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If the MSM has thought us anything the last 10 years with their non stop intellectual dishonesty..
It made the intellectual dishonest really easy to spot..Keep trying
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Yeah but I'm not even paying a few thousand a year now. For a great plan.
This is some scary stuff now. For me anyway!!
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Yeah but I'm not even paying a few thousand a year now. For a great plan.
This is some scary stuff now. For me anyway!! If you ain't paying several thousand for health insurance now, you damn sure ain't in the majority.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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Cadillac plan at $1400 or so. Granted corporate foots the balance but I may need to stay employed now. Dangit!!!
Donald needs to get the ACA thing going NOW!! I'm onboard.
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Cadillac plan at $1400 or so. Granted corporate foots the balance but I may need to stay employed now. Dangit!!! You should consider it, 'cause my previous employer is paying 50% of my retiree insurance at $6k per year with a $7500 deductible on the KIA plan.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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That's totally insane. Now I know why folks are freaking.
Thanks!!
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Yeah, a typical scenario is family folks in the 60-90k range with a 5k deductible after 6k in premiums -- one of the reasons, we've seen surgery volumes drop significantly and individual surgeons practice drop 25-30%.
Who's going to get a small hernia fixed on that income, eat their deductible and have to come up with another 5k?
Or come in for any number of smaller procedures and have to pay for them out of pocket because they don't touch their deductible?
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Yeah, a typical scenario is family folks in the 60-90k range with a 5k deductible after 6k in premiums -- one of the reasons, we've seen surgery volumes drop significantly and individual surgeons practice drop 25-30%.
Who's going to get a small hernia fixed on that income, eat their deductible and have to come up with another 5k?
Or come in for any number of smaller procedures and have to pay for them out of pocket because they don't touch their deductible?
Yup. F'it. The average Joe is gonna just let it go until it cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to treat, rather than starve his kids to death.
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That's totally insane. Now I know why folks are freaking.
Thanks!! Gold plan for my family is $2,350/month
"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
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Affordable Health Care. LOL
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
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My families (4 people) plan costs 1920 per month employer pays 2/3 of the premium. The year obamacare was passed the plan cost 980 per month, we have had reductions in some of our benefits as mandated by obamacare.
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Yep - higher costs & lower coverage. Only way to win on O-care is to NOT work for a living.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
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My insurance with daughter was 1450 month. Now with her off its 950.Of course i have a 10000 dolar deductable. ED K
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You guys live in the wrong place. I pay about $500 a month, $1,000 deductable and $4,000 stop loss. That's a standard Blue Cross policy my company buys for all employees.
High, for sure, but nothing like you are talking about.
I think the reason surgery volumes are off is that people are going south of the border to get small surgeries done for a fraction of the price. An acquaintance just had two root canals and bridges put in in Puerto Vallarta. $600 and change vs $3,600 locally. US trained dentist, too. Another acquaintance had his daughter go down for arthroscopic knee surgery, couple of thousand $ and she's up and running again.
The problem is not the cost of insurance, the problem is the cost of medical care.
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You guys live in the wrong place. I pay about $500 a month, $1,000 deductable and $4,000 stop loss. That's a standard Blue Cross policy my company buys for all employees.
High, for sure, but nothing like you are talking about.
I think the reason surgery volumes are off is that people are going south of the border to get small surgeries done for a fraction of the price. An acquaintance just had two root canals and bridges put in in Puerto Vallarta. $600 and change vs $3,600 locally. US trained dentist, too. Another acquaintance had his daughter go down for arthroscopic knee surgery, couple of thousand $ and she's up and running again.
The problem is not the cost of insurance, the problem is the cost of medical care. It's fugged.
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