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Posted By: Deerwhacker444 Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
The Press is going to BBQ him. Or at least try to. Especially, after his 2+ minute rip into what they're doing…and not doing!

Be interesting to see who he calls on. He's still ripping them!!
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Oh man!! Here we go!!
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
He is eviscerating them...
Posted By: benchman Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Calling out the horsecrap. Knock it off, azzholes. Ha!
Posted By: add Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Boss Trump on full display.

He is verbally fist fu*king CNN, lol.
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
OMG did he just say Nuclear advantages?
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by jorgeI
He is eviscerating them...


This^^^^
Posted By: RWE Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Quote
Does anybody here really think that Hillary Clinton would be tougher on Russia than Donald Trump?

BAM!!!!
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
He's really pissed!!
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
As he and we should be

Fake news isn't good for America
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
he's eating there ass lol
Posted By: add Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
He needs to fire Spencer and appoint himself press secretary.
Posted By: ChippewaPartners Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Letting Americans see the trash/actors of the MSM that call themselves "journalists".

Beautiful honesty.
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
As he and we should be

Fake news isn't good for America


Don't disagree and the room would fare well by learning from this session.

Instead of asking all these stupid questions that are creating scandals about all the fake news from paneled discussions move onto the real issues like jobs, taxes, security, inner cities, military…etc!!! He wants those.

It 's the panels that the networks form and fabricate really damaging opinions that would pizzz me off. Him as well.
Posted By: Toddly Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
" I had a meeting set up with Cummings but he backed out probably because it was bad politically for him. I'm sure Schumer the lightweight told him to do it"

Go Donald
Posted By: kingston Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
He need to talk about the good people in the inner cities. These are good, hard working people. We've let them down. These good people don't deserve to live like this.
Posted By: Jim in Idaho Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
I cannot remember the last time I watched a presidential press conference all the way through. I couldn't stomach Obama for 2 seconds and the prior guys bored me to tears.

That was good. He's a little bombastic but that's Trump. I think he hit the points well and answered their questions well. He was a bit evasive here and there but overall he was forthright, at least his answers weren't 100% bullsh*t like we've grown so used to, he was trying to remain diplomatic but he let Donald come through and not some carefully polished mask of himself. I didn't see him get mad but he did cut off some folks and rightfully so.

His response about what he's going to do with recent Russian moves was good, could have been better but the gist was "I'm not going to tell you our military moves, not with Russia, not with North Korea or Iran or anyone.".

Posted By: Bristoe Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
,..and as soon as it's over, the CNN propaganda machine starts in with the fake news again.
Posted By: LRoyJetson Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
New show....."Beat The Press"
Posted By: add Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Yarmulke Wearing Reporter Guy: "Why are you anti-semantic?"



Trump: "You told me you were going to ask me a fair question when I called on you. You are a liar, now sit down."
Posted By: Raeford Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by add
Yarmulke Wearing Reporter Guy: "Why are you anti-semantic?"



Trump: "You told me you were going to ask me a fair question when I called on you. You are a liar, now sit down."


"quiet, quiet, quiet"

laugh
Posted By: ingwe Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
First time in 8 years I could watch the President without becoming infuriated....
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
The good news is he took a lot of questions

The bad news is he took a lot of questions.

My only advice … stop campaigning PERIOD. Never say Hillary's name again.

Keep on governing and making deals. When he comes across as caring for the people he's great!! He did that today.
Posted By: add Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by RWE
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Does anybody here really think that Hillary Clinton would be tougher on Russia than Donald Trump?

BAM!!!!



Why are you guys (press) always razzing me about ties to Russia?

You do know Hillary gave 20% of our Uranium to them, don't you?
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by byc
The good news is he took a lot of questions

The bad news is he took a lot of questions.



I disagree. He used the media to hammer the media.

I would have been happy to see him stay up there on national TV verbally slapping the fake news representatives in the face all day long.
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
That was the best one I have ever seen.
It's about time a President bitch slapped the press!
Posted By: bigwhoop Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
POTUS is kicking media azz while smiling and being respectful. A historic event that needs to be watched in totality a couple times.
His Florida rally on Saturday will be "big league"!
Posted By: Toddly Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Shepard Smith has blood coming out of his everywhere. Fox News needs to gets rid of this piece of dog schit.
Posted By: benchman Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Shep Smith sounds like a kid who thinks he's real cute. What a creep. The man has no substance at all.
Posted By: benchman Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by Toddly
Shepard Smith has blood coming out of his everywhere. Fox News needs to gets rid of this piece of dog schit.
Hadda turn him off.
Posted By: LostHighway Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Does anyone find it just a bit odd Trump's obsession with his popularity numbers?
Two days ago in a news conference with the Israeli PM. He was asked about the rise of anti semitic violence. His answer began with him talking about his electoral college numbers.
Today in the news conference he was asked about his statement that he won with more electoral votes since Ronald Reagan (Not true). He "corrected" himself and said he meant more than any Republician (Not true, GW Bush also had more). Then further corrected said "someone told him that".
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by LostHighway
Does anyone find it just a bit odd Trump's obsession with his popularity numbers?
Two days ago in a news conference with the Israeli PM. He was asked about the rise of anti semitic violence. His answer began with him talking about his electoral college numbers.
Today in the news conference he was asked about his statement that he won with more electoral votes since Ronald Reagan (Not true). He "corrected" himself and said he meant more than any Republician (Not true, GW Bush also had more). Then further corrected said "someone told him that".


No. I find him a bit odd in general, but then I don't know many yankee billionaires to compare him to.
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Transcript if anyone wants to read it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/us/politics/donald-trump-press-conference-transcript.html?_r=0
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by LostHighway
Does anyone find it just a bit odd


I find you to be odd.
Posted By: Bwana_1 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by byc
The good news is he took a lot of questions

The bad news is he took a lot of questions.

My only advice … stop campaigning PERIOD. Never say Hillary's name again.

Keep on governing and making deals. When he comes across as caring for the people he's great!! He did that today.


Bingo grin
Posted By: RickyD Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by LostHighway
Does anyone find it just a bit odd Trump's obsession with his popularity numbers?
Two days ago in a news conference with the Israeli PM. He was asked about the rise of anti semitic violence. His answer began with him talking about his electoral college numbers.
Today in the news conference he was asked about his statement that he won with more electoral votes since Ronald Reagan (Not true). He "corrected" himself and said he meant more than any Republician (Not true, GW Bush also had more). Then further corrected said "someone told him that".
Nope. That's Trump. You should know that by now. That's what I find odd, is that you don't.
Posted By: baldhunter Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
One thing about Trump,he quick to let you know what he thinks.The media doesn't quite know how to handle it,but then I've gotten to where I can hardly watch the news anymore myself.Different,yes,but I'd rather he come out and tell it like it is than have someone just flat out lie to you.I think he's the real deal,strives for fairness and will gain a lot of respect worldwide.
Posted By: bigfish9684 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by LostHighway
Does anyone find it just a bit odd Trump's obsession with his popularity numbers?
Two days ago in a news conference with the Israeli PM. He was asked about the rise of anti semitic violence. His answer began with him talking about his electoral college numbers.
Today in the news conference he was asked about his statement that he won with more electoral votes since Ronald Reagan (Not true). He "corrected" himself and said he meant more than any Republician (Not true, GW Bush also had more). Then further corrected said "someone told him that".


Hey look it's the coc ksucker who wouldn't hold up his end of his bet with Fubarski to leave this site when Hillary lost.

Why are you not a man of your word? Because you're a marxist democrat.

Posted By: 4ager Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by LostHighway
Does anyone find it just a bit odd Trump's obsession with his popularity numbers?
Two days ago in a news conference with the Israeli PM. He was asked about the rise of anti semitic violence. His answer began with him talking about his electoral college numbers.
Today in the news conference he was asked about his statement that he won with more electoral votes since Ronald Reagan (Not true). He "corrected" himself and said he meant more than any Republician (Not true, GW Bush also had more). Then further corrected said "someone told him that".


I find it odd that the MSM and schits like you never held Hussein accountable for anything, never held Hitlery accountable for anything, and are now obsessed with Trump and "accountability".

Wait, no, I do not find that odd. I find it typically hypocritical of socialists.
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
To be fair - after Obama won in 2012, and easily, most of us were just waiting for his four years to be up. Now "our" guy is in and we will hold him to a higher standard.

Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by LostHighway
Does anyone find it just a bit odd Trump's obsession with his popularity numbers?
Two days ago in a news conference with the Israeli PM. He was asked about the rise of anti semitic violence. His answer began with him talking about his electoral college numbers.
Today in the news conference he was asked about his statement that he won with more electoral votes since Ronald Reagan (Not true). He "corrected" himself and said he meant more than any Republician (Not true, GW Bush also had more). Then further corrected said "someone told him that".


I find it odd that the MSM and schits like you never held Hussein accountable for anything, never held Hitlery accountable for anything, and are now obsessed with Trump and "accountability".

Wait, no, I do not find that odd. I find it typically hypocritical of socialists.


It is the very nature of liberalism to accept any means to an end, just as it is the nature of conservatism to find any amount of dishonesty unacceptable.
Posted By: Pat85 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
He treats them like the slime they are.
Posted By: Gibby Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Hold a one hour news conference on the Media bias. With a PowerPoint presentation of examples.


Remove the news organizations from the Whitehouse briefing's and Air force One that continue to skew the news.

_________________________
The trigger finger is always itching.

-------------------------------------------------------------
Said this back on 1/24/2017 in another thread.

Trump did it better today.

I loved it.

Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by Gibby
Hold a one hour news conference on the Media bias. With a PowerPoint presentation of examples.


Remove the news organizations from the Whitehouse briefing's and Air force One that continue to skew the news.

_________________________
The trigger finger is always itching.

-------------------------------------------------------------
Said this back on 1/24/2017 in another thread.

Trump did it better today.

I loved it.



It works for Russia.
Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
I sure like Mr Trump, put simply, because each action seems to be motivated by intent to move us in a positive direction and he does not, again put very simply, he does not seem to be lying his ass off. If he brags he's doing what he said he would, keeping promises, fine by me. Winning is surely a turn for the better...
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by Bristoe
,..and as soon as it's over, the CNN propaganda machine starts in with the fake news again.


IT didn't take them long. Just as THE PRESIDENT smile predicted, Fake News CNN says "Trump rant and raved". No he didn't he cut their nuts off. It was the most amazing press conference I've seen in my lifetime
Posted By: Gibby Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Gibby
Hold a one hour news conference on the Media bias. With a PowerPoint presentation of examples.


Remove the news organizations from the Whitehouse briefing's and Air force One that continue to skew the news.

_________________________
The trigger finger is always itching.

-------------------------------------------------------------
Said this back on 1/24/2017 in another thread.

Trump did it better today.

I loved it.



It works for Russia.



It's not squelching the news at all. The news will get to the people through the professional media that tells the truth, the whole truth. The media outlets that want to propagandize will not get the scoops.
Posted By: bigfish9684 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by ltppowell
It works for Russia.


JFC. Stick a tampon in it.

Ted Cruz/Sandie Vagina 2020!
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by bigfish9684
Originally Posted by ltppowell
It works for Russia.


JFC. Stick a tampon in it.

Ted Cruz/Sandie Vagina 2020!


Stop stalking me. I'm sure you're cute in the mirror, but enough is enough.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by jorgeI
It was the most amazing press conference I've seen in my lifetime


It was Epic!

The press hates that he can walk with balls the size of basketballs.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
If you want to piss off a liberal, tell them the truth.

If you want to piss off a conservative, tell them a lie.

Seems to fit here.
Posted By: bigfish9684 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by bigfish9684
Originally Posted by ltppowell
It works for Russia.


JFC. Stick a tampon in it.

Ted Cruz/Sandie Vagina 2020!


Stop stalking me. I'm sure you're cute in the mirror, but enough is enough.


Careful... THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Liberals love invoking the Russians! laugh

I find it funny that the Russians are firing missiles and have a boat taunting our coastline when Putin and Trump are so buddy-buddy...

Someone must be lyin'!

My money is on the media.
Posted By: bigfish9684 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Liberals love invoking the Russians!


Originally Posted by ltppowell
It works for Russia.

Posted By: MontanaMarine Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
If the Russians are so big, bad, and scary, why do we work so closely with them on the space program?

The MSM never touches on that sort of thing.

We have a lot of common security interests in todays world.
Posted By: MagMarc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
CBS hit piece did 15 minutes about it.
Posted By: 4ager Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
If the Russians are so big, bad, and scary, why do we work so closely with them on the space program?

The MSM never touches on that sort of thing.

We have a lot of common security interests in todays world.


The Russians are scary to the leftists because the Ds and leftists are aligned with Communist China, not semi-capitalist Russia. The Russians are useful to the statists and old-guard militarists because they want to restart the Cold War. The Russians are important to America because there are three major powers in the world today (US, Russia, China), and two of them will face the other; we get to choose which pairing happens.
Posted By: Pat85 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Russians scare the left because they support Christianity.
Posted By: Calvin Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
If the Russians are so big, bad, and scary, why do we work so closely with them on the space program?

The MSM never touches on that sort of thing.

We have a lot of common security interests in todays world.


Good chance in my opinion that in the next 50 years it will be Russia and the United States vs. all the places the Muzzies have taken over, which will be most of the world.

Posted By: 4winds Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Winning........













Bigly.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by 4winds
Winning........













Bigly.


We'll know in a year or so. I get my taxes done tomorrow, and at this point it looks worse than ever.
Posted By: 4ager Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by 4winds
Winning........













Bigly.


We'll know in a year or so. I get my taxes done tomorrow, and at this point it looks worse than ever.


2016 is a Hussein year. A conservative and honest answer would acknowledge that, or would not have brought up a tax year prior to a current administration in the first place.
Posted By: rosco1 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by ltppowell
I get my taxes done tomorrow, and at this point it looks worse than ever.


What the hell are you talking about?
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by 4winds
Winning........
Bigly.


We'll know in a year or so. I get my taxes done tomorrow, and at this point it looks worse than ever.


Are you using the new tax plan?? wink
Posted By: 4ager Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by rosco1
Originally Posted by ltppowell
I get my taxes done tomorrow, and at this point it looks worse than ever.


What the hell are you talking about?


He's still butt hurt that a faux-Texican televangelist didn't win the nomination in order to lose to Hitlery.
Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Did he say, "Department of In-Homeland Security?"


Edit:
Office not department.

1:17:33 ...create or creating, a "new office of In-Homeland Security"

then something like .... dedicated to the victims of crimes committed by illegal immigrants, which there are many.



Posted By: gunner500 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by 4winds
Winning........













Bigly.


We'll know in a year or so. I get my taxes done tomorrow, and at this point it looks worse than ever.


You fished too much again, eh?
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by rosco1
Originally Posted by ltppowell
I get my taxes done tomorrow, and at this point it looks worse than ever.


What the hell are you talking about?


He's still butt hurt that a faux-Texican televangelist didn't win the nomination in order to lose to Hitlery.


laugh, let me be clear. laugh
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
That's why he said in a year or so.

Jesus people. Everybody runnin' around trying to smash everybody else if they don't start slobbin' on Trumps knob..

Posted By: 4ager Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by MadMooner
That's why he said in a year or so.

Jesus people. Everybody runnin' around trying to smash everybody else if they don't start slobbin' on Trumps knob..



Pat has been whining since Cruz ate a bugger. He ain't stopped yet.

Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by 4winds
Winning........













Bigly.


We'll know in a year or so. I get my taxes done tomorrow, and at this point it looks worse than ever.


2016 is a Hussein year. A conservative and honest answer would acknowledge that, or would not have brought up a tax year prior to a current administration in the first place.


That's I why I said we'll know in a year, or so. As of now, nothing has changed but names.
Posted By: bigfish9684 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by MadMooner
That's why he said in a year or so.

Jesus people. Everybody runnin' around trying to smash everybody else if they don't start slobbin' on Trumps knob..



Pat has been whining since Cruz ate a bugger. He ain't stopped yet.



Yeah he has... But he did say in a year or so we'll know. I didn't catch it the first time reading his post. Kinda gotta read between the lines on that one.
Posted By: rosco1 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Is this CNN?
Posted By: rosco1 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
I didnt say anything, honest injun!
Posted By: 4ager Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by 4winds
Winning........













Bigly.


We'll know in a year or so. I get my taxes done tomorrow, and at this point it looks worse than ever.


2016 is a Hussein year. A conservative and honest answer would acknowledge that, or would not have brought up a tax year prior to a current administration in the first place.


That's I why I said we'll know in a year, or so. As of now, nothing has changed but names.


If you were being honest, you'd admit that an incoming POTUS inaugurated in January could do exactly nothing about a prior, closed, tax year. That, or simply not bringing it up at all as it is irrelevant. That'd be a proper - conservative - take on it, vice implying that otherwise would be or should be the case.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by MadMooner
That's why he said in a year or so.

Jesus people. Everybody runnin' around trying to smash everybody else if they don't start slobbin' on Trumps knob..



"At this point it looks worse than ever" was the bang switch Mooner. grin
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by 4ager

If you were being honest, you'd admit that an incoming POTUS inaugurated in January could do exactly nothing about a prior, closed, tax year. That, or simply not bringing it up at all as it is irrelevant. That'd be a proper - conservative - take on it, vice implying that otherwise would be or should be the case.


That's just stupid. Of course nothing has changed...that's what I said. Irrelevant? I hope not. I'm hoping to pay a couple hundred dollars less in income tax and a few thousand less for health insurance next year.
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by 4ager

If you were being honest, you'd admit that an incoming POTUS inaugurated in January could do exactly nothing about a prior, closed, tax year. That, or simply not bringing it up at all as it is irrelevant. That'd be a proper - conservative - take on it, vice implying that otherwise would be or should be the case.


That's just stupid. Of course nothing has changed...that's what I said. Irrelevant? I hope not. I'm hoping to pay a couple hundred dollars less in income tax and a few thousand less for health insurance next year.


Say what!?? So this is what I have to look forward too? Just F' me. Another year at Blue now for sure!!!
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Ya gotta be realistic to some extent, but I'm shooting for the moon.
Posted By: rosco1 Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
If the MSM has thought us anything the last 10 years with their non stop intellectual dishonesty..

It made the intellectual dishonest really easy to spot..Keep trying
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Yeah but I'm not even paying a few thousand a year now. For a great plan.

This is some scary stuff now. For me anyway!!
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by byc
Yeah but I'm not even paying a few thousand a year now. For a great plan.

This is some scary stuff now. For me anyway!!


If you ain't paying several thousand for health insurance now, you damn sure ain't in the majority.
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Cadillac plan at $1400 or so. Granted corporate foots the balance but I may need to stay employed now. Dangit!!!

Donald needs to get the ACA thing going NOW!! I'm onboard.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by byc
Cadillac plan at $1400 or so. Granted corporate foots the balance but I may need to stay employed now. Dangit!!!


You should consider it, 'cause my previous employer is paying 50% of my retiree insurance at $6k per year with a $7500 deductible on the KIA plan.
Posted By: byc Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
That's totally insane. Now I know why folks are freaking.

Thanks!!
Posted By: George_De_Vries_3rd Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17

Yeah, a typical scenario is family folks in the 60-90k range with a 5k deductible after 6k in premiums -- one of the reasons, we've seen surgery volumes drop significantly and individual surgeons practice drop 25-30%.

Who's going to get a small hernia fixed on that income, eat their deductible and have to come up with another 5k?

Or come in for any number of smaller procedures and have to pay for them out of pocket because they don't touch their deductible?
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Trump LIVE - 02/16/17
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Yeah, a typical scenario is family folks in the 60-90k range with a 5k deductible after 6k in premiums -- one of the reasons, we've seen surgery volumes drop significantly and individual surgeons practice drop 25-30%.

Who's going to get a small hernia fixed on that income, eat their deductible and have to come up with another 5k?

Or come in for any number of smaller procedures and have to pay for them out of pocket because they don't touch their deductible?


Yup. F'it. The average Joe is gonna just let it go until it cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to treat, rather than starve his kids to death.
Posted By: BMT Re: Trump LIVE - 02/17/17
Originally Posted by byc
That's totally insane. Now I know why folks are freaking.

Thanks!!


Gold plan for my family is $2,350/month
Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: Trump LIVE - 02/17/17
Affordable Health Care. LOL
Posted By: heavywalker Re: Trump LIVE - 02/17/17
My families (4 people) plan costs 1920 per month employer pays 2/3 of the premium. The year obamacare was passed the plan cost 980 per month, we have had reductions in some of our benefits as mandated by obamacare.
Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: Trump LIVE - 02/17/17
Yep - higher costs & lower coverage. Only way to win on O-care is to NOT work for a living.
Posted By: edk Re: Trump LIVE - 02/17/17
My insurance with daughter was 1450 month. Now with her off its 950.Of course i have a 10000 dolar deductable. ED K
Posted By: Dutch Re: Trump LIVE - 02/17/17
You guys live in the wrong place. I pay about $500 a month, $1,000 deductable and $4,000 stop loss. That's a standard Blue Cross policy my company buys for all employees.

High, for sure, but nothing like you are talking about.

I think the reason surgery volumes are off is that people are going south of the border to get small surgeries done for a fraction of the price. An acquaintance just had two root canals and bridges put in in Puerto Vallarta. $600 and change vs $3,600 locally. US trained dentist, too. Another acquaintance had his daughter go down for arthroscopic knee surgery, couple of thousand $ and she's up and running again.

The problem is not the cost of insurance, the problem is the cost of medical care.
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Trump LIVE - 02/17/17
Originally Posted by Dutch
You guys live in the wrong place. I pay about $500 a month, $1,000 deductable and $4,000 stop loss. That's a standard Blue Cross policy my company buys for all employees.

High, for sure, but nothing like you are talking about.

I think the reason surgery volumes are off is that people are going south of the border to get small surgeries done for a fraction of the price. An acquaintance just had two root canals and bridges put in in Puerto Vallarta. $600 and change vs $3,600 locally. US trained dentist, too. Another acquaintance had his daughter go down for arthroscopic knee surgery, couple of thousand $ and she's up and running again.

The problem is not the cost of insurance, the problem is the cost of medical care.


It's fugged.
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