HPD Chief Acevedo says narcotics cop committed likely crime by lying in affidavit for deadly raid
An internal Houston police investigation has uncovered alarming deficiencies in the department's narcotics division that led to an allegedly falsified search warrantused to justify a southeast Houston drug raid last month that killed two Pecan Park residents and injured five officers, according to documents obtained Friday by the Houston Chronicle.
In a hastily called press conference, Police Chief Art Acevedo said Gerald Goines, the veteran narcotics case agent at the center of the controversy, will likely face criminal charges. The internal investigation revealed he allegedly lied about using a confidential informant to conduct an undercover buy at the residence on Harding Street. The buy led to a raid and a fatal gunfight at the house the next day, killing Dennis Tuttle, 59, and Rhogena Nicholas, 58, and injuring five Houston Police Department officers.The debacle, which has infuriated officers across the department and which critics say has damaged public trust in HPD, and infuriated members of the department's rank-and-file, also prompted Acevedo to order an "extensive audit" of the 175-member narcotics division and an examination of Goines' recent cases.
"We know that there's already a crime that's been committed," Acevedo said. "It's a serious crime when we prepare a document to go into somebody's home, into the sanctity that is somebody's home. It has to be truthful, it has to be honest, it has to be factual. We know already there's a crime that's been committed. There's high probability there will be a criminal charge."
Houston Police Officers' Union President Joe Gamaldi said that while he was "extremely concerned and disturbed" by the allegations that came to light Friday, they were "not indicative" of the performance of the rest of the department's 5,200 officers. He pledged to back any reforms needed to avoid similar misconduct in the future.
"We certainly feel this is an isolated incident," he said. "However, we will certainly support any review or changes to policy that need to be made in order to ensure that something like this never happens again."
The critical allegations were outlined in a sworn affidavit written by HPD Officer R. Bass, with the department's Special Investigations Unit, who asked a judge for a search warrant to examine the cell phone of officer Steven Bryant, an undercover narcotics officer relieved of duty after the shooting.
The Chronicle normally does not publish the names of undercover officers, but Goines and Bryant were identified in an affidavit related to a search warrant and both have been relieved of duty by Acevedo.
In the initial HPD warrant, Goines wrote that he monitored a buy at the home by a confidential informant, who identified the substance that was purchased as heroin and said there was a 9mm handgun in the house. Police obtained a no-knock warrant —allowing them to enter unannounced — and burst into the small southeast home the next day to a hail of gunfire.
At the end of the shootout, both Tuttle and Nicholas had been shot to death, and five officers were injured — four by gunfire. Police found 18 grams of marijuana — about half an ounce — and a little more than a gram of white powder, but no heroin or trafficking paraphernalia. After the fatal operation, neighbors pushed back on assertions by police the residence was a drug house.
HPD investigators have not been unable to locate the confidential informants who Goines claimed — in two separate interviews — made the undercover purchases at the Pecan Park home, according to Bass' affidavit.
When detectives talked to the informants, both said they'd worked for Goines but never purchased drugs at the 7815 Harding home where Tuttle and Nicholas were killed. Investigators then got a full list of Goines' confidential informants, and they all denied making a buy at the Tuttle house or ever purchasing narcotics from Nicholas or Tuttle.
Bryant told investigators he had retrieved two bags of heroin from the center console of Goines' police car at the instruction of another officer. That was not consistent with the affidavit used to obtain the warrant for the Jan. 28 raid, which said Bryant identified heroin brought out of the house. Though he took the two bags of drugs for testing to determine that they were heroin, Bryant eventually said he had never seen the narcotics in question before retrieving them from the car.
Investigators are reviewing Goines' past cases, Acevedo said, adding that he's assigned Assistant Chief Pedro Lopez to take a broader look "to make sure that we're not being myopic, that we look at our entire narcotics operation out there, in terms of the street level units, and they'll be conducting a very extensive audit."
The allegations of false information used to conduct a raid that led to the death of two residents and left five officers injured further stunned and angered residents. It marked one of most significant cases of police misconduct within the narcotics division in decades.
People died and were injured as a result of the cop's illegal activity. If I were one of the cops that got injured because of his lie, I'd rattle his [bleep] teeth loose.
People died and were injured as a result of the cop's illegal activity. If I were one of the cops that got injured because of his lie, I'd rattle his [bleep] teeth loose.
Decent cops are justifiably furious over this.
Our Constitution provides civil rights to protect us from govt. There are conditions when these are allowed, such as search warrants. When the ones that are supposed to be enforcing the laws are the ones breaking them and violating our Constitution, it causes distrust in the ones that are following the rule book, and trying to take the real bad guys out.
I'll lump in those sorry, POS, SOB's that lied to the FISA Court to obtain illegal warrants as well.
It is very clear that the Justice System... isn't anymore.
This deal sounded like a frame up from the git go. The surprising aspect is that the cover up was unsuccessful.
A couple of days ago, an unarmed guy was charged with murder because one cop shot another while shooting at the unarmed guy. Let that sink in and then compare that outcome with what is likely to happen here.
This deal sounded like a frame up from the git go. The surprising aspect is that the cover up was unsuccessful.
A couple of days ago, an unarmed guy was charged with murder because one cop shot another while shooting at the unarmed guy. Let that sink in and then compare that outcome with what is likely to happen here.
Didn't the dumbass run at the cops w/a fake gun pretending to be attacking/aiming it at the cops ?
The Chief can only say "charges will likely be filed" because that's the job of the prosecutor, not the police chief.
As to the curdog's post, when a crime results in a death - no matter how that death happened - the result is a charge of murder. That's the law in many if not most states.
This deal sounded like a frame up from the git go. The surprising aspect is that the cover up was unsuccessful.
A couple of days ago, an unarmed guy was charged with murder because one cop shot another while shooting at the unarmed guy. Let that sink in and then compare that outcome with what is likely to happen here.
Didn't the dumbass run at the cops w/a fake gun pretending to be attacking/aiming it at the cops ?
The Houston Homeowner had a real gun and shot four cops before he was killed. In the other case, we don’t know what happened there, do we?
If cops hadn’t been shot in Houston, we would likely never have heard about the phony search warrant.
We shall see what the crooked cop is charged with in Houston.
Even just one crooked cop, one cover up, one lie to get a search/arrest warrant is far too many. An example should be made of any cop that does such a thing.
Multiple cops shot. Two people dead. Public trust SEVERELY eroded.
If guility, public execution is not out of line what this Houston cop apparently did.
Veteran Houston cop shot third time on the job 'had to go in' to gunfight by Craig Fernandez | Jan 30, 2019 | eNews | 0 comments
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By PoliceOne Staff
HOUSTON — One of the four officers shot while serving a warrant in Houston on Monday didn’t hesitate in engaging the gunman, despite being shot twice on the job before.
The 54-year-old officer, who was shot in the neck Monday and hasn’t been publicly identified by the Houston Police Department, has been shot twice previously in the line of duty since joining the department in 1984, ABC News reports.
“I had to go in, I knew my guys were down,” the officer said in a note passed to Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo from his hospital bed on Tuesday, where he was in critical but stable condition.
The 32-year veteran was leading a team to execute a warrant in a narcotics case when suspects opened fire. He was among five officers who were wounded in the shootout. Two suspects were killed.
“He’s done something really good in life that God looks over him,” Acevedo said. “The only thing bigger than his stature is his strength and courage.”
In addition to the 54-year-old officer, one other LEO was also shot in the neck and is in critical, but stable condition. One officer, who was shot in the shoulder, was released from the hospital on Monday.
Goines is a piece of work. “Shot twice”? The first arose when he was peeing against some guy’s tree after an undercover drug buy, the second arose from a road rage incident on the loop.
Next question is why that house, why that couple? Was the Cop wanting to buy the house after the couple lost everything ?
Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less.
Anything less than being charged with murder is not justice. The 2nd cop Bryant sounds complicate as well.
All forms or SWATTING need a hangman's noose. But SWATTING would be impossible without the concept having been allowed to develop in the first place, having no legitimate place in a free society.
Anything less than being charged with murder is not justice. The 2nd cop Bryant sounds complicate as well.
All forms or SWATTING need a hangman's noose. But SWATTING would be impossible without the concept having been allowed to develop in the first place, having no legitimate place in a free society.
How much swatting is going to occur with Red Flag Laws?
This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within.
Anything less than being charged with murder is not justice. The 2nd cop Bryant sounds complicate as well.
All forms or SWATTING need a hangman's noose. But SWATTING would be impossible without the concept having been allowed to develop in the first place, having no legitimate place in a free society.
How much swatting is going to occur with Red Flag Laws?
This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within.
The Constitution had a fail safe against this. It was the requirement that the homeowner be given an opportunity to inspect the warrant before force was applied to gain entry. The purpose of the warrant presentation and inspection was to ensure the homeowner had the chance to know the invasion was lawful, so as to know not to resist with counter force. Remove that feature, and you get this sort of situation where the homeowner feels compelled to repel armed invaders into his home, resulting in death on all sides and a kind of society inconsistent with liberty.
This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within.
The Constitution had a fail safe against this. It was the requirement that the homeowner be given an opportunity to inspect the warrant before force was applied to gain entry. The purpose of the warrant presentation and inspection was to ensure the homeowner had the chance to know the invasion was lawful, so as to know not to resist with counter force. Remove that feature, and you get this sort of situation where the homeowner feels compelled to repel armed invaders into his home, resulting in death on all sides and a kind of society inconsistent with liberty.
The War On Drugs has transformed our culture... at least as much as the drugs themselves. From no knock warrants, to SWAT teams to Civil forfeiture, our inherent God given rights are threatened on a wholesale basis.
We read on this forum frequently about the sheep and wolves making sheep dogs a neccissity. Sheepdogs herd sheep and rely on fear on the part of the sheep to do their job. Cops who see themselves as Great Pyrenees type sheep dogs overlook the fact that many of their “sheep” are armed and don’t cotton to wolves or big dogs.
This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within.
In every liberal controlled form of govt, the corruption within it is epic.
Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.
It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.
The War On Drugs has transformed our culture... at least as much as the drugs themselves. From no knock warrants, to SWAT teams to Civil forfeiture, our inherent God given rights are threatened on a wholesale basis.
We read on this forum frequently about the sheep and wolves making sheep dogs a neccissity. Sheepdogs herd sheep and rely on fear on the part of the sheep to do their job. Cops who see themselves as Great Pyrenees type sheep dogs overlook the fact that many of their “sheep” are armed and don’t cotton to wolves or big dogs.
Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.
It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.
Anything less than being charged with murder is not justice. The 2nd cop Bryant sounds complicate as well.
All forms or SWATTING need a hangman's noose. But SWATTING would be impossible without the concept having been allowed to develop in the first place, having no legitimate place in a free society.
How much swatting is going to occur with Red Flag Laws?
Off the charts.
That's what I say to someone when I find support for a RFL, I also tell them I'll support a RFL when the is stiff penalties for falsely reporting on a RFL and I mean 1 year jail time as a minimum type of punishment for denying some one a Constitutional right and up to life in prison if a falsely accused gets hurt in the process.
So many good posts on this thread I’d be here all day responding to them all. I’ll just say it’s pretty apparent we all agree this was a gross miscarriage of justice made possible not just by endemic corruption but by the erosion of civil liberties that have been in place to keep this sort of thing from happening. Based on the comments so far, it seems as though it should be common sense but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. The system is broken, people are broken, somethings gotta give. This country is not the same place I grew up in.
Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles
Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles
Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.
Goines is a piece of work. “Shot twice”? The first arose when he was peeing against some guy’s tree after an undercover drug buy, the second arose from a road rage incident on the loop.
Next question is why that house, why that couple? Was the Cop wanting to buy the house after the couple lost everything ?
Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less.
Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles
Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.
It's precisely what is ongoing with the Mueller Investigation.
Nothing but an unconstitutional action, lie, hoax, and coup perpetrated by liberals to remove or cripple a duly elected POTUS.
Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles
Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.
I don't think the "overzealous cop" genre is exactly new.
Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less.
If such a defense were put up each and every time a no knock search were employed, we'd see them disappear.
PS Even knock searches amount to the same thing, e.g., someone knocks and mumbles something from outside your home's door, maybe you even hear the word police shouted, and then the door comes down. Shouting police before the door comes down is no guarantee that it's not a home invasion rape, murder, torture, robbery.
Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less.
If such a defense were put up each and every time a no knock search were employed, we'd see them disappear.
PS Even knock searches amount to the same thing, e.g., some knocks and mumble something from outside the door, maybe you even hear the word police shouted, and then the door comes down. Shouting police before the door comes down is no guarantee that it's not a home invasion rape, murder, robbery.
Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles
Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.
I don't think the "overzealous cop" genre is exactly new.
Dirty Harry's methods are positively Joe Friday compared to what they're doing today in cop drama.
Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles
Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.
It's precisely what is ongoing with the Mueller Investigation.
Nothing but an unconstitutional action, lie, hoax, and coup perpetrated by liberals to remove or cripple a duly elected POTUS.
A POTUS they're just sure is a bad man, so every underhanded, unconstitutional, and illegal tactic is justified in removing him.
Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.
It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.
This and Broward come immediately to mind.
Nope, he’ll jusy go back to Austin where he’ll be welcomed with open arms!
The purpose of the judge signed document is to inform the home owner that the invasion is lawful, and he shouldn't resist. Leave out the presentation and inspection phase, and you may as well skip the warrant altogether as far as its Constitutional purpose goes.
The purpose of the judge signed document is to inform the home owner that the invasion is lawful, and he shouldn't resist. Leave out the presentation and inspection phase, and you may as well skip the warrant altogether as far as its Constitutional purpose goes.
It also adjudicates probable cause based on sworn affidavits presented as proof of criminal activity that justifies the breach of Rights as described in the Constitution.
But a judge knows the difference between a warrant being signed for a raid and one that isn't.
They sign them and nobody seems to question anything the judge ever signs. Until they do you can forget anything changing.
Agreed.
Needs to very much apply to surveillance warrants as well. But with current legislation enacted by congress with such as the Patriot Act, it's become pretty much a moot point.
The purpose of the judge signed document is to inform the home owner that the invasion is lawful, and he shouldn't resist. Leave out the presentation and inspection phase, and you may as well skip the warrant altogether as far as its Constitutional purpose goes.
It also adjudicates probable cause based on sworn affidavits presented as proof of criminal activity that justifies the breach of Rights as described in the Constitution.
Yep, and equally important, but ultimately useless without the opportunity to inspect and stand down.
But a judge knows the difference between a warrant being signed for a raid and one that isn't.
They sign them and nobody seems to question anything the judge ever signs. Until they do you can forget anything changing.
This ^
In our country a judges word is final. Might as well be God Himself handing down the affidavit. Until we make them answerable when schitt goes to schitt, nothing fundamentally will change.
Just looked at the stats for Houston,.....24% Caucasian,...black mayor.
Ol' Sylvester is a Commie POS.
Texas passed a law that will not allow any sanctuary cities in the state of Texas.
That POS came real close to declaring Houston a sanctuary city, but backed off when Abbott confronted him with it. My guess is that Abbott told him he'd see him and the rest of the city council in jail if they did that...
Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.
It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.
This and Broward come immediately to mind.
Police Chief Art Acevedo was formally the Police Chief in Austin, Texas. Austin looked all the country for a corrupt Socialist Police Chief and found Acevedo in California. He's still a scumbag!
Police Chief Art Acevedo was formally the Police Chief in Austin, Texas. Austin looked all the country for a corrupt Socialist Police Chief and found Acevedo in California. He's still a scumbag!
I think Austin has a pretty good reputation though does it not?
Police Chief Art Acevedo was formally the Police Chief in Austin, Texas. Austin looked all the country for a corrupt Socialist Police Chief and found Acevedo in California. He's still a scumbag!
I think Austin has a pretty good reputation though does it not?
Police Chief Art Acevedo was formally the Police Chief in Austin, Texas. Austin looked all the country for a corrupt Socialist Police Chief and found Acevedo in California. He's still a scumbag!
I think Austin has a pretty good reputation though does it not?
The Austin PD is a non-confrontational type department that expresses the will of the liberal city govt.
They'll give you seat belt tickets and DWI's though.
City wide traffic cops. Not much on the overall spectrum of enforcing much of anything else though.
At least that was how it was explained to me by a friend I had on APD. That's been awhile back. It's changed I'm sure.
Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles
Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.
Do y’all think cops don’t watch those cop shows also?
Travis is the only LEO that can be counted on to condemn bad cops on one of these threads.
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.?
Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.
It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.
This and Broward come immediately to mind.
Police Chief Art Acevedo was formally the Police Chief in Austin, Texas. Austin looked all the country for a corrupt Socialist Police Chief and found Acevedo in California. He's still a scumbag!
Agreed. This is the same guy who held up photos of that poor couple in front of tv cameras while calling ‘em dirtbags, the same guy who would dictate how you store your guns, as he put it, “in the sanctity of your home”.
Travis is the only LEO that can be counted on to condemn bad cops on one of these threads.
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.?
Travis is the only LEO that can be counted on to condemn bad cops on one of these threads.
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.?
Some phony sons of bitches around this fire.
Those chickenchit SOB’s are hiding behind their wife, departmental policies, their keyboard and any other excuse they can come up with.....baring that they’ll stay quiet in hopes we forget about the lvMikey’s and others that are always wrong but never in doubt.
Every cop on that raid, anyone that signed off on it and their superiors should be brought up on murder charges, just like they do to “perps” that commit a crime that results in death.
What ever came of the female cop that went to the wrong apartment and killed the resident, saying she thought the guy was in her place? Was she in Houston also?
Don't want to deal with azzhole cops?,.....then don't live in schitthole cities.
24% Caucasian+black mayor=schitthole city resulting in azzhole cops.
Your solution isn’t pragmatic it’s wistful dreaming at best and flawed logic of a coward at worst. You folks in the south sure bitch about blacks a lot but yet you don’t move away from them. Moving or running from your home, job, friends and family is NOT pragmatic....it’s downright chickenchit cowardice. It’s unbelievable how many surrender monkeys there are here rather than men willing to take a stand in their community and fight the gestapo state. JFC...
This family was inside their house when the “good guys” broke in and murdered them. Moving to another place doesn’t garner you immunity from being murdered INSIDE your home by the cops. To blame this on the racial composition of a city rather than at the feet of the police department is a cop out (no pun intended). This chit happens all over the country on a fairly regular basis and is a product of police culture and attitudes. Moving does NOTHING to change overall police culture, just ask Jack Yantis.
Don't want to deal with azzhole cops?,.....then don't live in schitthole cities.
24% Caucasian+black mayor=schitthole city resulting in azzhole cops.
Your solution isn’t pragmatic it’s wistful dreaming at best and flawed logic of a coward at worst. You folks in the south sure bitch about blacks a lot but yet you don’t move away from them. Moving or running from your home, job, friends and family is NOT pragmatic....it’s downright chickenchit cowardice. It’s unbelievable how many surrender monkeys there are here rather than men willing to take a stand in their community and fight the gestapo state. JFC...
This family was inside their house when the “good guys” broke in and murdered them. Moving to another place doesn’t garner you immunity from being murdered INSIDE your home by the cops. To blame this on the racial composition of a city rather than at the feet of the police department is a cop out (no pun intended). This chit happens all over the country on a fairly regular basis and is a product of police culture and attitudes. Moving does NOTHING to change overall police culture, just ask Jack Yantis.
Another speech.
So what are you doing today to make your community less of a schitthole?
What ever came of the female cop that went to the wrong apartment and killed the resident, saying she thought the guy was in her place? Was she in Houston also?
I’ve been over this ad nauseum before but for the slow people here......I live in a place where our 2 deputies are friends and are a part of the community. I don’t have the problems you folks have because of where I live. I interact frequently with our deputies on the island and we’re “friends”. We volunteer at the same places and we help our deputies if they’re in need.
Quit being a dipshitt just to stir the pot and pay attention.
Your “nice speech” reply might’ve gotten a laugh from your buddy W4bear the first time but it’s boring, predictable and not funny.....it just makes you look like an ignorant hillbilly that’s trying to impress her friends. You might only be able to string 4 or 5 words together in coherent thought but those of us that are able to elucidate beyond that aren’t making a speech, we’re contributing our thoughts to an open forum.....there IS a difference and the fact you don’t understand that is not my problem. 😉
I’ve been over this ad nauseum before but for the slow people here......I live in a place where our 2 deputies are friends and are a part of the community. I don’t have the problems you folks have because of where I live. I interact frequently with our deputies on the island and we’re “friends”. We volunteer at the same places and we help our deputies if they’re in need.
Quit being a dipshitt just to stir the pot and pay attention.
Your “nice speech” reply might’ve gotten a laugh from your buddy W4bear the first time but it’s boring, predictable and not funny.....it just makes you look like an ignorant hillbilly that’s trying to impress her friends. You might only be able to string 4 or 5 words together in coherent thought but those of us that are able to elucidate beyond that aren’t making a speech, we’re contributing our thoughts to an open forum.....there IS a difference and the fact you don’t understand that is not my problem. 😉
The most pissed off people in America are those who live in the Pacific northwest and lack the gumption to move away from that Commie schitthole.
Lol....you don’t have clue but you do have almost 58,000 posts of bitching and complaining. Congrats?
I love this state and it’s been my home for 48 years.....while we do plan to move, having bought property up north, we have children in school and they’re more important than what some dumbfuk from Kentucky thinks. You lived in a liberal chithole and bitched about it endlessly until you retired and moved a few miles away, now you regard yourself as the greatest American hero.
Well that's you Bristo, but you are the type that runs from a fight the rest of us stand a fight the fight and vote and get others to vote. The PNW is worth fighting for.
The most pissed off people in America are those who live in the Pacific northwest and lack the gumption to move away from that Commie schitthole.
Lol....you don’t have clue but you do have almost 58,000 posts of bitching and complaining. Congrats?
I love this state and it’s been my home for 48 years.....while we do plan to move, having bought property up north, we have children in school and they’re more important than what some dumbfuk from Kentucky thinks. You lived in a liberal chithole and bitched about it endlessly until you retired and moved a few miles away, now you regard yourself as the greatest American hero.
Bristoe needs to go back to work.
This internet all day thing ain’t doing him any good. Lo.
The most pissed off people in America are those who live in the Pacific northwest and lack the gumption to move away from that Commie schitthole.
Lol....you don’t have clue but you do have almost 58,000 posts of bitching and complaining. Congrats?
I love this state and it’s been my home for 48 years.....while we do plan to move, having bought property up north, we have children in school and they’re more important than what some dumbfuk from Kentucky thinks. You lived in a liberal chithole and bitched about it endlessly until you retired and moved a few miles away, now you regard yourself as the greatest American hero.
hmmmmm,...I don't recall saying anything about being a hero.
Two people bitchin' at me in this thread. One is from a Commie Washington state,...the other is from Idaho where Africans have taken to raping the local women.
I'm not sure why they're pissed off at me about it.
Travis is the only LEO that can be counted on to condemn bad cops on one of these threads.
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.?
Some phony sons of bitches around this fire.
I wasn't a real cop, so my thoughts may not matter. I was an LEO for the Coast Guard for 20 years and a reserve deputy for a few years before I shredded my shoulder. This schidt pisses me off beyond belief. One bad cop can do more harm that one hundred good cops could ever undo. The bad guys make the good guy's job much more difficult.
Not sure why everybody so concerned with where other folks live either.
My post that set Aces off concerned the relationship between schitthole cities and their azzhole cops,..in particular, a city about 1000 or so miles away from him.
Somehow he constructed something in his mind that made him think that he needed to jump up and down and have a snot blowing fit at me over it.
Travis is the only LEO that can be counted on to condemn bad cops on one of these threads.
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.?
Some phony sons of bitches around this fire.
Did Travis start this thread?
I think there's more good ones around than you know.
Travis is the only LEO that can be counted on to condemn bad cops on one of these threads.
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.?
Some phony sons of bitches around this fire.
Did Travis start this thread?
I think there's more good ones around than you know.
Didn’t figure you to be a cop. I thought you were a surveyor, or rancher.
What ever came of the female cop that went to the wrong apartment and killed the resident, saying she thought the guy was in her place? Was she in Houston also?
Dallas, and they charged her with a crime, manslaughter.
After the Refugee Act of 1980 was passed, providing for the admission and resettlement of people fleeing their countries for humanitarian reasons, more than 19,000 refugees from approximately 50 countries eventually made their new homes in Idaho. Most recently, Boise’s largest groups have come from Iraq, Democratic Republic of Congo, Myanmar, Bhutan, Afghanistan, and Somalia. By 2007 the Boise Police Department recognized the need for a full-time cultural liaison officer to build a bridge to these newcomers. When William Bones became chief of police in 2015 he continued to fund the position and expanded the program despite a tight budget.
CHIEF WILLIAM BONES: Boise’s grown quite a bit. You’re seeing a lot more youth, a lot of energy, a lot of that new business vibe. We’re obviously seeing a lot more diversity in the population base when you walk down the streets. It’s not just in somebody’s race or their religion, but it’s in what they might be wearing — a hijab or traditional central African tribal wear. Depending on what part of the city you are in, hearing the languages spoken, seeing the different cultures, seeing the different coffee shop or tea shop, or the great ethnic restaurants that are starting to open — it’s that kind of change. We’re starting to become more of a mixing pot, where we have always been so much of a homogeneous, white community.
Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.
It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.
This and Broward come immediately to mind.
Two flagrant examples.
Both liberal controlled local govt.
^^^This^^^
Houston is a Liberal run schitt hole. They need a good purge from the Mayor on down!
HPD Chief Acevedo says narcotics cop committed likely crime by lying in affidavit for deadly raid
An internal Houston police investigation has uncovered alarming deficiencies in the department's narcotics division that led to an allegedly falsified search warrantused to justify a southeast Houston drug raid last month that killed two Pecan Park residents and injured five officers, according to documents obtained Friday by the Houston Chronicle.
In a hastily called press conference, Police Chief Art Acevedo said Gerald Goines, the veteran narcotics case agent at the center of the controversy, will likely face criminal charges. The internal investigation revealed he allegedly lied about using a confidential informant to conduct an undercover buy at the residence on Harding Street. The buy led to a raid and a fatal gunfight at the house the next day, killing Dennis Tuttle, 59, and Rhogena Nicholas, 58, and injuring five Houston Police Department officers.The debacle, which has infuriated officers across the department and which critics say has damaged public trust in HPD, and infuriated members of the department's rank-and-file, also prompted Acevedo to order an "extensive audit" of the 175-member narcotics division and an examination of Goines' recent cases.
"We know that there's already a crime that's been committed," Acevedo said. "It's a serious crime when we prepare a document to go into somebody's home, into the sanctity that is somebody's home. It has to be truthful, it has to be honest, it has to be factual. We know already there's a crime that's been committed. There's high probability there will be a criminal charge."
Houston Police Officers' Union President Joe Gamaldi said that while he was "extremely concerned and disturbed" by the allegations that came to light Friday, they were "not indicative" of the performance of the rest of the department's 5,200 officers. He pledged to back any reforms needed to avoid similar misconduct in the future.
"We certainly feel this is an isolated incident," he said. "However, we will certainly support any review or changes to policy that need to be made in order to ensure that something like this never happens again."
The critical allegations were outlined in a sworn affidavit written by HPD Officer R. Bass, with the department's Special Investigations Unit, who asked a judge for a search warrant to examine the cell phone of officer Steven Bryant, an undercover narcotics officer relieved of duty after the shooting.
The Chronicle normally does not publish the names of undercover officers, but Goines and Bryant were identified in an affidavit related to a search warrant and both have been relieved of duty by Acevedo.
In the initial HPD warrant, Goines wrote that he monitored a buy at the home by a confidential informant, who identified the substance that was purchased as heroin and said there was a 9mm handgun in the house. Police obtained a no-knock warrant —allowing them to enter unannounced — and burst into the small southeast home the next day to a hail of gunfire.
At the end of the shootout, both Tuttle and Nicholas had been shot to death, and five officers were injured — four by gunfire. Police found 18 grams of marijuana — about half an ounce — and a little more than a gram of white powder, but no heroin or trafficking paraphernalia. After the fatal operation, neighbors pushed back on assertions by police the residence was a drug house.
HPD investigators have not been unable to locate the confidential informants who Goines claimed — in two separate interviews — made the undercover purchases at the Pecan Park home, according to Bass' affidavit.
When detectives talked to the informants, both said they'd worked for Goines but never purchased drugs at the 7815 Harding home where Tuttle and Nicholas were killed. Investigators then got a full list of Goines' confidential informants, and they all denied making a buy at the Tuttle house or ever purchasing narcotics from Nicholas or Tuttle.
Bryant told investigators he had retrieved two bags of heroin from the center console of Goines' police car at the instruction of another officer. That was not consistent with the affidavit used to obtain the warrant for the Jan. 28 raid, which said Bryant identified heroin brought out of the house. Though he took the two bags of drugs for testing to determine that they were heroin, Bryant eventually said he had never seen the narcotics in question before retrieving them from the car.
Investigators are reviewing Goines' past cases, Acevedo said, adding that he's assigned Assistant Chief Pedro Lopez to take a broader look "to make sure that we're not being myopic, that we look at our entire narcotics operation out there, in terms of the street level units, and they'll be conducting a very extensive audit."
The allegations of false information used to conduct a raid that led to the death of two residents and left five officers injured further stunned and angered residents. It marked one of most significant cases of police misconduct within the narcotics division in decades.
Travis is the only LEO that can be counted on to condemn bad cops on one of these threads.
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.?
Some phony sons of bitches around this fire.
Did Travis start this thread?
I think there's more good ones around than you know.
Didn’t figure you to be a cop. I thought you were a surveyor, or rancher.
Wow I kinda thought that was common knowledge. BUT when you have a chip on your shoulder from run ins with the law I guess its somewhat understandable.
Wife and I just got back from a trip to a more populace area to do some shopping. We hit at least three towns, two of 100K or more people, stopped at several stores. I just ask her "did we see any blacks today" she had the same answer I had " not that I recall." Let's see ya do that anywhere anytime in Dixie, or damn near anywhere east of the Rockies. This is common here not out of the ordinary at all. It might be months not seeing anything but Caucasian and Hispanics or maybe an Asian here and there. If ya don't think so , check some demographics
Lexington- 75.7% White, 14.5% Black or African American
Boise has its work cut out- 89.0% White, 1.5% African American
What's the stats for your city?
I don’t live in a city. Smallish island out a bit.
We got a couple old dudes that ride around as “citizen patrol”. They seem chill. I got a neighbor down the way that has a Russian wife. Mail order I think. They’re pretty chill. Couple Asians around. They drive like schit but I ain’t heard of them raping anyone.
After the Refugee Act of 1980 was passed, providing for the admission and resettlement of people fleeing their countries for humanitarian reasons, more than 19,000 refugees from approximately 50 countries eventually made their new homes in Idaho. Most recently, Boise’s largest groups have come from Iraq, Democratic Republic of Congo, Myanmar, Bhutan, Afghanistan, and Somalia. By 2007 the Boise Police Department recognized the need for a full-time cultural liaison officer to build a bridge to these newcomers. When William Bones became chief of police in 2015 he continued to fund the position and expanded the program despite a tight budget.
CHIEF WILLIAM BONES: Boise’s grown quite a bit. You’re seeing a lot more youth, a lot of energy, a lot of that new business vibe. We’re obviously seeing a lot more diversity in the population base when you walk down the streets. It’s not just in somebody’s race or their religion, but it’s in what they might be wearing — a hijab or traditional central African tribal wear. Depending on what part of the city you are in, hearing the languages spoken, seeing the different cultures, seeing the different coffee shop or tea shop, or the great ethnic restaurants that are starting to open — it’s that kind of change. We’re starting to become more of a mixing pot, where we have always been so much of a homogeneous, white community.
After the Refugee Act of 1980 was passed, providing for the admission and resettlement of people fleeing their countries for humanitarian reasons, more than 19,000 refugees from approximately 50 countries eventually made their new homes in Idaho. Most recently, Boise’s largest groups have come from Iraq, Democratic Republic of Congo, Myanmar, Bhutan, Afghanistan, and Somalia. By 2007 the Boise Police Department recognized the need for a full-time cultural liaison officer to build a bridge to these newcomers. When William Bones became chief of police in 2015 he continued to fund the position and expanded the program despite a tight budget.
CHIEF WILLIAM BONES: Boise’s grown quite a bit. You’re seeing a lot more youth, a lot of energy, a lot of that new business vibe. We’re obviously seeing a lot more diversity in the population base when you walk down the streets. It’s not just in somebody’s race or their religion, but it’s in what they might be wearing — a hijab or traditional central African tribal wear. Depending on what part of the city you are in, hearing the languages spoken, seeing the different cultures, seeing the different coffee shop or tea shop, or the great ethnic restaurants that are starting to open — it’s that kind of change. We’re starting to become more of a mixing pot, where we have always been so much of a homogeneous, white community.
Less and less possible to escape it by moving.
You have to live somewhere that's not on the multiculti radar.
A Texan telling ID about Mexicans sneaking in.....you gotta admit....that pretty funny Barry.
They're all over now.
Was really surprised outside Grand Junction, CO when I pulled into a burger King off the interstate and there were nothing but wetbacks in there... That includes all the workers. Good thing I speakee Spanish. No telling what I would have ordered otherwise..
If those two dead people were black Houston would already be burning. Art Assevedo seems to have a knack for being right in the middle of a bunch of drama, whether it was Austin or, now, Houston.
A Texan telling ID about Mexicans sneaking in.....you gotta admit....that pretty funny Barry.
They're all over now.
Was really surprised outside Grand Junction, CO when I pulled into a burger King off the interstate and there were nothing but wetbacks in there... That includes all the workers. Good thing I speakee Spanish. No telling what I would have ordered otherwise..
Yea.....it's nation wide (cept for KY of course) but the numbers are greatly reflected by the states population and TX being the size that it is has a very large population and being a border state naturally has a greater number of wet backs.
In Houston, there's Meskin neighborhoods, there are black neighborhoods, and there are poor neighborhoods. I much preferred having to go survey in black neighborhoods. Those Meskin neighborhoods were utterly filthy and worse. Probably due to 30 people per household living in them. Cartel presence is strong.
In Houston, there's Meskin neighborhoods, there are black neighborhoods, and there are poor neighborhoods. I much preferred having to go survey in black neighborhoods. Those Meskin neighborhoods were utterly filthy and worse. Probably due to 30 people per household living in them. Cartel presence is strong.
I’d rather deal with blacks than meskins any ole day! At least I can understand what the blacks are saying about me. 😡
Since Bristoe turned a thread about cops lying on a search warrant and killing innocent people into “Kentucky is Shangri-La”....and “we ain’t got no diversity in Kentucky”..... I’ll go ahead and play along. I live on an island of 16,000 people, Caucasian/White comprise 93%, blacks/African Americans comprise 0.2% (two tenths of 1%)....,.I’ve met the family, dads a physician and mom is a stay at home mom/attorney. 😉
I bet it wouldn’t be the same ANYWHERE in Kentucky that has a population of 15,000. I’m sure Kentucky has its multiculturalism spread throughout the state in a fairly consistent distribution, whereas here the multiculturalism is mostly contained within the densely populated cities.
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.? .
Cops tend to get upset when you follow the LAW and stand up for your rights... instead of just obeying them..
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.? .
Cops tend to get upset when you follow the LAW and stand up for your rights... instead of just obeying them..
Do the cops where you live know what a POS back stabber their district atty is?
Vet sues for being arrested with bug spray, light bulbs A veteran who was arrested for buying and carrying bug spray and light bulbs in downtown Charlottesville, Virginia, is suing local and state police for their actions, claiming they violated the Fourth Amendment.
.... .The debacle, which has infuriated officers across the department ....., and infuriated members of the department's rank-and-file, also prompted Acevedo to order an "extensive audit" of the 175-member narcotics division and an examination of Goines' recent cases...
...Houston Police Officers' Union President Joe Gamaldi said that while he was "extremely concerned and disturbed" by the allegations that came to light Friday, they were "not indicative" of the performance of the rest of the department's 5,200 officers. He pledged to back any reforms needed to avoid similar misconduct in the future.
Cops can weed out their own troublesome garbage if they really wanted to, but they tend to complain through a talking head like that gas-bag union rep. about how a few ruin the image of LE ,(or even get the police Chief to 'parrot' the same), but then they largely continue to knowingly tolerate them within their ranks.
LE have a long established and deeply embedded endemic condition that they are just not willing to address.
A union culture inflated ego badge boys club cleaning out the azzholes and corrupt with its ranks?...well that'll be the day.... , ,
Aces: I know two African Americans!! One is a Physician and his wife is an Attorney!! So you're obviously fulla schitt!!"
People who live up in that rain forest are peculiar,.......noticed it a long time ago.
Somebody needs to conduct a study concerning living under a rain cloud for extended periods of time and how it relates to believing that black folks are the reincarnation of Ward and June Cleaver.
It also seems to make men exceptionally emotional. Maybe the government is seeding the clouds out there with estrogen chemtrails?
Aces: I know two African Americans!! One is a Physician and his wife is an Attorney!! So you're obviously fulla schitt!!"
People who live up in that rain forest are peculiar,.......noticed it a long time ago.
Somebody needs to conduct a study concerning living under a rain cloud for extended periods of time and how it relates to believing that black folks are the reincarnation of Ward and June Cleaver.
It also seems to make men exceptionally emotional. Maybe the government is seeding the clouds out there with estrogen chemtrails?
I dunno.
Wow!....nice speech.
You’re too emotionally attached to your assumptions.....you damn baby boomers and your penchant for projection.tff
Aces: I know two African Americans!! One is a Physician and his wife is an Attorney!! So you're obviously fulla schitt!!"
People who live up in that rain forest are peculiar,.......noticed it a long time ago.
Somebody needs to conduct a study concerning living under a rain cloud for extended periods of time and how it relates to believing that black folks are the reincarnation of Ward and June Cleaver.
It also seems to make men exceptionally emotional. Maybe the government is seeding the clouds out there with estrogen chemtrails?
I dunno.
Wow!....nice speech.
You’re too emotionally attached to your assumptions.....you damn baby boomers and your penchant for projection.tff
Not emotional about it at all.
Just pondering,....like us damn baby boomers are wan to do.
Since Bristoe turned a thread about cops lying on a search warrant and killing innocent people into “Kentucky is Shangri-La”....and “we ain’t got no diversity in Kentucky”..... I’ll go ahead and play along. I live on an island of 16,000 people, Caucasian/White comprise 93%, blacks/African Americans comprise 0.2% (two tenths of 1%)....,.I’ve met the family, dads a physician and mom is a stay at home mom/attorney. 😉
I bet it wouldn’t be the same ANYWHERE in Kentucky that has a population of 15,000. I’m sure Kentucky has its multiculturalism spread throughout the state in a fairly consistent distribution, whereas here the multiculturalism is mostly contained within the densely populated cities.
And yet, ironically, they still manage to go RED on presidential elections.
As I've said, time and time again, it's left coast and Yankee whites that are the problem.
Since Bristoe turned a thread about cops lying on a search warrant and killing innocent people into “Kentucky is Shangri-La”....and “we ain’t got no diversity in Kentucky”..... I’ll go ahead and play along. I live on an island of 16,000 people, Caucasian/White comprise 93%, blacks/African Americans comprise 0.2% (two tenths of 1%)....,.I’ve met the family, dads a physician and mom is a stay at home mom/attorney. 😉
I bet it wouldn’t be the same ANYWHERE in Kentucky that has a population of 15,000. I’m sure Kentucky has its multiculturalism spread throughout the state in a fairly consistent distribution, whereas here the multiculturalism is mostly contained within the densely populated cities.
And yet, ironically, they still manage to go RED on presidential elections.
As I've said, time and time again, it's left coast and Yankee whites that are the problem.
In Houston, there's Meskin neighborhoods, there are black neighborhoods, and there are poor neighborhoods. I much preferred having to go survey in black neighborhoods. Those Meskin neighborhoods were utterly filthy and worse. Probably due to 30 people per household living in them. Cartel presence is strong.
Like I said...it's nation wide......exactly what the dems have been planning for decades. The only ethnic neighborhood we have is the Rez.
Since Bristoe turned a thread about cops lying on a search warrant and killing innocent people into “Kentucky is Shangri-La”....and “we ain’t got no diversity in Kentucky”..... I’ll go ahead and play along. I live on an island of 16,000 people, Caucasian/White comprise 93%, blacks/African Americans comprise 0.2% (two tenths of 1%)....,.I’ve met the family, dads a physician and mom is a stay at home mom/attorney. 😉
I bet it wouldn’t be the same ANYWHERE in Kentucky that has a population of 15,000. I’m sure Kentucky has its multiculturalism spread throughout the state in a fairly consistent distribution, whereas here the multiculturalism is mostly contained within the densely populated cities.
And yet, ironically, they still manage to go RED on presidential elections.
As I've said, time and time again, it's left coast and Yankee whites that are the problem.
Yeah well your wife is fat and f*cken ugly so what the f*ck do you know.
It’s a good thing that there’s only one island out here....😉
It’d be weird and potentially confusing to anyone living in the armpit of the midwest if there were dozens of habitable islands out here in da ghetto.
Living on an island has its advantages and lack of access equals lack of people. Those that do go the trouble to escape can live a pretty damn good life in one of the most beautiful places in the world.
It is nice to escape from the rainforest in the winter so we usually take quite a few vacations to various warm locations each winter. Just got back from Maui a couple weeks ago and tomorrow we’re headed to the coast to do a couple days of razor clamming, bonfires and a little drinking. In a couple of weeks we’re surprising the kids with a trip to Disneyland in dastardly California. 😂. I’m willing to put bitterness and politics aside in order to create lifelong family memories of fun times and exciting adventures. Stay tuned......Should be fun.
The downside to the lack of people is the lack of diversity. As I pointed out to, and subsequently confused Bristoe earlier, we are pretty homogeneous and the “non whites” are upper middle class families that live normal lives. We don’t have much crime and the crimes we do have are generally very minor. I’ll have to have Bristoe give me his real life experiences about diversity since he lives amongst it daily, though I fear those lessons in diversity will likely be in YouTube format. I make no apologies for living in a homogeneous location but it was a choice. We MOVED!.....But only so far as was feasible for my wife to commute to work.....76 miles one way!
Travis is the only LEO that can be counted on to condemn bad cops on one of these threads.
I wonder where all the “ play stupid games, win stupid prizes “ commenters are. How about those members who assure us repeatedly that if we just obey the law we have nothing to fear from the police.?
Some phony sons of bitches around this fire.
Did Travis start this thread?
I think there's more good ones around than you know.
Didn’t figure you to be a cop. I thought you were a surveyor, or rancher.
Wow I kinda thought that was common knowledge. BUT when you have a chip on your shoulder from run ins with the law I guess its somewhat understandable.
Jeff...why don’t you tell all of us what you know about me and how you came by that knowledge?
Then do the same thing with Barry.
Then explain what relevance it has to what the HPD did?
No knock warrant, "police" in plain cloths, and come in shooting, and they wonder why someone shot back??
Pretty much every member here would of returned fire.
The cops set themselves up for failure. Their actions are not SOP in professional LE. NoKnock warrents should be a rare thing and usually served after extensive surveillance.
Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.
It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.
This and Broward come immediately to mind.
Two flagrant examples.
Both liberal controlled local govt.
^^^This^^^
Houston is a Liberal run schitt hole. They need a good purge from the Mayor on down!
Never happen, bro. It's no wonder you can buy a house cheap there.
HPD Chief Acevedo says narcotics cop committed likely crime by lying in affidavit for deadly raid
An internal Houston police investigation has uncovered alarming deficiencies in the department's narcotics division that led to an allegedly falsified search warrantused to justify a southeast Houston drug raid last month that killed two Pecan Park residents and injured five officers, according to documents obtained Friday by the Houston Chronicle.
In a hastily called press conference, Police Chief Art Acevedo said Gerald Goines, the veteran narcotics case agent at the center of the controversy, will likely face criminal charges. The internal investigation revealed he allegedly lied about using a confidential informant to conduct an undercover buy at the residence on Harding Street. The buy led to a raid and a fatal gunfight at the house the next day, killing Dennis Tuttle, 59, and Rhogena Nicholas, 58, and injuring five Houston Police Department officers.The debacle, which has infuriated officers across the department and which critics say has damaged public trust in HPD, and infuriated members of the department's rank-and-file, also prompted Acevedo to order an "extensive audit" of the 175-member narcotics division and an examination of Goines' recent cases.
"We know that there's already a crime that's been committed," Acevedo said. "It's a serious crime when we prepare a document to go into somebody's home, into the sanctity that is somebody's home. It has to be truthful, it has to be honest, it has to be factual. We know already there's a crime that's been committed. There's high probability there will be a criminal charge."
Houston Police Officers' Union President Joe Gamaldi said that while he was "extremely concerned and disturbed" by the allegations that came to light Friday, they were "not indicative" of the performance of the rest of the department's 5,200 officers. He pledged to back any reforms needed to avoid similar misconduct in the future.
"We certainly feel this is an isolated incident," he said. "However, we will certainly support any review or changes to policy that need to be made in order to ensure that something like this never happens again."
The critical allegations were outlined in a sworn affidavit written by HPD Officer R. Bass, with the department's Special Investigations Unit, who asked a judge for a search warrant to examine the cell phone of officer Steven Bryant, an undercover narcotics officer relieved of duty after the shooting.
The Chronicle normally does not publish the names of undercover officers, but Goines and Bryant were identified in an affidavit related to a search warrant and both have been relieved of duty by Acevedo.
In the initial HPD warrant, Goines wrote that he monitored a buy at the home by a confidential informant, who identified the substance that was purchased as heroin and said there was a 9mm handgun in the house. Police obtained a no-knock warrant —allowing them to enter unannounced — and burst into the small southeast home the next day to a hail of gunfire.
At the end of the shootout, both Tuttle and Nicholas had been shot to death, and five officers were injured — four by gunfire. Police found 18 grams of marijuana — about half an ounce — and a little more than a gram of white powder, but no heroin or trafficking paraphernalia. After the fatal operation, neighbors pushed back on assertions by police the residence was a drug house.
HPD investigators have not been unable to locate the confidential informants who Goines claimed — in two separate interviews — made the undercover purchases at the Pecan Park home, according to Bass' affidavit.
When detectives talked to the informants, both said they'd worked for Goines but never purchased drugs at the 7815 Harding home where Tuttle and Nicholas were killed. Investigators then got a full list of Goines' confidential informants, and they all denied making a buy at the Tuttle house or ever purchasing narcotics from Nicholas or Tuttle.
Bryant told investigators he had retrieved two bags of heroin from the center console of Goines' police car at the instruction of another officer. That was not consistent with the affidavit used to obtain the warrant for the Jan. 28 raid, which said Bryant identified heroin brought out of the house. Though he took the two bags of drugs for testing to determine that they were heroin, Bryant eventually said he had never seen the narcotics in question before retrieving them from the car.
Investigators are reviewing Goines' past cases, Acevedo said, adding that he's assigned Assistant Chief Pedro Lopez to take a broader look "to make sure that we're not being myopic, that we look at our entire narcotics operation out there, in terms of the street level units, and they'll be conducting a very extensive audit."
The allegations of false information used to conduct a raid that led to the death of two residents and left five officers injured further stunned and angered residents. It marked one of most significant cases of police misconduct within the narcotics division in decades.
Normally I agree with the vast majority of what RockingBbar posts, but here we kind of diverge a bit. Sort of...
No doubt about it. This stinks.
But I disagree about letting HPD and/or the Texas Rangers investigate this.
I will post this disclaimer though, as I have not read the thread and I am sure the typical haters will be here stating that all cops are dirty and we dot need them etc (curdog etc).
If It were up to me, on major incidents like this where citizens have lost their lives (even schitbirds, because I have no doubt that no matter how people try to paint it these two were not fine upstanding citizens) that the investigation needs to get farmed out to a distant agency.
As an example, in this case, it should go to the Montana Department of Justice (or whatever state agency would investigate such crimes in Montana. Or North Dakota, etc. That way there is very little chance of nepotism or bias. Within the T. Rangers there may be a chance of such things and in the interest of truly blind justice and an appropriate investigation, these things should be handled by a professional agency from a distant region.
Mackay, the Texas Rangers are indeed used many times here to conduct an investigation where no bias can be brought up at a later date.
Most agencies refer to them because of that. From past experience with them, they sure don't mind calling a spade a spade.
Much, much better than an in house HPD investigation where questions of coverup already exist. HPD shoudn't be investigating themselves under any circumstances in this. I'd trust the FBI even less.
The sad part is FBI, as I know some FBI guys personally and as individuals they are totally stand up men whom I would trust with my life and the lives of my children. Unfortunately their leadership and some individuals have completely ruined what once was a good outfit. Truly a shame but you have to call it for what it is.
There is not a thing wrong with the Rangers, and the only reason I mention not using them is that (as you know) people often move up the food chain of LE, and in the state of TX that Rangers may be considered the top of the heap, so some of them may have started there or have friends within HPD.
If the investigation that involves deaths of citizens is sent outside the state the public is likely to have more faith in the honesty and integrity of the investigation as a whole.
When integrity is on the line, they sure as heck should not have HPD involved in any way, shape or form.
Cops will not uphold their oath for the most part, and probably 98% will turn a blind eye when they know corruption is on-going within their own departments or any department they "cooperate" with at any time.
That's neither "anti-cop" nor "pro cop". That's simply a statement of fact. It's like saying "poison gas is dangerous". It's a factual statement. Getting the paycheck is ALWAYS more important then up-holding their oath for at least 98% of them at every level, and the higher those levels go the larger their paychecks get, so of course the higher-ups have more to loose by not going along with the corruption.
The Texas Rangers are trusted in Texas...except by some other cops, I figure from jealously.They are invited to investigate a lot of allegations of wrongdoing by local Police Departments. They turn down many requests and when they do agree to investigate particular incidents, they generally use the local Department’s Policy Manual as the rule book. Most accusations of excessive force wind up being dismissed because the Plicy Manual leaves so much up to the discretion of the individual cop.So...unless there is someone killed, they usually refuse the invitation.
Its doubtful they have the manpower to conduct an investigation of even just the Narcotics Division of the HPD, much less the whole Department. There are almost as many Narcotics Officers in HPD as there are Rangers. Rangers most often come through the ranks of Tx DPS, not local PDs.
I’d be satisfied with the FBI investigating this as a Civil Rights violation and I expect it would satisfy most Texans. The HPD Chief is from California so an out of state Agency would not set well at all with most folks.
You ain’t a damn bit better than the HPD Union goon. You “ have no doubt” that the two people killed were dirtbags, despite there being zero evidence of it and much evidence to the contrary.
If anyone wonders why I dislike cops, as a profession, I can use you as my poster boy.
You ain’t a damn bit better than the HPD Union goon. You “ have no doubt” that the two people killed were dirtbags, despite there being zero evidence of it and much evidence to the contrary.
If anyone wonders why I dislike cops, as a profession, I can use you as my poster boy.
My thoughts exactly. This is exactly why the cops get a bad reputation, because other cops will excuse criminal behavior simply because the crime was perpetrated by another cop. The cops cry and demand sympathy because people “paint with a broad brush” when referring to the cops but the cops obviously paint with an even broader brush when they look at “civilians”. The 2 victims and their dog were murdered by the lying cock sucking cops and the murderers are defended by other cops, simply because they’re cops.
Hypocrisy at its worst and a pathetic attempt to excuse the inexcusable by the resident cop apologists dos no favors to the good cops out there. So many cops are just too ignorant or self absorbed with their power to understand that their actions undermine the very trust they’re trying to earn.
So many cops are just too ignorant or self absorbed with their power to understand that their actions undermine the very trust they’re trying to earn.
Yeah... no. The problem with today's militarized police culture is that they don't have a sense of needing to earn trust. They expect it, they demand it, they would coerce it if it were possible.
The concept of earning trust is political, and does not fit in the current adversarial policing model.
Nobody with a functional brain will award ANY credibility to your assessment of the character of the couple murdered by the Houston cops.
But..... Everyone reading your post damn sure learned a lot about YOU.
A functional brain is an asset. My post made no mention of the character of the slain couple or alluded to it in any way. My life is an open book, tell us yet again of how many times you have been arrested. Your hatred of cops, which borders on the pathological, has been on display here for many years.
A vast majority of citizens go a lifetime w/out a negative interaction w/ LE. YMMV.
Nobody with a functional brain will award ANY credibility to your assessment of the character of the couple murdered by the Houston cops.
But..... Everyone reading your post damn sure learned a lot about YOU.
A functional brain is an asset. My post made no mention of the character of the slain couple or alluded to it in any way. My life is an open book, tell us yet again of how many times you have been arrested. Your hatred of cops, which borders on the pathological, has been on display here for many years.
A vast majority of citizens go a lifetime w/out a negative interaction w/ LE. YMMV.
mike r
All things being equal, I'd go to bat for Gene 99 times out of a 100, over your dumb ass.
Nobody with a functional brain will award ANY credibility to your assessment of the character of the couple murdered by the Houston cops.
But..... Everyone reading your post damn sure learned a lot about YOU.
A functional brain is an asset. My post made no mention of the character of the slain couple or alluded to it in any way. My life is an open book, tell us yet again of how many times you have been arrested. Your hatred of cops, which borders on the pathological, has been on display here for many years.
A vast majority of citizens go a lifetime w/out a negative interaction w/ LE. YMMV.
mike r
All things being equal, I'd go to bat for Gene 99 times out of a 100, over your dumb ass.
Nobody with a functional brain will award ANY credibility to your assessment of the character of the couple murdered by the Houston cops.
But..... Everyone reading your post damn sure learned a lot about YOU.
A functional brain is an asset. My post made no mention of the character of the slain couple or alluded to it in any way. My life is an open book, tell us yet again of how many times you have been arrested. Your hatred of cops, which borders on the pathological, has been on display here for many years.
A vast majority of citizens go a lifetime w/out a negative interaction w/ LE. YMMV.
mike r
All things being equal, I'd go to bat for Gene 99 times out of a 100, over your dumb ass.
I could not hope for a better endorsement.
mike r
Smart money has you going out on murder/suicide. I only hope your wife, er partner, reads this while there is time.
What I do know is you old fuggs will be 6 feet under long before me, and that is never not funny. Tick toc, Tick toc, you crepey skin bastard.
I did that job for a long time. I'm very proud to say that I survived, arrested thousands of "[bleep] birds", or whatever you called them, and never got in any trouble. Oh, none of them died by my hand either. On that note, the first thing I did when this situation arose was look up and read the search warrant. (They are open record and usually available online immediately after service in larger jurisdictions.) It looked like trouble right off the bat. I haven't seen a paper that vague in 25 years. That is why I have been absent from this discussion from the start.
I did that job for a long time. I'm very proud to say that I survived, arrested thousands of "[bleep] birds", or whatever you called them, and never got in any trouble. Oh, none of them died by my hand either. On that note, the first thing I did when this situation arose was look up and read the search warrant. (They are open record and usually available online immediately after service in larger jurisdictions.) It looked like trouble right off the bat. I haven't seen a paper that vague in 25 years. That is why I have been absent from this discussion from the start.
Not that my opinion on such things matter.
Cops that strive to do right by the law and follow the rule of law... are probably more outraged than the avg. Joe when some A-hole like this is caught abusing it.
That it resulted in death and injury just compounds it.
They need to make an example of them with valid prosecution. No favors.
You are a damned liar. Your post is still there for all to see where you claimed to have no doubt that the slain couple were schitbirds.
Denying something that is in plain view is something I’ve only encountered in women, and only in the batschit crazy ones at that.
Now I wonder if you even have a masculine side to your nature.
that might have been that McKay guy...…….bob
I was hoping that the mutt might rant on for several more pages, but thanks for setting the record straight. I do wonder how long it will take mutt to see it and say:.
You are a damned liar. Your post is still there for all to see where you claimed to have no doubt that the slain couple were schitbirds.
Denying something that is in plain view is something I’ve only encountered in women, and only in the batschit crazy ones at that.
Now I wonder if you even have a masculine side to your nature.
that might have been that McKay guy...…….bob
yes it was, which i found surprising because i always found Macky to be a pretty level headed guy. My bet is he didn't read the whole thread and wasn't fully informed on what had transpired in this case.
Nobody with a functional brain will award ANY credibility to your assessment of the character of the couple murdered by the Houston cops.
But..... Everyone reading your post damn sure learned a lot about YOU.
A functional brain is an asset. My post made no mention of the character of the slain couple or alluded to it in any way. My life is an open book, tell us yet again of how many times you have been arrested. Your hatred of cops, which borders on the pathological, has been on display here for many years.
A vast majority of citizens go a lifetime w/out a negative interaction w/ LE. YMMV.
mike r
Oops.....I got you mixed up with that McKay guy and attributed his words to you.
I apologize .
As a partial amend for my mistake I’ll answer your question..... I’ve been arrested more times than I’ve been divorced. I will note that I have not been arrested in the last 34 years.
You are a damned liar. Your post is still there for all to see where you claimed to have no doubt that the slain couple were schitbirds.
Denying something that is in plain view is something I’ve only encountered in women, and only in the batschit crazy ones at that.
Now I wonder if you even have a masculine side to your nature.
that might have been that McKay guy...…….bob
yes it was, which i found surprising because i always found Macky to be a pretty level headed guy. My bet is he didn't read the whole thread and wasn't fully informed on what had transpired in this case.
You are a damned liar. Your post is still there for all to see where you claimed to have no doubt that the slain couple were schitbirds.
Denying something that is in plain view is something I’ve only encountered in women, and only in the batschit crazy ones at that.
Now I wonder if you even have a masculine side to your nature.
that might have been that McKay guy...…….bob
yes it was, which i found surprising because i always found Macky to be a pretty level headed guy. My bet is he didn't read the whole thread and wasn't fully informed on what had transpired in this case.
+1
it was surprising…….he seems to be an even keel type of guy...…...bob
You ought to go back and reread my post without such blind and prejudicial hatred. If you actually went back and read it objectively you would see that I am 100% in favor of prosecuting the officers responsible for this. I also suggested that the investigation get completely taken out of the hands of HPD so that the “union thugs“ could not influence it in any way shape or form. That is exactly why I suggested that the investigation be handled by an agency from out of the state entirely so nobody could try to pull any favors or influence the investigation.
Somehow between you and aces you two extrapolated from that that means covering up criminal activities of other leos and “union goon”....
Maybe you were drinking when you read it the first time.
If It were up to me, on major incidents like this where citizens have lost their lives (even schitbirds, because I have no doubt that no matter how people try to paint it these two were not fine upstanding citizens) that the investigation needs to get farmed out to a distant agency.
I believe this is the part of your post that has got things sideways.
The people that got killed by the cops in this case weren't thugs, and didn't deserve to be hunted down and killed like thugs.
Or even schitbirds.
Whether or not you want to excrapolate on whether that's where you meant to go, or not, up to you.
I don't know the full details of the case, just the cliff notes about the seriously shady schit the lead narcotics cop did in regards to obtaining a warrant, and that is the perspective I was commenting from. Anytime some crap like what they pulled goes down, there is simply no way the department should be allowed to investigate it themselves. The fact that it resulted in a shootout with horrible results, reaffirms my belief that it needs to be independently investigated so nothing gets swept under the table. That is the whole point.
The schitbird comment derives from the fact that the whole story is from the dope world, and rarely are there any choir boys in that world. Perhaps these two are candidates for sainthood and beatification. I don't know anything about them. That comment was simply based off of years of working in that world (fortunately no more).
FWIW, the DA's office normally does the local investigation of possible police malfeasance in Texas jurisidictions of any size. Of course, there has to be an internal investigation also, as there are policies and procedures that also apply. The FBI will always be presented the case to review, as the civil rights aspect is their sole jurisdiction. The Texas Rangers are the detective division of DPS...the next step after highway patrol. They are used by small jurisdictions that typically have never investigated a real crime, much less one involving law enforcement.
Obviously, this won't appease the cop haters, but nothing will
Anytime some crap like what they pulled goes down, there is simply no way the department should be allowed to investigate it themselves. The fact that it resulted in a shootout with horrible results, reaffirms my belief that it needs to be independently investigated so nothing gets swept under the table. That is the whole point.
Any law enforcement agency worth a damn will have another agency do an independent investigation.
"I posted a link to a video by News Now Houston (NNH), he is a youtuber who does copwatch/1st amendment audit videos. In the video he shows a map of the house and allegedly how the shootout went down.
In the video the biggest new allegations were that the husband, Tuttle, was alive and left to bleed out for 2 hours before anyone went back in. NNH claims that a neighbor heard Tuttle crying out for over two hours. The neighbor additionally claims that prior to SWAT entering the home (after the 2 hours presumably), Tuttle who was downed in the initial shootout was given an anchor shot through a window."
Anytime some crap like what they pulled goes down, there is simply no way the department should be allowed to investigate it themselves. The fact that it resulted in a shootout with horrible results, reaffirms my belief that it needs to be independently investigated so nothing gets swept under the table. That is the whole point.
Any law enforcement agency worth a damn will have another agency do an independent investigation.
But still have to do their own. Why does anyone think this isn't going to be investigated elsewhere? (Cop hating regulars need not reply.)
Why does anyone think this isn't going to be investigated elsewhere? (Cop hating regulars need not reply.)
Don't know where my element falls within the periodic table of cop-haters, but the concern is two-fold:
1- Will there be an adequate independent investigation? I agree with you that there will be any number of investigations.
But , ya gotta admit, "authorities" have investigated the hell outta any number of obvious felonies, from illegal servers on down, and nothin happens.
SO,
2- The bigger concern is whether the matter will actually result in a credible disclosure of the actual facts and circumstances of the matter, and actual punishment of those responsible for two dead people.
This case hits a nerve, cause there ain't a person on the campfire that couldn't a been kicked in on like the H/W in this case.
If It were up to me, on major incidents like this where citizens have lost their lives (even schitbirds, because I have no doubt that no matter how people try to paint it these two were not fine upstanding citizens) that the investigation needs to get farmed out to a distant agency.
I believe this is the part of your post that has got things sideways.
The people that got killed by the cops in this case weren't thugs, and didn't deserve to be hunted down and killed like thugs.
Or even schitbirds.
Whether or not you want to excrapolate on whether that's where you meant to go, or not, up to you.
Thanks for that. I was trying to find out what turned this thread sideways.
The higher ups are all politicians and political appointees.
How much faith do you have in people like that?
I know how much I have after I spent roughly 2 decades being around them...
It's an opportunity for "the system" to either give regular people a reason to respect the law, or a reason to not GAS when a cop, who had nothin ta do with insanity like this case, gets whacked.
Hate ta pile a giant stacka responsibility on this jurisdiction, but this one is so far off the map.
The higher ups are all politicians and political appointees.
How much faith do you have in people like that?
I know how much I have after I spent roughly 2 decades being around them...
It's an opportunity for "the system" to either give regular people a reason to respect the law, or a reason to not GAS when a cop, who had nothin ta do with insanity like this case, gets whacked.
Hate ta pile a giant stacka responsibility on this jurisdiction, but this one is so far off the map.
No, "regular people" don't judge everybody on the acts of another.
Houston police to end use of no-knock warrants, chief says
The Houston Police Department will end its use of controversial no-knock warrants in most situations, Chief Art Acevedo said during a contentious town hall meeting three weeks after a deadly Pecan Park drug raid that left two people dead and five officers injured.
"The no-knock warrants are going to go away like leaded gasoline in this city," Acevedo told the crowd of activists, reformers and concerned community members gathered at Talento Bilingüe de Houston.
After the event - organized by the Greater Houston Coalition for Justice - Acevedo said any situation where a no-knock raid would be required would have to receive a special exemption from his office.
"I'm 99.9 percent sure we won't be using them," he said. "If for some reason there would be a specific case, that would come from my office."
Given the wounded officers and the two slain civilians, the chief said he didn't "see the value" in the controversial raids.
"So that's probably going to go by the wayside," he said.
The news came during the meeting late Monday after more than an hour of questions from a furious crowd that repeatedly pressed Acevedo on the conduct of his undercover officers, the use of no-knocks and inflammatory comments from Houston police union President Joe Gamaldi who recently seemed to suggest the department was surveilling law enforcement critics.
And, despite pushback earlier in the day from a defense lawyer representing the case agent at the center of the botched bust, Acevedo doubled down on his previous statements about the likelihood of charges against the police involved.
"I'm very confident we're going to have criminal charges on one or more of the officers," he said.
The crowd greeted his declaration with a chorus of angry voices demanding: "All of them."
Still, Acevedo said he wouldn't agree to let the Texas Ranger or the FBI take over the investigation.
"I feel very strongly that a police department that is not capable of investigating itself and finding malfeasance and criminal misconduct," he said, "we should just shut down -- and that's just not the case here."
Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg also tried to assure the crowd that her office would investigate and that bad actors would not be allowed off the hook, but pushed back against "mob justice."
"There is a process - it is the justice system," she said. "What you've seen is more accountability - grand juries are returning more true-bills, and we're prosecuting them."
When asked whether he would fire Gamaldi or others allegedly surveilling or harassing activists, Acevedo said he wouldn't deal with speculation. In response, activist Shere Dore fired back with an allegation that earlier in the day police came out and took pictures of protesters gathered outside
Houston police headquarters to demand murder charges against the case agent behind the raid.
Acevedo asked for video to look into the claim.
He went on to say that he would roll out a new policy in the coming weeks to make sure that undercovers wear body cameras; the fact that they didn't in the Harding Street raid was a point of contention afterward, given the lack of evidence to counter the initial narrative.
But Acevedo's sweeping announcements weren't enough to placate some of the town hall attendees.
One member of the audience, Tomaro Bell, expressed indignation over police use of no-knock warrants.
"I do believe this officer is going to be charged with murder," she said, of Goines. "But the systemic problems that exist in the undercover narcotics division will not be resolved with this officer charged with murder."
Relatives of several people killed in no-knock raids said they believe more investigation was needed before using the raid.
Aurora Charles said her brother, 55-year-old Ponciano Montemayor Jr., was killed during a no-knock raid in September 2013.
"I just want to see change, that's it," she said. "They've got to do their homework before they go in with these warrants."
For some in the crowd, the killing of the Tuttles brough back memories of the killing of Joe Campos Torres in 1977.
"We've been down this road before," said Johnny Mata, a longtime civil rights activist. Still, he tried to assure them.
"To those who feel down and depressed, that nothing has changed, ill tell you it has," he said.
But at the same time, he called on Gamaldi to reach out to activists.
"An apology is still needed," he said, suggesting the union could recall his election. "We don't need any demagoguery."
“The no-knock warrants are going to go away like leaded gasoline in this city”
Says the true chitbird Acevedo, the same guy who put that couple’s faces on camera and called ‘em “scumbags”, now scrambling to keep his job.
Scrambling to keep his job he takes away no-knock entries entirely. Obviously these things have a place which is why good guys like Lt Pat and McKay have done so many. So now Acevedo the prick chitbird grandstands, setting up more good Cops to get shot.
"I posted a link to a video by News Now Houston (NNH), he is a youtuber who does copwatch/1st amendment audit videos. In the video he shows a map of the house and allegedly how the shootout went down.
In the video the biggest new allegations were that the husband, Tuttle, was alive and left to bleed out for 2 hours before anyone went back in. NNH claims that a neighbor heard Tuttle crying out for over two hours. The neighbor additionally claims that prior to SWAT entering the home (after the 2 hours presumably), Tuttle who was downed in the initial shootout was given an anchor shot through a window."
“The no-knock warrants are going to go away like leaded gasoline in this city”
Says the true chitbird Acevedo, the same guy who put that couple’s faces on camera and called ‘em “scumbags”, now scrambling to keep his job.
Scrambling to keep his job he takes away no-knock entries entirely. Obviously these things have a place which is why good guys like Lt Pat and McKay have done so many. So now Acevedo the prick chitbird grandstands, setting up more good Cops to get shot.
I'm thinking it was Joe Gamaldi, the union president that called them dirtbags.
Looks like people are sure calling for Acevedo to be fired too.
"I posted a link to a video by News Now Houston (NNH), he is a youtuber who does copwatch/1st amendment audit videos. In the video he shows a map of the house and allegedly how the shootout went down.
In the video the biggest new allegations were that the husband, Tuttle, was alive and left to bleed out for 2 hours before anyone went back in. NNH claims that a neighbor heard Tuttle crying out for over two hours. The neighbor additionally claims that prior to SWAT entering the home (after the 2 hours presumably), Tuttle who was downed in the initial shootout was given an anchor shot through a window."
If found to be true someone should never experience life outside a cell again...
“The no-knock warrants are going to go away like leaded gasoline in this city”
Says the true chitbird Acevedo, the same guy who put that couple’s faces on camera and called ‘em “scumbags”, now scrambling to keep his job.
Scrambling to keep his job he takes away no-knock entries entirely. Obviously these things have a place which is why good guys like Lt Pat and McKay have done so many. So now Acevedo the prick chitbird grandstands, setting up more good Cops to get shot.
I'm thinking it was Joe Gamaldi, the union president that called them dirtbags.
Looks like people are sure calling for Acevedo to be fired too.
To be fair, Gloins, the lead Cop who wrote the shoddy warrant, pre-dates Acevedo or that weasely Police Union prick, but their response was such that they own it now.
Avecado says he is not letting the FBI nor the Texas Rangers “ take over the investigation “.
I’m pretty sure that the FBI doesn’t need an invitation from him to investigate potential Civil Rights infringements, but , absent a request from HPD or the County Sheriff, which State Official has the authority to send them to investigate? Is it only the Governor?
Avecado says he is not letting the FBI nor the Texas Rangers “ take over the investigation “.
I’m pretty sure that the FBI doesn’t need an invitation from him to investigate potential Civil Rights infringements, but , absent a request from HPD or the County Sheriff, which State Official has the authority to send them to investigate? Is it only the Governor?
The FBI can investigate civil rights violations whether they are called in by the department or not.
I've seen them do it.
Sometimes they will let the state prosecute under state law, but those terms are usually with a condition of conviction and minimum prison sentence.
If the D.A. fails to prosecute and get a conviction and minimum sentence, the the FBI & US Atty will prosecute under federal statutes and sentence accordingly upon conviction.
Embattled veteran Houston Police officer Gerald Goines routinely claimed it was too dangerous to knock on a suspected drug dealer’s home.
Goines swore in search warrant affidavits that “knocking and announcing would be dangerous, futile,” because he claimed a confidential informant had seen a gun inside. Those claims led judges to grant no-knock warrants, which accounted for 96 percent of all the search warrants he filed in the last seven years, a KHOU 11 Investigation has found.
But in every one of the more than 100 drug cases based off those warrants, there’s no record of Goines ever seizing a gun after executing a no-knock search warrant.
Those warrants are likely to be part of the District Attorney Kim Ogg’s review of Goines’ past cases that she pledged this week.
This deal sounded like a frame up from the git go. The surprising aspect is that the cover up was unsuccessful.
A couple of days ago, an unarmed guy was charged with murder because one cop shot another while shooting at the unarmed guy. Let that sink in and then compare that outcome with what is likely to happen here.
Didn't the dumbass run at the cops w/a fake gun pretending to be attacking/aiming it at the cops ?
The Houston Homeowner had a real gun and shot four cops before he was killed. In the other case, we don’t know what happened there, do we?
If cops hadn’t been shot in Houston, we would likely never have heard about the phony search warrant.
If cops had not been shot, the heroin from the console of the cop's car would have been planted inside the house, and it would have just been business as usual, with two dead perps.
Injured cops, calls for backup, ambulances, additional activity and extra witnesses, sure screws up the best laid plans.
Damned citizens with guns in their house anyway! What IS this country coming to.
People died and were injured as a result of the cop's illegal activity. If I were one of the cops that got injured because of his lie, I'd rattle his [bleep] teeth loose.
Decent cops are justifiably furious over this.
Our Constitution provides civil rights to protect us from govt. There are conditions when these are allowed, such as search warrants. When the ones that are supposed to be enforcing the laws are the ones breaking them and violating our Constitution, it causes distrust in the ones that are following the rule book, and trying to take the real bad guys out.
I'll lump in those sorry, POS, SOB's that lied to the FISA Court to obtain illegal warrants as well.
It is very clear that the Justice System... isn't anymore.
Lying to the courts doesn't seem to be a chargeable offense anymore. DemoRATS' favorite sport.
I had a cop charge me with reckless endangerment for target practicing within 1/2 mile of his mobile home. The DA called me up and said charges were dropped.
People died and were injured as a result of the cop's illegal activity. If I were one of the cops that got injured because of his lie, I'd rattle his [bleep] teeth loose.
Decent cops are justifiably furious over this.
Our Constitution provides civil rights to protect us from govt. There are conditions when these are allowed, such as search warrants. When the ones that are supposed to be enforcing the laws are the ones breaking them and violating our Constitution, it causes distrust in the ones that are following the rule book, and trying to take the real bad guys out.
I'll lump in those sorry, POS, SOB's that lied to the FISA Court to obtain illegal warrants as well.
It is very clear that the Justice System... isn't anymore.
Lying to the courts doesn't seem to be a chargeable offense anymore. DemoRATS' favorite sport.
When was it a problem as long as the victim of the lie is a peon? Brady has been around awhile.
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