It's always fun to be an armchair quarterback....and last night was no exception. I'm a big Packers fan and just loved the way Professor Rodgers handled the ball.....but is he the best?

Here's my question to all of you.....If Aaron Rodgers had happened to play for the N E Patriots instead of the Packers, would the Patriots have a better record now than with Tom Brady.....what say you?

No

That's like picking Manny Pacquiao over Floyd Mayweather.

I take it The packers won?

Huh?? You do know the Patriots are undefeated so far.. so how can they have a better record if Rodgers was a patriot

Brady isn't a pimple on Rodger's axx.How many Super Bowl's did they win on last second Vinitieri field goal's or a fluke interception against Seahawk's?

They would be more undefeated.

And they wouldn’t have that smiling ass from Michigan at quarterback!!!!

He'd still be a leftard liberal, so no, I'll stick with Brady.

Rodgers has not had the supporting cast Brady has. But Rodgers has certainly been excellent in his own right.
Hasbeen

It takes some doing to beat a Rogers led team.

I'm a fan of Rodgers, he has a knack for big plays.

But he's no surgical Brady.

This pass is insane.

Drew in Nawlins is no slouch. (Nawlins is how we pronounce New Orleans)

In many seasons Rodgers also hasn't had the offensive line that Brady has enjoyed. He's been sacked around 2.5 times a game, rather than around 1.75 for Brady. It's a lot easier to be "surgical" when somebody isn't knocking you down.

Rodgers, Brady, Brees will all be in the HOF as soon as they are eligible.

I'd take Brady.

Brady has taken pay cuts to keep good quality players around him. I'll give you a hint how many pay cuts R0dgers has taken over the years.

brady plays in the weakest division in football. Aaron rodgers is WAY more talented than Brady. Brady has said "if Aaron rodgers was in this system he would throw for 7,000 yards a year)

John! You do realize this is the Hunter's Campfire forum, right?

Bill's coaching swings it.

Even you would smile if you were waking up to Gisele ...

I find the 3 mentioned as well as a few others very entertaining to watch all in their own style. I'm continually amazed at how with 22 behemoths on a 100x53.5yd field the games can come down to mere inches made and lost.

Way, way more.



Hilarious.

We aint supposed to watch the NFL.
It is on the 24hr boycott list along with 10 thousand other things.
You are all bad 24hr members.
Unpatriotic and Unamerican.
Watching the NFL is akin to being a Liberal Socialist Democrat or Communist per some of the cool kids on here.

^^^^^^^^^



Lmfao!!!!







GO PATRIOTS!!!!!

Three.

Which, even if you didn’t count them, would STILL leave Brady with ... three times more rings.

Hit the nail on the head.Jet's,Dolphin's, Bill's,twice each,then throw in a couple of more dead dog team's.And there's your Patriot's record year after year.Take away little schit Edelmann with his 10yd Brady bomb's and see what happen's.Rodger's beat them in G.B. a few year's ago.

Rodgers is banging Danika Patrick, Brady is banging Gisele Bundchin. Take your pick.

But Brady is the GOAT.

Spitting mad.

By far, the most talented arm/brain QB the last 10 yr span.

As a Vikings fan, I hate the Packers...

The Patriots have had great coaching, and great teams, albeit in a soft conference.

But I don't think there was ever a time in Brady's career when he could make the pass in that video.

Maybe dumbass Pete shoulda let "The Beast" run the ball.
Its why Lynch left the Seahawks ......
Laffin!!!!!

Oh, and of course no other team has ever won a super bowl by a feild goal like the Patriots have.
Laffin!!!

I got lost on YouTube there for a minute.

Not for nothing, but Danica Patrick might be more handsome than TB12.

They've lost more super bowls than Rodgers has been in.

Yep. Good team Decent QB.

This is about QBs, not teams....

Try to keep up puddin' head.

Affirmative.

They should compare SB rings.

Brady has lost three times more Super Bowls than Rodgers has been in.

Brady has been in more Super Bowls than Rodgers has been in post seasons.

This thread is about QB talent, not organizational excellence...

Good luck!

How many mvp award Tom Brady have? How many does Aaron Rodgers have?

Somebody should put together a spreadsheet.

Brady has more regular season wins than Rogers has starts.

No talent; just a complete fluke and product of organizational excellence?

According to the packer fans yes..

According to Brady, Yes. I remember hearing an interview with Brady where he said if Rodgers was in the system that he is in that he would be unstopable.

Rodgers just may be the best QB ever. Bur he can't win games on his own. When the Packers lose, it isn't Rodgers' fault, period.

It's really hard to say how many quarterbacks could have been great if they had just been fortunate enough to have been on the right team at the right time.
And this fact isn't restricted to quarterbacks either.

Tough question no easy answer

Imo

Rodgers has the greater physical gifts without a doubt.

But competitive fire, I’d have to give the edge to Brady


Gm and coaching are very important in the whole scheme as well, that’s an advantage for Brady not of his own doing


Taking less on what you could get to make your team better ? That’s part of that competitive fire mentioned.

Other than Randy Moss or Gronk, Brady has played w few receivers that I think would be considered HOF candidates

Also no way of knowing if after winning 3 or 4 SB’s Rodgers would have the hunger to win more. Desire yes, hunger ? Brady has.

Hard to pass on generational talent like Rodgers has. But the only thing that would give you pause in doing so, is if you could look in the soul of a guy and see that ever gnawing hunger to get better and do anything to win

Exactly

Right. Just ask him. LMAO

Supporting cast, you have obviously not watch the Pats over the years, the only players that would be considered big time players are Moss and Gronk
Not exactly true, it varies from year to year, the difference between Brady and Rodgers is how fast Brady gets rid of the ball. I don't know how many times i've seen Rodgers hold onto the ball to try and make a play while Brady gives his guys 2-3 seconds to get open and he'll dump the ball if they can't find an opening. Their o-line this year is horrid and it was bad a few years back when Scarnechia retired, Belichick asked him to come back, which he did and fixed the o-line but they've been hit by the injury bug this year. That said, I'd take Aaron Rodgers over Brady when it comes to play making, when it comes down to surgically slicing up your opponent, i'd take Brady all day long.

This is to my point.....and that is would the entire record of the last ten years of the Patriots be better if by chance Rodgers had been the quarterback of the Patriots and Ton Brady played for the Packers......IMO definitely....while Brady brings a lot to the table, Rodgers brings a lot more.

TFF

Brady has been excellent for almost two decades. His resume can't be touched.

When Rodgers gets hot, it's almost unfair he's so good.

I enjoy watching both of them play. Both terrific players with completely different styles.

And one is a whiny little bitch and one isn't.

Haters will always be jealous of Brady...

Tom, Tom, Tom, I think that Brady has a better offensive line than we do, but you give either one of them time to throw the ball and they will pick you apart. Contrast last weeks game against Oakland when Rodgers didn't get pressured much to Sunday's game against Kansas City where they rushed Rodgers real hard and we were lucky to have pulled that one out. Brady is more durable I think, but Rodgers is a real student of the game and reads the defenses better.

I recently read a stat that Rodgers is 0-37 against winning teams when behind going into the 4th quarter. A quarterback should be judged on one thing - winning. That's a fact a Packer fan will trot out in EVERY circumstance other than Rodgers. Maintaining a Rodgers Mystique gives Packer fans something to cling to at night.

All of these Minnesotans commenting is F**king hilarious!

Why would anyone compare quarterbacks to Tom Brady? What statistics are you going to use to show others are better?

I don’t think 🤔 Rodgers ever deflated and balls either. If you can’t win, cheat, that’s Tom Brady’s motto!

In all honesty, they're both pretty damned good QB's and I'd want either of them as my teams point guard!

On the contrary, Packer fans have taught us that the only thing that matters is winning Super Bowls. Yep, Aaron Rodgers won the one he was in - so did Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon. Tom Brady has been in NINE. Tom Brady has won SIX, including thee of the last five.

Oh wait, Rodgers would have won more if he played for a better team? Me too.

With the Vikings?

Surprised it took you so long.

Recall the Colt’s player who stated that Brady could have been throwing bricks and he would have beaten them in that game?

Part of the problem with Rodgers is that he does not have an attitude that brings out the best in the other players around him at times. He has all the skill in the world, but will readily blackball his own teammates if he doesn't like something about them.

Brady will try to help anyone become a better player. That is the difference between the "supporting cast" of both. Brady can make a cast out of castoffs, while Rodgers can put his best athletes out of the game plan altogether. He is about as passive-aggressive as it gets, including with his own family and with all of his coaches over the years.

One player knows what it takes to win; the other wants to do all the winning himself. Because of that, Rodgers will never reach the heights that he could have and won't in the future either.

NFL-level football is not about athleticism, as every player has that (for the most part). It is about teamwork, doing one's job every play, and building a group of men willing to work together.

That wasn't who I was talking about BTW...

You mean both of them?

Yup!!!

Brady is a fraction quicker at reading defenses than rodgers, he gets caught occasionally staring down his primary reciever giving cornerbacks a clue...

Which part of "all" are you struggling with? Maybe I can help.

For Pete sake will somebody say "BOOK IT!" already.

DYNASTY BABY!

OK....I give up....maybe this wasn't worth eight pages.....maybe it'll be settled in February?????!!!!!

I am a Packers fan. And a Rogers fan. My second favorite team, and QB, in the NFL.
But; I think there has never been a quarterback/coach synergy quite like Brady/Bellichick in the history of the league. Change either, and the synergy is gone.
Is Rogers a first ballot hall of famer? Absolutely.
Would Rogers have won more games than Brady in your hypothetical situation? I truly don’t believe so.

Both are no doubter 1st ballots.

yup

This!!! Brady all day unless we're just having a skills competition. Rodgers throwing the ball is a beautiful thing. But he's not a leader and a winner like Brady.

"This!!! Brady all day unless we're just having a skills competition. Rodgers throwing the ball is a beautiful thing. But he's not a leader and a winner like Brady."

Rodgers seems to be more of a whiner....

Well kind of...........he took the big payday and when that happens there is less money for quality players around him. This kind of salary cap management is also something that the Pats are very good at.

And in a skills competition, I’d take Mahomes over either.

So many factors go into being a “ winning “ QB, and DakotaDeer nicely articulates another facet of Brady’s superiority in that department.

Rodgers should spent less time doing commercials and more time learning to be a leader on and off the field.

Put Rodgers on the Pats and vice versa and get back to me . No one drives a team to win and game plans better then Belichick. He is easily the most talented HC of all time, there is no one even close to him. Hell he could have JeffO as his QB and still win SB's. . Brady has always been surrounded by a superior team , not always physically but mentally no one even close.

BTW Brady and Rodgers are both big whiners. Rodgers playing under Belichick would be unbelievable. .

Terry Bradshaw


Now there was a quarterback

Pretty easy to win SB's when you are surrounded by one of the best OL's of all time and having Franco Harris as a RB and Lynn Swann to throw to. On the other side of the field one of the Best DL's ,LB and secondaries to every have played. CHuck Knoll was a great coach as well.

Ed Zachary

Uhh, well, that is a bridge just too far!!!

Aaron Rodgers is a pimple on Joe Montana's ass.

Ok , maybe that was a reach with Jeffo

Hysterical, he was coached by an offensive Genius and was the ultimate system QB. Like Bradshaw surrounded by a fantastic team.

Your graphic is laughable. Passing yards only is not a measure of a winning quarterback.

By the way - when Brady won his first Super Bowl - he was a friggin’ ROOKIE! How’s those apples?

WGAF? A year ago all you guys were crowing that the NFL was dead to you after the surrender to the Kaepernick kook and Black Lives Matter. Nice to see how long your principles have lasted.

I'm cured of my addiction. I don't have to lay on the sofa guzzling potato chips and beer on Sunday afternoons any more.

Frnkly, I never even heard of Aaron Rodgers. Want to keep it that way.

LMAO

Pears sent

Rodgers has the third slowest release time in the NFL, while Brady has one of the fastest. A half second holding the ball longer will get you sacked a lot more in the NFL. Those big defensive lineman can cover a lot of ground in a half second believe it or not.

Probably the biggest difference between the Pats and everyone else. Almost like having an extra man on the field.

Ya! Fricking smiling ass from meeeeeeecigan.

Tom Brady has had Randy Moss and Rob Gronkowski, what other well known receivers has he had to throw too that would be a star on another team? Nobody can match Brady when it comes to doing more with less.

What was the score in the 1st half of that game with deflated balls
17-7

And what was the final score at the end of the second half with properly inflated balls.
45-7


Laffin.

Colts shoulda kept their pieholes shut.
They mighta had a chance .
All they did was piss the GOAT off.
2nd half scoring by the Patriots proves that.



LMFAO!!!!

GO PATRIOTS!!!!!

Brady has had a chip on his shoulder since being picked 199th in the 6th round.
Been loyal to the team that picked him and taking it out on all the other teams since.


If anyone thinks that aint part of what drives Brady.
Then your smoking crack cocaine.

LOL!!!



GO PATRIOTS!!!

Surprised there are so many PATRIOT haters here. Definitely unusual for the Hunter’s Campfire. Probably see more support for them if we put this under the “Q” thread ...

Brady also got injured the 1st game of the 08 season.
Sat out that entire year
Patriots go 11- 5 under Kassel and dont make the playoffs.

So if we are playing speculation games
Add 3600 to 4000 yards to his total.


Laffin!!!!




GO PATRIOTS!!!!

Buncha inbred members here glorifying those boycotted, inbred felons who kneel during the Anthem,

With total disgust, this will be my last post here ever..............

Good thing about this thread is we are all talking schitt about football.
And aint getting hit with the Unamerican and Unpatriotic bullschitt opinon comments.


LOL!!!

Brady is a Trump supporter - besides being the GOAT, that’s why a lot of people like him.

Rodgers was born in Kalifornia, went to school in Kalifornia, and played football at the University of Kalifornia. If he got off his ass to go vote, do you think he pulled the lever for Trump or Hilderbeast?

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Just found this:

If Rodgers is vague about his stance on social issues, he’s made his stance on fiscal issues very clear. First, he’s the union rep for the Green Bay Packer’s Player’s Union.5 Beyond that, Rodgers signed a petition to recall Wisconsin Republican governor Scott Walker,6 putting him squarely in the Democrat corner and possibly the fiscally liberal camp–though we won’t go so far as to make that assumption.

https://hollowverse.com/aaron-rodgers/


Fuque Rodgers.

I'm in this camp.

that was my last post forever...............

Unbelievable.

This.

LOL!!!!

Brady is the best ever so far. How many rings does Rodgers have again? How many trips to the SB in his career? We just set a 19 year mark in NE for seasons in a row over .500. We've made the playoffs how many times in that span of years? How many SB championships in how many games played again?

Go Pats.

So is your comment. Montana was a system QB with a noodle arm, Bill Walsh was the real genius. DIdn't hurt that he threw to one of the best WR's to ever play the game.

Football is a team sport, put him on the Cleveland browns.

They can't win every year, they have a high probability of winning because Belichick is the best coach in football, watch NE when he goes away.

Tarkenton probably has 47,000 scramble yards to go with 47,000 passing yards.....

Easily , he must have run 10 yards sideways every time he threw the ball

I live in the now.
And relate in the past.
Who knows what fate the future holds ...
It aint pretty.

Always been the way i think.
Cant help it.

I’m not a fan of either team but Brady wins hands down.
He’s the best Qb

He is going to win another Super Bowl this year unless the 49'ers trip them up. Belichick is already saying he will coach into his 70's and he quite frankly is way underpaid.

Many fail to remember Belichick had a losing record as a head coach prior to Brady as QB.

There is one immeasurable skill that Brady has that sets him apart. He is clutch. King clutch. There is nobody in professional football or arguably all of pro sports, that is as clutch as him. He always delivers in the most crutial moments on the biggest of stages. That is something that can't be coached. Throwing to Gronk in triple coverage in the 4th quarter with SB53 on the line? Forget about it. Coming back from 28-3? Hanging 28 points on the Legion of Boom? 6 Super Bowls, 6 game winning drives. Belichick can get the team prepped to go, but the man behind center has to put it together and make it happen when everything is on the line.

One does not guzzle potato chips.

One wolfs down potato chips

I like potato chips.
Classic Lays actually.
Dont like ripple or ridged chips.
Dont drink.
Sit in a salvation army lazy boy I got for 11 bucks.
My 3 dogs lay on the salvation army 9 dollar couch.

Didnt "crow" about the NFL being dead to me either.
Didnt give one squirt of piss about crapperdick or the blm sideshow.
Or what the ignorant on here have or had ta say about people who like to watch football.
I paid my dues for this country.
IDGAF what others have to say about people watching football.
LMFAO!!!!


In case anyone hasnt noticed kapernick and the black lives matter schit have withered on the vine....



GO PATRIOTS!!!!!

Don't hold back!! Tell us how you really feel!!!

Back on topic...I am a Packers fan. Born and raised in Wis. Love having Aaron Rodgers as QB.

I don't hate the Pats, nor do I like them, indifferent I guess. But I am sick of seeing them in the Super Bowl so often.

Winning is everything. Brady gets my vote.

They would be more or less the same.

Rogers would likely have performed very similarly to what Brady has done, give the same coaching, offensive plans & philosophy & the same player personnel.

Both are great QB's; so also would have several other great QB's have performed, even going as far back as Johnny U.

MM

Probably. I take nothing away from Tom Brady's hard work. However, had Brady Quinn or Tim Couch (insert any QB here) gone to the Patriots instead of the Browns, I'm confident the Patriots would have won just as many Super Bowls as they have with Tom Brady. I hate the Patriots; but, Belichick is a genius.

Ponder this. Because of their respective running styles, had Emmet Smith played for the Lions and Barry Sanders played for the Cowboys, they may both have just had five year careers as better than average running backs.

No doubt Belichick is a great coach, but giving him the credit for the Super Bowls the players win is too much - like giving Eisenhower credit for busting through the hedgerows.

Yup.....but the media no longer televises the playing of the national anthem either.

The kneelers getting no press seems to be the answer to stupidity......remember when we had "streakers"?????.....well they quit giving press to that too and walla…..it went away.....is there a lesson here?

Back to the subject at hand.....will we see the Packers play the Patriots in February?

They are both great QB's talent wise but I have to disagree. Rogers is WAY too self centered to lead cast off and no name players like Brady has. He pouts when he doesn't get his way and throws his team mates under the bus when they lose. He's a prima donna dick head that former players admit they can't stand. I highly doubt you'll hear a former Patriot player say anything but good things about Brady.

Wasn't going to comment on this, because it's all pure speculation. Brady has been the beneficiary of playing on best team money can buy, and getting a lot of publicity doing so. However, he will, without a doubt, go down as one of the best players ever in the NFL, simply because he is.

Rodgers on the other hand, has had the bad luck to play in a small market with a limited checkbook, and some poor coaching. Yet, his ability cannot be questioned, as he most certainly may be the best QB in the game today. Some of his throws are absolutely amazing, and a lot of passes have been to less than stellar receivers, while Brady has usually had a better receiving corps.

If Rodgers played for the Pats, they would be every bit as good as they are now, and have been.

He'll be the first one to tell you about it too. That guy needs to go away.

Sorry BigSky but I call dumb on that post. BB is not out there on the field. TB12 is. The system is only as good in its application as the players executing it are at working together. TB is a generational player for a variety of reason. Sticking any garden variety QB in the same place under the same system is no guarantee of the same result. Why can't you people just enjoy watching greatness in front of you? I have had it for near on 20 years and I fully understand after the BB/TB era is over it's likely back to the cellar for us here in NE for maybe ever. Nobody likes to watch something great I guess unless it's their team.

Ummm. No.

Conjecture is what one does when reason has left the argument.

I, respectfully, disagree. I never said Belichick threw the ball or blocked. That would be like giving Eisenhower credit for busting through the hedgerows or climbing the cliffs. He is somewhat of a tactical savant and convinces players to buy in to his system or they're gone. They buy in and it works. Reverse what I said earlier about quarterbacks. I don't think you could have given many other coaches and their staffs the players Belichick had for all of his Super Bowl wins and seen the same results. I'm a New England hater; but, I have an appreciation of what he and that organiziation have done in the past decade plus. This is just my opinion as their is no way to know if George Brett or Wade Boggs could have hit off of Sandy Koufax or whether Ted Williams could have hit for 406 in one year or had a 344 career average in "the modern era". It's fun to debate; but, we'll never know.

Spot on, especially the part about the differences in market size, payroll, and coaching.

Well, I've been called dumb by much better men than you; so, no problem. The fact is, at the time he went to the Patriots, Brady was a "garden variety QB", to use your terminology, at that time. He did indeed blossom. He did so through his hard work and the system in which he found himself. Somewhere in your reading my post you assumed my supposed lack of appreciation for what New England has done, my lack of recognition of the "greatness in front of [you] me and my lack of enjoyment of having been able to witness it. Nothing could be further from the truth. At the end of the day, when looking at all of the stats, we will be able to honestly debate who is the greatest QB of all time. Brady will always be in that discussion.

I will ad a couple of other points. Brady has had a few super stars in his supporting cast over the years; but, not many. In essence, he (and Belichick) have done more, with less, in my opinion.

No, he's completely wrong about market size and payroll.

The NFL has revenue sharing and a salary cap.

Exactly. And the opposite for the receivers. QB has has top notch receivers for a very long time. The Pats will pick them up from the recycle bin at Costco and get 3 more years and 2 SB rings from them most of the time.

Bottom Line...

I think both teams have been well run for 20 years. Both have HOF QB's running the team for nearly 20 years, GB probably even longer. But, if you compare apples to apples which is SB wins, Brady is the better QB by 5.

Cleveland fired Belichick . Let that sink in

Their schedule is a joke year after year after year.Brady would have never survived the NFC North.

Jeezus buddy get a grip. I didn't call you dumb but your post. Thin skin abounds. What's to hate about NE? You are watching the best. Period. Enjoy for what it is rather than who it is. I'm a NE sports team fan through and through but I loved watching Jordan and company take over after the Celts run in the 80s. I knew Jordan was the best ever. Jobe and Lebron are up there but Jordan was the best period. Not my team but I knew what I was watching. How can someone not cheer that?

While there is no doubt that Green Bay is a very well run franchise, and in my opinion, the most iconic NFL team, they are still in a small market when compared to the Pats, and NY teams, California, Texas, and probably a few more places. In other words, a player looking for exposure is probably going to look elsewhere. Also, they haven't had a decent coach since Holmgren, and unlike teams like NE that have been able to keep the ball rolling and are a threat year in and year out to win a Super Bowl, the Packers have not been.

Look at the Favre years......he was probably the best QB of his era, but GB simply couldn't field great teams year in and year out, like NE has been able to do. Salary caps and revenue sharing don't mean a level playing field. Publicity and exposure are what a majority of the good players are after, and that's where they're going to want to play. There are exceptions, and the superstars, like Rodgers, are going to get that wherever they play, but the ones that are a notch or so below, want to go to where they're going to be on the front page.

New England is the NY Yankees of the NFL right now, the team that everyone else wants to beat, because they are the best in the business. They aren't the best in the business because the playing field is level, and they just happen to be lucky. They are the best because of money, and how much they have and how they've spent it. It's that simple.

Holy cow. You have to be the most obtuse poster on this forum. I can't believe how butt-hurt you are over a discussion in which, it is very clear, I agree with you about 99% of the way. Loosen the bone Wilma. As to "what's to hate about New England", you must be new to sports. Read my posts again. Nobody has a greater appreciation of what they have done than me. That's why it easy to "hate" them. The term hate, in the sports context is usually used to describe and directed at the team you wish to lose because they win to the exclusion of all others. It's, therefore, easy to both appreciate their greatness and hate them as the opposition. My son and I talk football a lot. We always come to the conclusion that we root against the Patriots and consider ourselves lucky to have witnessed their dynasty in our lifetimes. You need to learn and accept the fact that people are going to root against (hate?) perennial winners and still be able to appreciate the greatness of the perennial winners. It happens in every sport. Consider yourself lucky for having "your chosen team" be "that team".

Well thanks for all that. Wow. As I type the sun has just broken through the clouds, too.

Go Pats.

This.

If Aaron Rodgers goes undefeated for the next four years including playoffs and Super Bowls he'll come close to the win total of that famous Viking QB - Brett Favre.

damn how I wish he'd won a SB there!

Me too, unfortunately he threw the worst interception of all time against the Saints in the NFC championship game. The Vikings had the best team that year.

And Belichick’s career took off when NE drafted Brady.

How about letting that sink in !

The interception resulted in the game ending in a tie. The OT loss was due to the phantom interference penalty on Ben Lieber. Besides, the worst interception of all time, bar none, was the Seahawk's Russell Wilson against the Patriots in SB XLIX.

Russel Wilson's...yeah that was pretty hilarious.

I was referring to the Cleveland Browns and why they will probably never return to contention. We will find out what Belichick can and cannot do when Miss Brady retires this year or next. I am betting on Belichick. HC has input on who was drafted correct?

Ha! I won a pot of money because of that play.

I still can't believe they called that play on the goal line. Especially with Marshawn Lynch at running back.

I'm generally in the camp of most SB's - then I'm reminded that Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco, Brad Johnson, Jim McMahon and Jeff Hostetler have rings – and Dan Marino does not.

And BB took the Pats to a 11-5 record in 2008 with Matt Cassell at QB when Brady was injured in the first game of the season. BB is the GOAT.

You're not the only one!

You're not the only one!

James McMahon needs to be in several "rings of honnor."

How can you go wrong with Jimmy Mac!!?

Rogers is good, been good a long time

Wade Wilson has a ring also - he was Troy Aikman's backup in Dallas.

Does Matt Stafford have a ring, oh! That’s right the Lion haven’t been in a Super Bowl!!!😂

We ain’t planning on having one either . . .

I like Matt Stafford a lot and I like the Lions, but sometimes they seem intent on becoming Michigan's version of the Browns.

Love watching Aaron Rodgers play. Not much of a Packers fan.

Lions have wasted too many talented players over the years. Stafford is next. He's one good hit away from a career- ending injury.

Talk about a QB going season after season without adequate pass protection.

I've been a Stafford fan since he was drafted. He is one tough MoFo! When he snuck around the trainers with his arm dangling to go back in the game and complete the game winning TD pass that time made me admire the heck out of him.

With that said, most Lions fans are complete D-bags when they have one OUNCE of success.


So F'em!

fix'd it

Looks like a lot of 'fire members are still watching pro football.

Barry has enough Sense to pack it in before an injury! Could you imagine if Green Bay had drafted Barry in stead of drafting Mandrich. Favre and Sanders!!!

Only when I am completely bored out of my mind.

I would have to say no he is not the best. A pairing like Brady and Belichick come along once in a generation. Aaron Rodgers is probably one of the best quarterbacks at extending the play and having great success at it. He won't get another Super Bowl or play for 20 years though. Just my 2 cents.

Thought it appropriate to bump this to the top.

They did have a down day.

No one likes a hater.........

Whoa, 26 to 11! San Diego? That is NOT a good day. Oh well, next week, back to college football: Alabama vs LSU!
Now, that ought to be good.

Heaven forbid you are watching pro football...

Rodgers had no help from his teammates today. Lots of dropped balls by his receivers. He had to run in one of the TD’s his self. And Phillip Rivers had an exceptional day with some Cinderella throws and catches.

Can’t wait till the LSU vs Bama game next weekend!
My Aggies suck this year. So Roll Tide!!!

Brady's getting stomped tonight as well.

Rogers is a good ball player, he would have improved many teams. His best days may be behind him, I'm not sure of his age.

No schiit!


Was I hearing things? When they introduced the Raven's Defense where players name their college, one guy identified an Elementary School and another mumbled something about Taco Johns. WTF?

Yep. Be nice to see him get beat for a change.

The fat lady hasn't sung...

Not hating, well not really.

Pats about to get beat. Ravens got Brady rattled.

X10000

Aaron Rodgers?? A member of 24 Hourcampfire?? Someone mentioned it when the packers lose it’s never Rodgers fault it’s the teams fault, but when they win it’s all because of Aaron Rodgers.,..

Yeah, he said "body by Taco Bell."

Ought Oh ! Brady looks like he’s about to cry on the sidelines.

It's doesn't look like we're going to settle things tonight.


LOL

Nope. The look on Brady’s face..... Priceless!

Karma, that selfless bitch..

That's cold.

If anyone is interested, I have 4 tickets (all together) for this Sunday's game vs. Carolina (Nov 10).
And 4 tickets vs Redskins (Dec 8).

If you know it of not somebody’s got to loose. If it is a tie you both loose.