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Posted By: gene270 saltless water softener - 10/16/19
can anybody comment on these units, I would love to replace my unit that uses salt
We have well water and two daughters that love to take showers so it seems we use a lot of salt, one question i will ask is how hard can the water be when using this type of softener f
I am going to make a call later but wanted real world experience if anybody has some...thanks
Posted By: KFWA Re: saltless water softener - 10/16/19
is this the kind that has coils that wraps around the pipe?
I bought one for $99 a couple years ago and, frankly, I don't know how well it works. We still get lime buildup on the shower doors, and some around the taps, but it cleans up easily enough.

I'm interested in others experience and what they're using as I'd definitely like to find one that works well as I refuse to put in a salt softener.

People go on about global warming yet are oblivious to the amount of salt that they're dumping into our drinking water systems and lakes. Fuggin' idiots.
My friend just uses potassium pellets instead of salt.
Posted By: RockyRaab Re: saltless water softener - 10/16/19
Where do you think salt comes from? Outer space?

Ours comes from evaporation plants around the Great Salt Lake, and when it gets flushed through our softener systems, it drains back to...Great Salt Lake.
Posted By: gene270 Re: saltless water softener - 10/16/19
apparently this set up neutralizes the hard deposits so they dont stick to the pipes and appliances
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Where do you think salt comes from? Outer space?

Ours comes from evaporation plants around the Great Salt Lake, and when it gets flushed through our softener systems, it drains back to...Great Salt Lake.


Well, ours doesn't. There are salt deposits in and around the Great Lakes where much of it is mined. But it's not in the water until we put it there.

We use a lot of road salt in the winter, too. My ex had high blood pressure and needed to reduce salt and I looked at ways to do that. Turns out our city drinking water, tested and deemed safe, is drawn from a large river and has 6 times the salt in it than well water. Then we're adding in water softener salt so that whoever takes water from downriver gets even higher concentrations.
Posted By: Hubert Re: saltless water softener - 10/16/19
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Where do you think salt comes from? Outer space?

Ours comes from evaporation plants around the Great Salt Lake, and when it gets flushed through our softener systems, it drains back to...Great Salt Lake.

haven't you been watching how the universe works?? they said that water came originally from outer space in salt crystals to fill the oceans...
Posted By: rem141r Re: saltless water softener - 10/16/19
Originally Posted by plainsman456
My friend just uses potassium pellets instead of salt.


i had one of those. pellets went from 5 bucks a bag to like 15 overnight. two bags a month adds up.
Posted By: nighthawk Re: saltless water softener - 10/16/19
One of the many uses of cow magnets.
Posted By: hanco Re: saltless water softener - 10/16/19
Mine uses salt, it works fine, doesn’t use much salt.
Posted By: ERK Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
I called one of those companies when I had my well dug 2 years ago. He was very honest and said that only one that uses salt will get rid of lime and some other minerals. The saltless would not. Ed k
Posted By: 12344mag Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Originally Posted by Wannabebwana
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Where do you think salt comes from? Outer space?

Ours comes from evaporation plants around the Great Salt Lake, and when it gets flushed through our softener systems, it drains back to...Great Salt Lake.


Well, ours doesn't. There are salt deposits in and around the Great Lakes where much of it is mined. But it's not in the water until we put it there.

We use a lot of road salt in the winter, too. My ex had high blood pressure and needed to reduce salt and I looked at ways to do that. Turns out our city drinking water, tested and deemed safe, is drawn from a large river and has 6 times the salt in it than well water. Then we're adding in water softener salt so that whoever takes water from downriver gets even higher concentrations.


Looking back on it you should have just turned the water softener up..............probably would have been cheaper. wink
Second one was far more expensive, like 10X. But I learned the price of my sanity and it was worth every penny!
Posted By: Kenneth Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Originally Posted by gene270
can anybody comment on these units, I would love to replace my unit that uses salt
We have well water and two daughters that love to take showers so it seems we use a lot of salt, one question i will ask is how hard can the water be when using this type of softener f
I am going to make a call later but wanted real world experience if anybody has some...thanks

Gimmicks,
If they actually worked, don't you think they would be more popular?
Regarding Ion exchange with out an actual exchange, when did the laws of physics change?
Posted By: stevelyn Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Originally Posted by hanco
Mine uses salt, it works fine, doesn’t use much salt.


Effective softeners use an ion exchange system trading a sodium or potassium ion for the ion of the dissolved mineral you are trying to get out of the water. Anyone trying to make claims on any other method is trying to sell you junk.

It really depends on how bad your water is and how often your system has to regenerate.

There's places around Fairbanks that have craploads of iron in the water and softening systems have to be regenerated every few days. I lived in an area with high calcium and my Culligan system only had to regenerated about every 10 days to 2 weeks. I may have went through a bag and a half per month.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Originally Posted by stevelyn

There's places around Fairbanks that have craploads of iron in the water and softening systems have to be regenerated every few days.


Why are you asking a Softener to do a filters job?

Misapplication.
Posted By: stevelyn Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by stevelyn

There's places around Fairbanks that have craploads of iron in the water and softening systems have to be regenerated every few days.


Why are you asking a Softener to do a filters job?

Misapplication.



The iron is dissolved. A filter won't do schitt.
Posted By: 673 Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Where do you think salt comes from? Outer space?

Ours comes from evaporation plants around the Great Salt Lake, and when it gets flushed through our softener systems, it drains back to...Great Salt Lake.

Yes but first, it go's through your septic system if you have one, and it screws up your concrete septic tank and concrete distribution box. So if one must use salt it is best to have poly tank and box, otherwise expect to replace both tank and box as the salt destroys them pretty quick.
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
My new home has iron bacteria in the well. Anybody know a way to deal with that? I've nuked the whole system about every 3 months with a bunch of bleach but it always comes back.

Bb
Posted By: kingston Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
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Posted By: NVhntr Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
I've had a few of the smaller console Water Boss units in a couple of homes. They do a good job and use very little salt. Maybe a bag every two months for a household with four people.
They're pretty easy to install yourself if you're at all handy.

Water Boss softener
Posted By: kk alaska Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Good link for iron removal lots of snake oil sales in home water treatment, so be wary.

Usually area-specific iron problems, your local water treatment operators at your local city's are a good resource for information, and know which treatment system works. A good lab can test your water and from that, you can decide what system works best by test results. I would use an independent lab, not one that is trying to sell you a water treatment system.

http://wellwaterguide.net/iron-well-water.aspx
Posted By: nighthawk Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Instead of making people like this Master Magnetics rich bop down to your local farm store and pick up a pair of aforementioned cow magnets. Get another pair for your vehicle. Guaranteed to raise your mileage at least 50%. But be careful, I combined this with other milage improving technologies such as water injection and added up to over 100% improvement. Got in trouble for gasoline running out the tank and polluting as I drove.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by stevelyn

There's places around Fairbanks that have craploads of iron in the water and softening systems have to be regenerated every few days.


Why are you asking a Softener to do a filters job?

Misapplication.



The iron is dissolved. A filter won't do schitt.


You couldn't be more wrong........
Posted By: Kenneth Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Originally Posted by 673
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Where do you think salt comes from? Outer space?

Ours comes from evaporation plants around the Great Salt Lake, and when it gets flushed through our softener systems, it drains back to...Great Salt Lake.

Yes but first, it go's through your septic system if you have one, and it screws up your concrete septic tank and concrete distribution box. So if one must use salt it is best to have poly tank and box, otherwise expect to replace both tank and box as the salt destroys them pretty quick.


Where in the hell do you people come up with this mis-information?
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Instead of making people like this Master Magnetics rich bop down to your local farm store and pick up a pair of aforementioned cow magnets. Get another pair for your vehicle. Guaranteed to raise your mileage at least 50%. But be careful, I combined this with other milage improving technologies such as water injection and added up to over 100% improvement. Got in trouble for gasoline running out the tank and polluting as I drove.


My grandpa put cow magnets on his Cadillac during the seventies. He drive around telling people how much better his mileage was with the magnets on his gas lines. One day he took it in for a service and afterwards the mechanic said everything checked out except for the cow magnets he found strapped to the brake lines.

Bb
Posted By: nighthawk Re: saltless water softener - 10/17/19
Now that is funny! Was quite the fad in the day and there were true believers.
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