The US Constitution says in Article 3 section 3 Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
Well it's going to start soon so it seems. Use the link.
The communists have used vote fraud to get their people into the government in Virginia and they know the 2nd Amendment of out Constitution is the ONLY thing standing between their goals of international communism and the liberties listed in the entire Bill of Rights. So now the end game is out in the open.
Cops will always do as they are told and paid to do, and so will military men for the most part, but Virginia has many elected Sheriff's saying they will not obey the dictates of the communists. Therefore it's certain many cops will do as they are told by the sheriffs, not by the governor.
So this is very close to mass bloodshed now.
And there are many tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of patriots who are waiting for the fight to start so they can join in and absolutely crush this cancer. They are ready to come from as far away as Arizona, Idaho and everywhere else to be sure this doesn't end well for the Dem/Comms.
It's about 60 years overdue, but there's no time like the present.
No war in won on the defense. If the patriots get a clear direction for action they are going to "go hunting" leaving no safe place for the traitors to run to.
The communists will always start in either the west or east costs because the males in most of those areas have long ago surrendered the majorities of their freedoms and all their courage, but Virginia is the "south" and they are not always as easy to lie to and scare as the males in California Oregon Washing and the east coast from about Maryland and north to Massachusetts. The commies know that it's best to hit where your enemy is weak and afraid. Those areas on the east and west coasts have a huge majority of neutered spineless males who will sometimes run their mouths (if they can keep a low enough profile,) but they will NOT take any risks at all. Most by far are cowards to their cores.
But Virginia still has some men.
This is going to get interesting I think.
If I am wrong then the USA is doomed and will be remembered as the nation who was most blessed by God in the last 2000 years, who also told God His fundamentals were not worth their efforts.
The people who are pushing this agenda of disarming the population and government control need to realize that there’s a helluvalotta patriotic Americans who will consider them legitimate targets once they start the war they seem to want. And it’s not just in Virginia, it’s nation wide. Their gonna need their armed security. 7mm
It might indeed; what the Demons are trying to do there will leave little recourse..................they are planning (already introduced legislation to do so) ban & make it illegal to possess currently owned & previously legal AR's.
They bring it, they're gonna get it back in spades. These mountains have seen their share of bloodshed, so a little more won't make a damn bit of difference. Bring it Northam!
National Guard units are under the dual control of the state and the federal government.
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In 2006, Congress passed the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act, which gave the president the authority to mobilize National Guard units within the U.S. without the consent of state governors.
It would seem to me that President Trump ultimately controls Virginia's National Guard since it is under dual control of the state (Governor of Virginia in this case) and Federal government. Since we've been told since the Civil War that the Feds are supreme, All Trump has to do is tell them to stand down regardless of what the duly elected Communist Governor of Virginia orders them to do. Trump in Commander in Chief and literally Trump's the Communist state government. No National Guard for enforcement, no enforcement.
every time in the past when the National Guard was called out by the Governor, they did as told. It will be that way in Virginia too. The Guard will follow orders and kill you.
every time in the past when the National Guard was called out by the Governor, they did as told. It will be that way in Virginia too. The Guard will follow orders and kill you.
every time in the past when the National Guard was called out by the Governor, they did as told. It will be that way in Virginia too. The Guard will follow orders and kill you.
I sincerely hope you're wrong. I hope first, that Trump orders them to stand down if the Virginia Governor order them to do it.
Has anybody even thought about the fact that this pogue has not even taken office yet?
every time in the past when the National Guard was called out by the Governor, they did as told. It will be that way in Virginia too. The Guard will follow orders and kill you.
I sincerely hope you're wrong. I hope first, that Trump orders them to stand down if the Virginia Governor order them to do it.
Has anybody even thought about the fact that this pogue has not even taken office yet?
I hope I'm wrong too, but you know I am right. Every time, they do as told.
He's been our governor. The Dems just took majority of our legislature.
He's the one that wore blackface but got a free pass because he's liberal. This entire mess is funded by a New York billionaire. Bloomberg has his hand up Northam's ass like a puppeteer.
Maybe this is the part where we find out the answer to the often debated question , Will the military go against the citizens ?
Mike
If the military shows up with Bradley vehicles or other personnel carriers with .50 call guns on them, is there really anything armed citizens can do?
Ask the goatherds in Afghanistan, they are winning against similar equipment, and they don't have people who can hit a dinner plate at 800 yards, repeatedly.
If the military shows up with Bradley vehicles or other personnel carriers with .50 call guns on them, is there really anything armed citizens can do?
I still have a really tough time imagining American troops forcefully disarming American citizens. The cops have paychecks and pensions to think about, so they’ll try to enforce, at least until they realize that it’s too dangerous. A lot of Sheriffs officers and some state and city cops work for the people, but most put their career before all else. There may be some in the military that would try, but I think most officers and NCOs would know the difference between “following orders” and enforcing illegal laws. Our soldiers are a lot smarter then most people give them credit for. If they try, always remember that there are lots of worse things than meekly and cowardly accepting slavery. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. It would be well if Northam and his ilk would remember our history. This continent has seen two successful revolutions, and both were begun when an overreaching government attempted to forcibly disarm freedom loving civilians. I’m tired of all the goofing around. Bring it. 7mm
I know not one single serviceman/woman that would even consider it. Every one I know, either active or discharged, would fight like hell against it. 4,000 people in a county of 80,000 poured into a highschool gymnasium with plenty more stuck out on the highway in the traffic jam trying to get in. If I ever had a doubt about my neighbors determination and resolve, I don't now. That crowd was a powder keg and all it needs is a spark! Talk about energy....
I dont see President Trump allowing the commies in VA to mobilize the NG against citizens. As far as the poster who questioned the effectiveness of average armed citizens against military equipment, one must look no further then the 'Stan and the desert wars to answer that, and Vietnam before that. Citizens fighting on their home turf using guerrilla warfare tactics can be highly effective, especially against a force whos commitment to the battle would be questionable.
every time in the past when the National Guard was called out by the Governor, they did as told. It will be that way in Virginia too. The Guard will follow orders and kill you.
He's been our governor. The Dems just took majority of our legislature.
He's the one that wore blackface but got a free pass because he's liberal. This entire mess is funded by a New York billionaire. Bloomberg has his hand up Northam's ass like a puppeteer.
I honestly don't believe that Northam has a set. He is a puss. He will blink first.
If the military shows up with Bradley vehicles or other personnel carriers with .50 call guns on them, is there really anything armed citizens can do?
I still have a really tough time imagining American troops forcefully disarming American citizens. The cops have paychecks and pensions to think about, so they’ll try to enforce, at least until they realize that it’s too dangerous. A lot of Sheriffs officers and some state and city cops work for the people, but most put their career before all else. There may be some in the military that would try, but I think most officers and NCOs would know the difference between “following orders” and enforcing illegal laws. Our soldiers are a lot smarter then most people give them credit for. If they try, always remember that there are lots of worse things than meekly and cowardly accepting slavery. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. It would be well if Northam and his ilk would remember our history. This continent has seen two successful revolutions, and both were begun when an overreaching government attempted to forcibly disarm freedom loving civilians. I’m tired of all the goofing around. Bring it. 7mm
No skin off my nose if these left handed phagoats want a fist fight. I wasn't really doing anything important lately anyhow.
The Natl. Guard disarmed people in Nawlins, during Katrina, and not ONE shot was fired.
What makes you think people in Virginia will find the backbone to fire that ONE / FIRST shot?
What makes you think people will drive to Virginia, from all across the country, when they didn’t drive to Nawlins when they were disarmed?
New Orleans was a MUCH different scenario. The area was in the midst of a catastrophic natural disaster and much of the area was under water. Also the news of the firearms thefts by .gov came out pretty much after the fact as survivors began to tell their stories. Much different then some commie state governor threatening to use the NG to enforce an unconstitutional gun law!
The Natl. Guard disarmed people in Nawlins, during Katrina, and not ONE shot was fired.
What makes you think people in Virginia will find the backbone to fire that ONE / FIRST shot?
What makes you think people will drive to Virginia, from all across the country, when they didn’t drive to Nawlins when they were disarmed?
This ^^^. Anyone have an answer? The American public is simply too used to bending over and taking it in the a s s.
Times have changed. The spring got wound up tight since Katrina. But it ain't gonna come to nothin because Northam is not a brave man. Neither are the queers and dindus that just got hold of the legislature. Yellow cowards every last one of them.
Who the [bleep] knew anything about the confiscations in New Orleans in real time? I didn't hear anything about it til weeks afterwards.....plus it was a bunch of poor blacks and whether you like it or not, the ugly reality is, that makes a difference. Totally different situation and set of circumstances. This time people are having the time to comprehend the ramifications. Time to organize. Time to get pissed off. If you'd been at the meetings you'd understand the political climate here. People are ready to fight. This is an uprising and if they push we're gonna shove back hard. There will be no registration and there sure as hell won't be any confiscation.
I know not one single serviceman/woman that would even consider it. Every one I know, either active or discharged, would fight like hell against it. 4,000 people in a county of 80,000 poured into a highschool gymnasium with plenty more stuck out on the highway in the traffic jam trying to get in. If I ever had a doubt about my neighbors determination and resolve, I don't now. That crowd was a powder keg and all it needs is a spark! Talk about energy....
My kin are buried all over the Old Dominion going back to 1642. Including my dad at Arlington. Sic Semper Tyrannis Deep in the bone marrow.
The Natl. Guard disarmed people in Nawlins, during Katrina, and not ONE shot was fired.
What makes you think people in Virginia will find the backbone to fire that ONE / FIRST shot?
What makes you think people will drive to Virginia, from all across the country, when they didn’t drive to Nawlins when they were disarmed?
This ^^^. Anyone have an answer? The American public is simply too used to bending over and taking it in the a s s.
I'm glad you live in N.C. and even more glad I know where you stand on the subject. You can bend over and take it up the ass as hard as you like down there. Up here on the blue ridge were gonna fight these socialists [bleep] back to Richmond and on to Virginia Beach and drive them in to the Atlantic.
If the military shows up with Bradley vehicles or other personnel carriers with .50 call guns on them, is there really anything armed citizens can do?
I still have a really tough time imagining American troops forcefully disarming American citizens. The cops have paychecks and pensions to think about, so they’ll try to enforce, at least until they realize that it’s too dangerous. A lot of Sheriffs officers and some state and city cops work for the people, but most put their career before all else. There may be some in the military that would try, but I think most officers and NCOs would know the difference between “following orders” and enforcing illegal laws. Our soldiers are a lot smarter then most people give them credit for. If they try, always remember that there are lots of worse things than meekly and cowardly accepting slavery. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. It would be well if Northam and his ilk would remember our history. This continent has seen two successful revolutions, and both were begun when an overreaching government attempted to forcibly disarm freedom loving civilians. I’m tired of all the goofing around. Bring it. 7mm
No skin off my nose if these left handed phagoats want a fist fight. I wasn't really doing anything important lately anyhow.
Mr. White, I'd be proud to fight next to you! Sic Semper Tyrannis!
The Natl. Guard disarmed people in Nawlins, during Katrina, and not ONE shot was fired.
What makes you think people in Virginia will find the backbone to fire that ONE / FIRST shot?
What makes you think people will drive to Virginia, from all across the country, when they didn’t drive to Nawlins when they were disarmed?
This ^^^. Anyone have an answer? The American public is simply too used to bending over and taking it in the a s s.
I'm glad you live in N.C. and even more glad I know where you stand on the subject. You can bend over and take it up the ass as hard as you like down there. Up here on the blue ridge were gonna fight these socialists [bleep] back to Richmond and on to Virginia Beach and drive them in to the Atlantic.
Whoa, whoa, dude! I'm on your side, so get off my ass right now. I'm an NRA member, an instructor, and a service rifle competitor. I will fight to the death for my MY freedom. I'm just talking about the general U.S. population. So back the phugk off my ass right now!
Stay the [bleep] in N.C., we'll clean up our own mess. With your defeatist attitude you might as well join the commie leftist [bleep] in NoVa and Richmond and the billionaire from NYC. As far as the NRA, I'm a lifetime member too, and I sure as hell haven't seen Wayne LaPierre anywhere on the west side of the Blue Ridge. Guess his Limo is broke down. I'll be giving all my hard earned $$ to the Virginia citizens defense league, Gun Owners of America and the 2nd Amendment foundation. 🖕 You Wayne.
Who the [bleep] knew anything about the confiscations in New Orleans in real time? I didn't hear anything about it til weeks afterwards.....plus it was a bunch of poor blacks and whether you like it or not, the ugly reality is, that makes a difference. Totally different situation and set of circumstances.
BLACK? REALLY?
The first 1:11 minutes of the video shows 4 white people.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
This time people are having the time to comprehend the ramifications. Time to organize. Time to get pissed off. If you'd been at the meetings you'd understand the political climate here. People are ready to fight. This is an uprising and if they push we're gonna shove back hard. There will be no registration and there sure as hell won't be any confiscation.
"This time" is different huh?
You'll show them by passing something with 2A in the title, and we'll show them...
3 - If you have to have time to get pissed off...you've lost
4 - Unless and until the tyrants know each individual, on their own, will kill every government person on their property illegally attempting to disarm them, without having to pass something fancy sounding, organize or get pissed off, they will continue to laugh at you.
When you stop allowing the government to laugh at you over this, then you'll have won...and that will only come from burning gun powder, as it has been the only way to stop tyranny in all past history.
Only force will stop tyranny. No signed paper / law will.
Most NG units have limited ammo and units like armor units don't even have most if any tanks or Bradleys. Here in WV the armor units keep their tanks at Camp Lee or Camp Picket VA. Politicians are talking out of their collective asses. The active military has tried more than once to make NG units only support units. The active military and federal government only want the NG or ANG armed on their terms. So we see pretty much a paper tiger for a long fight without the active military's support. Most of us that have been in the military know what an ammo dump or storage area looks like. Ever see then at NG units or for that matter Air Guard units. By now the VA politicians have been briefed by the state adjutant general and he's probaly asked them "are you out of your f#cking mind"?
Who the [bleep] knew anything about the confiscations in New Orleans in real time? I didn't hear anything about it til weeks afterwards.....plus it was a bunch of poor blacks and whether you like it or not, the ugly reality is, that makes a difference. Totally different situation and set of circumstances.
BLACK? REALLY?
The first 1:11 minutes of the video shows 4 white people.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
This time people are having the time to comprehend the ramifications. Time to organize. Time to get pissed off. If you'd been at the meetings you'd understand the political climate here. People are ready to fight. This is an uprising and if they push we're gonna shove back hard. There will be no registration and there sure as hell won't be any confiscation.
"This time" is different huh?
You'll show them by passing something with 2A in the title, and we'll show them...
3 - If you have to have time to get pissed off...you've lost
4 - Unless and until the tyrants know each individual, on their own, will kill every government person on their property illegally attempting to disarm them, without having to pass something fancy sounding, organize or get pissed off, they will continue to laugh at you.
When you stop allowing the government to laugh at you over this, then you'll have won...and that will only come from burning gun powder, as it has been the only way to stop tyranny in all past history.
Only force will stop tyranny. No signed paper / law will.
You stupid [bleep], did we not address our grievances to the British monarchy in the form of our declaration of Independence first? We haven't lost [bleep] yet, because we don't possess the defestest attitude of pussies like you.
The people who are pushing this agenda of disarming the population and government control need to realize that there’s a helluvalotta patriotic Americans who will consider them legitimate targets once they start the war they seem to want. And it’s not just in Virginia, it’s nation wide. Their gonna need their armed security. 7mm
I'm convinced they are going to provoke a fight.
Originally Posted by marktheshark
I dont see President Trump allowing the commies in VA to mobilize the NG against citizens. As far as the poster who questioned the effectiveness of average armed citizens against military equipment, one must look no further then the 'Stan and the desert wars to answer that, and Vietnam before that. Citizens fighting on their home turf using guerrilla warfare tactics can be highly effective, especially against a force whos commitment to the battle would be questionable.
Yup. Learn from our overseas enemies that we've fought and from friends we've observed through history.
Some of y’all will do to ride with. Would offer to lend a hand in Virginia, but there’s whole lists of folks that need dealt with right close to home, for pretty much any patriot in the nation. And those lists will be started on about ten minutes or less after the work begins, wherever it finally does. As one fellow told a fed who asked if he would go all the way to Washington to fight, “What for? There’s enough of you sonsabitches right here”.
These commies do not need to be stood down, or shoved back. They push us they need shot in the face. Exterminated like the diseased vermin they are. This country needs to become the most dangerous place on earth for leftist mind-rot, and those who are infected with it. They want us all gone. Dead. In mass graves. Well, two can play that game, and, it needs done. Once they light up that fire, no sense putting it out until they are all gone. Cut that crap right out of this nation, for good.
Some of y’all will do to ride with. Would offer to lend a hand in Virginia, but there’s whole lists of folks that need dealt with right close to home, for pretty much any patriot in the nation. And those lists will be started on about ten minutes or less after the work begins, wherever it finally does. As one fellow told a fed who asked if he would go all the way to Washington to fight, “What for? There’s enough of you sonsabitches right here”.
These commies do not need to be stood down, or shoved back. They push us they need shot in the face. Exterminated like the diseased vermin they are. This country needs to become the most dangerous place on earth for leftist mind-rot, and those who are infected with it. They want us all gone. Dead. In mass graves. Well, two can play that game, and, it needs done. Once they light up that fire, no sense putting it out until they are all gone. Cut that crap right out of this nation, for good.
Some of y’all will do to ride with. Would offer to lend a hand in Virginia, but there’s whole lists of folks that need dealt with right close to home, for pretty much any patriot in the nation. And those lists will be started on about ten minutes or less after the work begins, wherever it finally does. As one fellow told a fed who asked if he would go all the way to Washington to fight, “What for? There’s enough of you sonsabitches right here”.
These commies do not need to be stood down, or shoved back. They push us they need shot in the face. Exterminated like the diseased vermin they are. This country needs to become the most dangerous place on earth for leftist mind-rot, and those who are infected with it. They want us all gone. Dead. In mass graves. Well, two can play that game, and, it needs done. Once they light up that fire, no sense putting it out until they are all gone. Cut that crap right out of this nation, for good.
[quote=jackmountain]Who the [bleep] knew anything about the confiscations in New Orleans in real time? I didn't hear anything about it til weeks afterwards.....plus it was a bunch of poor blacks and whether you like it or not, the ugly reality is, that makes a difference. Totally different situation and set of circumstances.
BLACK? REALLY?
The first 1:11 minutes of the video shows 4 white people.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
This time people are having the time to comprehend the ramifications. Time to organize. Time to get pissed off. If you'd been at the meetings you'd understand the political climate here. People are ready to fight. This is an uprising and if they push we're gonna shove back hard. There will be no registration and there sure as hell won't be any confiscation.
"This time" is different huh?
You'll show them by passing something with 2A in the title, and we'll show them...
3 - If you have to have time to get pissed off...you've lost
4 - Unless and until the tyrants know each individual, on their own, will kill every government person on their property illegally attempting to disarm them, without having to pass something fancy sounding, organize or get pissed off, they will continue to laugh at you.
When you stop allowing the government to laugh at you over this, then you'll have won...and that will only come from burning gun powder, as it has been the only way to stop tyranny in all past history.
Only force will stop tyranny. No signed paper / law will.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
You stupid [bleep], did we not address our grievances to the British monarchy in the form of our declaration of Independence first? We haven't lost [bleep] yet, because we don't possess the defestest attitude of pussies like you.
During the French Indian War, out on the Northwest Carolina Frontier in Rowan County, there were only 1536 tax payers in 1756. Three years later, there were less than 800 tax payers, the remainder having fled for safety east of the Yadkin River, and some went north into Virginia.
A well known individual gathered his family, tucked tail, and ran back to Virginia until it was all over. That man’s name was Daniel Boone.
Maybe you can go find a descendant of Daniel Boone to write your grievances to the government, while the real patriots, like the less than 800 tax payers who had the balls to stay on the N. Carolina Western frontier, address tyranny against their God given inalienable rights with burning gun powder.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
We've just gotten started writing the government to ask permission to protect our rights.
Some of y’all will do to ride with. Would offer to lend a hand in Virginia, but there’s whole lists of folks that need dealt with right close to home, for pretty much any patriot in the nation. And those lists will be started on about ten minutes or less after the work begins, wherever it finally does. As one fellow told a fed who asked if he would go all the way to Washington to fight, “What for? There’s enough of you sonsabitches right here”.
These commies do not need to be stood down, or shoved back. They push us they need shot in the face. Exterminated like the diseased vermin they are. This country needs to become the most dangerous place on earth for leftist mind-rot, and those who are infected with it. They want us all gone. Dead. In mass graves. Well, two can play that game, and, it needs done. Once they light up that fire, no sense putting it out until they are all gone. Cut that crap right out of this nation, for good.
Pretty much what I've been hinting at. Learn who the enemies are in your backyard. Plan accordingly.
You stupid [bleep], did we not address our grievances to the British monarchy in the form of our declaration of Independence first?
April 1775 – Patriots defended their 2A right with burning gun powder. Concord.
June - July 1776 – Patriots penned the Declaration of Independence.
Hey sport, who's the stupid one?
I believe our Founders answered first with burning gun powder, before writing.
Something you might think about if you want to win back your freedoms…or a debate with me.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
We haven't lost [bleep] yet, because we don't possess the defestest attitude of pussies like you.
50K+ illegal gun laws, and you think you have not lost anything yet...
You lost the minute you thought you had to pass something to backstop the 2A and your God given inalienable rights.
You'd be a good democrat the way you cast out accusations on your opponent of what you are doing. I can't have a defeatist attitude when my answer is burn the gun powder, now can I?
A defeatist is someone like you and Daniel Boone, who run and write.
I do not trust anyone to protect my SA rights but me, myself, and I. That includes members of the military and law enforcement. While I'm sure that there are many LEO's and soldiers who would refuse to join in the fight to disarm the citizens, there are just as many more who would willingly follow orders to do so, and not give it a second thought to kill their fellow Americans if push came to shove.
Anyway, having said that, I do not envision a situation in the immediate future where some Democrat governor is going to call out the National Guard and order them to start seizing firearms from the citizens of that state. Not saying it will never happen, as we have no way of predicting the future or knowing what it holds for us. But, this I do know..........if there ever does come a time in this country, when guns are outlawed, and some politician calls upon the military to disarm the people and I'm still breathing, I do not plan on sitting on my azz doing nothing, and waiting for all those "patriotic soldiers" to refuse to follow those orders.
Stay the [bleep] in N.C., we'll clean up our own mess. With your defeatist attitude you might as well join the commie leftist [bleep] in NoVa and Richmond and the billionaire from NYC. As far as the NRA, I'm a lifetime member too, and I sure as hell haven't seen Wayne LaPierre anywhere on the west side of the Blue Ridge. Guess his Limo is broke down. I'll be giving all my hard earned $$ to the Virginia citizens defense league, Gun Owners of America and the 2nd Amendment foundation. 🖕 You Wayne.
Wow! You sure know how to reject support from someone who was on your side. With your attitude I will indeed keep myself out of your mess. Good luck.
A thought to ponder , if push was about to become shove , could President Trump step in ? I’m sure the politicians know the answer to that question , Could it be a strategy of the left to push hoping for a shove and put Trump on the hot seat . If he chooses to back patriots , could real obstruction charges be brought ? And if he chooses to represent the Va elected officials passing of legislature , he would lose the patriots vote ? Ugly thinking , but a possibility . Kenneth
The answers to these questions are obviously above my pay grade , but if someone here actually knows the answers , myself snd Others would like to know What President Trumps options might be ? Kenneth
A thought to ponder , if push was about to become shove , could President Trump step in ? I’m sure the politicians know the answer to that question , Could it be a strategy of the left to push hoping for a shove and put Trump on the hot seat . If he chooses to back patriots , could real obstruction charges be brought ? And if he chooses to represent the Va elected officials passing of legislature , he would lose the patriots vote ? Ugly thinking , but a possibility . Kenneth
how about trump stays out of it....let the politicians get a taste of their own medicine ….don't let them hide behind d.c
A thought to ponder , if push was about to become shove , could President Trump step in ? I’m sure the politicians know the answer to that question , Could it be a strategy of the left to push hoping for a shove and put Trump on the hot seat . If he chooses to back patriots , could real obstruction charges be brought ? And if he chooses to represent the Va elected officials passing of legislature , he would lose the patriots vote ? Ugly thinking , but a possibility . Kenneth
I guess that would depend on whether he thinks the 2A is a God given and/or Constitutional right, not to be infringed by urban blue voter stronghold malarkey.
Don’t rightfully know , guess we’ll set back and watch the hour glass trickle and see . Seems that in the near future a lot of things will come to light . Kenneth
The Natl. Guard disarmed people in Nawlins, during Katrina, and not ONE shot was fired.
What makes you think people in Virginia will find the backbone to fire that ONE / FIRST shot?
What makes you think people will drive to Virginia, from all across the country, when they didn’t drive to Nawlins when they were disarmed?
As said before, NO was a different story. You had people walking around with guns that were not defending their property. There was a shortage of dry places to stay, food, water, etc. They were disarmed after a few fights broke out over food and water, and guns were fired. Most of it was gang related violence and looting. This was no wholesale confiscation of guns from houses, businesses, etc.
szihn, As usual, your comments are very articulate and accurate! I certainly hope that there are enough Patriots left, that are willing to take a stand. That stand should have taken place when LaVoy Finicum was murdered by the “federales” and the Oregon police. It appears that the time for a stand is nearing.....unless someone “reels in” the Virginia government! memtb
If you'd been at the meetings you'd understand the political climate here. People are ready to fight. This is an uprising and if they push we're gonna shove back hard. There will be no registration and there sure as hell won't be any confiscation.
If they’re ready to fight now, why weren’t they ready to vote? Somehow, the majority of the people in Virginia elected these people. I can see one or two races having some voter fraud, but the whole state?
War is hell! If they send in the Virginia National Guard......you know where they live. If they want too destroy your family....the threat of taking their family out will “temper their will to fight”! Not a pleasant thought....just reality! memtb
First they have to pass the proposed law. Then it'lll have to pass the inevitable court challenges, with implimentation likely being delayed while that process plays out, especially considering the potential impact it'll have.
The Dems hold a slim majority. Gotta think a lot of them are going to think twice about this, at least in the current form. They might go for a Lite version to avoid it failing as is.
Bottom line is that it's doubtfull that armed conflict is going to break out any time soon, unless the Dems decide to go for the gold and damn the consequences. We shall see. Governor Ralph only has one shot at this because of term limits (1) for that office in VA, so he might just might push this all the way.
If this gets passed and stands, I'll have to adjust my lifestyle a good bit, as VA is just a stone's throw away, and the most convenient place for me to shop and BTW, shoot.
Likely they will attempt to force compliance with the Guard from another state.....which is what happened in NOLA. The Guard from another state has “no dog in the hunt”.....so they will obey the orders! memtb
Likely they will attempt to force compliance with the Guard from another state.....which is what happened in NOLA. The Guard from another state has “no dog in the hunt”.....so they will obey the orders! memtb
Likely they will attempt to force compliance with the Guard from another state.....which is what happened in NOLA. The Guard from another state has “no dog in the hunt”.....so they will obey the orders! memtb
Common Soviet tactic.
Look at many of the NG units sent to Mexico during the 1916 punitive expedition. Damn few from the south. They were activated, but only on standby. Washington STILL didn’t trust the former states that had been in "rebellion” 1861-65.
First they have to pass the proposed law. Then it'lll have to pass the inevitable court challenges, with implimentation likely being delayed while that process plays out, especially considering the potential impact it'll have.
The Dems hold a slim majority. Gotta think a lot of them are going to think twice about this, at least in the current form. They might go for a Lite version to avoid it failing as is.
Bottom line is that it's doubtfull that armed conflict is going to break out any time soon, unless the Dems decide to go for the gold and damn the consequences. We shall see. Governor Ralph only has one shot at this because of term limits (1) for that office in VA, so he might just might push this all the way.
If this gets passed and stands, I'll have to adjust my lifestyle a good bit, as VA is just a stone's throw away, and the most convenient place for me to shop and BTW, shoot.
I think that since the Demons now have a majority in both house & the governor, that they want to push it. I don't think they will back down & even if they did, they would only back down to another version that still violates the 2A guarantees.
So in the end, I think it's showtime for both sides.
I mentioned on another thread about this...I think there's a possibility they want to provoke something here. The Dems know this will not fly legally, but if they can shove something through quickly and possibly push Yankee National Guard units down there from some completely infringed snowflake states, then maybe they can kick off Civil War II where they can really thump Americans.
I mentioned on another thread about this...I think there's a possibility they want to provoke something here. The Dems know this will not fly legally, but if they can shove something through quickly and possibly push Yankee National Guard units down there from some completely infringed snowflake states, then maybe they can kick off Civil War II where they can really thump Americans.
Now is the time to start finding where the police, national Guard, reserve have the armories.Have others finding out where the members of these organizations live, This is the time to start gathering intel on the potential enemies and what can be done to destabilize the unit cohesion.and focus.
If this is the spark that ignites the beginning of the historically inevitable civil war then God bless those that will stand up for the Constitution........let the culling begin.
The Patriots will have the military on their side while the liberals will have academics. Academics don’t fight conventionally and instead do their battle in a laboratory. Those places are a bastion of deviously perverted minds with the requisite knowledge and tools to succeed.
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