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Listening to the talk on Fox just now.

The pitch is to reduce incarceration.

I think the real problem for the Dems is their base losing voting rights due to felony drug convictions....so let's legalize all of it.
That is retarded!
MontanaMarine: Well that little ass bandit has sunk himself!
Stupidly sad.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
in the city today i was approached by an obviously sexually confused individual who wanted me to sign a petition to send his weird ass to the convention as a delegate for bootyjudge. it was so stereotypical that i just laughed and walked away shaking my head. the single reason people would vote for him is because he is gay. he has nothing else.
Pretty typical of those antinomian libertines.
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine

I think the real problem for the Dems is their base losing voting rights due to felony drug convictions....so let's legalize all of it.


What's the matter? Not enough people dying that will vote D from the grave lately??
Good plan to lower crime like theft, increase employable marketable workers, and reduce medical costs. Great solution.
Sounds good,just as soon as they void ALL GUN LAWS for the same reason. (And about 100 more reasons.)
Bout what you would expect from some dude named Buttplug.
why doesn't he pitch free drugs for all, while he is at it?
I’ve said forever to legalize them all. Let the cards fall where they may. Remove the safety nets. Survival of the fittest. The problem is “we” will always give abusers a safety net.
What is being done now and for all our lives is a dismal failure, Dismal is putting it mildly.
Has to be a better way
Originally Posted by kid0917
why doesn't he pitch free drugs for all, while he is at it?


Works for me, we are tired of having to pay the legal drug dealers ( pain clinics of government tyranny) $130 a month until a $800-$1000 deductible is met to get legally prescribed medications.

Then pay the pharmacy, for the prescriptions
Not only that, but the taxpayers foot the bill for the medical, treatment programs, homeless shelters, and so on.
I must have good insurance. I end up paying maybe $400 per year for 3 meds.
Well, looks like he just got Rollin Blunder and Gooschiets vote.

So does Tulsi Gabbard.
Legalize all drugs? Take a walk through the streets of any large city and you'll see how that works out.

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By all means, keep drugs illegal. It’s much better to have a bigger government, a militarized police force, a general disregard for fourth amendment rights by the police and supported by the courts, a massive industrial prison system, and drug cartels that have amassed fortunes and murdered thousands.
That's one idea I can get onboard with- - - - - -legalize the use of any and all drugs- - - - -no restrictions! Just make it a felony with a minimum 5 year prison term, to resuscitate an OD. The drug abuse problem will become self-correcting in short order.
Jerry
Bull. They'll say anything to bring in donations and get in office, then its back to big government as usual.
keep in mind, president does not make laws....but, hard to override a veto, the way the power is now split.
Kid out
He probably wants the AIDS one to be over the counter
Here is a question, would legalizing drugs make our drug problem any worse? Prohibition didn't stop drinking and we saw similar results as today's war on drugs.The government can't regulate morality, it doesn't ever work. I'm against drugs, but I'm also against the government telling me what to do laugh .


Honestly, legalize drugs, put the money from the war on drugs into education. Either that or get serious like Singapore on drugs, hanging day is Friday in Singapore.
Not surprising coming from Peeeeteee Buttcakes........What a damned utter disaster he would make as POTUS.......He kinda looks like an Alfred E Newman.....If elected, we could call his partner the first man???............This clown should never sit behind the desk in the oval office...........He will not following this election cycle and hopefully NEVER!
Just fallow ol' Duterte's way of dealing with drugs and the pushers...kill them all and let God sort them out.
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Listening to the talk on Fox just now.

The pitch is to reduce incarceration.

I think the real problem for the Dems is their base losing voting rights due to felony drug convictions....so let's legalize all of it.





He's starting to get the lying part down.
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
That's one idea I can get onboard with- - - - - -legalize the use of any and all drugs- - - - -no restrictions! Just make it a felony with a minimum 5 year prison term, to resuscitate an OD. The drug abuse problem will become self-correcting in short order.
Jerry


Yup
Like anything else, govt trying to regulate something never works.
So does Thomas Sowell.
I don’t know about all drugs but pot regulation is a damn joke. Legalize pot . Put the money used for fighting that into something’s else. Maybe a wall? 😆
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Here is a question, would legalizing drugs make our drug problem any worse? Prohibition didn't stop drinking and we saw similar results as today's war on drugs.The government can't regulate morality, it doesn't ever work. I'm against drugs, but I'm also against the government telling me what to do laugh .


Honestly, legalize drugs, put the money from the war on drugs into education. Either that or get serious like Singapore on drugs, hanging day is Friday in Singapore.





I am in agreement with you.
He's an idiot!! How does he think drug addicts get $$$ for their dope?

Maybe they will carjack him and his hubby next date night....


Mike
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Here is a question, would legalizing drugs make our drug problem any worse? Prohibition didn't stop drinking and we saw similar results as today's war on drugs.The government can't regulate morality, it doesn't ever work. I'm against drugs, but I'm also against the government telling me what to do laugh .


Honestly, legalize drugs, put the money from the war on drugs into education. Either that or get serious like Singapore on drugs, hanging day is Friday in Singapore.





I am in agreement with you.
+1
...and he is pandering to his voters.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Legalize all drugs? Take a walk through the streets of any large city and you'll see how that works out.

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Legalizing drugs doesn’t mean legalizing vagrancy or anything else criminal that an addict may do. Unrelated. Those folks should all be in prison and forced to go cold turkey. Not for using drugs, but for all the crimes they routinely commit.
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
So does Thomas Sowell.


Yep, and Bill Buckley.
Drugs take away a person's ability to work and take care of himself. They commit the crimes to feed the habit. Legalizing them will make the homeless situation far worse as more people fall into addiction.
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Bout what you would expect from some dude named Buttplug.



Wonder if he has his [bleep] packer union card
Originally Posted by ready_on_the_right
He's an idiot!! How does he think drug addicts get $$$ for their dope?

Maybe they will carjack him and his hubby next date night....


Mike

Drug laws are what creates the black market high costs which create the majority of the crime involved
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Drugs take away a person's ability to work and take care of himself. They commit the crimes to feed the habit. Legalizing them will make the homeless situation far worse as more people fall into addiction.

The personality type that takes it that far will do so whether legal or not. Just like we still had winos and derelicts during prohibition.
Originally Posted by 700LH
Originally Posted by ready_on_the_right
He's an idiot!! How does he think drug addicts get $$$ for their dope?

Maybe they will carjack him and his hubby next date night....


Mike

Drug laws are what creates the black market high costs which create the majority of the crime involved

Yep. It’s so simple. Hard to believe so many fail to grasp it.
It's almost like the government wanted the war on drugs as an excuse to grow and control us vs. solving the problem.
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Here is a question, would legalizing drugs make our drug problem any worse? Prohibition didn't stop drinking and we saw similar results as today's war on drugs.The government can't regulate morality, it doesn't ever work. I'm against drugs, but I'm also against the government telling me what to do laugh .


Honestly, legalize drugs, put the money from the war on drugs into education. Either that or get serious like Singapore on drugs, hanging day is Friday in Singapore.



I like what you think, except I would prefer they just don't take the money from taxpayers in the first place.
The dems are good at getting folks to ask the wrong questions and run down rabbit trails that have nothing to do with the real problem.

Drugs could be 100% legal and no harm would come to the USA IF and ONLY IF the freedom from government involvement as per the Constitution was observed and enforced as it is written.
What do I mean?
Well if all drugs were legal but ALL government theft (non-accounted taxation) was illegal so you, the tax payers, had NO obligation to help support drug using scum at all, the problem would go away all by itself in about 1 generation. Let the stupid ones kill themselves, but let them know that they are entitled to absolutely ZERO support or help to treat their self-inflicted conditions . When legal, the drugs would be pure, MUCH stronger and very cheap (about 95% less) so these stupid creatures would increase their usage about 20 to 50 times, and would kill themselves off fast, then they would only be entitles to a truck ride to a public dump. NOTHING more at all. NOTHING!!!!!!!

If a set of laws that protects those that are criminal, stupid or treasonous, results in a nation filled with traitors, stupid people and criminals.

The Dem/Comms have given us a nation full of such scum and tells us that a bigger government machine is what is needed. Unfortunately many so-called conservatives believe more police power is needed and that don't effect the druggies much at all, but it does effect those that love freedom because a cop needs to do "something' to shot he is "working" so the politicians they make up reasons to interfere in people's lives.

And by leading you to believe the issue is "illegal drug use" many think the answer is bigger government. It's not! It's forcing others to "help" those that destroy themselves. It's a form of suicide.
If a man shoots himself with a 25-06 in the head and the bullet hits at 3000 FPS --- it's suicide.
Well how about using a 45 auto and the bullet only going 830 FPS? Still suicide.
How about swallowing Hydrogen Cyanide, and causing death in 2 minutes? Still suicide.
How about taking a whole bottle of pills and killing themselves in 3 hours Yup...Suicide!
Well if they do it with a bottle of prescription drugs or a lot of home-made or imported drugs, it's still SUICIDE!

Let them do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And when they are gone those that are left behind can see the cause and effect and know their fate is the same, if they do the same things. But don't charge me higher medical bills or higher taxes because others are stupid of suicidal. That's not governments job and it ONLY benefits those that want more control over everyone, not just druggies.

The answer is to allow cause and effect to exist, and to disallow government (meaning tax-payer funded) "help" those that harm themselves intentionally.

let them see the effects and quit the drugs , or let them die.
Sorry to be hard, but truth is hard.

Legalize it. Give every bit of it away that is in an evidence locker like girl scout cookies in front of wal-mart. It will resolve itself in a week.
Patrick
The herd needs thinning.
We can't trust some people with drugs because we can't trust me with potato chips.
Originally Posted by Cheesy
I’ve said forever to legalize them all. Let the cards fall where they may. Remove the safety nets. Survival of the fittest. The problem is “we” will always give abusers a safety net.


I agree. It would be an effective way to purge the stupid from the population. Those who are inclined, already do. Those who aren't, don't and won't start just because of legality status..


Originally Posted by Tansun
Just fallow ol' Duterte's way of dealing with drugs and the pushers...kill them all and let God sort them out.



I'm good with that too.
I've never consumed any drugs in my life but have also realized that the war on drugs has become a massive problem.
When something is made illegal, black markets boom.
Those that seek drugs will find them whether legal or illegal.
Originally Posted by hanco
That is retarded!
. I hope he goes for it.. All that'll do is help Trump.
Actually a good idea. Make them cheap too. Eliminate crime, and natural selection will eliminate a lot of drug users. Put in a caveat that says if you make a poor lifestyle Choice, you will be left to die.
So they want to legalize drugs but criminalize straws and Big Gulps. What a country this will be!
Originally Posted by antlers
By all means, keep drugs illegal. It’s much better to have a bigger government, a militarized police force, a general disregard for fourth amendment rights by the police and supported by the courts, a massive industrial prison system, and drug cartels that have amassed fortunes and murdered thousands.
Or we could have one Boxer Rebellion after another as people get tired of their children being poisoned. There was no Govt support for drug users, no welfare. Widespread availability of drugs was a complete failure. Some of you have no clue what the opioid epidemic has done to small town America even with all the Govt welfare.

It would be far better to have real consequences for drug dealing, like a quick death penalty. Jail time is just vacation time for a lot of people. You really can't complain about cartels and crimes until you've had a death penalty extending down to street dealers.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Drugs take away a person's ability to work and take care of himself. They commit the crimes to feed the habit. Legalizing them will make the homeless situation far worse as more people fall into addiction.


LMAO...

So when a guy has a beer or two while watching a game, he lost his ability to work and take care of himself? You realize how uneducated your statement is????

Legalizing will make homelessness worse? How so? The probability it would have the opposite affect is far more likely.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by antlers
By all means, keep drugs illegal. It’s much better to have a bigger government, a militarized police force, a general disregard for fourth amendment rights by the police and supported by the courts, a massive industrial prison system, and drug cartels that have amassed fortunes and murdered thousands.
Or we could have one Boxer Rebellion after another as people get tired of their children being poisoned.

It would be far better to have real consequences for drug dealing, like a quick death penalty. Jail time is just vacation time for a lot of people. You really can't complain about cartels and crimes until you've had a death penalty extending down to street dealers.


Do you think liquor store attendants should get the death penalty too?
Originally Posted by hanco
That is retarded!


Freedom is retarded? Make sure and walk around Arlington letting everyone know their relatives who died to preserve freedom of choice is retarded....
Originally Posted by Terryk
Good plan to lower crime like theft, increase employable marketable workers, and reduce medical costs. Great solution.


Perhaps you meant to use the secret campfire sarcasm font? grin

Lower crime? Why? Making it legal doesn't make it cheaper at least based on weed prices - https://www.statista.com/statistics...-marijuana-price-difference-by-us-state/

Increase employable workers? - If I'm running a business I still don't want stoned workers and all the baggage that comes with like absenteeism and lack of ability to do the job when they show up stoned and my insurance company agrees.

Reduce medical costs? Only if they agree to stop given narcan to the ones that OD and let nature take its course. I suspect medical costs will go up as more people "experiment" with stuff that was designed to kill you and we try and save them from their stupidity.

Fortunately, this whole idea panders to a very small range of folks for now. I bet it won't be that way in 20 years.
We need to make dangerous/addictive drugs even easier for kids to get, Right guys??

Seriously, I’m all for “free will”, and a case can be made that folks exercise “free will” when they take heroin/meth/crack the FIRST time, but they are not exercising purely “free will” after that.

Highly addictive drugs, many of which are physically addictive (not just a psychological addiction) are not something that should be easy to obtain.

Anyone that thinks the Democrat Party is going to allow “natural selection” to prevail, hasn’t looked at their platform/policies for the last 55 years. It’ll just create another victim/welfare class, and the general public will be subject to the increased crime that comes from an even MORE drugged out criminal class.

These folks are not gonna be passed out 24/7 in some opium den. They’ll be out robbing/raping/driving/stealing their lives away...
For good or for bad, Portugal has already run this experiment for us. No increase in drug use, less street crime.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by antlers
By all means, keep drugs illegal. It’s much better to have a bigger government, a militarized police force, a general disregard for fourth amendment rights by the police and supported by the courts, a massive industrial prison system, and drug cartels that have amassed fortunes and murdered thousands.
Or we could have one Boxer Rebellion after another as people get tired of their children being poisoned. There was no Govt support for drug users, no welfare. Widespread availability of drugs was a complete failure. Some of you have no clue what the opioid epidemic has done to small town America even with all the Govt welfare.

It would be far better to have real consequences for drug dealing, like a quick death penalty. Jail time is just vacation time for a lot of people. You really can't complain about cartels and crimes until you've had a death penalty extending down to street dealers.

heroin dealers can rot in hell. I’m ok with the death penalty there . The one small problem would be that our justice system is not perfect and sometimes the innocent get convicted. Could someone plant an ounce of drugs in someone’s home and get them killed In a world that executes drug dealers? Scary thought ....
Originally Posted by oldtrapper
For good or for bad, Portugal has already run this experiment for us. No increase in drug use, less street crime.

I don’t think this fits well in the Democraps ‘plans.
As long as they are all released in his neighborhood.
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Listening to the talk on Fox just now.

The pitch is to reduce incarceration.

I think the real problem for the Dems is their base losing voting rights due to felony drug convictions....so let's legalize all of it.


Absolutely agree, Prohibition never worked, never will. The day the gov started to legislate what we could put into our own bodies was the day our liberties started to disappear. The loss of liberty will trickle down to our guns sooner or later if allowed to continue.
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Listening to the talk on Fox just now.

The pitch is to reduce incarceration.

I think the real problem for the Dems is their base losing voting rights due to felony drug convictions....so let's legalize all of it.


Absolutely agree, Prohibition never worked, never will.
You are right. Let's legalize murder since laws against it haven't worked.
Originally Posted by Pugs
Originally Posted by Terryk
Good plan to lower crime like theft, increase employable marketable workers, and reduce medical costs. Great solution.


Perhaps you meant to use the secret campfire sarcasm font? grin

Lower crime? Why? Making it legal doesn't make it cheaper at least based on weed prices - https://www.statista.com/statistics...-marijuana-price-difference-by-us-state/

Increase employable workers? - If I'm running a business I still don't want stoned workers and all the baggage that comes with like absenteeism and lack of ability to do the job when they show up stoned and my insurance company agrees.

Reduce medical costs? Only if they agree to stop given narcan to the ones that OD and let nature take its course. I suspect medical costs will go up as more people "experiment" with stuff that was designed to kill you and we try and save them from their stupidity.

Fortunately, this whole idea panders to a very small range of folks for now. I bet it won't be that way in 20 years.



Yes you need the secret font decoder. His solution creates 10X more issues.
I think a good bit of the dem plan is nihilism. They want chaos so they can control the masses.
They want drugs, decline of the family, no jobs, and no law. They want to transform people into animal that they control.
Look at obongo, his platform was destruction.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Let's legalize murder since laws against it haven't worked.

Different. There are no victims of drug or alcohol usage. They engage in it voluntarily.
I got one here the Buttgigger ought to try.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Let's legalize murder since laws against it haven't worked.

Different. There are no victims of drug or alcohol usage. They engage in it voluntarily.
Please. That has been demolished infinitely.
I guess I should be glad you don't know any druggies or their families or anyone who's ever been victimized by one.
I've floated the idea once or twice, make all drugs legal. Maybe even subsidize them.

But it comes with a "zero strikes you're out" policy. Get caught comitting any crime and test positive for drugs, yer done. One behind the ear.
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