I was diagnosed with low testosterone years ago and went through 3 different topical gels that really had no effect. Finally went to an Endocrinologist last month to start blood workup and he prescribed me with the injections. I gave myself the first one last night which was pretty much a non event. I have given thousands of injections over the years, just not many to myself. I was actually able to wake up on time this morning instead of snoozing for the normal 2 hours. Other than that, nothing else noticeable yet.

Anyone else have any experience with the injections? Anything to watch out for or advice?

My son in law takes them, he says it helps. I had mine checked a few years ago, it was ok.

I know quite a number of men who have gone that route and all say they more than satisfied. Start some resistance/weight training even in modest amounts, especially for your legs and you will feel amazingly better psyically in 4-6 weeks.

Also note that you are probably give a long actin form of Test, either enathate or cypianate, which will take 5+ days to hit its peak plasma levels. Reports are sporting solid morning wood everyday will tell you if you are at a good level. Good luck.

Heard that therapy causes nut cancer.

Good luck with all that....limpdick

I broke my back in 2003 and honestly, my physical quality of life has steadily gone down hill. I started working in an office cube almost 2 years ago so that isn't exactly helping. Recently got a new JRT pup so there are long walks to deplete her energy supply. I plan to slowly work my way back into the gym if this stuff starts restoring my motivation. I am injecting 200mg/ml of the cypionate bi-weekly starting off and then go back in April for blood work again.

Are you stating that you're injecting 400 Mg per week?

My mistake, bi-monthly.

Did your doctor prescribe an aromatase inhibitor also, such as Arimidex?

No, just the injections.

Come on man!!!!! KSMITH is turning a new page looking
for advice on the .www for gawds sake. Even though I don't know why someone would
put this out their for the entire planet to see.


Either being numb or putting out bait for a spat is all I can figure.
If it is true it does explain alot about him though😃😃😃

I'm bet their is plenty of google- fu info to be found other than on a hunting
website.


Here's some advice KSMITH....


Stop being a chronic masturbater like a bonobo ape
all day and night long on porn sites.
And you might be able to get the fugg up in the morning.
And your "T" level might improve.

Have a nice day......

lol...........

This forum is not a good place for a lengthy discussion about HRT and all of its implications.

There have been a number of good books,written in the last 12 years, discussing this topic.This book was published three years ago and documents this physicians experience with HRT.I suggest reading this and becoming more informed on this topic,since administering just testosterone is fraught with some serious complications.

Testosterone Replacement Therapy—A Recipe For Success by Dr. John Crisler.

This book could save you years of searching for the right answers.

https://www.amazon.com/Testosterone-Replacement-Therapy-Recipe-Success/dp/0983773947

I hope this works out well for you. Keep us posted.

Meh, I ignore my nutswingers and could care less what they post. I ordered the book and should have it in time for a weekend read.

Does it cause prostate cancer?

No it does not.This false claim was dis-proven 13 years ago.

There's one caveat ,that is ,if you have an existing case of cancer you would not embark upon HRT.

From my understanding via my doctor, it does not cause prostrate cancer but will accelerate the process much as any hormone therapy will do to any cancer. But as I said, not an expert, just relaying my concerns I presented to my doctor. I think one of the first things oncologists do is suppress a patients hormone system to slow the spread.

What he said...

I think it's probably pretty obvious that his MD would have complete bloodworm including a PSA score on him.

Aromatase inhibitors are probably not needed at the levels he is taking, and I once again feel pretty confident that his MD will be checking Free and total T levels, as well as his estrogen level. For those not in know, Testosterone is converted (aromatized) into estrogen which is why supra physiologic levels of test causes estrogenic side effects such as gynecomastia.

I know men taking 50% more than he is, and they are on an A.I.

Theere is ample research out that disproves exogeneous testosterone is detrimental to a healthy prostate, nor does it exacerbate BPH.

A great source of information is the T Nation TRT forum. Read the stickies section a couple times. Your going to need to monitor your Estradiol levels and may have to take an Aromatase Inhibitor if it gets too high. High Estradiol has many of the same effects as low T. Being in shape helps in not producing high Estradiol. Start doing sub cutaneous injections with a 5/8" 25 g needle and inject twice a week. You may also want to consider HCG along with the T injections. It not only keeps your own testicles producing T and not shrinking, but has other benefits as well. It's not as simple as most docs just recommending T. If you tried gel and it did not work, you really need to rule out thyroid issues. Many times those who get no effect from gels/creams have thyroid issues. The stickies section goes into great detail about diagnosing thyroid issues. Sometimes until you resolve any thyroid issue, even injecting T has a poor effect. That's a rough overview of some important points.

So in short, your wife is still taking the injections and tonight is buttfugg night for you.

Welcome back steelhead
Care to say that to my face.........
Lorreta lynn,s kitchen
Half way travel for both of us.
Offer is always open
You mouth o mighty little female dog.

Sure, when would you like to meet?

Looks like the snake has slithered his way back here.........unfortunate.

I bet you've heard that before and it was a black snake, right?

Tommorow at noon. I drive I white extended cab ford ranger with Montgomery county plates.
I will wait till 1230 then leave.

Ok

I've used Testosterone replacement for 23 years. Started with patches that caused red rings where they were applied. Moved on to Androgel, which is like an alcohol based cream that you simply rub on your shoulders in the morning after a shower. Androgel is far and away the best replacement I every had, but it's on patent and without good health care coverage you'll never get it. Currently I'm back on the shots. I've tried to do them myself, but injections in my leg cause it to swell for a week after the injection. So I visit my local clinic very other week and they give me my shot in the rear. It doesn't even cost me anything out of pocket.

How was Chehalis?

Steelhead is back....

We sheltered in place. 😂.

He will never show. Hints the nickname.

Yeah, wish I could get rid of some, I'd give it to ya for free, I've been on fuggin estrogen since 1985!

Heard Jud built a panic room?

Oh that’s funny. I hear he was so worried he was wearing his bug out bag in bed.
Word is Scott did his toenails.

I went through the Testim, fortesta and androgel with no noticeable change in blood work. I pretty much gave up on it until a month or so ago went I finally went to see an Endocrinologist. He wanted two more additional blood tests from his practice and then prescribed the injections. After I gave myself the injection last night I still have a bit of a charlie horse in my thigh but haven't had any noticeable changes as of yet. Like I said, I am no expert and was looking to see if anyone else here has gone this route. Unfortunately we have the F-Troop guys that run around and schitt in every thread making a conversation damned near impossible.

Wow! good for you, When will the Dr’s let you finish transitioning? The whole addadicktome how brave.

Are we going from male to female or female to male?

What's the sound of one hand clapping grasshopper?

just put 'em on ignore, no problem

... and they're racing!!!

Yep, F-Troop is making the fire great again. lol

Got it.
Female to ........female still.

that's what the little piggies do

Been down the road of test. injections for several years now. Life is better(depression) and on my best day in 2017 I could do 12 chin-ups. I'm 65. Do it.

Come on man!!!!! KSMITH is turning a new page looking
for advice on the .www for gawds sake. Even though I don't know why someone would
put this out their for the entire planet to see.


Either being numb or putting out bait for a spat is all I can figure.
If it is true it does explain alot about him though😃😃😃

I'm bet their is plenty of google- fu info to be found other than on a hunting
website.



Here's some advice KSMITH....


Stop being a chronic masturbater like a bonobo ape
all day and night long on porn sites.
And you might be able to get the fugg up in the morning.
And your "T" level might improve.

Have a nice day......

(quote)
Just spewed coke all over my iPad. renegade50, you are a funny M-fckr!

Not too shabby.

I will be 65 Monday. Where did the years go too? I was 18 the other day!!!

hanco...Happy early 65th Birthday....🎂🎁

Oh, you're back. That's unfortunate.

Apparently dude and his sock puppet need to double the dosage.

🐈🐈🐈🐓🐓🐓💩💩💩

Haldol

New title....

Is this where you are "returning fire"? Or is this you running around waiting for your nuts to drop? Do you ever tire of being the little dog running around nipping at everyone's ankles? I pray every night that you will become a man and leave your childish ways behind you...

All I see are nine squares.

BECOME A MAN says the guy pushing rope. 🤨😂😂😂😂👍

Lmao🤣

Cheers! Happy 65th! I hope you enjoy your day!

haha this is “your” thread about not having nuts, not mine.
and we’re praying for you too....your estrogen levels are way too high.

I hope your internet goes out...like forever.

You liberals and your net neutrality.

If we're voting people off the island I like Tom's chances better than yours.

Well get to voting then. Let;s see if you can pull it off...

Guess you are waiting for your girls club to gather...You guys really are pitiful.

Not so fast, someone needs to cook and do laundry.

I made a thread especially for you guys. Please use it and quit trashing every thread on the board...

Do you prefer the label "drama queen" or "attention whore"

Neither means much coming from you.

So when are setting up your vote princess?

Starting a "poor me, my manhood is in jeopardy" then a "poor me everybody's mean to me" thread would mean the answer is "c" all of the above..

Steelhead's gone so you don't have anybody to run circles around yipping like a little Pomeranian.

Never knew him, never met him, and sure as hell never needed him. Just because you azz clowns keep saying it , doesn;'t make it true.

You mean like what you and your boys do?

I just love living in mrs Ksmiths head free rent.

And your other thread.

Pretty doucheeeee

Personally, I couldnt give 2 schits which sperm burper started the thread or the cum guzzlers whacking his nuts....im glad someone is talking about it. Women have a hormone imbalance problem or such and they get anything they want. Us guys, damn near gotta be on your death bed to get hormones. The whole steroid abuse/scandal phugged us good.

Tom, you couldn't afford it even with Steelheads payments. You just don't matter enough grasshopper.

Make sure to have your levels checked at regular intervals. I've been getting injections for a little over a year now and never really noticed any difference. I had my levels checked in January and they were lower than when I started, so they increased my dosage and now I can actually tell a difference.

Do you do the injections yourself? I do and had a hell of a charlie horse for 3 days.

No, I go to the doctor. Their office is two doors down from where I work.

K and D
Lots of grass fed meat
Brazil nits
Celery
NO GRAINS
lift heavy chit!
48 years old. Last T test was upper 800's

I'd rather do it myself. I just can't spare the time to drive and wait. I ain't much scared of needles unless it is a Fast One, In that case, I would rather die.

Damn you are spun up.

It’s the lack of testosterone.
Way too much estrogen in all her posts, course she stays up here in the “hunters” campfire forums where most of the non hunters stay.

Not at all. Especially not by you. You go around posting about me but then have nothing to say. How is that voting me off the island thing going for you?

Is it just me you are enamored with or just hate to see grown folks have conversations that you can't keep up with? Or is it that you are just so damned immature that you can't understand?

Yep, you are spun up. You're probably red faced and blowing right now. As to votes, I'd say right now Tom's got about 90% more than you do.

You probably really believe that don't you. Dude, you couldn't wind up your wristwatch without your mommas help much less spin me up. Props to you for thinking you are doing a good job though. lol

No Kdouch you are pretty spun up.

When I was 22 mine was 15-1600 something or other, the Doc said he thought I would develop prostate cancer and put me on estrogen to knock it back some, I've been on it for 33 years, last blood work my test was 800 or so, he was okay with that.

I do know as a young man every attractive woman I saw I thought instantly about murdering her vagina and chewing the boobies off her chest, guess I'm glad the Doc spooled me down, I would have probably been in prison or long dead by now.

No Tom, I am most definitely not. Ethan, you finally have back up now. Give him a hand.

Jesus Christ, miracle you haven't killed someone by now. No wonder you are built like a brick [bleep].

[/quote]You probably really believe that don't you. Dude, you couldn't wind up your wristwatch without your mommas help much less spin me up. Props to you for thinking you are doing a good job though. lol
[/quote]You're just some douchebag that I'd have never given two thoughts to if it were not for your stubborn defense of the indefensible. I honestly don't gaf about you in the least.

LOL, the unexplained simmering rage at a young age was something to really study on my friend, probably got that from my crazy Pappy, he was a raving psychotic lunatic, but, for all the right reasons, he got a lot of good chit done before he left us.

Where did I ask for "backup"? I scotch my own snakes. If you keep going this way you're gonna have to have some more pills to get you to your safe space. lol

Ask your mom how to quote correctly on a BB because you absolutely suck at it. Post me up where I EVER defended anyone on her. You only have 13 years of posts to go back through so post up basement boy. You probably really believe that don't you. Dude, you couldn't wind up your wristwatch without your mommas help much less spin me up. Props to you for thinking you are doing a good job though. lol
[/quote]You're just some douchebag that I'd have never given two thoughts to if it were not for your stubborn defense of the indefensible. I honestly don't gaf about you in the least.
[/quote]

Ask your mom how to correctly quote someone on a BB because you absolutely suck at it. Felt like I was reading computer code to figure out what you were rambling on about. ONCE AGAIN, post up where I EVER defended someone on here. Oh, you forgot how to post a quote so that is like asking the blind to read. Ethan, you just suck and aren't even fun to go back and forth with. You just suck buddy.

He'll need some playdough





Shaped like testicles



HAHAHAHAHA

Ethan, you make no sense and are not even entertaining enough to reply to. I award you no internet points and find you boring at best,

Whatever you say pard. Keep on truckin'.

Seriously, do they not educate you retards in TN or do you guys just keep making up your own narrative in attempt to make it stick. Low T has nothing to do with what your childish brain thinks it does or you wouldn't be spouting this crap out like you think you know. Just makes you look like a backwards inbred hilljack that can't keep up with a serious conversation. What was the last post you made that was actually worth reading? All you do is type, type away like you have something to say, but you really don't do you?

Hey KDouche,
How come 99% of all you posts are on the “hunters campfire” forum?
Not a hunter?
All you are here for is to complain and whine about other people, what a stupid putz.
You offer nothing nada zip zilch.....in other words you are useless.
Just curl up and die already.

You better round up some more "pards" because it just isn't working for you tonight.

There you are Tommy Boy. You should look back through your own posts...pot.

I gotta admit, although I've always considered you a total assmunch Dorf, I never thought you'd resort to sock puppets. What a [bleep] pussy.

91,000 post


Going for 92,000


You can do it scooter!!!

Haha
Most of my posts are in the actual deer,elk, firearms forums.
I come up here to chat with you ladies in the women’s forums.
That’s because I actually shoot and hunt.

You crafty bastards have figured me out. You are wiser than you portray and my jig is finally up, SMH, retards.

Just have Dr Ru Paul cut your empty sack off and make your leftovers an "innie"

KDouche,
You sure have something against “retarded” people dont you?
What did they do to you?

Well you are head and shoulders above the rest of us non hunters. I would give you a hand but I just don't think you deserve it Tom. Revel us in your hunting adventures and prove your claim.

“I would give you a hand Tom”

I’m not blind I know what you are saying.


I’m not stupid like you.

Is that how you came to be an internet beeeyotch? I don't ever want to be like that. I mean you have a mafia and peoples and stuff.

Don't hijack your own thread assclown

We were talking about your lack of male hormones

Just you Tom, just you.

When you have your sack cut off you could tan it and make yourself a snuff pouch. Use your cords for drawstrings.

And I got you figured out.
Haha you are a non hunter....what a tool
You need to end the 24 hr campfire and go to another site like no nutz are us.

Your mom ain't complaining about the lack of anything...

Oh snap!

That made the plums shrivel a bit.

Is there something you’d like to do about it?

Typical steelhead response,
You two may just be one in the same after all.

Well you sure have Tom. I have never hunted, don't own a gun and don't have a hand in this outdoor thing but hey, you were never figured for a genius.

According to who?

You're an assweasling bitch.

Channel the scott out...exorcise those demons

The mommy jokes are come forth

I knew you could do it

Lmao

Definitely not Tom.

You figgered me out Tommy Boy, I am Steelhead. You definitely ain't stupid. I mean wrong service, wrong state and all but you got me.

You sure sound the same.
Almost like twins.

Weaksauce at best. You could have been like "how about I cut your ears off and wear them around my neck so you have to stare at them everyday" but you went for your favorite lollipop instead.

Tom, you figured me out, I bow to your ability to read sign cuz you nailed it. Where are you going to drive? TN or VA? That will probably screw you up for awhile but you can go to TN and pick up rentagayed to split the gas money so you can still feed your family after your internet dust up.

Oh, you and Ethan share the same mentality but I can tell you are the dumber one of the two.

Speaking of rentagayed, he must be still driving home lol

You seriously sound like you are coming unhinged.
Good thing you don’t own any guns or suicide would be eminent.
You could always overdose, I hear it’s painless.

It was only a 2 hour drive.

Maybe he is in the hospital???? I mean c'mon, you drive anywhere to have an internet fight and you kinda deserve what you get. YMMV

And you wonder why you have problems.

Some people just ain't meant for the Internet.

Backfart, you seem to be his friend, maybe you should call and check on him. J/S...

I called you a cock munching Eunuch probably ten years ago. I was accurate.

One day Tommy, I will be old enough to buy real guns instead of these pellet guns the government oppresses me with but you shouldn;t blast me like that. I am growing.

And who cared?

Obviously, you did. You're et up.

Renegade is fine I'm sure. He likely just has better things to do.

Apparently you?

What “problems” do I have there Kenny?

wishing death on people?

You have how many posts in this thread, what's the purpose?

"Kenny"? You used that name in respect, or just looking for another pissing contest?

Best of luck in the future.

Yup, he's good.

Line of comms open last couple hours with him.

He's watching Semen Flounder founder on this thread.

Wrong lol

Wrong again. Do you tire of being a failure?

After the way you treat people around here I don't know why anyone should give a chit. Too bad it wasn't your neck.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...2875/re-hey-f-troop-in-here#Post12692875

Heeeeeyyy sluggy, get your butt buddy on here to tell his tough guy tale about driving all day and 2 tanks of gas to have an internet fight. I mean, that is waaaayy badass, no?

Not "people" just the F-Troop whom you support. You do anything besides post stupid pictures? Not that it isn't an art form here now but I know it takes a certain amount of skill and you use yours for that dumb picture. And let us be clear, I don't look for anyone to give a schitt about me. I was having an adult conversation when you and your troopers started with the childish BS. Don't get it twisted homey.

Getting in the shower, see if you guys can step up the entertainment value a few notches because truthfully, you guys are kind of boring me to death. Give Tom a hand and he might be able to pull it off.

Enjoy the shower with your retarded dick there KDouche.

It's all been spelled out for you in the loretta lynn thread.

Low T affect your memory and reading comprehension? For you to keep parceling details, it's obvious you gave into the suspense.

Make sure you soak your prostetic phallus is Efferdent so you can start the day fresh tomorrow.




Asshat

Has to get up early and sheeitt; driving a schoolbus and all

Then evening classes at the community college, zaps the last vapors of Testosterone right out of the poor sombitch

Naw, I'm not wrong. Back to your regularly scheduled dickweasling.

I have never heard you complain before so why start now? That time of the month again?

I am in this thread Troop. Keep your unfunny posts in here.

That's me. But I drive the bus like I stole it you old fart.

Boring. You use that phrase too much.

I wouldn't use it so much were it not so descriptive of your actions cock swiller.

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? So now you are trying to be cool using hom-erotic language? That was pretty cool, like in 6th grade.

Don’t know you tell me.
Your the one with way too high estrogen levels remember?

No even close Doctor Tommy Boy but keep selling it like it is your medical opinion.

I wouldn't call you gay, just because you like holding a cock in your mouth.

Talk about Steelhead-ish. BOOOOORING!!!!! Steelhead=EE. EE=Steelhead. F u c k you Tommy Boy, I figgered it out for realz.

You kiss your momma with that mouth retard?

You're just jealous I found the real Steelhead sock puppet and he is your butt buddy. LOL

I don't "support" anybody. I just think you're a chit starting little bitch looking for attention.

In other words....a troll.

You just took idiot of the year.

Ksmith was sighted at our local gun show.

Hahaha

Poopsie the sh itzoo in the stroller

Lmao

Hahaha!

Looks more like a stained face malti-poo
Hahaha!!!

That chyt is like permanent man card revocation stuff
with no reinstatement or appeal process ever........
Dude in the green shirt is like thinking to himself
"Man I wish this mofo would get the fugg away from my table, I don't need this chyt".

Gunshow Table dude is like, "whatever it is he wants to buy, ain't worth it,".

KSmith your inadequacies are well documented here for the world to see. Instead of acting like a tough guy why don’t you regale all of us with a hunting story. Humors me and start with the one about your secret squirrel stalk that lead to the bob lee swagger bragging worthy 111yd shot with a 110 tsx from your .270.

I would invite you to go outside and play a nice game of hide and go phück yourself but well yeah probably wouldn’t work huh limp dick.

Ferd the turd, thanks to you and the rest of my nutswingers for thinking about me.


I don't know what crack you have been smoking but I don't recall ever acting like a tough guy. I think you have me confused with one of my nutswingers that drove all day to fight some other guy on here. You really reached deep down into your inner retard to come up with that post huh? Tough guy, secret hunting, BLS??

Can’t we all just get along?

apparently not....

Rent free from this thread too!!!
In your head Ksmith pounding a 2x4 inside your skull.
You will go to your grave decades from now whoever you are.
And I will be rent free still in your head.
From the everlasting world of 1,s and 0,s.....
I will Btt this thread when I'm 75 in 20 years
Just for schits and giggles.

LMFAO!!!!



Btt for now for everyone's reading enjoyment....

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Rent free since Jan 24, 2018....

1's and 0's, remember.