He is back in the mix. I think his health has come back, as well as his game. He's very good at Augusta, so the rest of the field needs to watch out for him.
I was there last year. No matter what anybody says about that course, no matter how overblown the descriptions, it's all understated. It is simply indescribable. I was exhausted after one day, and I didn't walk the whole course. I cannot fathom how the players walk it four times, let alone the poor caddies in those coveralls and carrying 50-pound bags!
I'd like to see Rory complete his Grand Slam, or Rickie take it. I wouldn't shed a single tear if Tiger fell headfirst into Rae's Creek and drowned on live TV. I couldn't watch it today because of the Tiger brofest by the announcers, who all must have moist panties this evening.
I was there last year. No matter what anybody says about that course, no matter how overblown the descriptions, it's all understated. It is simply indescribable. I was exhausted after one day, and I didn't walk the whole course. I cannot fathom how the players walk it four times, let alone the poor caddies in those coveralls and carrying 50-pound bags!
I'd like to see Rory complete his Grand Slam, or Rickie take it. I wouldn't shed a single tear if Tiger fell headfirst into Rae's Creek and drowned on live TV. I couldn't watch it today because of the Tiger brofest by the announcers, who all must have moist panties this evening.
Tiger did more for the sport of golf than anyone.
It would be nice to see him successful again, IMO.
B. DeChambeau -6 F -6 T1 B. Koepka -6 17 -6 3 P. Mickelson -5 F -5 T4 I. Poulter -4 F -4 T4 D. Johnson -4 F -4 T6 J. Harding -3 F -3 T6 A. Scott -3 F -3 T6 J. Rahm -3 F -3 T6 K. Aphibarnrat -3 F -3 T6 K. Kisner -3 F -3 T11 C. Conners -2 F -2 T11 J. B. Holmes -2 F -2 T11 L. Bjerregaard -2 F -2 T11 G. Woodland -2 F -2 T11 T. Woods -2 F -2 T11 R. Fowler -2 F -2 T11 C. Smith -2 F -2 T11 P. Kizzire -2 F -2 T11 F. Molinari -2 F -2 T11 J. Day -2 F -2 T21 T. Finau -1 F -1 T21 L. Oosthuizen -1 F -1 T21 C. Hoffman -1 F -1 T21 T. Fleetwood -1 F -1 T21 K. Na -1 F -1 T21 T. Olesen -1 F -1 T21 B. Langer -1 F -1 T21 M. Kuchar -1 F -1 T29 A. Landry E F E T29 K. Tway E F E T29 K. Mitchell E F E T29 M. Weir E F E T29 S. Kim E F E T29 E. Grillo E F E T29 B. Grace E F E T29 K. Stanley E F E T29 W. Simpson E F E T29 V. Hovland E F E T29 M. Leishman E F E T29 H. Li E F E T29 J. Walker E F E T29 B. Horschel E F E T29 B. Watson E F E T44 T. Kanaya +1 F +1 T44 C. Howell III +1 F +1 T44 S. García +1 F +1 T44 P. Reed +1 F +1 T44 X. Schauffele +1 F +1 T44 R. McIlroy +1 F +1 T44 S. Lyle +1 F +1 T44 M. Kaymer +1 F +1 T44 A. Ortiz +1 F +1 T44 J. Rebula +1 F +1 T44 R. Cabrera-Bello +1 F +1 T44 T. Hatton +1 F +1 T44 P. Cantlay +1 F +1 T44 J. Thomas +1 F +1 T58 E. Pepperell +2 F +2 T58 H. Stenson +2 F +2 T58 T. Immelman +2 F +2 T58 D. Bling +2 F +2 T58 Z. Johnson +2 F +2 T63 A. Long +3 F +3 T63 A. Wise +3 F +3 T63 D. Willett +3 F +3 T63 B. Snedeker +3 F +3 T63 H. Matsuyama +3 F +3 T63 M. Wallace +3 F +3 T63 A. Norén +3 F +3 T63 S. Kodaira +3 F +3 T63 J. Rose +3 F +3 T63 J. Spieth +3 17 +3 T73 M. Kim +4 F +4 T73 S. Cink +4 F +4 T73 K. Bradley +4 F +4 T73 S. Imahira +4 F +4 T77 K. O'Connell +5 F +5 T77 C. Schwartzel +5 F +5 T77 L. Mize +5 F +5 T80 S. Lowry +6 F +6 T80 F. Couples +6 F +6 T80 J. Olazábal +6 F +6 T80 M. Fitzpatrick +6 F +6 84 P. Casey +7 17 +7 T85 I. Woosnam +8 F +8 T85 V. Singh +8 F +8 87 Á. Cabrera +10 F +10 All times are in Central Time Show less
Anyone who doesn't appreciate the Masters has probably never played the game. You can be firing on all cylinders one day and not able to hit a shot the next day or ever after for that matter. You never really master the game. I never saw the interest until I started playing at 45 years of age and regret all the years I missed now. Should be a great weekend of golf.
I've been a few times. That place never ceases to amaze me. It's perfect. Like Disney for golfers.
Speith is from Texas, so I suppose he's an illegal. The guy's game is off. He'll find it. He did more in 2015 than most PGA Tour players do in a lifetime. The fact that he can't do it year in and year out shows how extraordinary Tiger's accomplishments have been.
So many at the top can win it. I like Koepka. Strong dude, always the underdog, and he's won 3 of his last 6 majors. DJ, Phil, DeChambeau...all of them are certainly in it. The winner may not even be in 5 shots of the lead right now.
I'll be oaky with Tiger winning. Golf has been in a slump since Tiger went off the rails. It's quantifiable at tournaments, golf sales, and course play. When he does well, the game does well.
Last I saw he was on the verge of being cut.. He'll be lucky to be in the tournament to the end - and even then he'll be lucky to be higher than 20th..
Too bad.. He was quite a golfer 3-4 years ago.. The Masters is THE preeminent golf event every year..
Last I saw he was on the verge of being cut.. He'll be lucky to be in the tournament to the end - and even then he'll be lucky to be higher than 20th..
Too bad.. He was quite a golfer 3-4 years ago.. The Masters is THE preeminent golf event every year..
I believe the Masters 3 years ago has settled in his gray matter. He messed up on 13 (16?) twice and hasn't been the same since.
Koepka hasn't let any mishap bother him. He's the guy to watch. McIlroy and Spieth need to get their act together.
It’s a lot like shooting...chase your tail looking for utopia, buy every new gadget and believe whatcha got sold is the cure all.
And like shooting, it’s more fun when you just forget all the crap
And, like shooting, there are those who choose not to have an interest in it, and instead of quietly allowing others to enjoy it, feel the need to denigrate it as an activity.
I love spieth, but I think he won't come back, he had a hot 18 months, came out very young, won everything in sight, then poof, gone.
I hope he finds his way back, but he has a head issue, not a talent issue.
He's a great kid. I was watching some event and they were interviewing Gary Player and he said he wanted to speak to Spieth and point out one thing that would turn him around. I guess that conversation never took place.
I love spieth, but I think he won't come back, he had a hot 18 months, came out very young, won everything in sight, then poof, gone.
I hope he finds his way back, but he has a head issue, not a talent issue.
He's a great kid. I was watching some event and they were interviewing Gary Player and he said he wanted to speak to Spieth and point out one thing that would turn him around. I guess that conversation never took place.
Last I saw he was on the verge of being cut.. He'll be lucky to be in the tournament to the end - and even then he'll be lucky to be higher than 20th..
Too bad.. He was quite a golfer 3-4 years ago.. The Masters is THE preeminent golf event every year..
I believe the Masters 3 years ago has settled in his gray matter. He messed up on 13 (16?) twice and hasn't been the same since.
Koepka hasn't let any mishap bother him. He's the guy to watch. McIlroy and Spieth need to get their act together.
2016 Spieth was up by 5. He bogeyed 10,11, and took a quad on 12.
. . . I was watching some event and they were interviewing Gary Player and he said he wanted to speak to Spieth and point out one thing that would turn him around. . .
Stan . . . Would love to see you post a link to that conversation!
20 years ago I was stationed at Ft. Gordon. Not a golf fan but had heard of Augusta. You could still walk up and buy tickets for the practice rounds so I did. As a Midwest country boy I was truly amazed at how perfectly manicured the entire course was. I got down it the bottom of the ditches in the trees between the fairways and there was rake marks in the bottoms where some poor bastard had went down in there and cleaned up and groomed even there. Other thing I noticed is that the tv cameras don't do the course justice as to how steep and rolling some of the greens and parts of the course was.
. . . I was watching some event and they were interviewing Gary Player and he said he wanted to speak to Spieth and point out one thing that would turn him around. . .
Stan . . . Would love to see you post a link to that conversation!
Tiger is sort of stuck in neutral today so far, even through 8. Spieth had a good day (couple more to g0)
Dechambaue folded, I say good, can't stand the guy for some reason. Like his different approach, but he's done some things that make me not able to like him.
bunch of good names at the top today, Jason Day, DJ, Phil, Koepka seems to have pulled it back together after a rocky start
I need Rory to kick it in gear though! He's no where to be found.
Great pre-Masters Show on right now showing footage of all of Jack Nicklaus wins. There will never be another Golden Bear! The games between him and Palmer were epic. And the year ole Sam Snead nearly took the win from Jack was history in the making! Still the Greatest golfer ever!
Great pre-Masters Show on right now showing footage of all of Jack Nicklaus wins. There will never be another Golden Bear! The games between him and Palmer were epic. And the year ole Sam Snead nearly took the win from Jack was history in the making! Still the Greatest golfer ever!
Great pre-Masters Show on right now showing footage of all of Jack Nicklaus wins. There will never be another Golden Bear! The games between him and Palmer were epic. And the year ole Sam Snead nearly took the win from Jack was history in the making! Still the Greatest golfer ever!
Final round has been moved up tomorrow because they except thus storm system to move in there by then. The scores could change dramatically if that happens.
It would be a great comeback. He needs to finish at least tied for the lead or he'll also have to come from behind for the first time to win a major. He won't get much rest before tomorrow's round. In other words, I doubt he wins.
You have to admire tuger even if you don’t like him. He has fought his was back from surgeries, adversity, self doubt, and age. Not many could do that!
I hope tiger never wins another one.... cannot stand the wife cheater...
And I bet his wife was a perfect Saint while he was on tour....
GMAFB
DJ was doing coke and banging other players wives while he was married. You can't stand him either? There are a bunch of others, some from Jack's era, that messed around too. Walter Hagen was a man whore and the 3rd best golfer ever- don't like him either?
I could care less who wins.............just as long as it's not Tiger Woods. Yes, he's one of the greatest golfers of all time, but had he been White, he wouldn't have received half the attention he's gotten. He is a terrible role model, which is something that a lot of superstars are, but he's at the top of the list.
I could care less who wins.............just as long as it's not Tiger Woods. Yes, he's one of the greatest golfers of all time, but had he been White, he wouldn't have received half the attention he's gotten. He is a terrible role model, which is something that a lot of superstars are, but he's at the top of the list.
Anyone but Tiger, and I'll be happy.
I really liked him at one time. He turned out to be a terrible role model. He is also a cheap MF when it comes to tipping from what I’ve read about him.
Coming up to the turn for the leaders. Anybody's game right now. Weather is starting to pick up. 5 within 3 of the lead. Woods and Koepka are -1 for the day, Molinari even, Finau is even, and Cantaly is hot at -3 for the day. The back is going to be exciting.
i went to a 'comedy club' once back when the fad started in the 90's. turns out the draw wasn't humor, but the shock effect of a female, wouldn't say comedienne, using not-stop vulgarity. the joke was on everybody who paid to get in...idiotic
Don't follow this at all, but I do like to tune in when they play that course in Scotland. Land in the rough or a trap over there, and a person may never see daylight again.
Given the number of pros today, it does take some serious skills to be consistently hanging in the top ten or so.
He hasn't allowed himself to enjoy it yet. Self discipline taught to him by his old man, Lt. Col. Earl Woods, 5th Group SF. Two tours in Vietnam. I think he's finally got his head right. And he remembers what it feels like to win.
Jack's back 9 at Augusta National in 1986 is the stuff of legends and will stand the test of time. His early battles against Arnie and later Tom Watson are as impressive.
Golf has been around a long time. Hagen, Palmer, Nicklaus, Hogan, and Woods will always be at the top of my list. Nearly impossible to compare them because the equipment and courses are so different.
Jack's '86 round and this win for Tiger are on the same level.
Trivia: Who's the only person to have to put on the jacket himself?
I think Nicklaus, Faldo, and Woods have won consecutive Masters - no clue who put the jackets on for them.
Correct! When Jack won back to back in 65-66, there was no previous Champion to put it on him so Chairman Roberts said you'll just have to put it on yourself. They rectified the situation after that so the Chairman would present the green jacket to back to back winners Faldo and Woods.
Tiger winning is good for the game. Everyone likes to give second chances to people who are sorry for their mistakes. Tiger seems to be humble and has a good attitude. I'm sure he has learned one of life's lessons, the hard way.
My main objection to him is that if he'd been a White dude named Johnny Woods, he would not have gotten a tenth of the media coverage he has gotten. Because golf has traditionally been dominated by Whites, with the occasional Hispanic, Oriental, or Indian thrown in for good measure, it behooved the media to have a Black guy that was good at it, and Tiger was and now has made his "comeback".......the comeback that that same sports media has been talking about for years.
I don't like golf, and it doesn't matter to me whether he wins, or whether some European with a funny name does, but I do get tired of hearing about it. For the next year all that the sports media will be talking about will be how his winning the Masters is the greatest comeback ever in sports.......and not for one for one minute will they mention that there really aren't that many great golfers in the game right now. He got lucky, and more power to him, because he has the talent to win, and when you're that talented it really shouldn't be a surprise.......unless you're Black and the media idolizes you.
My main objection to him is that if he'd been a White dude named Johnny Woods, he would not have gotten a tenth of the media coverage he has gotten. Because golf has traditionally been dominated by Whites, with the occasional Hispanic, Oriental, or Indian thrown in for good measure, it behooved the media to have a Black guy that was good at it, and Tiger was and now has made his "comeback".......the comeback that that same sports media has been talking about for years.
I don't like golf, and it doesn't matter to me whether he wins, or whether some European with a funny name does, but I do get tired of hearing about it. For the next year all that the sports media will be talking about will be how his winning the Masters is the greatest comeback ever in sports.......and not for one for one minute will they mention that there really aren't that many great golfers in the game right now. He got lucky, and more power to him, because he has the talent to win, and when you're that talented it really shouldn't be a surprise.......unless you're Black and the media idolizes you.
I bet your daddy never grew tired of beating your ass.
That was fun to watch. Who doesn't like a comeback / redemption story? I'm not a big Tiger fan but this win is pretty sweet for him and the game of golf.
My main objection to him is that if he'd been a White dude named Johnny Woods, he would not have gotten a tenth of the media coverage he has gotten. Because golf has traditionally been dominated by Whites, with the occasional Hispanic, Oriental, or Indian thrown in for good measure, it behooved the media to have a Black guy that was good at it, and Tiger was and now has made his "comeback".......the comeback that that same sports media has been talking about for years.
I don't like golf, and it doesn't matter to me whether he wins, or whether some European with a funny name does, but I do get tired of hearing about it. For the next year all that the sports media will be talking about will be how his winning the Masters is the greatest comeback ever in sports.......and not for one for one minute will they mention that there really aren't that many great golfers in the game right now. He got lucky, and more power to him, because he has the talent to win, and when you're that talented it really shouldn't be a surprise.......unless you're Black and the media idolizes you.
I bet your daddy never grew tired of beating your ass.
Thanks for the visual. JJ never ceases to publicize his asinine ignorance.
Let's put this into perspective. Today was a great win and a solid comeback for Tiger and for the good of the game.
IMHO, the greatest comeback in golf belongs to Ben Hogan. Born in Texas, dad kills himself in front of the boy, Ben quits high school to go pro. Flew planes in the Army Air Corp during WWII, then starts winning on tour. Wins a bunch of tournaments and then gets into a head-on with a Greyhound in the late 40's with his wife. They're lucky to survive. He's all broken up, broken back, pelvis, ankle, ribs, etc. He's back on tour within a year. Wins everything there is to win; The Masters twice, the US Open 4 times, the British, and the PGA twice - all after the accident and after age 40. Medicine didn't even know what rehab was back then. He had the best swing in golf before or since, won 69 tournaments and 9 majors...he rarely played the PGA because his legs couldn't hold up much past 18 holes - before they changed the format, the PGA was 36 hole match play. That's the greatest comeback and I would think that Tiger would agree.
Let's put this into perspective. Today was a great win and a solid comeback for Tiger and for the good of the game.
IMHO, the greatest comeback in golf belongs to Ben Hogan. Born in Texas, dad kills himself in front of the boy, Ben quits high school to go pro. Flew planes in the Army Air Corp during WWII, then starts winning on tour. Wins a bunch of tournaments and then gets into a head-on with a Greyhound in the late 40's with his wife. They're lucky to survive. He's all broken up, broken back, pelvis, ankle, ribs, etc. He's back on tour within a year. Wins everything there is to win; The Masters twice, the US Open 4 times, the British, and the PGA twice - all after the accident and after age 40. Medicine didn't even know what rehab was back then. He had the best swing in golf before or since, won 69 tournaments and 9 majors...he rarely played the PGA because his legs couldn't hold up much past 18 holes - before they changed the format, the PGA was 36 hole match play. That's the greatest comeback and I would think that Tiger would agree.
I once took golf lessons from an old timer who actually played a few rounds with Hogan.
Let's put this into perspective. Today was a great win and a solid comeback for Tiger and for the good of the game.
IMHO, the greatest comeback in golf belongs to Ben Hogan. Born in Texas, dad kills himself in front of the boy, Ben quits high school to go pro. Flew planes in the Army Air Corp during WWII, then starts winning on tour. Wins a bunch of tournaments and then gets into a head-on with a Greyhound in the late 40's with his wife. They're lucky to survive. He's all broken up, broken back, pelvis, ankle, ribs, etc. He's back on tour within a year. Wins everything there is to win; The Masters twice, the US Open 4 times, the British, and the PGA twice - all after the accident and after age 40. Medicine didn't even know what rehab was back then. He had the best swing in golf before or since, won 69 tournaments and 9 majors...he rarely played the PGA because his legs couldn't hold up much past 18 holes - before they changed the format, the PGA was 36 hole match play. That's the greatest comeback and I would think that Tiger would agree.
And Prime Ben Hogan against Prime Tiger Woods ?......lol, that's perspective
Tiger was was a guy who was never comfortable in his skin. He played golf because of his father and it is what he’s always done. I read where he wanted to join the military and be a special forces guy at one point. I’m hoping this means he’s come to terms with his unhappiness and is at peace inside. I had a pretty wise man tell me that if you make a job out of something you like you will burn out and start to dislike it. If you stick with it you eventually come back around and start to like it again. I’m hoping this is where Tiger is now. Playing because he wants to play and not because of his father , expectations , and contracts.
Let's put this into perspective. Today was a great win and a solid comeback for Tiger and for the good of the game.
IMHO, the greatest comeback in golf belongs to Ben Hogan. Born in Texas, dad kills himself in front of the boy, Ben quits high school to go pro. Flew planes in the Army Air Corp during WWII, then starts winning on tour. Wins a bunch of tournaments and then gets into a head-on with a Greyhound in the late 40's with his wife. They're lucky to survive. He's all broken up, broken back, pelvis, ankle, ribs, etc. He's back on tour within a year. Wins everything there is to win; The Masters twice, the US Open 4 times, the British, and the PGA twice - all after the accident and after age 40. Medicine didn't even know what rehab was back then. He had the best swing in golf before or since, won 69 tournaments and 9 majors...he rarely played the PGA because his legs couldn't hold up much past 18 holes - before they changed the format, the PGA was 36 hole match play. That's the greatest comeback and I would think that Tiger would agree.
My favorite golfer of all time . . . "Five Lessons" - Ben Hogan (get it if you want to play better golf)
You don't luck into the green jacket. Especially after major back surgery. No matter what happens from here on out, he made a complete comeback. Climbed the mountain again. Earned it. The MASTERS!
I am rooting for him to do that personally as well, if he hasn't done so already. Not for me to judge either way on that score. I hope The Man Upstairs is merciful in that regard, seeing as I'll need some mercy myself.
Kudos Tiger Woods. Set some thing right today, and that's always a good thing.
You don't luck into the green jacket. Especially after major back surgery. No matter what happens from here on out, he made a complete comeback. Climbed the mountain again. Earned it. The MASTERS!
I am rooting for him to do that personally as well, if he hasn't done so already. Not for me to judge either way on that score. I hope The Man Upstairs is merciful in that regard, seeing as I'll need some mercy myself.
Kudos Tiger Woods. Set some thing right today, and that's always a good thing.
You don't luck into the green jacket. Especially after major back surgery. No matter what happens from here on out, he made a complete comeback. Climbed the mountain again. Earned it. The MASTERS!
I am rooting for him to do that personally as well, if he hasn't done so already. Not for me to judge either way on that score. I hope The Man Upstairs is merciful in that regard, seeing as I'll need some mercy myself.
Kudos Tiger Woods. Set some thing right today, and that's always a good thing.
KUDOS, indeed.
Two years ago this is a guy who needed a nerve block in his spine to even be able to walk to the Champions dinner. He could hardly walk, never mind play any golf. America loves a comeback story and this one is one for the ages. The patrons made the ground shake at Augusta this afternoon. And his closest competitors wilted amid the chaos. This win is Great for golf too.
overall, it was a weird tournament. the condition of the course, signature difficulty, was ruined by the weather. Then today's schedule. Could Tiger have won under more typical conditions?
overall, it was a weird tournament. the condition of the course, signature difficulty, was ruined by the weather. Then today's schedule. Could Tiger have won under more typical conditions?
overall, it was a weird tournament. the condition of the course, signature difficulty, was ruined by the weather. Then today's schedule. Could Tiger have won under more typical conditions?
Lemme see...OJ is a lying murderer and Tyson is a lisping rapist. Both did time. Tiger screwed around on his wife. Yep, that's apples to apples. SMH.
now wait, chuck, tiger's screwin around was epic, way out there
Agreed. And Mick Jagger has 8 kids with 5 women. I think it comes with the territory - superstardom. If you're at the top, women kind of throw themselves at them. Jordan, Woods, Jagger,...the list goes on forever. Not saying it's right, but it's certainly part of that super-celebrity limelight.
Tyson and OJ are felons. One damn near cut his wife's head off. The other raped an 18 year old beauty queen. Both should be locked up.
What? If you can’t see the parallels in their careers, you’re straight kooky dukes.
Feel free to break it down for me.
It ain’t complicated and hardly needs “breaking down”.
I’d start with both achieving incredible success and titles at 20 years of age, the youngest ever in both of their respective fields, and follow right on through their domination until father figures were lost, lives unraveled, and they both became tabloid fodder complete with mug shots and crazy azz sex allegations.
Tiger was was a guy who was never comfortable in his skin. He played golf because of his father and it is what he’s always done. I read where he wanted to join the military and be a special forces guy at one point.
Wouldn't doubt it. His old man served our nation honorably, I've read.
"Earl Dennison Woods was born March 5, 1932, in Manhattan, Kan., raised there and went to college there — at Kansas State, which granted him a scholarship as a baseball catcher. At the time he was the only black athlete in the Big Seven (now the Big 12). He earned a degree in sociology in 1953, joined the Army in 1954 and stayed 20 years. He did two tours of duty in Vietnam and attained the rank of lieutenant colonel in the Green Berets."
On his folks: "Tiger Woods’ guiding lights were a bull of man — his father, Earl — and a tiny woman — his mother, Kultida.
Together, they helped shape the kid he was and the man he would become. But it wasn’t the infantry officer who served two combat tours during the Vietnam War and was a member of the elite U.S. Army Special Forces who was the disciplinarian. No, the shortest member of the Woods household held sway.
“As we said in our family, my mom was the hand, and my dad was the voice. I could negotiate with him, but not with my mom. There was no middle ground with Mom,” Woods wrote in The 1997 Masters: My Story (Grand Central Publishing) released March 20. With Canadian Golf Hall of Fame writer Lorne Rubenstein, Woods reflects on his life inside and outside the ropes that led to his historic march to the green jacket in 1997.
In an exclusive interview with USA TODAY Sports, Woods said his parents never pushed him to play golf and never were disappointed no matter what score he shot. The two were equally influential when it came to his studies, curfew and his treatment of others."
Golf has never held more than a passing interest for me, but I applaud any guy who is able to rise from the ashes--even if the ashes were a result of a fire he started himself--and push through and succeed in the highest level after years of being written off.
Well, congrats to him.. But he didn't win it so much as the others lost it - Molinari caved like a cheap tent; lost four strokes in what, 3 holes?? All Woodsie-boy hadda do is just be patient and let the others run outta gas on the last lap.. What really saved Woods' azz was his iron shots.. Gotta hand it to him - NOBODY hits irons like Woods when he's on.. Landing shot after shot within mere feet (or less) of the flag..
Well, congrats to him.. But he didn't win it so much as the others lost it - Molinari caved like a cheap tent; lost four strokes in what, 3 holes?? All Woodsie-boy hadda do is just be patient and let the others run outta gas on the last lap.. What really saved Woods' azz was his iron shots.. Gotta hand it to him - NOBODY hits irons like Woods when he's on.. Landing shot after shot within mere feet (or less) of the flag..
Tiger's victory is a good story. And all credit to him for the win. His knowledge of Augusta National, and how to play it, is better than anybody currently playing. He managed the course better than his closest competitors on Sunday. If there was a major that you'd bet Tiger could win again..........it would have been the Masters. The competition is fierce these days, and Tiger doesn't have the transcendent talent he had 20 years ago. I'm not ready to jump on the Tiger bandwagon. I think Jack's 18 majors record is safe.
If you thought the sycophancy was ceaseless before, wait until the next time Woods plays. The TV crew will follow NObody else, and there will be nothing but adulation and orgasmic praise of their little god.
If you thought the sycophancy was ceaseless before, wait until the next time Woods plays. The TV crew will follow NObody else, and there will be nothing but adulation and orgasmic praise of their little god.
Tiger's 43 years old...............8-18 years older than the best golfers on tour. Guys without weaknesses, and physical strengths and state-of-the-art fitness regimens. The things which gave Tiger his edge in his turn of the century run. What's his realistic top playing life? Another 3 years? You honestly take Tiger against the field for another 3-4 majors?
Tiger's 43 years old...............8-18 years older than the best golfers on tour. Guys without weaknesses, and physical strengths and state-of-the-art fitness regimens. The things which gave Tiger his edge in his turn of the century run. What's his realistic top playing life? Another 3 years? You honestly take Tiger against the field for another 3-4 majors?
What gave Tiger his edge was his mind set. If he has that back, as it seems he may, he can do it. Back in the day, Woods won because he was mentally determined to win, to a degree that no other player could match. I think he as a very reasonable shot at it, and he has 3 majors left, just this year. Pebble Beach will be worth a watch and he will be heavily favored.
Jack was 46 with the physique of the Pillsbury doughboy when he last won Augusta in 86. Phil is 48, almost 49, and was in contention this year with a -6. Freddy put up a couple good rounds past the age of 50 and Watson damn near won the British at 65. Tiger works out every morning before playing- I've seen it. His physique is unmatched for his age. If his back holds out, I see him having 10-12 years of truly competitive golf ahead of him. As for the mind set, you could see he was in the zone yesterday - haven't seen that look in 10 years from him.
Jack was 46 with the physique of the Pillsbury doughboy when he last won Augusta in 86. Phil is 48, almost 49, and was in contention this year with a -6. Freddy put up a couple good rounds past the age of 50 and Watson damn near won the British at 65. Tiger works out every morning before playing- I've seen it. His physique is unmatched for his age. If his back holds out, I see him having 10-12 years of truly competitive golf ahead of him. As for the mind set, you could see he was in the zone yesterday - haven't seen that look in 10 years from him.
There is a very good possibility Tiger will go down in history as the best, as a matter of fact I think he may already be there just by the way he plays, the man has no equal.
Just think how good he would have been if he hadn't fuqked up his life so much, hell if his back wouldn't have given him problems he'd be on top statistic wise right now.
Ha! Re-reading what I wrote and it does sound kinda gay. Lol.
Seriously though. Jack and his generation - the Walrus, Ray Floyd, all those cats were kinda middle age men. Didn't work out, kinda doughy, and they peaked about 40.
Tiger has a serious workout regimen. And if you stood next to him you'd see he has a V shaped torso and not a pear shape as the generation of golfers before him. The golfers coming along after him, this new generation, are using the physical discipline that Tiger sort of pioneered on the tour. There are outlyers to be sure... Reed, Herron, Stadler #2, Gore, etc. But because of their bodies, they won't last the long haul. It's just too much strain on the joints and muscles.
Being a, ahem, John Daly physique myself, I could always hit the ball a long way, but now have a draw/hook because of my gut. No matter, Big Tool = Big Shed, right?
Jack was 46 with the physique of the Pillsbury doughboy when he last won Augusta in 86. Phil is 48, almost 49, and was in contention this year with a -6. Freddy put up a couple good rounds past the age of 50 and Watson damn near won the British at 65. Tiger works out every morning before playing- I've seen it. His physique is unmatched for his age. If his back holds out, I see him having 10-12 years of truly competitive golf ahead of him. As for the mind set, you could see he was in the zone yesterday - haven't seen that look in 10 years from him.
There is a very good possibility Tiger will go down in history as the best, as a matter of fact I think he may already be there just by the way he plays, the man has no equal.
Just think how good he would have been if he hadn't fuqked up his life so much, hell if his back wouldn't have given him problems he'd be on top statistic wise right now.
He's good there's no doubt. The numbers are there. Too hard to compare eras to say he was the best. Give Hagen a jumbo clubhead with some boron/graphite shaft and a ProV1 ball then look out! Sorta like one of those old Sharps shooters from the late 1800's that were so accurate going up against the Bergara boys at a 1000 yards with the best optics.
As for Tiger, the pressure cooker blew when his wife found out about his extracurricular activities. His mind was toast after that. Very private guy with his world laid open. Went to sex therapy classes for a couple years. His body gave out too. Broken leg during the 2008 US Open, numerous back surgeries led to pain killers and that not so pretty arrest. Is that behind him? I think so. IT was 10 years ago. His focus are his kids and his game now. I think he grew up a bit. His ex-wife Elin is doing okay too - reports are a $100mm worth of okay.
He's good there's no doubt. The numbers are there. Too hard to compare eras to say he was the best. Give Hagen a jumbo clubhead with some boron/graphite shaft and a ProV1 ball then look out! Sorta like one of those old Sharps shooters from the late 1800's that were so accurate going up against the Bergara boys at a 1000 yards with the best optics.
As for Tiger, the pressure cooker blew when his wife found out about his extracurricular activities. His mind was toast after that. Very private guy with his world laid open. Went to sex therapy classes for a couple years. His body gave out too. Broken leg during the 2008 US Open, numerous back surgeries led to pain killers and that not so pretty arrest. Is that behind him? I think so. IT was 10 years ago. His focus are his kids and his game now. I think he grew up a bit. His ex-wife Elin is doing okay too - reports are a $100mm worth of okay.
Physical breakdowns are going to cause mental breakdowns in somebody like Woods.
As far as I'm concerned the only athlete that he should (maybe) be compared to is Michael Jordan.
Jack was 46 with the physique of the Pillsbury doughboy when he last won Augusta in 86. Phil is 48, almost 49, and was in contention this year with a -6. Freddy put up a couple good rounds past the age of 50 and Watson damn near won the British at 65. Tiger works out every morning before playing- I've seen it. His physique is unmatched for his age. If his back holds out, I see him having 10-12 years of truly competitive golf ahead of him. As for the mind set, you could see he was in the zone yesterday - haven't seen that look in 10 years from him.
Exactly. I don’t play golf and generally don’t watch golf being played. But I do like to watch the masters for the simple fact of how perfect everything is.
I don’t have a favorite golfer but anyone that can beat the players before they even tee off has to be something to be reckoned with. I only saw about an hour of it yesterday but he was clearly in much better shape physically than the rest. Looked as if he was hitting the weights pretty good.
I’m sure hookers were lined up at his door last night like wilt chamberlain used to have. Good for him.
Jack was 46 with the physique of the Pillsbury doughboy when he last won Augusta in 86. Phil is 48, almost 49, and was in contention this year with a -6. Freddy put up a couple good rounds past the age of 50 and Watson damn near won the British at 65. Tiger works out every morning before playing- I've seen it. His physique is unmatched for his age. If his back holds out, I see him having 10-12 years of truly competitive golf ahead of him. As for the mind set, you could see he was in the zone yesterday - haven't seen that look in 10 years from him.
Tiger works out every morning to get his back loosened up to play 18. He was up at 3:30-4:00 AM Sunday to meet a 9:20AM tee time.
Jack was in better shape in 1986 than he was in the first half of the career majors he won. He also still had the game to play at Augusta. Likely the only major he could have won at that time.......his words. In the next 12 years he had single-digit finishes twice. At the Masters. He shot an incredible 65 in the last round of the '86 Masters. And was gifted by Greg Norman, coming down 18 tied for the lead, and air mailing his approach from the middle of the fairway.......into the gallery. Tiger was similarly gifted by four players in contention, in the last two threesomes, dumping short irons into Rae's Creek on the 157 yard par 3 #12. They all suffered doubles. The penalty for being long on that pin position is severe. Well...............perhaps not as severe as being short and finding the drink, but Tiger didn't even attempt that shot at the pin. He bisected the traps intentionally. Course management.
All credit to Tiger for this comeback from a lengthy absence and this majors win. But I think there's something Tiger fans are dismissing. To win another 3-4 majors............he'll have to play better. Because his competition will. And there's a lot more great players now than he ever faced before.
I admire Tiger's resurrection of his successful play, but more I appreciate the fact that he appears to have become more human in his relation to the rest of the world. My only regret in his winning is that now, after the media's complete and total infatuation with him before and during the Masters will continue unabated at least through next year's Masters, with any and all developments as regards professional golf playing minor roles.
Jack was 46 with the physique of the Pillsbury doughboy when he last won Augusta in 86. Phil is 48, almost 49, and was in contention this year with a -6. Freddy put up a couple good rounds past the age of 50 and Watson damn near won the British at 65. Tiger works out every morning before playing- I've seen it. His physique is unmatched for his age. If his back holds out, I see him having 10-12 years of truly competitive golf ahead of him. As for the mind set, you could see he was in the zone yesterday - haven't seen that look in 10 years from him.
He's had spinal fusion done. That's going to trash the discs immediately above and below the fused discs rather quick if he continues to play golf at the level he is. That said, I hope it doesn't happen.
i never said i didn't like tiger woods, hard to over-state the accomplishment. it is a fact the course was softened up, with the greens playing unusually easy. The commentators pointed this out numerous times, evidently no-one here understood or listened. plus the others caved like babies under the pressure, and due to the ramifications of the come-back, and all of tiger's fans in tow. It was the moment, and the contenders' stumbling allowed him to win with a bogey. He was lucky to benefit from these factors. if no one else agrees, WTH do i care
Contrast that to Jack's last win, he had to shoot sub-par on the back nine to steal away with the victory.
i never said i didn't like tiger woods, hard to over-state the accomplishment. it is a fact the course was softened up, with the greens playing unusually easy. The commentators pointed this out numerous times, evidently no-one here understood or listened. plus the others caved like babies under the pressure, and due to the ramifications of the come-back, and all of tiger's fans in tow. It was the moment, and the contenders' stumbling allowed him to win with a bogey. He was lucky to benefit from these factors. if no one else agrees, WTH do i care
Contrast that to Jack's last win, he had to shoot sub-par on the back nine to steal away with the victory.
The greens were “softened up” for everyone. Tiger held himself together and took advantage. With the mindset I saw he’d have held himself together if the greens had been rock hard and blazing fast. In fact the I’m of the opinion that the also rans would have folded sooner with tougher conditions.
There were 10 players within 3 strokes of the lead at the turn. Only Tiger took full advantage. JD, Schauffele, and Day made runs at it, but didn't have enough holes left to win. The pressure got to Molinari after 50 something holes of bogey free golf. He put 2 in the drink for a 74 and it was all over.
In '86 Jack birdied six of the last 10 holes and threw an eagle in there to boot. Impressive. Actually, legend.
In '86 Norman started 4 up on Jack on the back 9 with Norman leading at the turn -7 and Jack at -3. Jack ended up winning at -9 and Norman could only manage to shoot a 35 on the back for -8. You might say Norman choked for not getting more red numbers on the back...and that wouldn't be the last time he did that at Augusta either.
Fun fact: 58 year old Jack made a run in 1998 and was in it until midway thru the back nine. Winner was Mark O'Meara at -9, Jack at -5, and a young punk on the tour named Tiger at -3.
i never said i didn't like tiger woods, hard to over-state the accomplishment. it is a fact the course was softened up, with the greens playing unusually easy. The commentators pointed this out numerous times, evidently no-one here understood or listened. plus the others caved like babies under the pressure, and due to the ramifications of the come-back, and all of tiger's fans in tow. It was the moment, and the contenders' stumbling allowed him to win with a bogey. He was lucky to benefit from these factors. if no one else agrees, WTH do i care
Contrast that to Jack's last win, he had to shoot sub-par on the back nine to steal away with the victory.
The greens were “softened up” for everyone. Tiger held himself together and took advantage. With the mindset I saw he’d have held himself together if the greens had been rock hard and blazing fast. In fact the I’m of the opinion that the also rans would have folded sooner with tougher conditions.
Yeah, nobody ever folded from seeing Jack coming from behind...he didn't intimidate anyone lol