https://www.foxnews.com/politics/defense-secretary-james-mattis-resignation-letter

George Washington warned against “systems of entangling alliances.” After 40 years of service, I concur that’s its time to move General Mattis to the pasture. He needs to rub elbows with everyday Americans again so he can get to know us.

The wheels seem to be coming off.

The man is retiring. There are plenty of qualified replacement with the energy to continue.

Yeah, the "wheels" are coming off of the deep state military industrial.complex plans designed to keep our country in a perpetual state of war.

We need to worry about SECURING OUR OWN BORDERS for a change.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

You left wingers never give up hope.

Trump is dismantling the pathetic legacy of your former Homo-in-chief and his Demonrats.LOL

Interesting that all you have to do is disagree with Trump on one or two topics and you get branded, “Liberal”. Aint so.

Fight to win, or go home. Scorched earth. If we don't want to do that, then we shouldn't be there. There is nothing in that crap hole including the people that don't want to be like us, worth our continued blood or treasure. Our only mistake was not turning that place to glass after 9/11. and coming home in 2 months. But the military complex is big business.

I have the utmost respect for Gen. Mattis and his lifetime of service to this country. I also believe that he’s doing the right thing by resigning. He’s a war dog and war dogs need war and can always justify war. We elected the President because of his promises to untangle ourselves from ridiculous “wars” and increase border security. If any of the President’s appointees don’t want to go along with the President’s agenda they absolutely should step down and that’s what Gen. Mattis did. He wants us to stay in Syria and Afghanistan and he wants us to increase the number of troops there which is in direct conflict with the agenda of the people and the agenda and promises of the President.

There’s plenty of good and honorable men like Gen. Mattis that will fill that important role. Whoever does fill that position will have to support the agenda of the President as dictated by the will of those that voted for him. Those that didn’t vote for President Trump can go [bleep] themselves.....simple as that. I don’t give a flying rats ass about the liberals and pusssies that don’t support border security, a wall or us finally ceasing to be the worlds policemen.

You've got BeanMan confused with someone else.

Wow! Paranoia from the 1960's.

I've wondered what took him so long to resign.

He served his country a long time!

Unfortunately it's the standard response, usually from people who can't come up with anything else.

Good post Aces. Time will tell whether pulling out now was the right thing to do.

Pulling out of Syria will create a vacuum of influence. Russia and Turkey will be looking to "work the neighborhood". All the talk about not being the world's policeman is fine - but you must realize if the decision backfires - the next action may not be something you will like. Certainly, time will tell - but are we ready to accept what that will be?

I agree, always listen to men of military experience like Mattis.

I say good bye. Time to move on, away from the constant tax dollar sucking wars. He can throw a fit and step down, dont really care. I'm as right as they come, but I'm tired of the endless wars and putting our fine troops in harms way. Bring em home and secure our home land!!

Before anybody forgets--Generals don't start wars--politicians do.

What's the upside, it's our blood and our money. It will always be a chithole, even in a 1000 years.

He's an old fart. Time to step down and bring in a younger man.

The bags under his eyes look like nut sacs.

Leaving the remaining Christians to the tender mercies of the Russians and Turkey especially Turkey just wiped them out! But I guess that is the price to be paid if you don't go all out to win
as the previous President did. Cheers NC

Anybody that achieved a high rank throughout the Bush and Obama years probably believes in what Bush and Obama considered "sound policy."

It was inevitable.

How many times do we have to hear this bullschit and still believe it?

It's either important, or it ain't.

There is no vacuum in Syria. Putin will continue to prop up Assad. Assad will rule where he can with an iron fist.

ISIS is basically finished, we don't dare to move on Assad because of Putin (even if removal of Assad was still a goal - it's not today).

WTF are we doing there? Stabilizing what? Keeping the Kurds happy? Who are the Kurds in all this? (Gus question)

Answer this: With no defined goal, how long do we stay and waste money? Been in Afghanistan 16-17 years by now and have accomplished just what in the last dozen? If the Taliban is going retake that country, does it matter if they do it 2019 or 2029? Afghanis will either fight them or bow down to them. All we can do is delay that end.

With fracking, very soon we will not need a drop of ME oil. What are we doing there at this point except dicking around?

Pulling out may have unpleasant consequences but staying most certainly does.


So how long is long enough?

Exactly.

And if we truly need oil there's plenty just south of us and plenty in lots of easily taken places. So fugkin' take or STFU.

So, whers the love, hatari, for the deep state coffiers who owns the military industrial complex McLame and Bush loved so much?

Trump's got a big ego. Mattis' got a big ego.

One of them had to go.

General Mattis, I think you for your outstanding service.

Fighting a perpetual war without a defined strategy for victory is naive at best and foolish or outright deceptive at worst. The US has not fought an offensive war with the intention of winning since WW II, and even then we gave too much consideration to our so-called allies who actually deserve to be speaking German today. We've been sucking at the political and strategic side of warfare since Korea and we still can't seem to figure it out.

If it's not worth pursuing a scorched earth policy of warfare, then it's not a good enough reason to send our troops and resources in and put them at risk.

The only way to keep Iran, and Saudi and Russia and Turkey out of Syria is to stay there. Forever.

There used to be a compelling reason for the US to dedicate two or three carrier groups to the Middle East --- oil. Now that we have good access to our own crude, the people that need the oil (the rest of the world) can start paying the insurance premium for the oil to keep flowing.......

I don't think Mattis was ever comfortable in Trump's administration.

They had their day in the sun, and accomplished what?

At one time, I thought going into Iraq would work out I thought the Iraqis were well enough educated, well enough culturally advance, and sufficiently supressed by the Sadaam regieme that they would embrace a Western style democracy and flourish. Wrong! Only country in the Middle East that has proven they can come close to doing it is Israel.

No need these days to protect vital oil interests for the stability of the economy of the world. Frack the scheit out of oil here, and we'll export it at a healthy price. Screw Achmend, Mohammed, and the asorted towel heads.

Any man that old with sleeve tattoos is over the top....

So when do you expect Trump to announce an abrupt exit from the 17 yrs in Afghanistan?...

Trump increased US troops in Afghanistan from 10,000 to 15,000 but no word of when they be coming home.

5000+ US troops currently in Iraq, when is Trump bringing them home?

US withdrawal from Syria will involve around 2000 specialised troops...but that is not to say that clandestine
OPs involving US troops will cease.



The Kurds are responsible for most of the success against islamic state.
Kurds are also the people that the US signed an agreement to take away and deny them a country of their own,
the Trump admin continues a foreign policy of a united Iraq at the expense of the Kurds.

Turkey, Syria , Iraq and Iran have lands that once belonged to the Kurds, and successive US admins are in agrreement
with those nations to keep it that way.



The muslim Kurds were and still are instrumental in providing many christians protection and safe haven.

But Trump recently got off the phone with Erdogan- and agreed to clear the space of US troops so Turkey can
take decisive hard ball action against the Kurds.



The vital combined world commerce/trade that goes through the middle east shipping lanes is enormous,
.. oil is but a fraction of that...the US objective is to keep shipping lanes out of Iranian/Russian control, hence why Trump
[ like several previous presidents] supports the September 11 conspirator wahhabi terrorist Saudis so much.

despite Trumps talk of bringing back jobs to USA, Ivanka Trump still has her products made in China with an army of Chinese workers
and the containers of designer label junk shipped across the oceans, so I'm sure daddy will continue to look after her interests.

63 million AMERICANS elected Trump not Mattis.

If Mattis won't do the job WE THE PEOPLE hired Trump to get done then its time to go.

Thanl you for your service, enjoy your extremely high level of living in retirement from all the money you'll make on your book and speaking tours.

In a lot of ways, I can empathize with Mattis. I grew up with father that was a bit Trumpish. He was self-made. He was constantly dealing and winning and he did it solely by the seat of his pants. I was a rational loyal dedicated type of son. Much of what went on in my Dad's head was inexplicable, especially to my Dad. He just had a nose for successful outcomes.

He was prone to pivoting on the spur of the moment. It came from having a very active mind that was constantly weighing a vast array of options. He talked in a shorthand of his own making and seldom completed sentences unless he was really, really concentrating on you. I remember one interaction on a Sunday afternoon.

"I suppose if we went first thing tomorrow. . . " he said.

That was out of nowhere. I knew instinctively what he meant. It came from there being a Liberty Tire ad in the Sunday Enquirer that had cheap snow tires on sale. It came from a short discussion we'd had a couple months ago about snow tires. I had the day off on Monday, and he was offering to go with me to Liberty Tire so that I could put new snow tires on my car.

I mentioned this interaction to my mother later, marveling that I'd been able to pick up on his line of thinking. "I have to be damn near telepathic with the man," she replied. "That's just to figure out what he wants for dinner."

You had to be quick-witted with my father, otherwise he'd clam up on you. If you agreed with him on something, he might pivot on your agreement and go the other way. If you disagreed with him, he might dig his heels in. It was better just to nod and let his brain work it out. He never took notes, unless it was a phone number, but he could remember a conversation from 5 years previous, or the details of building he'd built 2 decades ago. He remembered names of lumber yard workers that he'd last met in his teens. With all that floating around in his head, he was able to model vast amounts of data and weigh his options continuously.

I feel for a guy like Mattis.

He has probably seen more [bleep] and dealt with more [bleep] than you will ever see.
Perhaps this is what caused the bags under his eyes.
How many men have your commanded and been responsible for?
Respect is good.

All Draft Dodgers seem to be ambivalent toward military men. They make use of them when it’s to their advantage but never trust them because the idea of a “ higher loyalty “ is foreign to the Draft Dodger.

Trump wanted” His Generals “ at the start of his administration to give him cover while he was trying to learn about the military.Then he started discarding them. It will be interesting to see if he lets Dunford serve out his term.

So many are saying that Mattis had to leave because he was a "warmonger". Yet, John Bolton is still around and he's much worse.

So the Christians would be better off if Assad would be overthrown?

In the business world, it is pretty much expected to see people come and go, but this is not the business world. There has been such a huge turnover rate in the Trump administration, and while some of it was probably a good thing, I can't see that all of it has been.


My thoughts have always been that we should never have gotten as fully involved in the Middle East as we did in the first place. Espicially so in Afghanistan, as history should have taught us that foreign powers have never done well there. I've no real problem in pulling our ground troops out of the Middle East, as I think it was a mistake to send them there in the first place. But, I also believe that Mattis is much better equipped to know the current situation than Trump is.

We were told that Trump was this genius that always surrounded himself with the smartest people on the planet, and that's how he became so successful. But, as president, he doesn't let those people stick around long enough for us to know anything about them. Who knows, maybe that's the plan.

This reminds me of Vietnam in 1967. All the great generals, Maxwell Taylor and his buddies, "The Best and the Brightest," assured us that we just needed a few thousand more troops over there, and a few more months of combat, and we would win!

And that GD Iraq war started by the ninny George Bush Jr and President Cheney. The Generals loved that war, why, we whipped Saddam's ass in just 6 weeks! A great little war!
And without dictator Saddam, who hated Muslim radicals and would not allow them into Iraq, Iraq has become a hotbed for Muslim radicals.
What a disaster.

And now the great Generals tell us that we have to keep fighting in Syria. Give me a break!
What is funny to me, is to see the reaction of the media to withdrawal from this Godforsaken war. In 1969, all major media hated the Vietnam War and always criticized Nixon for not getting us out.
NBC and ABC hated the Iraq War, and they hated Bush Jr. and they wanted us out.

But now that it is Trump who has ended a war, the media thinks it is a terrible idea! Really it is funny watching the media flip flop in their long held beliefs, and anything that Trump does, the media declares it a disaster.

Trump used Mattis to to put together the plan to refit and rebuild the military after nearly 2 decades of continuous deployment and action. Our military has a bunch of worn out equipment from HumVees to aircraft and everything in between. We don't have the material to engage a first class opponent. We will will once again soon.

Trump used Mattis to twist arms in Europe and to bitch slap our "allies" into coughing up there share of NATO expenses.

Those major points have been accomplished and crossed off the list. Mattis did his job. Next thing it appears on Trumps Defense list is to stop dicking around wasting money, energy, resources and people in the ENDLESS tar baby that is the Middle East. Bush 43 proved we can't effectively transplant Western Democracy there.

Obama proved you can destabilize the area rapidly by meddling

Putin has proved that he will back Assad against not only the wishes to remove him by the US, but France and GB wanted him gone too. He's not going anywhere.

Trump would have Iran at the breaking point IF Europe would follow the sanctions 100%. ISIS is 90% done with.

You people PLEASE look at the broader picture for once int your lives. What does all this cheap oil production really mean globally? I'm talking beyond filling up your F-150?

Greater production in the US, which fracking is bringing on strong, increased production by the Saudis has seen oil fall under $50/bbl. A few years ago it was over $100/bbl. Who suffers the most from that? Let me clue you in - Iran and Russia. Yes, Putin suffers because oil is his only money making export and his oil is expensive to produce. The Ayatollahs can only be effectively toppled in a grass roots counter revolution, and the people need to be fed up tot he point where they ALL take to the streets. Bankrupt Iran by cutting their oil money in half, and you get closer to that end every day.

Trumps things to do list

Screw with Putin - check. Keep on fracking. Ship Natural gas to Europe

Screw with Iran - Check. See above. Call Eurowennies and tell them to honor sanctions

Cut Military spending in the Middle East - WTF are doing still there? Bring them home.

Get money for Border Security - Threaten Veto

Fix NAFTA - check. Did it

Turn back Caravan - check. Didn't let the phoucers in. Gave Mexico some cash to sort them out on that side and send them back.

Bump stock ban - Dems will get that anyway sooner or later. Throw them a poorly worded Executive Order and let the courts overturn it. Bump stocks are POS anyway. You can still get a CL III and go legit fully auto.



Sorry to digress - back to Mattis. Sounds like Mattis and Trump disagree. That's fine. Mattis seems to know that 'the Boss is the Boss" and doesn't want to follow the boss in this, so h's going. They are handling it like adults, Trump thanked him for his hard work, time to move on.

In politics, a President comes to Washington with a list of things they want to work on. If any President accomplishes even part of 15-20% of things on that list in his first 2 years, that is major. Congress isn't there to rubber stamp things UNLESS, like in the case of Obama, that the list of things to accomplish COMES FROM Congress (Harry Reid in the case of Obama) and it is the President (Obama) that rubber stamps them.

After the initial run at the agenda, the mission changes. The President usually has gotten everything he can get. Time to redo the mission, and time for new blood to help.

This is the problem................no real continuity or consistency & besides, an image projected that screams "we don't know WTF we are doing" & perception is extremely important.

Poor perception of stability leads to a lot of voters on the fence moving off in the wrong direction..................it's not the core supports, but those that are needed to continue holding office in all pieces of government.

MM

"The president defied the suggestions of his generals on Syria."

How does a president defy a suggestion.

The American people put Trump in power to make these decisions. No one voted for the generals.

Fox News is ate up with the neocon disease.

Trump being president is a gigantic departure from the norm, and a departure voted for by the American people. Naturally, when a president is perceived as being an enemy of the established corrupt powers that be - the deep state - he is going to have instability, because the swamp will then be determined to make instability the norm, and the swamp is deeply entrenched.

Bingo!

And how could Generals offer anything other than suggestions to a CIC?

And I doubt that “ a majority of the American people “ believe that Trump knows more than the Generals about military matters.

Bone spurs...? Yeah I’ll admit that he probably knows more about them than the Generals.

Tweeting..? Yeah..gotta give him that one also.

Well said, and exactly right.

Exactly. Assad is the protector of Christians within his borders. It's the folks the neocons support who are the threat to them.

Should ask the Christians in Iraq and Libya how it worked out for them.

People want strong leadership. Not waffling

YOU can't win elections without. Your strong base

I could care less what Belgium Korea France think of our country. Obama's foreign policy was based what Europe thought of our actions. Europe is falling apart now as a result of breixit and uncontrolled immigration

It's a new world

Yep.

When your enemies are cheering, you made a mistake.....

Who's cheering? Naturally, Syrians would be happy that we've stopped supporting Muslim extremist terrorists within their borders.

Mattis left because Trump was disrupting the status quo,...which is what he was elected to do.

“ A wise man does not discard something of value unless he has something of equal or better value to replace it “.

From Ruarks book, “ Something of value “. According to him it is an old Swahili proverb. But... what do they know?

There's nothing of value in letting the tail wag the dog. That's been America's status quo for quite some time.

Now,..if John Bolton would step down also.

Just about everyone in Washington that is establishment is sweating bullets because Trump has turned the status quo on it's head and is actually getting things done. Longtime politicians are abandoning ship and that is fine although a lot are being replaced with democrats thanks to an anemic public. How easily we forget why we voted him in the first place.

It's not easy to shrink government. It is totally against the mission of government. The entrenched political leftists will fight to the death to undermine his administration. Obama made good on his promise to grow the government. Lots of people are dependent on their government salaries and perks. Mattis is just one of a long list of establishment political wonks that are evacuating. history will judge Trump like his predecessors and I believe it will be kind to him.

The 2020 elections are coming up and it will start all over again. The onslaught of liberal leftist money playing with the election. The illegal votes and the false accusations. Keep the faith and vote your conscience. We have a long way to go.

Mass resignations of numerous officials should be a red flag, but Trumpsters eat whatever the orange man puts on the spoon. "Open up yuge!" He must be draining the swamp. Playing 4D chess.

No, he's a retard and so are his idiot supporters.

Terrifying.

I am Canadian, very conservative and card carrying
It is amazing how both sides of these issues don't mingle a tad.
Yup, I know you will bring our embarrassment of a prime minister but he will be ejected next year.
I just don't see why Trump supporters want a complete teardown of the incumbant political system.
Other countries only wish they had this opportunity to talk with each other.
I wish you well, and will be watching.Keep , God in it.

,...because it's been corrupted beyond redemption. Canada's has also,...although it might not be quite as evident, yet.

Toronto controls national politics in Canada. Toronto is the Canadian California.

I am an American with a business in Canada ( I live here too) While I cant speak for everyone, I think the reason most of us want the system torn down and rebuilt is that it is simply not working. The corruption in DC is so far off the rails the only possible way to right the ship, is to sink it and start over. I follow politics as close as anyone, but even a cursory look will illuminate how broken it is. They cant get anything done. The deficit is almost at the point of no return.....It will take a DJT or someone like him to fix things if it can even be fixed. They are systematically taking God out of it day by day too

So Is it mass or is it just numerous?I need to know how terrified I should be.

That^^^^^

Plus the fact that not only are his supporters RETARDS, they are IDIOTS too.

Why don't you lay out your plan for the ME, short-term & what is going to happen there over the next 5-10 years or so?

It would be really nice to stick our heads in the sand & just pretend that the rest of the world doesn't exist & that we don't, now or ever, have to deal with it.......................so c'mon, Big Boy, lay it all out for all us other dumb asses.

MM

I like Trump, I liked Reagan, I walk lock step with neither.

Moron, Obama had five (5) Chief of Staff. his cabinet was large chosen for him by Harry Reid and the Democratic Party. HRC as Sec of State was a brokered deal to get her support in 2008. John Kerry was next, given the Sc of State position as a lifetime achievement award. Rest of the cabinet was picked to fill out race and gender quotas. The only one that chosen for a specific mission was EricHolder, whose job it was to punish white conservatives.

Be gone with your troll self!

Let me add that Trump comes in as a CEO with priorities and a plan of his own, whereas Obama was another "accidental" candidate, encourage to run by Harry Reid to fill out the Primary field against HRC in 2008 just make the race look legit. HRC is so despised even by Dems, she lost, and OMG, this do nothing one term Senator/Community Organizer ends up as President with the help of the Kennedy election machine.

He was told in no uncertain terms that he, Obama, was going to do the bidding of teh House and and Senate Dem Leadership, period. they were the king makers.

In Trump, you have a strong leader with his own vision, and not the vision of the establishment. Obama was going to go along to get along. Lounge around in his blue jeans, Topsiders, and Polo shirts, and read the teleprompter when directed. Trump is the one calling the shots instead of taking orders. The other might have a different agenda. Your boy Obama was a Party lackey, and did wha t he was told, so little controversy.

The fact this moron is terrified, assures me this was the right call

Trum handed a gift to Russia, Iran and Syria. I wonder what the consequences of this will turn out to be.

On Fox and Friends this AM one of the hosts said "trump just re-founded ISIS" and I think we will have to go back in a few years.

I mean no disrespect to you, but bullshciet!

Putin has made it plain for years that he will not allow the US, France or GB to take out Assad. They are strong allies. The area that Assad controls will remain stabile, and he is likely to increase his sphere of control. There will be no vacuum. Assad and Putin have not allowed a vacuum to form. ISIS is done for. If they get uppity, let Putin bomb them. We've been in Iraq for 15 years. Time for them to fish or cut bait. Iran is on the brink of counter Revolution. Have you or any of these talking heads seen what has happened to their economy through sanctions? Their currency is chitt right now. If Europe would back the sanctions 100%, the Ayatollahs would be on their knees soon enough. The people would rise from the streets en masse. That is likely to happen as Iran has seen it's oil money devalued by half as the world oil market has dipped below $50/bbl in a strategic move by Trump to get American oil production cooking and he got the Saudis to increase production. We have a world wide glut of oil and the 2 countries that hurts the most are Russia - who has expensive oil and as its only exports, and Iran.

That "news" you see on CNN and what you saw on Fox is utter crap in this instance. I'm not saying that their won't be some unpleasant repercussions in bringing home our troops, but damn Sam, 15 years in Iraq? 17 in Afghanistan? 5 in Syria? Screw that!

ISIS was a CIA/Mossad created organization. The reason it has dwindled to near nothing under Trump is that he wouldn't allow its continued funding and arming by the CIA. Since he will continue to deny it funding and supply, it will continue to dwindle.

Fox News, except for a couple of personalities there, is 100% neocon. Apart from that handful of personalities, you won't get anything but neocon propaganda when it comes to foreign relations.

TRh and Bristoe never fail to amaze w/ their deep, insider knowledge of how the world really is.


mike r

Get informed.

It seems to me from a reasonable review of all even remotely plausible sources the main beating being delivered to ISIS was coming from the Syrians and Russians, not from us. Us leaving should just make it easier for them to finish the job.

First,..tell me how America has benefited by 17 continuous years of war in the Middle East.

Aliyah,.....Delta is ready when you are.

I want us out of all the BS wars the establishment has gotten us into over the last 70 years. Your never going to change the middle east NEVER There will never be peace and there never has been. That crap over there has been going on since before recorded time and will continue until they all kill each other. Which I would like to see. We've got enough to protect North America. Screw the rest of them, let them fight their own battles instead of killing our best. Protect our own borders, bring the troops home, and watch the debt go away.

You two are gems. 1st TRH tells me to get informed and links me to a Dem congress slut from Hawaii who spews info gained from a personal meeting w/ Assad. Then you imply, not for the 1st time, that I am jewish. The fact I believe that Holocaust Deniers and One world conspiracy theorists are idiots does not make me a jew. Nor does my heritage. Though I would rather be a joo than an ignorant "oracle"

You guys are fun to have around.


mike r

Did Tucker seem to agree or disagree with her assessment?

,...and you try to convince people that what they see isn't real,....when you know it is.

KOTY alert...

That's a gem.

It doesn't make you a jew, it makes you an old retard.

Gutlie Schnaper Rothschild said if her sons wanted no wars there would be none.

McCain died a multi multi millionaire with 8 mansions due the benevolence of her beloved military industrial complex.

What are the Rothschikds worth- $400 trillion, and now Graham is calking for hearings on Trumps plan to pull out of Syria. I guess he likes the big green too.

Quite the competition this year. The field is dense with potential so it's not a surprise that past winners are stepping up the insanity.

Post preserved to ensure TRH sees it so he can counter with an even better one....

$400 trillion...that be gangsta money right there.


mike r

So, no plan, eh? Just a rhetorical question?

MM

It's not rhetorical at all. You want more war in the Middle East. You should be able to point to how America has benefitted from 17 years of it to think that it should continue.

If I failed to garner your vote, I'd be insulted.

I voted for Trump. But at some point, you have to be a realist and take a deep breath and look at the reality of the situation. There have been an awful lot of good quality people that have turned their backs and run in the other direction from this President. As much as I want a leader that will finally start to address our real problems (spiraling healthcare costs, fiscal responsibility, immigration reform, Social security reform, trade reform etc. etc.), Trump is not the one for that task. the republican party has proven to be an equal set of fools with no proven leadership or direction. I've lost all confidence in either political party. I've been a registered republican since I've started voting, but today I decided it's time to break the blind allegiance and try to figure out how we get this cart out of the ditch. I'll never vote democrat, after watching their debauchery the past 2 years, but I also won't stand for the current state of affairs with the Republicans and will choose another path.

Ummm, congratulations on finally realizing the Republican party doesn't stand for the constitution or conservative values... they simply pander to us for votes

These so called good quality people you refer to, how do you know they aren't simply swamp creatures?

Trump isn't perfect but he is the best we have, he is fighting for working class Americans. I believe it is a mistake to compare him to traditional politicians.....

Best response yet. Made my day!!

Honorable mention.

Never said we were benefited; question is are we better of out or not. It's really more of a question of how are we better off. in or out.

You obviously believe we are, so just tell us now what the plan going forward is?

Stick our heads iin the sand, pretend that the ME is not there, or it's there but there's no impact on us & it will just go away.....................whatever, just tell us what your plan would be now that we are "out".

Simple.................just tell us your plan for what we should do.

MM

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Let's set the record straight. For as long as I've been alive, I've listened to people that wish for businessman, a non - politician to run for and win the presidency. it finally happened. A business man will not sound like a politician, act like a politician, or govern like a politician because they are NOT politicians.

That's what we have. Politicians make mistakes. Trump will make his, but they will be different than typical. He will do things different than typical. He is not the same old, same old schmuck.

What other path do you have in mind. Go Democrat? Right!! do for it Big Boy. Go big "L" Libertarian and throw your vote away. go for it and leave the rest of us alone to continue the fight against the Left while you dream of a free, intellectual Utopia where free men share common values universally, and no one wants the government to control society. note that "L"ibertarians are most often men. Older men. not many women.

Try to win an election on that, bubba.


Have you taken no notice that the GOP just pruned 41+ RINOs out of the House? That include Paul phoucing Ryan. Have you not noticed that the GOP shed Senators Flake, Corker and McCain, yet picked up 2 seats in the Senate? You've lost faith in the GOP, yet the GOP is reorganizing WITHOUT YOUR NOTICE OR APPLAUSE, and is emerging more conservative and more inline with the President? Can you not see 1 step back for 2 steps ahead?

You are disappointed that you haven't gotten your ENTIRE wish list in less than 23 months of Trump? How about the idea that game is hardly over? Maybe the fight goes on and on. Does it look like Trump is given up on the Wall? How about the latest court ruling on Obamacare. trump taking the tax out of it changed the courts opinion. were you one of the idiots that were bitch about Trump not dealing with Obamacare? Congress wouldn't do it, but Trump found a way.

This phoucing short sightedness has pissed me off this week. that's my problem. I can see a bigger picture. My first undergraduate degree is a BA in History. endless discussion, literature research and paper gave me an insight to a large picture. No, I can't always nail it, but I can see beyond today, this week, this instance. Sometimes, and I mean sometimes, I can correlate current events to historical events. At that point, the path becomes obvious. Do I need to quote Georges Santayana here? (look him up for those that never made the 9th grade).

Right now, at this juncture in history, you have 2 paths. you have the Democrats. With that, you get globalization, open borders, gun control, social justice warriors, political correct speech and thought control. Government restrictions, environmentalism, and an unfettered invasion of millions of muslims and latin Americans. Sharia Law coming to a town near you right quick. Is that what you want for the rest of your days? how about for your kinds and grandkids.


Right now, the only thing standing between that reality and YOU, is Donald J. Trump. the Left is not after Trump, they are after you, you privileged White Dude. PHOUC YOU, YOUR GUNS, YOUR BIBLE, AND YOUR WESTERN CULTURE! Columbus came to spread syphilis and rape the wealth of the native people. White Men screwed the native Americans and the black Africans. John McNamara was the White man that sent the Black man to kill the Yellow man in Vietnam. Let the Dems seize power, and you will get a whole lot more of that chitt.

Come on, man, join the fight! Don't puss out when the going gets tough. Did you not expect a full on Spring Offensive as soon as the Dems take the House? You gonna chitt your pants as soon as CNN runs sound bites of Adam Schiff and Gerry Nadler telling the world they will impeach Trump? Trust me, it will happen, but Trump will win re-election in 2020 because globalism and socialism is failing around the word. Look at Europe. Look at Maçron' s mess in French. May over Brexit. Angela Merkel is toast. Italy has gone conservative. look at Victor Orban's massive popularity.


So you are down on the GOP. Boo phoucing Hoo. maybe time to re-assess.

".... Right now, at this juncture in history, you have 2 paths. you have the Democrats. With that, you get globalization, open borders, gun control, social justice warriors, political correct speech and thought control. Government restrictions, environmentalism, and an unfettered invasion of millions of muslims and latin Americans. Sharia Law coming to a town near you right quick. Is that what you want for the rest of your days? how about for your kinds and grandkids.....".

Well, when you put it like that it does sound bad.... apocalyptic level bad. Trump has bought us sometime, up to us how well we us it.

Robert McNamara?

We dont agree on everything...but I sure appreciate Hatari!s posts lately.

No, religious minorities in Syria were protected by secular government of Bashar-Al Assad.

There will be no vacuum. It's easy to determine who gives out cards in that region by following what capital diplomats from Isreal, Turkey, Syria, Iran, go to and have conversations with......Moskwa. I do not understand why you discuss issue US military pull out of Syria. I was not aware actual numbers of US troops in North East Syria have been released to the public. Has something changed?

I believe great American patriot and president Dwight D Eisenhower warned American public of its dangers. It is self lubricating perpetual machine at tax payer expense. Next stop might be a Military Dictatorship.

Correct. One of the big winners are the people of Syria. It remains to be seen whether Assad stays in power and to what extent or will have to move down the bench. This will be determined at "Round Table" like it was solved in Eastern Europe following collapse of the Soviet Empire. Major players in the region travel to Moskva meeting with Vladimir Vladimirovich and Russian diplomatic cops (the best foreign minister in the World Sergei Viktorovich Lavrov) to get as much space at that table as possible. DJT helped by stopping American services from funding and arming opposition in Syria (ie terrorists). The Syrian forces aided by Russian Federation and Iranians did the rest.

Upon rereading, it does ook bad, but that is what they bing to the table. 16 years of Obama/Hillary and a Dem conrol Congress and they could all of that and bury Conservativism for a generation or more and change our culure and the makeup of our country irreversibly.

OTOH, through the SC, Fed court appoints, the push back agaisnt globalization that Europe is joining slowly, a willingess to continue to fight for border control, to conform the NORKS, to isolate the Ayatollahs, to wrestle trade with Xi, to squeeze Putin's econmic structure, i see that Trump can hurt the DemLefists and their plan just as much.

Mattis is gone because Trump is trying to make the progressives happy. Hes trading War for The Art of the Deal. It will work without the NWO in control.

The Mattis letter in a nutshell:

Dear Mr. President:

You know nothing about out friends.

You know nothing about our enemies.

Bye.

No,..the short form of the letter is,

Mr. President,

I was purchased long ago.

I mistakenly assumed that you understood that.

AIPAC says that I can't be a part of your administration any longer.

זייַ געזונט (Zay gezunt)

You're a conspiracy theorist... of course that's your view.

If you learn to listen properly, the mainstream media will tell you all you need to know.

But then,...some people have ears to hear,...some people don't.

You obviously don't.

He's not much of a businessman....

Tillerson was a businessman....

• Columbus came to spread syphilis and rape the wealth of the native people
• White Men screwed the native Americans and the black Africans
• John McNamara was the White man that sent the Black man to kill the Yellow man in Vietnam

which one of those is incorrect?

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.pr...ity-in-the-roiling-trump-admin-1.6767673

After Mattis Quits, Israel Loses an Island of Sanity in the Roiling Trump Administration

BOTH statements are I believe, in error. The SIMPLE issue is General Matti's views differ from what the President wants to do and when one does not agree, one resigns. History is replete with examples. One comes to mind was Lord Randolph Curchill's disagreement with the Prime Minister over spending, so he resigned publicly with a similar letter. This notion General Mattis was "bought" is nonsense. The two thousand men we have in Syria are not moving the issue one way or another, neither are the fifteen thousand we have in Afghanistan for close to EIGHTEEN years. I'm not one to shy away from a "good war" but frankly, the only one we went "all in" on was WWII. The US has screwed up just about every foreign policy endeavor (with the exception of winning the Cold War) we've embarked on. We are just too altruistic.

Spoken exactly like all conspiracy theorists with superior knowledge and insight...

The term "conspiracy theory" was coined by the people who don't want the official narrative questioned.

It's only used by idiots.

But a wise man once said, "People who can't see beyond their noses are to be pitied",....so I'll leave you alone.

ALL THREE.
1. Columbus gave Spain an Empire and civilized the Western Hemisphere, leading to great things like you know, the United States (which appears, you're not a great fan of)
2. Hard to "screw" something that was already screwed up. Slavery, rape, murder and theft were "de facto" practices of the indians and negroes, neither of which had a written language nor a clue as to what the WHEEL was. And even then, after the WHITE MAN left (after giving them things like a common language, infrastructure, etc), it didn't take them long to revert back (do we need a review of what is going on in Africa?)
3. Another commie fake fact. The Vietnam war was fought overwhelmingly by WHITE Americans and BTW, it was the lowest proportion of draftees (25% v 66% for WWII)

Feel free to let me know when you need another history lesson.

Again, spoken like one with a direct connection to the knowledge of God...

Mattis did the right thing.

while most here were always glad to see the us forces in syria, and likely they did save lives, i wasn't so sure it was the best idea. i'm glad trump is pulling the rank & file out. let assad and putin deal with it.

imho, the isis crowd of killers funded and back by the house of saud would have been rolling through the borderlines of the shia persians long before now. but we blocked their advance. and ultimately run them out of iraq and most of syria. i suppose the civil war goes on in syria but is probably going to go to assad to rebuild with russian help.

and so it is. lot's of people and they all have minds of their own. btw, the isis heathens were blocking the re-supply of hezbollah as supported by iran/persia.

but life goes on.

Salute

Warrior Monk

Semper Fi................

Well said

you just need a READING lesson

1. what happened long after Columbus dies is immaterial to the reason he came to the NA and what he did when he got here.
2. killed, stole from, dis-possessed, enslaved....those would be synonyms for screwed. (include rape if you wish)
3. mcnamara/lbj same/same. Not only blacks, but plenty. probably not too many academic deferments granted there, much less bone spur deferments.

You have distorted history here in ways that the Left often does.

1. Columbus was looking for a route to the East Indies. He had no prior intention to "rape the wealth of the native people", but like other conquerors who came into contact with less powerful societies, when he saw an opportunity he acted with force and used the technological resources of his culture to get something of value to him. In this specific case he was looking for a return for his sponsors in Europe. No doubt he was brutal by our modern standards, but what he did was standard for that time. His men did spread diseases from the Old World which the Indians had no resistance to, but this was unintentional.

2. It's true that from the point of view of the indians and the black slaves that they were treated badly by white Americans, but again we are back to a situation that has occurred many times in many places: when powerful expanding cultures come into contact with weaker societies they use force to dominate them. This is a common pattern in human history and is not unique to Europeans or Columbus. Some other examples would include what the Mongols did to other people in their conquests and what the Bantu peoples did when they migrated SE out of the Congo basin and pushed the Khoisan peoples of Southern Africa into the deserts and other sub-optimal areas, sometimes enslaving them.

There are plenty of examples of powerful Indian tribes brutalizing weaker tribes and of course they had slaves. Slavery was not only a worldwide norm at the time of the founding of the US, it was the norm throughout Africa and many African slaves were treated brutally in Africa. And there were far more African slaves in Africa than in North America. Slaves in the US were treated far better than those in the Caribbean and South America. I'm not defending slavery here, but your post implies that only people of European descent do these barbaric things. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the movement to abolish slavery came from Europe and the US.

3. I believe you mean Robert McNamara. As noted above, most US soldiers were white. Again, you are implying that white people are somehow more guilty of treating other peoples badly than non-white peoples. This is simply not true, but because Western Civilization was so dominant technologically there were lots of opportunities for western peoples to dominate other cultures.

Hes out.

What is it about that which some cant unnerstan?

Sheesh. Get over it this month maybe.

Folks like Alex Jones and ilk are a kind of prophet and Messiah to the conspiracy theorists.

their version of the click bait truth is seen as beyond reproach...the likes of rebel 'truth' outlets such as Twitter
would be at a loss without them...lol.

Just like the Jewish mafia controls health care in the U.S. its obvious that the Jews that control
America want the US out of Syria for Israels own strategic advantage in the region...If you don't believe that
then you don't believe Alex Jones is channeling God.

Removed, wrong "person" .

Boomer , you are still butt hurt over Marcus Luttrell, so gullible you actually buy the crapola BS spin in his book.

the Alex Jones cult is right up your alley..
.

Removed. Wrong "person" .

Boomer ,

I didn't say I'm going anywhere, when lies are all you have it shows how desperate you are.

and you like to speak for everybody...when were you elected for such?

anyway, nice to know to I can rock you boat without even trying...

God gawd sorry, had you mixed up with piddler. Not sure that's better or worse but it is what it is.

Well put, jorge.. and if we allow the dems control of our geopolitical, global police endeavors re: Africa, we'll be sending our young men there to die for the next 6 generations.

Ash trays, glass, and silica come to mind.

Oh, you say so, do you?

You really don't have a clue. Keep sucking from the cnn straw.

That is a profoundly stupid post presented by an ignorant bigot. You denigrate a brilliant man who has served his country in he worst of times and is revered by those he led into battle. Were you to be labeled a 'conspiracy theorist' you should be happy as that would be an upgrade.


mike r

The GOP Senators mentioned in the following paragraph are owned, also.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/21/trump-republicans-congress-support-1074186

It was a different story among some congressional Republicans. In a letter sent to the president Wednesday, six senators called his decision to pull out of Syria “a premature and costly mistake” that “threatens the safety and security of the United States.” Four Republican senators signed the letter: Marco Rubio, Tom Cotton, Joni Ernst, and Lindsey Graham. Cotton, Ernst and Graham have all been close Trump allies during his first two years in office. (The conservative Maine independent Sen. Angus King also signed.)

I think you and I may be in violent agreement on the facts.

The original poster was implying those statements weren't true. (and made a hash of McNamara's first name)

Bastids are pissed hes draining the sawmp.

Rino worried Syria is crumbling and not worried about our nation and its borders crumbling. Oh, an unnamed senator no less. Well, who woulda guessed.

Meanwhile, how 'bout that stock market, eh??

He kinda brought his own "sawmp" with him.

They are kind of falling away. How many indictments is he up to?

And the integrity guys are stepping down.

If you think Tillerson was a "businessman" and "not a politician," you don't know how the corporate world operates. Tillerson was instrumental in bringing in homosexual leadership into the Boy Scouts, which is proving to be their "Waterloo." (Mattis had a chance to rid our military of sexual deviates, and return to a "don't ask, don't tell" policy, that had worked for decades. Instead he solidified the Obama policy of open sexual deviation in our military, which will eventually be our own "Waterloo.")

Now Trump is a businessman, who put his own capital at risk to build a thriving business. Big difference. Not politically correct,

edited for Christmas.

Merry Christmas everybody!

Did I miss it ?? The wild card, Israel.

I wonder if Israel is about to come unglued on Syria and Lebanon ? Iran has been saturating Lebanon and parts of Syria with Hamas and Hezbollah fighters and it seems to get uglier every day. Now may be the right time to get out of the way and let Israel take the lead for a while. No Americans could get caught up in the scrap if they are all gone.

kwg

I was thinking the same thing kwg . . . not that I have done any in depth study or reading on the situation, but Trump and BeBe are close friends and allies in this fight . . . I wouldn't put it past them both to have set the schedule for the departure of U.S. troops. You can be sure the Iranians have not missed this developing situation either.