Evidently this is the most closely guarded secret in America today. In my county in Florida, the curriculum and course materials, textbooks and such, are not easily, or possibly not available at all online. Not at the State level either.
This morning, I have spoken to 4 different folks at the county level. Now I am waiting for. Supervisor to return my call. This search started over a week ago.
We often wonder why today’s kids are so susceptible so communism, and why they don’t seem to have any idea of real American history. At this point, I posit that it is because of what they are being exposed to in taxpayer funded government schools.

I have no idea Sam.

I work with our church's scout troop. They're aged 11 to 15. I've found that none of them, NONE, have any knowledge of history at all. No matter what historical event I mention, they don't have any idea what it is.

They stopped teaching much history many years ago.



And then it was largely dependent on the teacher.


History ought to be a largely elective pursuit.

A friend’s daughter that graduated with honors a couple of years ago couldn’t tell me which President George Washington was.

I don’t agree that history should be elective, it teaches context and is critical to understanding our place in the world.

Should be mandatory to graduate from high school along with Civics.

Jmo

Okay.....if history is not to be an elective, who decides what and when to teach?


I can just see a whole semester argument on whether to call it the Civil War or the War of Northern Aggression.


Lets learn about Joe McCarthy class.............positive or negative?

I am with you on civics. Not much wiggle room there.

That want it to remain a secret so the parents don't interfere. They don't put the lesson plans under lock & key, but they don't make them easy to get. I know one guy that started digging and he met so much resistance that he just gave up and sent his kids to another school.

What are the schools teaching in your area? The same as in every other area.
Communism and socialism, with as much godlessness as they can.
the NEA is and has always been a communist front organization and they have taken over about 99% of the public school curriculum's, and yet the average parent is blissfully unaware of what is taught.
So their plan is working and working well.
If the parents continue to stay "too busy to care" and continue to pay the taxes to pay for the destruction of this nation, the nation will be destroyed. Today many are amazed that kids can believe the outright lies told to them by AOC ,Sanders, and Biden. Well guess what. They were taught in the public schools by "teachers" that YOU pay for to believe those things. Think the kids are stupid? Maybe, ------ but not as stupid as someone that didn't care enough to check into what their own kids were being taught.

In politics there is no such a thing as neutrality. There are only 2 kinds of people, people who care now and get involved, or people who care later when involvement is criminal and dangerous.
Those that don't get involved in politics are ALWAYS punished by being ruled by their inferiors. Plato was 100% correct.
So were out founders who said "All government derive their powers from the CONSENT of the governed"

So many today are now asking how could the kids of today be so deceived as to believe socialism by force (known everywhere as "communism" )is a better way.
Well guess what...............the kids were not deceived before you were.

Time to wake up and take control of the tax monies. Or bend over and accept what the Dem/Comms want for your future.
Now choose.

Has anyone else tried to find out the curriculum and textbooks used in your school district?

I retired from the public education system of a big, democrat-run city in 2011, so my experience is a little dated- - - - -but even back then, the school system had become a socialist, "progressive" indoctrination camp, not a place where students could learn to be independent thinkers or productive citizens. If a classroom teacher was interested in moving up into any higher level of employment such as assistant principal, or anywhere in the administrative chain of command, it was almost a requirement to be at least bisexual, if not overtly homosexual. Students were graduating without even the basic social skills such as the ability to fill out a job application, interview for a job, or balance a checkbook. Some of the things my trade education curriculum mandated me to teach was job interview and job application skills, and most of my students showed no interest whatsoever. The comment I got routinely was "Ain't nobody in my family gots no job- - - - -we gets a check! Workin' is fo' suckahs!" Some of those kids couldn't remember anyone in their immediate family that had ever worked for a living- - - -as far back as 2 or 3 generations in some cases!
Jerry

History is still taught here in Alaska.


All meetings here in Alaska are subject to the open meetings act. Including the school board meetings and the curriculum meetings. They have to be posted before each meeting.

Nothing is in secret. Everything goes through a process. If you don’t know what it is, you haven’t been paying attention

The high school in my area is Americana oriented being in a Historic area. They have an active ROTC program and many of the parents and grandparents are members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, DAR, Civil War re-enactments, West Florida Republic designations, The Day The Civil War Stopped annual observance, etc.

Sam, I’d say this is so prevalent much due to our location and the fact that conservatism runs high here.

IMO it’s the best of the best of what Louisiana has to offer. Or of any other place for that matter.

They still teach it here too. And in the State College I attended.


Its an excellent opportunity to get kids started down a political path.



But yes......curriculums are not secret.

Only in a cursory manner.

The fact is that it takes too much time.
First off, you have to read the books the kids are using. That alone takes about as much time as the kids spend in school each day.
Then you have to get hold of the materials the teachers supplement their lessons with. A lot of that isn't planned very far in advance, so you have to stay on it all the time. Plus the teachers don't want to take the time & effort to get it to you even if it is innocent. If it's scandalous or at all controversial, to the left or right, they are loathe to give it to you and it would take a court order to get it.

The only group I'm aware of that has even a slight clue as to what's going on is Value Voters. They were able to get a few districts to comment on the presence of "Comprehensive Sexual Education" programs in their schools, promoted by Planned Parenthood.

Tyrone, you can also check their homework and spend quality time with the kids doing just that.

Hogwash!


Dave Ramsay says you should work 8 jobs and save all of it.


Aint nobody got time to talk to no kids!

That worked in kindergarten and up to maybe 2nd grade, but since then almost all the homework has been online. Unless they have difficulty with something, you never see it, you have no idea what they are doing.

Heh !

No argument there, Jim.

The kids also get a semester of AK (Alaska) history.

Homeschool- - - - - -then you can look into the mirror and bitch at the teacher when your kids are too ignorant to get into college or make a living when it's time for them to step out into the real world and sink or swim on their own merits! Crying a river about the failure of the education system is sort of like bitching about the farmer with your mouth full!

Don't tell me how to do my job better- - - - -show me! I'll watch and learn, and take notes!
Jerry

You have to take time to take time. This ain’t complicated to do.

But I get your point and it’s a valid one .

Yeah, mom and dad both working full time to make ends meet allows sooo much time for homeschooling.

They teach them how to get on welfare, get free food, where to go to get abortions, how to print a nice sign to stand on the side of the road for money begging.

You talking about black churches ?

I can't say what is taught here in PA. but it can't be very much. Every time a snowflake falls to the ground, the wind blows more than 5mph or the temp drops below 32 degrees they cancel, delay or let out early school.

Our school system has an advanced placement program for those that exhibit some drive and intellect. Those kids take some tough stuff requiring a ton of reading and thought. The remaining balance pretty much skate through and are oblivious to life away from their phones.

My own son was having some attitude issues for his Jr and Sr years, so I got involved in his homework and actually sat through a few days of classes. Had I been in charge, he would have been held back for at least a year. I doubt very few of the average students today, could score 50% on the Kansas 1895 8th grade exam that gets passed around on the web.

A small community here, and I get nothing but frustration from teachers when it comes to discipline now days. Seems even 3rd and 4th graders are fine with getting into adult's faces.

I found this but I dunno if its official State of Florida....

https://www.cpalms.org/Public/PreviewCourse/Preview/4495

But here's a bottom line that can be checked. Florida has a History End of Course (EOC) exam that a kid has to pass to get credit. If you scroll down to the review sessions you'll see a reflection of the coursse content.

https://www.flvs.net/student-resources/flex/eoc/us-history


Texas "TEKS" (Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills) are less hi tech but more straightforward....

http://ritter.tea.state.tx.us/rules/tac/chapter113/ch113c.html

I dunno if this answers your question. Took five minutes, but I know where to look.

In my district I teach 8th Grade History, we are supposed to cover 1787 the Constitution up to the Progressives 1890's to 1900. I start with the French and Indian War to lay the ground work for the Tax Acts and the Intolerable Acts , the Quartering Act, etc. Briefly touch on the Revolution and then go into the Articles of Confederation, then the Constitution. IF get to the Wild West after the Civil War(War of Northern Aggression or the Celebration of Northern Industrial Might) and Reconstruction I am lucky. I cover the Bill of Rights extensively as do I the "theory of state's rights." Matter of fact we are discussing John Brown now.

I don't know what they teach about American History these days but when I took it in 1960 we just memorized dates, very boring. I learned more about our history in Civics class.

Its transparent here too. The curriculum, everything. How a teacher interprets that curriculum can be different, but all my assignments and grades are posted in real time.

Whatever happened to the idea of husband and wife holding off on having children until they have the means (finances and time) to rear them properly?

Here: how to RUN,JUMP and Foch, and nothing else

I don't know, but there's a schitt ton of them out there.

The schools are all teaching about the same thing. Yes, I believe it is mostly liberal, progressive, socialistic [bleep].

The parents are responsible for getting their kids a real education. We have two sons, age 11 and 12. We spend time each night talking about school and going over homework.

I spent this past weekend sleeping on the ground with 30 other parents and 65 scouts. Yes, an education is more than what is taught in school and parents really matter.

In my opinion the best way to help your school district be more conservative is to get on the school board and have influence when the board hires the next superintendent. You also get to vote on policy with is very important.

commie common core curriculum, desperately trying to rid the state of it, this school does pray at games, stands for the pledge and DOES attend classes on martin luther [race baiter] king day!

Ever hear of a 2'nd chair at the computer desk. Or a laptop on the dining room table with two chairs?

I know a bunch of folks like that, most of them are childless couples now because they waited too late. I'm 51 and of myself and my three best friends with their wives there's one child between us all. All of us are successful professionals because we did it "right", we got an education and paid our own way through life without any help. Meanwhile walk into Walmart and see how many 22 year old unwed mothers are walking around with five kids in tow, 2" long fake nails and swipe an EBT card at the checkout. Those children are the future of the country, not the children of the couples that waited until they had the means to rear them properly. Those children of welfare mothers are the ones that are going to be making the critical decisions regarding the direction our country takes. Demographics is destiny and the ideal married couple that only has children when they can afford it is getting outbred five to one by those that don't care about things like that.

1. Sending your kids to most public schools nowadays is tantamount to child abuse. Our public school systems have been taken over by our evil ruling class. I pity those decent folks who have this as their only option. Some public school options in the hinterlands are still decent, as they have actively resisted the POZ(a).

2. Private school has become so expensive that parents have to bring down some serious bucks to afford it. Even religious schools with a tradition of schooling even their poorest parishioners have to charge the kind of tuition that requires serious sacrifice even for the upper middle class. Still, there are some big school problems. One being inefficient use of time. Another bing lying scum who lie about their religious affiliation (or lack) thereof. They bring POZ with them.

3. Home schooling is the most cost-effective option. Dad works like a madman and mom gets together with other homeschooling moms and makes it happen. Lots of resources/guided these days.

4. "University Model" schools are a home school/private school hybrid. Cost is 1/4 to 1/2 private school tuition. Kid goes to classes 2 or 3 days/week and does homework with mom the other school days.
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(a) POZ is cultural AIDS, "HIV+ culture"

Scrimping money on cheap rubbers would be my guess.

Here's a sampling what they get in Texas public schools, at least by posted curriculum....

(1) Economics with Emphasis on the Free Enterprise System and Its Benefits is the culmination of the economic content and concepts studied from Kindergarten through required secondary courses. The focus is on the basic principles concerning production, consumption, and distribution of goods and services (the problem of scarcity) in the United States and a comparison with those in other countries around the world. Students analyze the interaction of supply, demand, and price. Students will investigate the concepts of specialization and international trade, economic growth, key economic measurements, and monetary and fiscal policy. Students will study the roles of the Federal Reserve System and other financial institutions, government, and businesses in a free enterprise system. Types of business ownership and market structures are discussed. The course also incorporates instruction in personal financial literacy. Students apply critical-thinking skills using economic concepts to evaluate the costs and benefits of economic issues.

(2) Students identify the role of the U.S. free enterprise system within the parameters of this course and understand that this system may also be referenced as capitalism or the free market system.

(3) Economics with Emphasis on the Free Enterprise System and Its Benefits builds upon the foundation in economics and social studies laid by the social studies essential knowledge and skills in Kindergarten-Grade 12. The course will apply these skills to current economic situations. The content enables students to understand the importance of patriotism, function in a free enterprise society, and appreciate the basic democratic values of our state and nation as referenced in the Texas Education Code (TEC), §28.002(h).

(4) Students understand that a constitutional republic is a representative form of government whose representatives derive their authority from the consent of the governed, serve for an established tenure, and are sworn to uphold the constitution.

This is a puzzle to me, I get contacts from parents all the time, I'm here every day after school and walk-ins are welcome. I ain't so unusual either.

There is however a whole subset of kids who's parents never bother.

Ain't you the guy who sends his kids to expensive private schools? Someone around here said that recently.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like your kids are pulling the wool over your eyes, IME this is the case most of the time when a parent has these sort of complaints.

If they are doing online assignments you can access them from home with them, you can read the directions that came with those assignments, you can check the grades for those assignments as soon as they are posted, and since your kids generated the documents or responses online, they should be able to show you exactly what they submitted.

Here's the list of State Adoptions for History (Social Studies). A two minute google.....

http://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/5574/urlt/1617AIM22018.pdf

What exactly a given school uses will vary, but its gotta be off this list of official adoptions.

Birdwatcher.

That seems to be the key. I have not been successful in getting local or State offices to give up much info. I did find the cpalms site, but it was not much help.

Thanks. I have some emails out for answers.

The private school was just as bad. All done on a Chromebook.

When your 150 IQ kid is nearly flunking, they do everything they can to keep you out of it. Most of the time they (that one especially) won't even tell you what they have due. Teachers rarely sent out anything to parents even when asked. Sometimes they would for a bit and quit. We ended up getting info after the fact, public schools and private.

After reading the posts on this thread, it looks like some of you guys didn't do so well in English or grammar class yourselves. Maybe today's schooling really isn't any different than when you went there?

Dayoom!

Did I unspell that rite ?

Yup, if there was anything my kids learned in high school it was US History. The school my three kids went to in Fairbanks has a very good US History teacher who is a Fellow of the James Madison Foundation..... which has very rigorous requirements for the teaching of US History and Civics.

Jim all one has to do is hit the highlights.

I loved History when i was a younger guy.

I still find it interesting.

And their legal rights and, as usual, Rs bad and Ds good.

Oh yeah, and there is no good or evil because there is no GOD or Lucifer.

Also, dumbasses like la Roy and Gooschiet memorize how smart the teachers said they were.

Most kids/families could solve this by a simple thing: dinner as a family and chat. Ask them what they are learning about etc.

As for home work on computers, yup, but it's no different than homework on paper, is it done, check it, check grades, go to parent teacher nights. Be a parent not a friend.

I have a wife who was a teacher and a son who is. Things are not as bad as made out here. Yes the NEA is an issue, but they are locally run unions that are the key. NEA ignores that except telling them how they should vote. It's also 100% up to the individual teacher and the administration. Bad admin will overcome good teachers!

#2 son sent this to me a couple years back when he was in HS.
He was told this was a class assignment,and not to bring it home...

What in the actual??? I'd be contacting my local news stations to see who might be interested in talking about 1. The content and 2. The directive to basically not tell your parents what we're doing..

PS: Is the crotch supposed to look like a strain of DNA or a twist wrapped piece of candy? Could go either way at a glance.

With regard your local public schools, knowing what is being taught in any or all of your child's classes can be quite easy to determine - IF THE PARENTS CARE ENOUGH TO SIMPLY GO FIND OUT. In the not too distant past, parents did care enough to do so and went regularly to parent/teacher sessions and school board meetings in order to be so informed and to make their wishes and concerns known to the school leaders - this was quite common in that local parents considered the local schools as direct servants of their families and the community.

Simply go talk with the teacher concerned and ask - and go up the supervisory ladder if you do not like the answers. Go to the school board meeting, get onto the agenda, and ask for the specific curricula and course syllabi in which you are interested. Use a little bit of the force of your tax dollars and votes, and whatever real interest you have in your child, to get the straight information. This once was common - why not now?

If you truly care about course content and emphasis, act and obtain it - much more effective that general carping on a forum like this. Whose kid is it, anyway?

Right now, my AK Studies students have just finished their Duffle Bag Problem of making a list with pictures of what they would need to survive that would fit in a duffle bag for three days solo at -30 F in the Whites. They are now watching and answering questions to Alone in the Wilderness by Dick Proeneke. This is the shorter 27 minute version. You would be surprised at how many liberal children really love real Alaskan material. Its part of the FNSBSD Global Studies curriculum as we are going through Russian Period and I explain students how the Russians lived differently than people living today.


One student honestly asked me if he would get suspended if he put a picture of a rifle on his page. I told him that with possible Brown Bears looking for easy food, he could possibly die if he didn't have one.

Whatever the teachers union says--

History is the can be the best or worst subject you take in school.

I always loved history.....but never did have a good teacher.

There is much opportunity to throw your bias into a history class.

If its going to be taught by communists.......it should be elective. Why force a kid to endure such blatant indoctrination?

Florida schools just -"got rid of common core"
Me thinks they just rebranded it, but, it is the same crap!!

They teach what ever the Teachers Union tells them to!

I sat at the table one hour every night with my three, made sure they were doing homework. If they had none, they read one of there school books.

Did they forget to turn it in sometimes. Yep

Very perceptive post.

Can't say that this is not the case in some places, but was NEVER the case where I taught and led.

No idea Sam. My three sons (age 30, 28 and 21) went to school in a number of places and even a few countries. The eldest are fine out on their own, happy. The youngest is wrapping a degree at A&M in mechanical engineering this semester and has a rock solid job booked. So, with my wife's great parenting they all have done all right...

That’s just odd. I can’t think of a better way to get something told to a parent than to tell the kids NOT to tell their parents.

In our local schools they teach

• Earthlore
• Skylore
• Making the Weaker Argument Appear the Stronger
• Corrupting the Youth of Athens

I fully suspect they do not believe in the gods in whom the city believes, but in other daimonia that are novel.

where did you take classes in history?

Gulla, Geechee, and Swahili mostly.

g