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They're so cheap in the stores that the ground can be better used for other things. My wife bought a 20lb sack last week for under $3. They're so cheap now that farmers can hardly afford to harvest them.

HEYBURN — Rod Lake grabs a shovel out of his truck and walks down a row in one of his deep-green potato fields. He throws the shovel into the soil and tips over a plant; roots around in the dirt and pulls out a few fist-sized spuds. They’re big for this time of year, he says.

But for Lake, owner of Lake Ag, this healthy field probably won’t fetch him the return he’d like come fall. Persistently low spud prices, rarely higher than the break-even point, have plagued Idaho farmers for years. Low prices have even pushed some growers to consider getting out of potatoes in favor of other crops.

While potato economics are incredibly complex, influenced by yearly acreage fluctuations, weather, the strength of the dollar, international trade agreements and other factors, the low prices have one primary cause.

“We have too many people selling the same thing,” Idaho Potato Commission Chairman Randy Hardy said bluntly.

Simple supply and demand?
Oversupply isn’t a new problem for Idaho spud growers. Lake said the last time prices were good was five years ago. Prices are trending up right now simply because it’s July, far away from the harvest season, but in general, farmers are settling for prices barely above break-even.

Lake has heard from farmers happy with a price of $6.50 for a hundred-pound sack, which strikes him as disappointingly low. In an ideal world, he’d like to see $7.50.

The oversupply issue isn’t a national one, Idaho Farm Bureau Federation Director of Commodities Zak Miller said. Idaho’s supply issue is especially problematic.

Hardy compared the situation to having 17 Ford dealerships in one town.

“The only way to sell your truck is to lower your price,” he said.

The natural solution would seem to be to limit production, but that’s easier said than done.

“You’re not going to get Idaho farmers to cut production,” University of Idaho Extension Agricultural Economist Ben Eborn said.

Growers end up competing with each other directly. Lake explained that if one farmer lowers their price, it can force a neighbor to accept a lower figure, too. The same applies to potato packers. If everyone held firm on a high price, everyone would benefit, but when one person sells lower, it can end up impacting everyone.

Coordination would likely help growers, but it’s probably a long shot. For one, farmers can’t fix prices — that would be illegal. And the odds of getting Idaho’s 600 spud farmers to join one big co-op are exceedingly long.

Figuring out how to encourage farmers to coordinate, without breaking the law, is a challenge.

“That’s not a million-dollar question,” Miller said. “That’s a billion-dollar question.”

Fostering more dialogue and better relationships between growers is the best tool the Farm Bureau has, Miller said. If farmers get along better, compete in a friendlier way, it could lead to better profits for everyone. At the same time, there are laws that prohibit farmers from colluding, so it’s difficult.

Spud growers have little power over their own market. Typically, high prices come when one potato-producing region experiences a natural disaster. For example, if Midwestern growers have a difficult year, Idaho and other western states would likely benefit.

A lack of processing capability also contributes to low prices for Idaho growers. But processors don’t want to have to fight for potatoes, instead preferring an ample, guaranteed supply.

“That’s the No. 1 rule for any processor,” Eborn said, “and the No. 2 and No. 3 rule: Do not run out of potatoes.”

An oversupply benefits processors, because it allows them to operate continuously.

Some experts said increased processing capacity would be beneficial, and noted that Idaho is an attractive, cost-effective state for the industry. Still, Eborn thinks the benefits, while helpful, would be temporary.

“If we get a little expansion, we will just plant more potatoes and we’ll be in the same boat that we’re in,” he explained.

Market drivers
Some industry experts said that U.S. Department of Agriculture reports haven’t been helping Idaho farmers. The USDA’s National Agricultural Statistics Service over reports potato production, Hardy said. According to the Potato Commission’s count, the report overestimated production by 7,000 acres and 2 million sacks last year. An acre of potatoes can produce about 410 sacks.

That can hurt farmers because processors might point to the reports when negotiating contract figures, although some say the impact of the reports has been overblown.

The Trump Administration’s trade policies play a role as well. Hardy said that President Donald Trump’s withdrawal from the Trans Pacific Partnership has hurt the Japanese french fry market, and if the issue isn’t resolved soon, growers could feel more pain in the future.

Not small potatoes
The field Lake stands in, backdropped by the South Hills, covers 40 acres. The field makes up just a small percentage of the 1,500 acres of potatoes he’s growing this year. Nowhere in that acreage will you find the variety farmers call fresh potatoes.

For potatoes destined to become french fries, potato chips or dehydrated potatoes, prices are negotiated beforehand. Fresh potato prices tend to fluctuate more, so in the past, Lake would dedicate half a pivot of his crop to fresh potatoes.

At these prices, there’s no point.

“I just got tired of the fight,” he said.

While Lake is still growing potatoes, he’s strongly considering getting out of the crop. It’s just the right business decision, he said, and he doesn’t get attached to potatoes just because he’s an Idaho farmer. Others are more set in their ways, and will grow potatoes regardless of the market.

Miller said it’s concerning to see farmers have to leave potatoes, even if they might not want to. Potatoes have a high cost of production, he explained, which means smaller farmers, who might have limited financial resources, are typically the first to stop growing spuds.

The total acreage doesn’t end up changing, but the number of growers declines. In fact, the number of Idaho spud farmers has declined by half in the past 25 years, Hardy said.

The commodities market in general is compounding farmers’ woes. There’s money in alfalfa right now, and sugar beets are doing well, but wheat and corn are low like potatoes.

Still, there’s some cause for optimism. Hardy said that, while prices aren’t where farmers would like them to be, they’re up a bit. Eborn pointed out that exports have been generally strong.

In addition to a few positive signs, September is still a couple of months away.

“A lot can happen between now and harvest time,” Eborn said. “We’ll wait and see how it goes.”
$80K an acre in hemp?
You cant buy a decent potato in north central Montana.


I have a few tater plants in the ground.....

Labor Day weekend fresh french fries in the cast iron pot
I have always planted potatoes in the garden, and up until a few years ago, had very good luck. The last several years my potato crop has sucked, with the exception being the red ones, which do better than the white ones. Since they are so cheap in the stores, about all I grow now are just enough to have a few to cook with fresh peas and beans.
I quit growing them when Coop quit selling Thiodan. I can't keep the damn tater bugs from eating them.
Potatoes, tomatoes, okra, beans, and corn may survive to hail this year.
I grow my taters in half barrels. They do well. Yep they are cheap in the stores, but I like to know where my food comes from when I can.
And then there is Idaho's neighbor, Washington state. Washington has the highest per acre potato yields in the world. It's has the largest potato growing county in the United states. Idaho produces about 28% of the USA production. Washington produces 21% of the USA production and does that with far fewer growers than Idaho. Idaho ships about half it's production as fresh pack. Washington ships about 13% of it's production fresh pack. Idaho growers talks about bags per acre. Washington growers talk about tons per acre with some varieties going over 60 Tons per acre. Washington potatoes are highly would after by processors because of quality and solid content.


If you combine the Hermiston and Boardman area, which are part of same growing area, production with Washington....you have a production that exceeds Idaho.

Most Idaho potatoes, which I find in the store, have quality issues. IE Bruising, wire worm damage and nematode damage.

Washington state growers need more ground for production.
http://www.producenews.com/the-prod...rowers-struggling-to-keep-up-with-demand
A long time friend who owned a machine and welding shop, mostly servicing farms and ranches, in times like this, would often wryly comment, "never underestimate the American farmer's ability to overproduce himself out of a market."
Originally Posted by gregintenn
I quit growing them when Coop quit selling Thiodan. I can't keep the damn tater bugs from eating them.


Get Potato Beatle Beater................it works.
I just pay the kids a quarter per potato bug.
I've gotten to putting the potatoes on top of the ground, and covering with a thick layer of straw or old hay. May not have the yields of those that are grown in the dirt, but they're clean.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
You cant buy a decent potato in north central Montana.



Or here in Nebraska either.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
You cant buy a decent potato in north central Montana.


North Central ID isn't much better Jim.

There's lots of good taters in So. ID but Wheat and Beans are the money crop up here.
Yeah, well....I'm doing my part. I insist on idaho potatoes.

Wife picked up some fakers grown in florida, and they didn't seem right right. Just blahh.
Most of Idaho's potatoes are grown in the Snake River plain across so. Idaho. The soil is volcanic which spuds seem to like. Also, the higher altitude, hot days and cool night agree with them.
The Bible never mentioned volcanoes in Idaho
Originally Posted by slumlord
The Bible never mentioned volcanoes in Idaho

It never mentions cats either but look how many of them there are.
It didn't mention Vesuvius either but a few years later it got lively there.
Competition? Price structure? Low prices?
Try selling a barrel of crude oil.
Too cheap for the work it takes!
i used to like to grow them just so i could go out into the garden a dig a pile up. but ya, hardly worth the effort. and truth be told, my never compared to good store bought.
Genesis 1:12 "And the earth brought forth grass, herb yielding seed after its kind, and tree bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after its kind; and God saw that it was good."
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I just can’t help myself!
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by gregintenn
I quit growing them when Coop quit selling Thiodan. I can't keep the damn tater bugs from eating them.


Get Potato Beatle Beater................it works.

Thanks. Never heard of it.

I've never tried growing red potatoes. I might plant a row next year and see what happens.

Damn! It's 20 bucks plus a can. I can buy a lot of taters for that.
Well, according to the news thousands of farmers are flooded out to their north and east where there will be drastic decreases in corn production are prices are predicted to skyrocket.
Originally Posted by fuzzytail
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I just can’t help myself!

Very nice work, did you use some Kinda fertilizer ?
I dug up about 30 pounds of Yukon Gold and Reds. I love growing them because I can put them in the ground early and enjoy watching all that biomass come up. Sure you can buy them, but I think mine taste better. I use raised beds. A 4x12 bed gave me 30 pounds, which is plenty for us. I really like digging them up. I don't use fertilizer in my beds, just home made compost and mulch. Most of it comes from my chicken coop. For me, it's not about saving money as much as growing and killing my own food.
We used to come home from Ag class and tell our folks all about cheaper goodies in the store than we could grow in that big ass garden out back.
They paid absolutely no attention to us. This was back in the 1950s.
growing up we grew the kennebecs as the main crop and pontiacs as the early, small crop.

it was all work and no play. but the yield was always good after the tater beetles were controlled.

money wasn't a factor as how cheap they were in the local store. without money labor is the high king.
My store potatoes dont keep. Never know what I will find when I cut one either
I do like a good baked potato drowning in butter, chives, and sour cream
Used 10-10-10 in bottom of rows before hilling them up. When I saw the first bloom I put out urea( 50+% nitrogen) and side dressed with hiller to give more growing room!
I grow my own because they're ten times better than the ones in the store... And they keep better too... I grow Kennebecs and either Pontiac or Norgold for early reds..
I only grow weird varieties, the most common of what I grow in my little garden is Yukons. Otherwise it's purple potatoes or fingerlings. Bakers are just too cheap.
No potato bug problems around here, I grow my own with no chemicals used. I read a while ago that even potato farmers grow their own patch because they refuse to eat field potatoes with all the chemicals added...
I grew them for many years and had some good harvests. Suddenly I got infested with potato bugs and I found the only way to stay ahead of them was to pick the hard shelled breeder bugs off a couple times a day. Miss a day or two and then you are infested. Wasn't worth it and I never found anything that took care of them and was safe to use in the garden.
I planted 100 lbs 50lbs of Kenny back and 50 lbs of red Pontiac I’ve been eating taters for 2 months only real work is the hilling part I usually dig all them first of October and get 10 bushel way more than we can eat but plant the left overs next spring
Originally Posted by Sakoluvr
dug up about 30 pounds of Yukon Gold and Reds. I love growing them because I can put them in the ground early and enjoy watching all that biomass come up. Sure you can buy them, but I think mine taste better. I use raised beds. A 4x12 bed gave me 30 pounds, which is plenty for us. I really like digging them up. I don't use fertilizer in my beds, just home made compost and mulch. Most of it comes from my chicken coop. For me, it's not about saving money as much as growing and killing my own food.


Yukon Golds are THE schitt. I love those things. Both them and the various reds do well in AK. Well, not so much in the cold, rain-soaked, salt-infused ground out here in Aleutian Hell, but up in the interior where you actually have a summer with 21hrs of sunlight they take off like a shot once they pop up through the ground.
When I was in Palmer a couple of weeks ago you can watch the crops grow. Stayed there and came back a few days later. Crops were bigger. Enjoyed the visitor center too. Interesting history of the area. Had some Yukon gold hash browns from the garden this weekend. Damn good.
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I grew them for many years and had some good harvests. Suddenly I got infested with potato bugs and I found the only way to stay ahead of them was to pick the hard shelled breeder bugs off a couple times a day. Miss a day or two and then you are infested. Wasn't worth it and I never found anything that took care of them and was safe to use in the garden.
Obtain some "Colorado Potato Beetle Beater" from Bonine... I've been using it for years now.. Just 2-3 applications when beetles first appear and you'll be golden... 2 oz. mixed in a gallon of water and sprayed over the plants when you begin to see beetles.. Repeat about 8-12 days later, then maybe once more in a similar time frame.. The stuff works wonders..
The Colorado Potato Beatle is bad around here. I used to be able to zap them with some good chit, but you can't buy it anymore. The local Mennonites put me onto a product called Colorado Potato Beatle Beater. It's designed for organic growing, and works. I've also used a product called Captain Jack's, and it works pretty good.

One of my granddaughters likes to help me with the vegetables, and enters them in the local fair. She will pick out an odd one to grow each year, and this year it was blue potatoes. My red and white varieties didn't do much this year, but those blue ones did. We've eaten a few, and though they taste just fine, they have a look that just makes you not to want to eat them.
Originally Posted by JamesJr
The Colorado Potato Beatle is bad around here. I used to be able to zap them with some good chit, but you can't buy it anymore. The local Mennonites put me onto a product called Colorado Potato Beatle Beater. It's designed for organic growing, and works. I've also used a product called Captain Jack's, and it works pretty good.

Exactly the stuff I described above...
Mine are just getting going good. Short season here. Last real frost that burned plants was June 9, then on June 16 it was cold enough to have ice in the lawn hose. Didn't get these planted until after that, probably June 23. Pic was taken July 19. They've already gotten bigger and filled in more of the open space. Still have some relatively long days here.

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Thanks for the reminder, I now have to go out and pile more chicken litter compost around them.

Geno
They look nice. Hope they make for you.....
One of the best potato growing areas in Cali is just up the road an hour and a half.

Couple of the beds in the garden were there from the previous owners. I still get a volunteer from their plantings on occasion, we moved here fall of 2016. It's a good area, good volcanic soil (with too many rocks in most places), and lots of sun.

I have high hoped for them, as thinly sliced (almost tater chips) fried new taters are a favorite of mine.

Geno
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