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Originally Posted by hatari
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What the fugk is a millennium?



Let's face it, some kids are raised right,some not, and others rebel. Many start Left and recover.

If you want to know where this all started, you will need to go back before even the Greatest Generation. Go back to the late 19th Century to Europe where the class system make upward economic mobility impossible. The working class lived in urban hovels, and the cities were populated by the 2nd, 3rd, 4th sons of farmers who were not to inherit land due to primogeniture. They came to cities and left for America.

The Marxist movement capitalized (pun intended) on the workers misery and the Communist Party rose and became linked forever to the Unions. Wealth redistribution became the goal. The Russian Revolution redistributed the wealth in the hands of upper Party members — as it ALWAYS does, and the USSSR was keen to spread Communism far and wide.

The Great Depression brought massive unemployment and the welfare safety net. The post WWII era really did see an upswing in Communist activity in Hollywood and on University Campus. The GI Bill sent millions to college that otherwise never would have gone. The Leftist found young minds of mush to corrupt.

The 1960s brought birth control pills, drugs, and the Vietnam War. All were things that college students felt their parents couldn't understand. Anti war protests organized by the communists and anarchists (see Bill Ayers, Obama's buddy) disrupted society, and did the Civil Rights Movement.

These anti war/anti America people went into politics (See John Kerry, See Tom Hayden et. al.). They went into teaching. They inspired the next wave to rebel against the establishment just like they did in the '60's. They railed against the achievers and producers, since most of them at best were teachers or professors seeking tenure and a cushy job with days filled surround by their intellectual inferiors (students).

The Civil Rights Movement started to loose its luster due to the behavior of the urban rats, so the LGBT movement became the next cause for unfairness.

Let us not forget LBJ's Great Society that created an incentive NOT to work and be productive, or the environmental movement that has become another home for communists attempting to destroy capitalism and achievement.

With the fall of the Soviet Union, and China opening to trade, communism is no longer the in your face threat it once was to many.

Do you want me to go on?

If you are a Millennial, then you can see your contemporaries flocking to Bernie, believing that the gov't has an endless supply of money, that the World needs to forced to be more "fair", and that Conservatives are "mean". You can do us a favor and slap so sense into the for us.

I've raised one conservative, and am in the process of raising another. Make sure you do the same!


Very good Historical Summary...Thank you.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
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So how do we turn the tide and educate the uneducated?
I think this comes from parents actually caring and being parents.Far too many leave the educating to others
Children are raising themselves without proper guidance
Blink and it's too late


Yep. It starts at home.

However, it goes beyond that. We, that care, have to get involved in local politics; school boards (God, what a thankless job), boards of supervisors or selectmen. Get involved in state politics; if not running for state office to represent your area, then be active in supporting the ones that back YOUR points of view.

Be involved in your kids' life, and their education, and hold them - and their schools - accountable.

Then, try to get others to do the same.

The nation didn't end up in the schitter overnight, and it's going to take FAR longer to correct the problems than it did to create them.
Yep and that is what being a real "good parent" is!


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Thank your local school teachers, and the Baby Boomers that embraced socialism during the 60s and then turned into the school teachers and college professors of today's public school teachers.


none of that was an accident, or occured by happenstance. Communists had a long range plan. Back right after the Russian Revolution, they began to infiltrate politics, colleges, unions and newspapers. Keeping mostly in the back ground at first, they burrowed into government at all levels.
The Red Scare of McCarthy had a lot of basis in fact.
After a generation or two, those that think communism is the answer have about taken over education, foreign policy, entertainment and news.
If you have not already boned up on Saul Alinsky,s "12 Rules for Radicals", you are behind the curve.


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge

I think this comes from parents actually caring and being parents.
Many or most of them have drank the marxist koolaide too. It's been around for a long time. Unless the demoncrap party is destroyed there is no hope. They don't even believe their crap, they just want power and the graft that comes with it.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
The youth of america "the Millenniums" have no clue and want to drag this country down a socialist rat hole.
Are they really that ignorant and blind to think that socialism and Bernie Sanders is the way?
Who do we blame for this? The parents for all of the entitlement they raised them with?
The next generation needs to wake up and fast or this nation as we know it is lost forever


They always have. I voted for Ross Perot in 1992. It's thefuckingidiots that never grow out it that are the problem.


That is correct, lootenant.

Also, one needs to keep in mind that Sanders wouldn't be a blip on the radar if he wasn't being promoted by communist elements in the MSM.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by 4ager
Thank your local school teachers, and the Baby Boomers that embraced socialism during the 60s and then turned into the school teachers and college professors of today's public school teachers.


none of that was an accident, or occured by happenstance. Communists had a long range plan. Back right after the Russian Revolution, they began to infiltrate politics, colleges, unions and newspapers. Keeping mostly in the back ground at first, they burrowed into government at all levels.
The Red Scare of McCarthy had a lot of basis in fact.
After a generation or two, those that think communism is the answer have about taken over education, foreign policy, entertainment and news.
If you have not already boned up on Saul Alinsky,s "12 Rules for Radicals", you are behind the curve.
All this is true, but even those who claim true conservatism push for a total unknown quantity in Trump, a man who has never voted conservative in his life. There are real conservatives to chose from and they want to bet the farm on bluster. I see this as nothing but insanity that gives me little hope for a future for my kids or the country.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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Capitalism is a great system until it gets in bed with big, corrupt government.

Once that happens the deck is stacked and all the money starts flowing to the top.

That's what's happened to America

The next thing to happen after capitalism becomes corrupt, is socialism.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter


It is the people that are coming from nothing, mostly oppressed countries who will be the anti-millenial.


Risible. They are not coming here to 'work', but to get free chit, and to be able to spread their religion and culture. They have zero investment in, or respect for, the values that made America what it used to be.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Capitalism is a great system until it gets in bed with big, corrupt government.

Once that happens the deck is stacked and all the money starts flowing to the top.

That's what's happened to America

The next thing to happen after capitalism becomes corrupt, is socialism.
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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
The youth of america "the Millenniums" have no clue and want to drag this country down a socialist rat hole.
Are they really that ignorant and blind to think that socialism and Bernie Sanders is the way?
Who do we blame for this? The parents for all of the entitlement they raised them with?
The next generation needs to wake up and fast or this nation as we know it is lost forever


Parents and using social media as nannies.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Capitalism is a great system until it gets in bed with big, corrupt government.

Once that happens the deck is stacked and all the money starts flowing to the top.

That's what's happened to America

The next thing to happen after capitalism becomes corrupt, is socialism.


Yep


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Which is why there are folks willing to go out on a limb and back Trump.

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What did you expect the product of Boomers to look like?




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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
The youth of america "the Millenniums" have no clue and want to drag this country down a socialist rat hole.
Are they really that ignorant and blind to think that socialism and Bernie Sanders is the way?
Who do we blame for this? The parents for all of the entitlement they raised them with?
The next generation needs to wake up and fast or this nation as we know it is lost forever
The older people in this country have sat around on their asses and let the rich get such a grip on things that there is no opportunity for anybody but those in the top 10% and only then at the behest of the top 1%. We've gotten more and more restrictive laws that are enforced less and less uniformly with a lot more surveilance. We've let the debt get completely out of hand under both Dubya and Zero. That is what makes the ground fertile for a guy like Sanders.



Good explanation.

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Originally Posted by kwg020
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
The youth of america "the Millenniums" have no clue and want to drag this country down a socialist rat hole.
Are they really that ignorant and blind to think that socialism and Bernie Sanders is the way?
Who do we blame for this? The parents for all of the entitlement they raised them with?
The next generation needs to wake up and fast or this nation as we know it is lost forever
The older people in this country have sat around on their asses and let the rich get such a grip on things that there is no opportunity for anybody but those in the top 10% and only then at the behest of the top 1%. We've gotten more and more restrictive laws that are enforced less and less uniformly with a lot more surveilance. We've let the debt get completely out of hand under both Dubya and Zero. That is what makes the ground fertile for a guy like Sanders.



Good explanation.

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I have news for you younger guys:

Nothing was ever as good as you think it was.

Nothing is ever going to be as bad as you think it's gonna be.


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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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I'd don't know if I buy that
I believe if you are smart,motivated and work hard this is still the land of opportunity
Problem is the Millenniums want to circumvent those steps and have it given to them and get it for nothing


It is the people that are coming from nothing, mostly oppressed countries who will be the anti-millenial.


No, no, it won't. They came here for their free chit and will vote accordingly. Which is why they were brought here to start with.


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Originally Posted by bellydeep
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
The youth of america "the Millenniums" have no clue and want to drag this country down a socialist rat hole.
Are they really that ignorant and blind to think that socialism and Bernie Sanders is the way?
Who do we blame for this? The parents for all of the entitlement they raised them with?
The next generation needs to wake up and fast or this nation as we know it is lost forever


What the fugk is a millennium?


I can tell you that as a millennial, I'm sick and fuggin tired of getting blamed for every bad election in this country. And for the record, I blame the baby boomers. Their generation was the start of this whole schit storm and somehow all of the "good people" like yourself allowed the ex-hippies to get control of many key institutions and also trash the economy to boot.

The position we are in now was a long time coming. It didn't happen over night. Old fuggers like yourself don't want to admit that schit slipped away while they were in charge. It's much easier to blame the young folk who have been voting for the least amount of time.


You sound like whin-y fuggin millennial who can't accept blame.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
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So how do we turn the tide and educate the uneducated?
I think this comes from parents actually caring and being parents.Far too many leave the educating to others
Children are raising themselves without proper guidance
Blink and it's too late


How do you stop Yankees from being Yankees? Californians from being Californian?
Your broad brush you paint with isn't completely accurate.Many of these young Sanders supporters are from Red states,the midwest,south etc.
A novel idea would be to get rid of the electoral college and go to a popular vote
But this doesn't change the fact that young voters identify with a socialist


Got $100 says that Blue Yankee states will be Blue and Red states will be Red, regardless.


Pretty much..


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The creation of Federal agencies and tax policy just after the turn of the last century brought socialism to the US and countless "emergencies" at local, state and national level.

Whether it was social security or keeping New Orleans from flooding, politicians had even greater access to spending other peoples money.
The same ills of a hundred years ago are still here and even worse since socialism ( waste, fraud and laundering) has pissed away wealth that isnt fiat.

Millenials werent around....

In fact they are just doing as they learned; kick the can down the road and let someone else worry about it. Nothing has broken yet....

The government has been pro-socialism for quite some time.

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