross Perot in 1992. It's thefuckingidiots that never grow out it that are the problem.

The older people in this country have sat around on their asses and let the rich get such a grip on things that there is no opportunity for anybody but those in the top 10% and only then at the behest of the top 1%. We've gotten more and more restrictive laws that are enforced less and less uniformly with a lot more surveilance. We've let the debt get completely out of hand under both Dubya and Zero. That is what makes the ground fertile for a guy like Sanders.

What do you expect from a society that now promotes "participation trophies" for everyone and no winners or losers?

The parents are co-signers for those moronic student loans. Those parents will support Bernie as much as the socialist students.

I work with Millenniums every day. Most have never been given even a cursory explanation of economics. They are not stupid, simply ignorant, by design of their upbringing.

They also have an inherent trust of govt for the most part, which has been fostered by the media they have been fed.

They are smart enough for the lightbulb to go on when someone explains a few things.

I'd don't know if I buy that
I believe if you are smart,motivated and work hard this is still the land of opportunity
Problem is the Millenniums want to circumvent those steps and have it given to them and get it for nothing

Once again, you have posted the unvarnished truth. I am optimistic and am hopeful we can recover before it's too late.

There is a 40 something Democrat that sits behind me at work. I asked him point blank why Clinton was not in Jail, His response she wants to release 22 emails but the govt won't let her. On the question of a 19 trillion debt, his comment was we really don't owe that money to anyone we can just print out more if needed.


I kid you not , this is what is being taught in our schools, his wife is a public school teacher and has the same views.

We will be Brazil,Venezuela in a few short years.

Yes, just watch Watter's World and note the complete idiots' answers.. Parents, Democrats and especially public schools..

The current school/social structure is raising a generation of idiots. Unthinking compliant and easily duped idiots.


For every one student that I had in class that was squared away and had their act together to become a well informed productive citizen I had at least 50 that were nothing but brain dead automatons well on their way to being lockstep Democratic Socialist voting Lemmings.

It is the people that are coming from nothing, mostly oppressed countries who will be the anti-millenial.

I hadn't thought of that but you may well be on to something.

Low info voters, and blind party loyalty. They don't know what they're voting for. That's how we got the last 8 yrs.

We can blame public school teachers who inculcate socialist ideology and parents who are clueless.

The voting age needs to be raised to 31 in this country...The free loading Young people of our country are not Mature enough at the age of 21 to vote...They want to live with Mommy and Daddy until they are 30 and party.


When I turned 18...I could not get moved out fast enough.

Not totally accurate..teachers are required to use curriculum's accepted by school boards whether they agree or not... considerable blame should include give a chit complacent parents who won't make waves for their primary baby sitting services.

What the fugk is a millennium?


I can tell you that as a millennial, I'm sick and fuggin tired of getting blamed for every bad election in this country. And for the record, I blame the baby boomers. Their generation was the start of this whole schit storm and somehow all of the "good people" like yourself allowed the ex-hippies to get control of many key institutions and also trash the economy to boot.

The position we are in now was a long time coming. It didn't happen over night. Old fuggers like yourself don't want to admit that schit slipped away while they were in charge. It's much easier to blame the young folk who have been voting for the least amount of time.

Hmmm struck a nerve

He ain't wrong, Dan.

lmao Only in America would folks blame a group of individuals who have never had any say in anything and probably won't for another good twenty years, for the way the country is going.

Good post.

they don't think. that's the problem!

ked

I don't see "baby boomer" lining up in Bernie's camp
BTW I'm neither I'm a Gen X

Also never blamed them for current state of affairs just what's coming down the pipe

They shouldn't be allowed to vote until they've been in the workplace for a couple years...seen how much is taken out in taxes, and how it is wasted on those not willing to work.
Until then, they are still idealistic and believe in the "good" in people....both politicians and dirtbags.....


wait a minute...that sounds redundant....

The Boomers are the ones that have been the college professors and school teachers for generations that have inculcated and instilled the socialist values, day-in and day-out, to the Gen X, Gen Y, and Millennials. It's what's taught, and by whom, that is the issue, and the root of that always goes right back to the Boomers and the 1960s.

I work with them every day, too, and this is how I view it, as well.. with a strong dose of entitlement on the side.

Hippies and flower children

OSU_Sig just put this up on another thread, and it's pertinent here as well.

Good read nailed it

We blame US, if we're honest. We've known for decades the marxist creep that's pervaded our schools, now down to elementary levels, and particularly our colleges. We've seen CNN and MSNBC and all the alpha commie news organizations spew their lies and hate of all things conservative and have done nothing but gripe maybe. We're at a point now where it's gonna take some heavy lifting to turn things around, but it can be done. Not without total commitment and real work.Trouble is, most have been successful are comfortable and just want to drift down the river of life now. Old and complacent. Will it happen? I doubt it.

yea I can't blame the millineals for this

The boomers , just due to their size, are like a damn locust that just consumes everything

The Millineals see a pretty bleak future - no jobs, expensive housing, expensive education, expensive health care, and a group of retirees that demand government spend money on them and pass the cost onto the next generation. Even a planet that may not sustain them.

I can see why a Bernie Sanders appeals to them.

Brain washed in the university's. The youth vote that broke for Bernie Sanders exit polling showed 24% wanted a continuation of Obama's policy's and 34% wanted more liberal policy's. Like you.. we all should be concerned with this "Facebook" generation.

Doc

They want their education free and are too stupid to realize they will pay the rest of their lives for it in higher taxes

Millenials, Boomers, Gen X, no consensus on which generation.

I can nail it down for all of you, it's the f^cking YANKEES and LEFT COASTERS, regardless of generation.

My apologies as this was supposed to be in this thread but somehow it didn't make it.

No he's not wrong. Lotta truth in his statement

I've lived the American Dream thanks to those that came before me

The only thing that keeps my life from being letter perfect is the survey of what type of opportunity my children & grandchildren will inherit

I'm a boomer & often reflect if I along with many of my peers made a huge mistake chasing that dream rather than chasing politicians and worthless pukes like paddler & Nwa with a buggy whip

Better men than we risked everything to form this unique experiment in human gov't and better men died to protect this way of life in the great world wars

We've made a grievous error imo letting the bureaucrats & a vast majority of the public servants run things

What funds things are private enterprise. Period

But what runs things are bureaucrats

Taxation without representation. That's where we're at currently for the millennials they'll be paying taxes to pay the interest on every fing gov't boondoggle from LBJ on to the present
Including gwb's unPatriotic act

Whoever the GOP nominee is, they need to directly address the word socialism - even if it's not BS running for the Dems. I hope they don't just say socialism is bad, without explaining why. People who have been brainwashed need to hear the other side of the story.

Socialism sounds very nice and humane - take it from the rich, give it to the poor, free stuff for everyone!

In reality, it takes resources away from people who earned them, and who are good at efficiently using them. It does nothing for the self respect of the poor, and kills their initiative to better their own lives. Russia and China tried socialism for decades. They had hundreds of millions of talented people, and they had totalitarian governments that could coerce human behavior. It didn't work. Their national spirits corroded, people went hungry, and great violence and misery resulted. But the people doing the redistribution of wealth wound up doing okay, always keeping a piece of the action for themselves. At its worst, socialism becomes an easy path to tyranny; don't forget that the Nazi party began as the National Socialist party. Don't let people be seduced by socialism.

That indeed is an excellent article OSU

Thanks for linking it 4ager

The leftist indoctrination in the public scrool system has been successful.

The Gen X'rs were/are really no better.

They have no work ethic, discipline or ambition. They want instant results with no effort. They have absolutely no clue on what it's like or how to build anything worthwhile.

Our best be is to divide the country and salvage what we can as far as freedom goes and let the socialists implode in their utopia. They can have the east coast since they already FUBARed it.

So how do we turn the tide and educate the uneducated?
I think this comes from parents actually caring and being parents.Far too many leave the educating to others
Children are raising themselves without proper guidance
Blink and it's too late

How do you stop Yankees from being Yankees? Californians from being Californian?

Let's face it, some kids are raised right,some not, and others rebel. Many start Left and recover.

If you want to know where this all started, you will need to go back before even the Greatest Generation. Go back to the late 19th Century to Europe where the class system make upward economic mobility impossible. The working class lived in urban hovels, and the cities were populated by the 2nd, 3rd, 4th sons of farmers who were not to inherit land due to primogeniture. They came to cities and left for America.

The Marxist movement capitalized (pun intended) on the workers misery and the Communist Party rose and became linked forever to the Unions. Wealth redistribution became the goal. The Russian Revolution redistributed the wealth in the hands of upper Party members — as it ALWAYS does, and the USSSR was keen to spread Communism far and wide.

The Great Depression brought massive unemployment and the welfare safety net. The post WWII era really did see an upswing in Communist activity in Hollywood and on University Campus. The GI Bill sent millions to college that otherwise never would have gone. The Leftist found young minds of mush to corrupt.

The 1960s brought birth control pills, drugs, and the Vietnam War. All were things that college students felt their parents couldn't understand. Anti war protests organized by the communists and anarchists (see Bill Ayers, Obama's buddy) disrupted society, and did the Civil Rights Movement.

These anti war/anti America people went into politics (See John Kerry, See Tom Hayden et. al.). They went into teaching. They inspired the next wave to rebel against the establishment just like they did in the '60's. They railed against the achievers and producers, since most of them at best were teachers or professors seeking tenure and a cushy job with days filled surround by their intellectual inferiors (students).

The Civil Rights Movement started to loose its luster due to the behavior of the urban rats, so the LGBT movement became the next cause for unfairness.

Let us not forget LBJ's Great Society that created an incentive NOT to work and be productive, or the environmental movement that has become another home for communists attempting to destroy capitalism and achievement.

With the fall of the Soviet Union, and China opening to trade, communism is no longer the in your face threat it once was to many.

Do you want me to go on?

If you are a Millennial, then you can see your contemporaries flocking to Bernie, believing that the gov't has an endless supply of money, that the World needs to forced to be more "fair", and that Conservatives are "mean". You can do us a favor and slap so sense into the for us.

I've raised one conservative, and am in the process of raising another. Make sure you do the same!

Yep. It starts at home.

However, it goes beyond that. We, that care, have to get involved in local politics; school boards (God, what a thankless job), boards of supervisors or selectmen. Get involved in state politics; if not running for state office to represent your area, then be active in supporting the ones that back YOUR points of view.

Be involved in your kids' life, and their education, and hold them - and their schools - accountable.

Then, try to get others to do the same.

The nation didn't end up in the schitter overnight, and it's going to take FAR longer to correct the problems than it did to create them.

Sir, you are absolutely right! The young people have minds full of MUSH! It is soooo sad to see many openly accept socialism. Our nation will not survive another 4 to 8 years of this cancer.

In one poll 55% of the democratic voters want the next democratic nominee to have policies just like Obama! Wow, these people are so blind and ignorant!

I've got few problems with people who handle their own business. Most work for a living, actually producing some service or good that people need. Just handle your business and don't expect me and mine to take care of it for you. Don't make your problem my problem and don't try to make somebody else's problem my problem. This is not to say that charity and lending a helping hand do not have a place, this is more about people who choose not to do what they can/should and expect others to tote the load. That's BS......

Your broad brush you paint with isn't completely accurate.Many of these young Sanders supporters are from Red states,the midwest,south etc.
A novel idea would be to get rid of the electoral college and go to a popular vote
But this doesn't change the fact that young voters identify with a socialist

Unfortunately you may have been denied an education based on Fact and Reality. Before you blame us "Old Farts" for the economy you may want to spend some time researching the Cloward Piven Strategy.

It is almost complete and if Sanders gets in there my Grandchildren are definitely Fugged because it will never work.

Minor correction....


The liberal/Progressives (socialists/communists) were already vested in the universities when the Baby Boomers arrived . They were there when we showed up in the 60's. Where they came from I have no idea.

It certainly did not start with us but undoubtedly gained momentum as there were a LOT of Baby Boomers, easily corrupted.Voila...we have Hillary and Sanders who came from that genre.

Th author in OSU's article is spot on. Socialism has been an historic failure. Too bad the dopes who voted Obama into office simply don't get it.

They can't connect dots.

If you get rid of the EC, then you make the problem even worse. At that point, only states like the PRK, TX, FL, PA, NY, NJ, and MI count, and ONLY the votes from the major metro areas count. Take a look at Washington State, for example, to see what happens when it comes down to only a popular vote vs an EC system. Or, NYS for that matter.

That's how I've tried to live my life and how I've tried to raise my kids.

Got $100 says that Blue Yankee states will be Blue and Red states will be Red, regardless.

It's disheartening that an avowed socialist is a viable candidate for president of the United States. Socialism is a dead end. For hundreds of years, it has failed everywhere it's been adopted. The enthusiasm of our youth for the candidacy of Bernie Sanders is a symptom of our failure to educate them, not only in history, government and economics, but also basic morality.
(Story continued below...)

You don't have to be a student of ancient history to know socialism doesn't work. The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989 was an unequivocal demonstration of the moral and economic superiority of capitalism. The misery caused by socialism is unfolding today in Venezuela. Since Venezuela embraced socialism in 1999, poverty, crime and corruption have all increased. Grocery shelves are empty and the annual inflation rate is estimated to be as high as 200 percent.

The United States is a constitutional republic founded on political equality, not equality of income or circumstances. Our system of government was designed to secure the natural rights of its citizens. These rights include not only “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” but the right to acquire and maintain private property. The Founding Fathers considered property rights to be sacred and
paramount.

Under capitalism, goods and services are distributed through private, voluntary exchanges. When people engage in volitional transactions, everyone benefits. If we believe a transaction is in our best interest, we have an incentive to maintain good relations with those with whom we're trading. Thus a society based on freedom and trading promotes good will and civility. Our free-market system has produced the greatest prosperity in human history.

There are no property rights under socialism. Goods and services are distributed by force through political means. Everything you possess is subject to confiscation and redistribution. Industrious and productive people are punished; parasites are rewarded. When people come to believe they have a right to goods and services produced by other people, society disintegrates into squabbling factions. If socialism is allowed to progress to its logical extreme, it culminates in a military dictatorship like North Korea.

What about so-called “crony capitalism”? This is nothing more than socialism that benefits the wealthy and influential. It's just as wrong as any other form of socialism. The cure is to limit government power. Human nature is corruptible. If government has the power to redistribute wealth, it will always act in the interests of the powerful segments of society. What made America great is not progressive government, but the genius and industry of a people freed from arbitrary power by the chains placed upon government by our Constitution.
(Story continued below...)

Socialism isn't so much a legitimate economic system as it is a moral failing. It will always exist because ignorant people will always want something for nothing. If we want to retain our freedom and prosperity, then we must educate our children that the purpose of government is to secure liberty, not provide free lunches.

Deming ([email protected]) is a professor of arts and sciences at the University of Oklahoma.

Very good Historical Summary...Thank you.

Yep and that is what being a real "good parent" is!

none of that was an accident, or occured by happenstance. Communists had a long range plan. Back right after the Russian Revolution, they began to infiltrate politics, colleges, unions and newspapers. Keeping mostly in the back ground at first, they burrowed into government at all levels.
The Red Scare of McCarthy had a lot of basis in fact.
After a generation or two, those that think communism is the answer have about taken over education, foreign policy, entertainment and news.
If you have not already boned up on Saul Alinsky,s "12 Rules for Radicals", you are behind the curve.

Many or most of them have drank the marxist koolaide too. It's been around for a long time. Unless the demoncrap party is destroyed there is no hope. They don't even believe their crap, they just want power and the graft that comes with it.

That is correct, lootenant.

Also, one needs to keep in mind that Sanders wouldn't be a blip on the radar if he wasn't being promoted by communist elements in the MSM.

All this is true, but even those who claim true conservatism push for a total unknown quantity in Trump, a man who has never voted conservative in his life. There are real conservatives to chose from and they want to bet the farm on bluster. I see this as nothing but insanity that gives me little hope for a future for my kids or the country.

Capitalism is a great system until it gets in bed with big, corrupt government.

Once that happens the deck is stacked and all the money starts flowing to the top.

That's what's happened to America

The next thing to happen after capitalism becomes corrupt, is socialism.

Risible. They are not coming here to 'work', but to get free chit, and to be able to spread their religion and culture. They have zero investment in, or respect for, the values that made America what it used to be.

Yes.

Parents and using social media as nannies.

Yep

Which is why there are folks willing to go out on a limb and back Trump.

What did you expect the product of Boomers to look like?




Travis

Good explanation.

kwg

Thanks.

I have news for you younger guys:

Nothing was ever as good as you think it was.

Nothing is ever going to be as bad as you think it's gonna be.

No, no, it won't. They came here for their free chit and will vote accordingly. Which is why they were brought here to start with.

You sound like whin-y fuggin millennial who can't accept blame.

Pretty much..

The creation of Federal agencies and tax policy just after the turn of the last century brought socialism to the US and countless "emergencies" at local, state and national level.

Whether it was social security or keeping New Orleans from flooding, politicians had even greater access to spending other peoples money.
The same ills of a hundred years ago are still here and even worse since socialism ( waste, fraud and laundering) has pissed away wealth that isnt fiat.

Millenials werent around....

In fact they are just doing as they learned; kick the can down the road and let someone else worry about it. Nothing has broken yet....

The government has been pro-socialism for quite some time.

I really love the "damn yankee" comments and 10 foot wide paint brush.

Newsflash: I grew up a damn yankee and have voted republican in every election - just like my parents, grand parents, and great grand parents. I was in my 20's when my great grand parents on both sides died. I spent much time with them and learned about various presidents from Teddy through Tricky Dick and the prevailing social issues of the day. Suffice to say, the only difference between small town "yankees" and small town southerners is the latitude. I'd guess most of the 'damn yankee' paint brushers have never spent 5 minutes in small town yankee land. Other than the dialect its same:same..........

I'm also born the first year of Gen X or the last year of the baby boomers depending on which chart you believe. This problem started before Gen X but has been exasperated by the late 20th century and me-ism. I only look out for me. The family and church went downhill and 'me' became the new standard. We are reaping what we've sown as a society. It isn't all one generation or group of people; its gradual decline of society, lack of respect, and me-ism all rolled into one. We need to fix society first.

Wrong! We keep voting for people whom we believe. Remember the TEA party vote? When they got to DC they blended right in; except Cruz and a very few others.

A lot of truth to this response.

Does anyone remember George McGovern now you know how your Dad felt.

I remember when Sarah was running for VP a newsman interviewed several college students on camera. The guy reversed all her positions and attributed them to Obama. They loved them. Then he gave them Obama's positions but told them they were Sarah's plans. They hated them. Stupid is not correct, but close.

It ain't

The earliest a millennial could have voted was 1998. They (we) didn't make up a significant voting block until a decade later.

This country was headed down the tubes long before that.

All of my life has been spent in small town yankeeland.

Our previous mayors worked hard at leaving folks alone.

The last two (the last 15-20 years) were former union employees (socialists by trade) and their crop of suburbanites have wasted no time in making the town a land full of idiots with ideas and a tax base to leech off of, just like the union schitholes they left.....

From previous.

The Gen X'rs were/are really no better.

its the democrats 50yr plan.hope i don't live long enough to see what they try in next 50.

"If you're not liberal when you're young, you don't have a heart.

If you're not conservative when you're older, you don't have a brain.."


Who said that?

Winston Churchill?

Correct.


dvd: The thing I notice is folks are born stupid and naive. Politically, they gotta get burned a few times before they smarten up....which takes years. The education process will kill a nation, with all those dumb bastards running around voting for people like Sanders and Hillary.

It's really a constant process,and not restricted to Boomers, GenX, Milenials,etc etc. It's just there,and always will be.

Some people never out grow it. I have to admit, though,currently we have an awful lot of dumbies out there

That’s your opinion and I’m not sure whats its based on. Some of the most ignorant people I’ve ever met have been in the south. I find it very interesting when someone has issues with me because I'm from the north. They know nothing about me only that I'm from yankeeland - and by default I must be ignorant/arrogant/idiot. Thats more a statement about the person painting with the big brush than it is about me.

Conversely, some of the best people I’ve ever met have likewise been from the south. To me, the south is a dichotomy; it has a lot of people on opposite ends of the societal spectrum. People are people. Idiots are where you find them – its region independent.

I strongly suspect people who struggle with ‘damn yankees’ or ‘stupid southerners’ have issues with people in general – that’s on the person, not the area where people come from. Dickweeds are dickweeds, regardless of where they originate.

But carry on with your ‘damn yankee drivel’ – it goes to prove my point.

In my opinion, these people are the biggest problem, but any way you slice it, the republic is going down on our watch. We're the one's not stopping it.

sounds like they are a product of their environment

of course, everyone here that has Millineal kids would say its not *their* kids that are like that, and if they raised kids that had Millineals, they'll say their kids didn't teach that to Millineals.

My dad hated the Beatles, I hate rap music,

talking about how the generation below you is worthless and is going to kill this country seems to be a tired cliche.

The only difference is the Millineals will be the first generation that doesn't really have it better than the generation before them.

They may not have earned anything to date, but they were given a [bleep] hand to play with from the start.

See, you have proved MY point. Ignorant people abound, regardless of locale. Some of the most ignorant people I've met were in NYC.

The difference between a bunch of the Northern Ignorant folks, and the Southern ignorant folks is that those from the South were curious about what they didn't know, in general.

Those in the North couldn't give 2 shiets how something was in the South, because the South is backwards.

So in short, while both ignorant, the Yankees were less inclined to do anything about their ignorance, hence they are stupid.



Again, why so many get cunny hurt of the word Yankee is beyond me. If you ain't a Yankee, then WTF does it bother you? You don't get pissed when someone goes on a rant about Islam do you?


If you ain't a Yankee, then who gives a shiet. If you are a Yankee, then suck my dick.

Millennials are very open to the plurality of ideas. Many of them are very willing to hear a good explanation of economic reality and conservative values. Some will see the truth.

The Republican Party is just as complicit in all of this in the last couple of decades, as they have not used elections as educational opportunities for years now.

If conservatives cannot articulate what exactly it is that they feel is valuable enough to conserve, then of course a progressive is going to sound better to the voters. The GOPe has been pandering for so long simply trying to keep themselves in power that the voter base has never heard any articulation of conservative values, especially in economics.

For example, whether right or wrong, everyone knew that Reagan held to "trickle-down economics." I think Bernie is literally the only candidate in this entire cycle that folks actually can identify his economic perspective (socialism). "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

Possibly you could pull up one of my posts in 13+ years I’ve been here that proves your point?

I think I’ll just use your last one……………

You've just nailed the biggest thing I hear them bitching about all the time.

They'be been doing it. They want to conserve the Constitution. It's just after we elect them the go to DC and catch the Big Government bug.